Both seeds poped just fine and were in soil with in 3 days.i just do it old school.one paper towel folded up in a rubbermaid container.i have a very high success rate useing this method.i have my light set as low as it can go right now.i will raise it up in a couple weeks to about 70 percent.i have just used bottled water so far.i usually do that for first week or so.i am useing a super soil mix so im just going to use microbes unless i see some deficiencies.maybe a little calmag here and there.