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BioBuds BioBuds
3 years ago
How's it growing, my greenminded friends! Thank you for visiting my growjournal. For more info about my setup: see the Germination page. for my preliminary findings, look below, full reviews of setup and strain afterharvest results! The ladies are entering the 9th week, we have some ambers going but not enough. Just a couple more days and 24 hrs of darkness starts, so later this week the harvest is finaly there. Can't wait to see what the final tally will be. For those who haven't placed a guess on my total harvest weight: See growquestion for more info and to place your entry. Im giving away three feminized Zambeza White Cheese Regular seeds. Guessed weights so far: - @hashy : 0 grams - @MrHyde : 198 grams - @JamMAKEcan : 224 grams - @TrickOrTrip : 260 grams - @Ohey_fu_kyu: 350 grams - @Hempkid : 605 grams - @DoDrugs420 : 621 grams Good luck all! More contenders welcome. Prize will be sent in following way: - I send you my e-mail adress that is coupled to my website that has my phonenumber and is all verifiable that its me. You decide if you want the prize or the honour: if you want the prize, send me just your adress and I will package discreetly, post and delete mail with your adress in the same day. Just to be sure. I will never share said info with anyone else of course. Once you see my site, you'll understand that I can and have to be discreet! Overview of what I've learned so far in this setup and indoor soil growing with LED: - How to reveg and monstercrop, although not the plan, now I know how to do it. - Larger branches are larger buds, more ventilation and airflow to keep branches thicker/shorter. - How to supercrop and how not. How to scrog. - How to get a good airy soil mix. - How to water properly. - When to feed and what they need, like extra sulphur in Epsom salt when stem is reddish and reddish hue over leaves. - What distance and intensity the lights should be on and when. - What genetics and sorts I like to grow. - How to properly scrub the air, maintain the temps in the space the grow is in. Its mostly spot on 26, middle of summer. This space is very stable in moist and heat. - What it takes to properly dry and cure, given my situation. Preparing a space and method. - How long to feed with this setup and to flush earlier with these large amounts of nutes. - How to defoliate and FIM, both succesfull. - That I like big buds... I cannot lie... Size does matter a little... - How to make a compost tea from comfrey and defoliated leaves. - How not to smell forever when handling said tea. - That this tea seems to have several effects: a/ Instant fertilizer for leaves and soil b/ Seems to create a white layer of fungal activity in the soil c/ Seems to create more CO2 coming from the soil d/ Works as PH Down and pretty stable and predictable e/ Seems to ward of pests like gnats, they hate it. f/ Seems to have influence in speed of flowering g/ starting production of trichomes h/ enlarging said trichomes I/ aids in the real funk smell in plant and bud (they are what they eat too) j/ Seems to aid in the terpenes. After feeding the smells really liven up and deepen. k/ Saves on storebought l/ Is easily amendable with wood ash to adapt to flowering stage. m/ seems to regulate soil and plant processes. n/ Seems to aid the adsorption of other nutrients o/ Seems to repair deficiencies p/ The difference between buds of her and the motherplant (that was under 300 watts also) has been day and night in leafyness, density, smells and quantity) q/ Prevents build-up of salts and the usual caking on top. r/ Seems to prevent other diseases, also in our garden. So it works... In the harvest video we will show you the way we made the comfrey tea and where I keep it, our permagarden, introduce myself and maybe even Sunshine, the light of my life, introduces herself. So see you then!! Thank you for al the love and following and the likes and the guesses!! Ill keep you posted!! My review of strain so far: Strain: Gelato #33 Fast Good for beginners: XXXXX yes High yielder: XXX What I've seen it's a medium yielder, jury still out on mine, smaller buds. Resilliance: XXXXX extremely resiliant against lightproblems, fungus gnats, high PH in soil, low water conditions Light lover: she does seem to perform best under higher watts Mold / disease resistent: XXXXX extremely resistent Nutrients: XXXX Needs loads of sulphur or my medium is short on available sulphur, next grow will tell, otherwise normal uptake, can resist up to 2000 PPM in organic nutrients (with the tea added) Vigor: XXXXX even when stressed, never stunted, average stretch during flower Ease of growing: XXXXX Easy to train, responds well to fimming. Clones well, clones resilliant too. Trichomes: XXXXX Large trichome packs with longer than average size, leaves almost not visible by trichome cover (not known if his is average for G33 or because of tea). Effect: Very strong, mental high, not so body stoned but what I smoked was not ripened yet. Attention sucker: XXXXX she is a delight, very easy plant, loves attention but can do days to weeks without care, my training and defoliating regime made it more hands-on but that was my choice. Smell during veg: XXXXX Green grass, hay, fresh piney, stronger than average even in veg. Smell during flowering: XXXXX tones of musk, danky gorilla's ass, citrus, older mens after shaves, spices, gingerbread, cookiedough, vanilla Smell during smoking: XXXXX citrus, deep fruitness, marzapan / almonds, piney Taste: Taste was not optimal yet, no cure but still very much smokeable, not harsh at all. Though very tasty for stage its in. Update follows. Biggest fails / stuff I'm doing next grow to optimize results growing photoperiods (notes for myself next grow): - Get a sort that matches my tastes, expectations and setup, great genetics, good performers under my amount of light. - Amend the soil at start with: vulcastrat / dolomite / epsom salt and a little guano. - Presoak soil, grow companions first, if any. - Arrange for the cooler air to flow past my lights first. Cooling them and preheating air before hitting plants, now it was summer, in Winter it will be different. - If monstercropping again, doing it proper going to 12 instead of 16 hours and fully reveg them - Amend two weeks earlier before flower. - Letting the plants grow bigger: I have 2 mtrs (6ft)of hight, Im using a third now. Also another round of fim before flower. - Ventilation on canopy, lights and under canopy for fatter branches, better airflow and more lifespan and Umol (at 25 C optimal performance) in lights Later additions: - Saving up for 100 to 150 watts in deep red, infra red, UVA strips a/ for simulation sunrise and sunset b/ to have better coverage / c to have the watts just near the 500 watts for this room.
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Grow Questions
BioBuds
BioBudsstarted grow question 4 years ago
Ok so I have uneven plants cause of the stage I received the propagated cuttings in, one was 1,5 weeks ahead. Its taking up its space... the other 2 are smaller, do you think I should start the fowering stage already? They are 7,5 and 6 weeks old now.
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Roberts
Robertsanswered grow question 4 years ago
I would just veg them all longer and apply some training. Aiming for a bigger yield.
BioBuds
BioBudsstarted grow question 3 years ago
Ok getting bit paranoid. Since they are revegged, we can state that they've been stressed a little. So have they hermied? Sources differ a bit on whether pollensacs can have pistils or not, all the sac-looking flowers have at least one or two pistils, none have no pistils...
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Burmese
Burmeseanswered grow question 3 years ago
Hi there, that doesn't look like male pollen sac to me.It's just swelling female calyx.Male pollen sac doesn't have any pistils.Only the female calyx with seeds have.Happy growing... โœŒ๏ธ
BioBuds
BioBudsstarted grow question 3 years ago
If allowed to do a little sidequiz (unsponsored and unaffiliated userinitiative) I like to know your best guess, what my final weigh in is going to be. See this week comments for rules and info! Just for fun, considering laws etc. If prize not allowed, then for honour! GL HF X
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TrickOrTrip
TrickOrTripanswered grow question 3 years ago
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BioBuds
BioBudscommentedweek 153 years ago
Thank you all for liking my work so much that I became master on first grow!! Lots of love, Bud and Sunshine ๐Ÿค—๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ™Œ
Cannabeast40
Cannabeast40commented3 years ago
@BioBuds,๐Ÿ˜Ž๐Ÿ‘Š๐Ÿ™
BioBuds
BioBudscommentedweek 153 years ago
Thank you GD and Fatsbuds or 6th place best Diary of August 2021!!! Im very happy!!!
BioBuds
BioBudscommented3 years ago
@Ezzjaybruh, thanks!!!!
Ezzjaybruh
Ezzjaybruhcommented3 years ago
@BioBuds, nice work man!! Killer results
Cannabeast40
Cannabeast40commentedweek 24 years ago
Happy growing & good luck๐Ÿ‘Š๐Ÿ™๐Ÿ˜€
BioBuds
BioBudscommented4 years ago
@Cannabeast40, thank you!
DevilsBud
DevilsBudcommentedweek 103 years ago
Good luck with your grow ๐Ÿ’ช๐Ÿ’ช
DevilsBud
DevilsBudcommented3 years ago
@BioBuds, no problems mate sometimes GD has his fits sometimes i like and then don't like lol .
BioBuds
BioBudscommented3 years ago
@DevilsBud, thank you very much!! Somehow I only liked this while want to answer everybody who took the time to wish me luck! So sorry bit late...
Ferenc
Ferenccommentedweek 64 years ago
Happy Growing @BioBuds
Cannabeast40
Cannabeast40commentedweek 153 years ago
Looking good mate ๐Ÿ‘Š๐Ÿ˜Ž๐Ÿ‘
Cannabeast40
Cannabeast40commented3 years ago
@BioBuds,aaah nice bro ๐Ÿ˜Ž im sure it will be worth waiting, they look amazing ๐Ÿ˜‹ And happy harvest in a few days time ๐Ÿ’ช๐Ÿ™Œ
Cannabeast40
Cannabeast40commented3 years ago
@BioBuds,๐Ÿ˜๐Ÿ™Œ
BioBuds
BioBudscommented3 years ago
@Cannabeast40, and a real compliment from a master like yourself! Thanks for all the love!!
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SegaYGriega
SegaYGriegacommentedweek 153 years ago
Sugar buds ๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ‘
SegaYGriega
SegaYGriegacommented3 years ago
@BioBuds, Of course see you๐Ÿ˜‰
BioBuds
BioBudscommented3 years ago
@SegaYGriega, now they are harvested well see if they taste as sweet as they looked :p thanks and see you on your diaries!!
JamMAKEcan
JamMAKEcancommentedweek 133 years ago
Hold on i need my pen and paper dam son your a professor๐Ÿ˜ณ๐Ÿ˜ณ...Good job growMIE๐Ÿ˜๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ’ช have fun hope you have a tasty harvest๐Ÿ˜Ž๐Ÿšฌ๐Ÿ†๐Ÿ†๐Ÿ†
JamMAKEcan
JamMAKEcancommented3 years ago
@BioBuds,..thanks ๐Ÿ˜Ž๐Ÿšฌ
BioBuds
BioBudscommented3 years ago
@JamMAKEcan, what very nice compliment! Im not a professor at all, there are very many excellent growers here I learned a lot from in a short time (I never heard of monstercropping and have been growing for 30 years). And my secret bible is growweedeasy.com with Nebula Haze, the author, as my oracle of all things cannabis. If you haven't seen her yet and want to up your game, follow them. Also find growers that have your style or lights or nutrients or strain you want to grow and see what approaches work. Again lovely words but in my case luck and as it tuns out, very resistent and resilliant strain by Advanced Seeds. So thanks and I will follow and check in from time to time and if you're stuck just hook me up here so we will ponder the challenge together! And if you want Im doing a little give-away, some seed for the person closest to guessing my final weigh in!! Hug Buds
JamMAKEcan
JamMAKEcancommentedweek 153 years ago
Sweet.. Great job GrowMie
JamMAKEcan
JamMAKEcancommented3 years ago
@BioBuds,..that is yhe bad part .. Waiting ahh. Lol
BioBuds
BioBudscommented3 years ago
@JamMAKEcan, thanks buddy!! Now we wait again... :)
TenderBuds
TenderBudscommentedweek 133 years ago
Looking good ๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ’ƒ๐Ÿป
BioBuds
BioBudscommented3 years ago
@@@TenderBuds, im sorry sensei, didn't realize I was talking to a Master! :) That seems like no pressure at all, of course, on your next grow, any idea what strain? Im sure you will do that too, some tpeople have to learn this, other just have the touch... Unless that mentor was growing it for you you did a whole lot right with those results!! So good luck for the next one and don't hesitate to PM some of those magical special moves your mysterious Mr Myagy has taught you... grasshopper. See you on your next one!! And if you want, you can try a gamble on my growquestion to guess what my final weigh in will be. If not for the prize (cause of understandable privacy reasons, although I will send them unmarked from my (checkable and public) business, then for the honour my fellow fairy of ganja!
TenderBuds
TenderBudscommented3 years ago
@BioBuds, lol yeah it kinda felt like a death when I cut her down. Glad you enjoyed your grow so much. ๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ’ƒ๐Ÿป
BioBuds
BioBudscommented3 years ago
@@@TenderBuds, yes isn't it completely. Sometimes I just stare and stare at them. Mesmerized by in this case an ocean of glden nuggets that I had visualized beforehand. Providence gave me a reveg and monstercrop that was unplanned but created it. They are grown with love, apologized to them, or her, since she is one and the same lady as clones, whenever I had to hurt them. They are loaded with intention of healing and knowledge to whoever smokes it, and will be ritually harvested, cured and stored with gems in a box. We go bit far but Sunshine, my partner and I are permaculture healers and believe they are teachers if you can establish the right 'deal' with them. Most people just give away their energy for free, while she has lots of gifts to give. Which is why when we smoke after a time we didn't we feel so gloriously at one with all, have wondefull insights, she entices us back in with her gifs. So we go back to smoking daily just to sedate us from all the BS and she stops giving gifts, now she demands more energy and attention. She is a fickle spirit that can hold a lot of might over people. Can't wait to see your results, Im rambling on as usual... :P Enjoyed our little encounter!!
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JamMAKEcan
JamMAKEcancommentedweek 153 years ago
Hat's OFF TO you my growMie.. Wow looks tasty bet the aroma is delicious....
BioBuds
BioBudscommented3 years ago
@JamMAKEcan, thanks buddy!! The smells are amazing, the final days here, so smells are full and danky. Try comfrey compost tea. Youll be amazed and its saves on all flowering nutes. I did this with 100 watts per plant only. Thanks for supporting and checkin buddy! Gl with yours and have you decided on a lamp yet?
RebelMove
RebelMovecommentedweek 123 years ago
Wowww snowy buds๐Ÿคž
BioBuds
BioBudscommented3 years ago
@RebelMove, Thank you!! So happy with results so far. Can't wait!!
sailormoonflowers
sailormoonflowerscommentedweek 153 years ago
Now thats a harvest and an interesting diary @biobuds, nice one. Love Sweety, had a King C Spaniel as a kid, amazing personallity.... Most of all your interest in Shamanism and Teacherplants, wish more people would take time to look at subjects like these I know for sure Ayahuasca/DMT has powers we generally do not understand, not yet sure if mankind truly deserves or what they would do with this knowledge though. Respect & Peace S.M.F
BioBuds
BioBudscommented3 years ago
@sailormoonflowers, and I think all helpers are special, visible or invisible ;) the fact I can see them or not doesn't diminish anyting from the help given, at very least it can enable others to help the helper, who in turn can help even more... Although I completely respect your decission not to share personal stuff anywhere, on many levels.
BioBuds
BioBudscommented3 years ago
@sailormoonflowers, wow 13 rescues, thats a busy home :). In my opinion, intellect is what got us further from 'the truth' and your conclusion on dark matter is same as mine and I've developped my own theorem on this which I use in my coaching: The universe will hide its dark matters as long as people do. I think the next singularity will coincide with people making this paradigmshift in their conscousness. We will harnass space/time when we harnass our conscious mind. And in this light I find simulation theory interesting but a too much one-sided and to littlle magical (or too much mechanical, if you will) part of the equation, where our part in generating reality, or our simulation is left out. I've come to believe that we are omnipowerful in creating said 'simulation' and to put it as a mere simulation is completely denying our devine purpose, as creation, creators, observers and in the end we will find, that certain religious texts were more right when it says: we are made in His likeness, we have the same powers. We create reality every day, by our thoughts and convictions that we are who we are and are worth what we got. If you believe you are not worth much, the universe will comply and match that expectation. In the end, we are made from the same stuff as stars and all in the universe are made from. We are children of light, each a universe in a universe, with immense powers and energy in us. Every day we forget this, we feel unconnected and alone, or insignificant. I wish you a great day and if not, just create it. Love talking to you!! Big hug Bud
sailormoonflowers
sailormoonflowerscommented3 years ago
@BioBuds, thank you, completely agree with your view on the Higgs-Boson particle, the dark matter is now the next frontier to understand. Have you looked in to Simulation Theory which leads to the Simulation Hypothesis by Nick Bostrom, the three alternatives... very interesting and I wont spoil it here in case you have not yet read it. Id really appreciate your opinion, maybe start on wiki its the in fairly basic terms. Elon Musk's famous early days comment "it is highly probable that we are not in base reality" makes me think as Im not an intellectual but smart enough to recognise others that are gifted thinkers.. My Little luke had eye and nose infections most of his life so completely agree, he made it to 11 and was blind for the last 6 months... best I ever had. I have 13 rescues here now not posting pics... IMO I believe helping becomes a little less special when you post pics of stuff like that, thats how i feel anyway... Peace & Love S.M.F
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Growskiiiiii
Growskiiiiiicommentedweek 143 years ago
Sweet Buds Mate good luck for the rest pf flowering๐Ÿ˜Š
BioBuds
BioBudscommented3 years ago
@Growskiiiiii, cant wait to see your results. Big hug!!
Growskiiiiii
Growskiiiiiicommented3 years ago
@BioBuds, Ty so much! Big Love ๐Ÿ˜˜
BioBuds
BioBudscommented3 years ago
@Growskiiiiii, thank you so much! They went dark yesterday!! Harvest week has arrived ๐Ÿ‘ Good luck to you again, Im following and rooting for ya in the contest!
SegaYGriega
SegaYGriegacommentedweek 153 years ago
Congratulations on the harvest, bro !!! I wish your expectations were met ๐Ÿ˜‰, in any case, we enjoy watching the growth process ๐Ÿ‘
SegaYGriega
SegaYGriegacommented3 years ago
@BioBuds,๐Ÿคœ๐Ÿค›๐Ÿค๐Ÿ˜‰
BioBuds
BioBudscommented3 years ago
@SegaYGriega, thank you and for all the support Sega
Maryjane23
Maryjane23commentedweek 153 years ago
Very nice!!!! Stai hight!!!๐Ÿคช๐Ÿคช
Maryjane23
Maryjane23commented3 years ago
@BioBuds, ahahaha lo capisco e concordo! ๐Ÿคช๐Ÿคช
BioBuds
BioBudscommented3 years ago
@Maryjane23, thank you! Ive been so for the past 31 years and hope to stay baked till death do us part ;p
Kitties_and_Colas
Kitties_and_Colascommentedweek 153 years ago
"aids in the real funk smell in plant and bud (they are what they eat too)" ...I never thought in those terms but it makes sense... good luck with your grow!! ๐Ÿฑโค๏ธ๐Ÿ’ก๐ŸŒฑ
Kitties_and_Colas
Kitties_and_Colascommented3 years ago
@BioBuds, we were making 5gal batches of worm tea for a while but decided against bringing it inside anymore, the smell is just too much lol.. we use outside and on all the vegetables though :)
BioBuds
BioBudscommented3 years ago
@Kitties_and_Colas, im no scientist and I did not do a dpubleblind test but my reasoning is that when we eat loads of onions we sweat unions but as soon as I started givi ng it, thr smell of the grow, soil and room changed as did the soiltemp and smell off co2. But.... then Idiscussed it someone I know who grows. He started giving it to his plants midblossom. I witnessed his buds in white straoght pistil fluffy stage. His run had no strong smells en no trichomes. The day after trichs wete forming a danky skunk smell was very noticable. Two grows in different stages, everytime I do 100 ml on a liter to 250 ml p liter as long as ph stayed above 6.3, My tapwater is 7.6. Try comfreytea, will make video of mine, I tweaked mine with clipped weed leaves and dandelion. When going to flower you can up the dosage of the tea by addimg some wood ash, which is alkaline. Its natural PK, leave it overnight to let the microbes and the lactobacterial toxines (vinegars and carbohydrates) let the K and P into its HCL version. Alsp ph stabilizes this way. Just as a comparison; check other grows with this strain. Its not an abundant yielder, but no one tried this and get the same size and bigger buds on a monstercrop w only 100 watt !!! per plant Thanks for your support and tey compost tea youll be amazed with its niomalizing properties. Final tip, if you have a growing nemessis, like gnats, thrips or mites for instance, choose the herb most active against this pest, check if not antimicrobial, add to tea, use 1/5 solutoin as foliar... Never growing withour it again. I will poar a pic of our garden which we also fed with it. It exploded... Hug Bud
DevilsBud
DevilsBudcommentedweek 153 years ago
Congrats on your harvest buddy enjoy your harvest when there ready . Off with there heads
BioBuds
BioBudscommented3 years ago
@DevilsBud, thanks buddy!! Now we wait again... thanks for the love!!
DoDrugs420
DoDrugs420commentedweek 133 years ago
Gelato #33 is exactly what my momma would've wanted me to have.
BioBuds
BioBudscommented3 years ago
@DoDrugs420, :P and momma knows best!!! Ty for the likes, coming right back at ya!!!
JamMAKEcan
JamMAKEcancommentedweek 143 years ago
Half a pound..how much weight is in this grow??...yea.. I'll๐Ÿค”๐Ÿค”say 1/2pound dry weight..224grams...๐Ÿค”๐Ÿค”๐Ÿค”๐Ÿ˜ณ๐Ÿ˜ณ
BioBuds
BioBudscommented3 years ago
@JamMAKEcan, is noted!! Ty for playing!!!