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7 years ago
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Week 1. Vegetation
7 years ago
1.27 cm
18 hrs
26 °C
5.5
No Smell
150 PPM
30 %
22 °C
23 °C
18 °C
0 L
1 L
96.52 cm
Nutrients 2
Marphyl Marine Phytoplankton 5 mll
CALiMAGic  - Terra Aquatica
CALiMAGic 1 mll
Day 1, 2 - Starting w/ 3 seeds only to leave room for improvement. After an approx. 14 hr. soak in a very mild kelp solution, followed up w/ paper towel method in seed tray placed on heating pad in grow tent (8 sq. ft.) w/ all vent windows open and zipper just a bit cracked. Re-hydrate every 6 hrs. w/ mild kelp solution (5 drops in approx. 1l. 6.5/7.0ph tap H20 [just waiting on liquid ph/ppm pens to be delivered]) kept on heating pad, ready to use, to match temps. Paper towel dried quite a bit overnight on Day 1. More generous w/ H20 in a.m. and placing dish of boiling H20 inside tent. Conditions, heat and humidity, almost instantly perfect. Tap roots about 18 hrs. or so after paper towel. 2nd morning tray is still a bit dry in morning but not quite as much. Tap roots about 1/4 inch on all three. Repeated what I did yesterday. Going to consider partial dome covering overnight. But so far, so good.👍 Day 3 Wow! Could not ask for a better reception! Thanks everyone, so far, for your time and EXTREMELY helpful feedback. I think the general motto here will be that all advice is very welcome. So tap roots beefed up really quick. About 1" if straightened. Gotta get them into medium. Strained 3 cups Canna coco coir, twice in standing tap water, last w/ distilled. Ph fell quite a bit. I guess it's true that even the best coco should be rinsed. No joy thinking ahead to 10gal. pots. Lowest reading at 3.5. Mixed 1 part perlite to 3 parts moist coco (just 250ml. cups). Should really have added it to dry coco in hindsight. Cut drainage in 3 cups and filled about 3/4 full. Might want to pack more medium around them once they stretch. Set them aside for tomorrow. Environment in tent has been perfect all day. Paper towel moistened about 4 times today. Not liking this dry heat, especially during night, but manageable during day. Sure enough, this morning the paper was pretty dry and the tips of the taproots were complaining. Gave them nice soak then put them in their new home. Elevated cups on grate (bbq screen 👌) above drainage tray. I'll come up w/ something better b/c I don't want metal from grate messing w/ readings in runoff. A bit pissed at self about roots. Mycorrhizae coming tomorrow. Damn. Mixed a weak nutrient sol. (toward 300+ml. per 250ml. cup) for now until ppm pen arrives (I'll lend you mine ExperimentGREEN 😋). Instinct tells me moisture and darkness might suffice until the surface breaks, but that it may be safer to err on the side of nature and introduce light cycle now. Will put up some pics very soon. Please feel free to backseat. I am not planning on growing strictly organic or synthetic. Just by need so far. I don't mind knowing if I am failing miserably so that I can correct it. * These little girls are just about to say hello. Can just see the backs of their necks. Flushed a bit of yesterday away w/ a couple cups of distilled. Hope this pen is working correctly. Distilled H20 tested 500ppm! Ummmm.... Standing runoff tested around the same. After a bit of fiddling, fresh runoff is 388ppm (or is it??). My tap water was only in the high 200's. Looking into this. * Had an idea. Final grow area will be laundry room. Might experiment later w/ splicing into dryer ventilation. Duct wye and out fan should direct scent outside (or make my clothes smell like GC 😁). Possibly be able to recycle dryer heat and humidity as needed. Something to think about. Day 5 or something Been a little horny getting this GD started. Not too proud to admit it 😀. Now Week 1 officially begins! Climate control is obvious focal point. Long weekends are fantastic and all, but w/ mail flowing again, I'm going to be opening boxes like it's Xmas (sure is fun to see my little boy's reaction when told I paid $ for worm poop, bat poop, fish juice on the internet!). Should be able to tackle temp. and humidity issues just in time. Much needed. They've all popped. 2 have their serrated leaves. Flushed soil w/ 0ppm water to correct things. Gotta leave shit alone! Runoff less than 20ppm. Ph 7.5+ Sol. = 2.5ml. CalMag; 5ml. Kelp; 1 drip Ph down = >200ppm; Ph 5.5 Soil = Ph 6.5 (hopefully a bit less once things soak and settle); 20-22°C Air = 26°C/18% (stuck them in dome)
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ifyoufly
ifyouflystarted grow question 7 years ago
I wonder if adding top dressing of worm castings to coco coir will be beneficial or defeat the purpose of a soil-less approach? Any informed advice and suggestion is welcome.
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Mr_Positivoanswered grow question 7 years ago
No need to make your first grow more complicated than it needs to be. I would recommend making your grow as conventional as possible. Focus on finding the correct lighting levels, creating a full canopy before switching to flower and not killing your plants by adding too many nutrients. Generally speaking, there are enough variables balancing these components, especially in an LED/coco grow, that adding another won't benefit you much if at all. Growing is fun but most of us screw up many times before we get it right so patience and astute observation is key. Good luck.
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Week 2. Vegetation
7 years ago
5.08 cm
18 hrs
26 °C
5.8
No Smell
700 PPM
55 %
19 °C
22 °C
18 °C
1 L
0 L
60.96 cm
Nutrients 8
Humboldt Golden Tree 2 mll
pH Perfect Grow - Advanced Nutrients
pH Perfect Grow 2 mll
pH Perfect Bloom - Advanced Nutrients
pH Perfect Bloom 2 mll
That looks like quite the grocery list of nutrients so I should explain if not just to clarify this to myself 😲 Week 1 is a bit of a throwaway. Now that I feel I somewhat know what the black jesus I'm doing, I did a small transplant as I was never very happy w/ the starter cups I had on hand and felt I could better start fresh w/ the application of improved nutes. Sprinkled a tsp. of Mykos around the hole and root ball of each transplant. Filled them in and trussed as necessary. 2 seedlings were completely uprooted (which freaked me the F out) in process. One of their taproots was U shaped. Mixed first sol. w/ Golden Tree and Superthrive along w/ slightly weaker than initial goal regular feed (approx. 800 total ppm and diluted to half for smaller plants). The goal to give them some juice to kick off while minimizing any shock. Just water and CalMag next day for a small flush before Adv.Nut. Trio. No signs of stress and all signs of strong seedlings. Lights moved down to 2ft. above plants (the 2 leafers get CFL, heat pad, and dome for now). pH a steady 5.7-6.0 and ppms just right. All temps. are very steady. No fluctuations greater than 10 degrees. Humidity could be steadier but maybe I'm being nitpicky. Gave plants a separate dose of silica from nutrient sol. Silica is only soluble at pH 7 (neutral). Nute sol. pH 5.8. Runoff 6.2pH. I'm happy w/ that. Will come back down next regular feeding. Am going to give straight water every 2 days. And holy sheep shit! What a boost from RAW Silica and Adv. Nuts. in just a day! Visibly different from just this morning. Standing straight everywhere and looking very symmetrical. No signs of burn at all. They might be a little pale, but they might not be since the green of the cucumber guinea pigs is always within eyeshot. Will keep an eye on how they thrive and consider enriching nitrogen content a bit should they not. I'm wondering now how often I should supplement w/ silica during veg? The ladies are loving the Adv. Nuts. 2ml/l of each; 1ml/l CaliMagic = pH 5.8 every time. They're really coming along quickly now. Looking forward to settling them down for a bit in 1 gal. smart pots soon. So much to learn still!
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Week 5. Vegetation
7 years ago
10.16 cm
18 hrs
28 °C
5.8
Weak
450 PPM
55 %
22 °C
24 °C
20 °C
11 L
1 L
60.96 cm
Nutrients 9
Sensi Cal-Mag Xtra - Advanced Nutrients
Sensi Cal-Mag Xtra 2 mll
pH Perfect Grow - Advanced Nutrients
pH Perfect Grow 2 mll
pH Perfect Bloom - Advanced Nutrients
pH Perfect Bloom 2 mll
Haven't updated in some time. I have taken pics along the way however and intend to update previous weeks. Been concentrating on a solid regimen and method that suits the plants best for the environment I've created. There was a solid flush b/f transplant to 3 gal. smart pots. pH was out of wack a bit and I think the girls were letting me know it. I'm still not quite clear why (I've read that high ph means low food levels, and vice versa, but i don't feel confident that that is correct) but every time I would flush w/ low pH water, runoff pH levels would increase. Weird. Gave nothing next day and they were perky. Then transplanted to 3 gal. (originally was going to make 5 gal. their final destination, but I think 3 gal. might be since I've used up most of my medium. We'll see where they are b/f the flip). Levels are perfect again. Gave a significant pruning during transplant. Keeping them nice and low w/ LST, (can't believe I am saying this) HST, mainlining in areas (which does go against some of the excellent advice I have received. I really do keep all of it in mind constantly and weigh my next steps against this advice. Thank you so much for your time. Gotta take the occasional risk though), and mini scrogs I made from bamboo skewers. The GC seems to get pretty bushy. Should have been named Ono OG or simply Demi Moore. I also FIMed some areas and topped some others to note the difference. Would love to hear some feedback on what others prefer and why. Finally, cut out "root" nutrients until flower (addition of Sensizym after transplant only) and sticking to essentials and choice additives to keep ppm down. In attempting to dial in the exactly amount they need, I dilute the final mix if necessary unless it's Calmag/Revive day (once a week) which I add separately, full strength, to diluted sol. In hindsight, I would have let their stems stretch more in the first stages. But I do like what's going on. UPDATE: just topped all flowering spots to fill some holes and attempt to encourage a burst. The "outward" is in check. Some "upward" is very much in order. Would like to reach 2 ft. by wk. 8-10. Would do this vice versa next time. Too much concern about containment in young stages. Def. intro. training much later, or at the very least, be less aggro out of the gate.
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ifyoufly
ifyouflystarted grow question 7 years ago
Last question was pretty noob haha...I AM pretty noob afterall. Curious what rules others go by r.e. flushing their coco. I've heard some say, as a rule, once a week. Others only when probs. appear. Also, how often do you feed between straight watering, or do you feed ev. day? Ty
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MUDBUGanswered grow question 7 years ago
If u in coco u have to feed everywatering and keep tabs of the ppm u dont have to worry about flushing coco unless you over feed her its just like hydro your ph has to stay in a coco range your plant uptake is like hydro if u watch ppms you will not have to flush till the last 3 weeks u need a 14- 21 day flush in coco but feed her every watering exp with calmag👍👍✌️✌️🍻🍻
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TheBudWhispereranswered grow question 7 years ago
As solo said above, best to keep it simple: regarding the flush, if it ain’t broke, don’t fix it! Use a flush to clear out the medium when there’s a problem, otherwise feed/water as usual. Regarding nutes and feed, a good rule of thumb is to feed with nutes every other watering until you dial in perfect amounts and Required frequency (only acquired through experience). Hope it helps and reach out any time. Cheers
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