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Day 43/Flower Day 15 - Stretch, stretch and more stretch. Literally have all my headspace taken up and thats using flat LED Bars! Its not for want of light, these things HAVE to be getting a DLI over 45 now if not near 50 (I need to do a test)!!! Defs going to invest in 2 Royal Blue LED Bars for next grow. As soon as I bend over/tie down one set of big pushers, another pair start up that were not being shaded/shadowed by the previous set. Worried too with the stretch being as severe, the yield will suffer! As noted in comments, will be venting the building the grow tent is in better very soon but when I can get that done is another thing!!! Looks like I am going to have to pull my extraction out of the tent and run a blow through the carbon filter and get some more ratchet hangers to give me an extra 9-12"!!! Has to be Heat/Humidity and then the feed from the lights giving them what they need. Luckily, I am due to be receiving a 6" AC Infinity Setup tomorrow so may be the way to set it up just for the last 8 weeks of the grow. Also had 2 brand new RAM 7" Oscillating fans pack up within a few hours of each other...not 4 weeks old and they're done! The Sweet Cherry Pie defs not setting buds as quick as the Red Hot Cookies...they look a few days to a week behind. This also probably means the last of growing different strains in the same tent! I don't have the space/means to set up a drying tent and need to use the grow space for that so need them to finish the same time. Both these are supposed to be a same week finisher but with the slower budset, I don't know (@Kagonisss, did you notice a difference in the bud setting between the Red Hot Cookies and the Sweet Cherry Pie???) - I could over-ripen the RHC or take the SCP when a bit under. Basically, that's it though. Nothing more to report other than things I have to engineer to get around! From the looks of it, I'll have no room to get my UVB tube in when the time comes but, dunno...we'll see. Have upped the Bloom Nutes now to be higher than the base to fuel the initial flower set. Have a bit of lower leaf fall off from lack of light/plants using the reserves and probs going to have to do a bit of a defoliate by the end of the week to settle humidity and have them top buds concentrated on. Apart from that, Happy Growing all!!! πŸ’ͺ
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xbrico
xbricoweek 10
D65/FD37 - Having a look and a think...I think these girls may have been sensitive to the couple of light problems I had...or I did notice in the video I had a pinhole of light come into the tent at the top of the zip and I am thinking I may have had an accidental reveg on the SCP (front one anyway, not checked the back). Noticing a few long, smooth "sugar leaves" which makes me think they either don't like the 13/11 or the light issues. Will continue to monitor and hopefully they come too...should do as they were in flower a good bit when the light issues happened...again though, pinhole of light was just the other day but should not have been enough to start a reveg, but we'll see. Lesson learned if it is!!! :/
Absurd
Absurdweek 0
Does the fogger heat up that reservoir any appreciable amount? Good luck on the grow!
xbrico
xbrico
@Absurd, TBH, can't really tell with this heat we're going through at the moment...had no real chance to Baseline it! :/
xbrico
xbricoweek 6
Day 39/Flower Day 11 - Srsly girls, chill!!! I can't hold fit to this stretch...they're getting up there!!! At this rate, I'm going to have to pull out the extraction gear, invert it and start blowing through my carbon filter, all outside of the tent!!! Humidity in grow area doesn't help either...getting some passive vents put in the Cabin to allow some better air exchange and suck better/drier air into the grow tent. These things are chucking water!!! Starting to get the 1st under screen leaf fall happening...leaves are getting a bit paler and dropping off at the very bottom so hopefully too, less leaves=less humidity - Going to have to go on a bit of a stripping session in a few days I'd say for the end of transition. Also, looking to treat myself to a 6" AC Infinity setup...anyone use it? Any reports on it being good, bad, ugly? Currently using a 5", 35 local currency RAM inline 2 speed which could become an intake fan..spent the extra on the Rhino Pro Carbon Filter though back in the day and its doing grand still for its 3rd grow...could do with a change out though as occasionally get the faintest whiff of something green when passing the cabin window!!! 😝 Apart from that, ended up not changing my schedule for tonight due to the extra time the lights were on...hoping the girls and I just forget about it as a nasty, 1 off happening and then I'll be adding 15mins on tomorrow to get it to 12.5/11.5 on the slide to 13/11 or maybe even 13.5/10.5 (Which apparently equates to 13.5/12.5 as the flower initiator changes PFr to Pr pretty instantly so they don't have the standard 2 hours conversion time allowing for extra lights on time and them still getting the equivalent hours of Darkness, or Levels of Pr in the leaves for enough of the day or some bro science!!!!). Happy Growing all!!! πŸ’ͺ
Absurd
Absurd
@xbrico, aah I didn't see that combo, good find, should be great. t4 gets a bit too loud for me running more than speed 8, even at max(205cfm according to specs) I don't think it would keep up with the 4x4 in my setup if I filled it, so good call on the 6" too. 23C, pretty chilly, you find that with 18C in lights-off helps limit the flower mode stretch? I've heard cool temps in mid to late flower helps promote colors, at least anthocyanin purples, and running warmer temps during lights off helps limit stretch(not something I could pull off). I would love any tips for controlling stretch though, I love sativa style plants but have such a hard time wrangling them without a trellis net. I found a page of an importer/wholesaler, but no single Rhinos = super jealous of the lifetime you get with those.
xbrico
xbrico
@Absurd, Aye, went with the 6" S Combo that has the Controller 67 in with it. Get the fan, ducting, carbon filter, controller 67 and some garden shears! :) Seems to be a lot of places now just calling it the Combo and not T series or S series as most people want the fancy display and Smartphone app control that goes along with it too. Starting to get cooler here so hopefully a cranked window may keep the heat down enough so as I dont have to pull and reinstall extraction while in early flower...just start pulling a lot of leaves this week to get the humidity down and let nature do the cold thing to get them into a nicer range - a tent that has been sitting at 23C during the day now into the 18's so hopefully that will halt the stretch (which is due anyway) and maybe start bringing out the colours...esp. the pink in the Red Hot Cookies!!! Pity about the Rhino Pro stuff not being available in the US...Its the go-to in Europe...cheap and does the job. The Hobby range they do is dirt cheap (I have one as a spare raising my humidifier up - that's how cheap they are!!!) and the Pro are pretty bulletproof...like I say, 3 grows and its fresh air at the end of the hose. If I had a bigger one on a higher throughput fan, I'd say it'd clean the whole room its in and you wouldn't get that "tent leak". MY current fan only like 200CFM in a 4x4 so not really enough to do a full room filter...its really just on the edge of whats needed for the tent size alone. Going up 1" with this Cloudline will give me double the CFM so hopefully not even get the tent leak any more! I know I wont be paying for an AC Infinity Filter anyway at the end of its life...be going the Rhino Pro.
Absurd
Absurd
@xbrico, hm, the S series I'm seeing are packaged with just a manual speed controller, no temp/RH probe, and the 'controller 63' is an optional manual speed control wireless remote. Looks like the T series still has the same controller I have, the basic one with temp/rh probe but no fancy features beyond triggering on when temp/rh setpoints are reached. I could be wrong though, haven't looked too hard. Yes that's it, the 'controller 67' is the more advanced one I was thinking, they released it shortly after I picked up my t4, and it looks like you still have to buy it separate? https://www.acinfinity.com/hvac-home-ventilation/whole-house-fan-systems/controller-67-temperature-and-humidity-fan-controller/ at a quick glance they seem to hint it works for both the S and the T series though, so you save some cash getting the S series if you wanted that more advanced controller. I think you're going to be happy with the fan though. I looked into the Rhino filters you mentioned originally, doesn't seem like they're easy to get in the states πŸ˜₯
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homerjgangia
homerjgangiaweek 0
Good luck with your grow mate!πŸ’ͺπŸ’ͺ
spyder
spyderweek 0
good luck with the grow...enjoy.
Godesskat
Godesskatweek 14
Everything is better with a bag of weedπŸ‘» Good luck happy growing😍
BioBuds
BioBudsweek 13
Going great!! Final stretch now!! Good luck and have fun πŸ‘πŸ’ͺ!!
Ferenc
Ferencweek 4
Happy Growing @xbrico
Ferenc
Ferencweek 2
Happy Growing @xbrico
xbrico
xbricoweek 8
D54/FD26 - So looks like the Cherry pie is having a final push to itself...its sprouted up a bit and is light praying so hopefully this is the last kick it has before full flower production. Plants still drinking heavy and feeding light but no issues to speak of...1 Cherry Pie at the very back corner has the slightest bit of purpling on a petiole or 2 near the top but the rest of the top of that branch is green so will observe to ensure no serious progression. Likely a symptom of the stretch though as its now getting some full pelt light on it. Should be plenty of PK in there so unlikely a deficiency there...it is next to a fan too and the side of the passive vent so could be its getting a touch of chill from the morning temp drops before the heater kicks in (Still keeping everything above 20C...may let it slide down now for colour to 18 to be the bottom night temp. Apart from that, still motoring along nicely. Happy Growing all! πŸ’ͺ
xbrico
xbricoweek 8
D53/FD25 - Nothing much to report...Cookies coming along great...still a bit of push in them all but defs slowing down! Sweet Cherry Pie running a bit behind but buds starting to look better now - it probably got the 13/11 too quick and have added a week onto her (Hopefully not though and she races on through at the end!!!). Plants drinking 5+ liters a day. Taking on Slightly more water than feed so added 15L back last night of just plain tap water...brought the EC down to 1.5 (Had crept up to 2.0) and that brought the pH back to 6.0/6.1 - seeing a slow drop in pH but to be expected as they eat the potassium up. Rather than keep these at 6 on the nose, I'm trying to let them flit more around the 5.8 mark as not seeing any calcium issues (of any note...just a spot or 2 on 0.1% of leaves) and the stretch *looks* to be over now so they should have a bit less of a requirement. Also, depending on what chart you look at, Hydro pH for Calcium is best below 5.9 (down to 5.5 where some say has to be 6 and over) and really, magnesium is the only one that really needs 6 and over (But starts in the 5.8 area for uptake). Apart from the ever reducing headspace, all going according to plan so far! Happy growing all!!! πŸ’ͺ
xbrico
xbricoweek 8
D50/FD22 - Wee question...Has Botanicare pulled the Kind Line? Can't find it on their webpage anymore! Feed Charts and all gone!!! Anyone that can let me know, please do. Have probably 1-2 more grows with what I have left - need to see if I need to research a new feed line for next year!!!
xbrico
xbricoweek 0
*** Update *** 29/7 - All previous trimming finally complete...OMFG trimming sux balls!!! Well, the girls were outgrowing the fogger box but as I didn't get finished until late, didn't get time to wash the clay pebbles and do a bit of hoovering to get the girls in their final pots! Will get that done tomorrow. Veg diary begins then! As I have no light support for the girls without the lid, I moved them into the tent so get a bit of good light on them and a bit of a breeze about them to strengthen up them stems. Got them under the big girl light at a DLI of about 40 to see how they respond and acclimatise. As much as the light is a 3500K LED, stuck the UVA LED's on too to help keep them down short and as they would get it outside anyway, hopefully again acclimatise them to it for when the UVB310 goes on them during flower (I know...thinking wayyyyy far ahead already!!!). When they're potted up and on the normal feed, I'll get them on the 18/6 cycle. From the pics, the left 2 are the Sweet Cherry Pie, the Mid runt (The one that popped out of the coco during germ) is a Red Hot Cookies and the 2 on the right are Red Hot Cookies too (The bottom one slightly smaller due to being popped 4-5 days after the rest). OMFG, Fogponics gets some SERIOUS roots on them!!! The Big Cherry Pie has a total mass of roots about 12" long while the runt even has a 8-9" taproot down now. All got good ladder/lateral roots being in the water (can't wait to do a UCDWC next run/next year). So far, these appear to be incredibly hardy girls. Big props to @Sweet_Seeds for the donation!!! Happy Growing all!!!
GMSgrows
GMSgrowsweek 15
Reaping the rewards soon may friend. She's looking tasty...
xbrico
xbrico
@GMSgrows, Indeed, is nice to know both sides of the equation though! :) Cheers again for all the support too!
GMSgrows
GMSgrows
@xbrico, nice growing my friend. Wet weight matters not. It's the dry weight that counts....
xbrico
xbrico
@GMSgrows, Cheers sir...did make 1 mistak ethough...forgot to weigh!!! :'( 1 cola alone, I know by feel was over 1/2lb in weight!!! I have had to cut it up to dry it and it is in nugs the size of rubix cubes!!! :P
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Kagonisss
Kagonisssweek 6
i bro good grow πŸ‘Ši do the same test strain of sweet seed i noticed this strain have too strecth in flower but the cola its beautifull and smell its amazing πŸ’ͺ
Kagonisss
Kagonisss
@xbrico,Sorry but like mike tyson before or after he discover cocaine ??? 😈😎 im joking
xbrico
xbrico
@Kagonisss, Cheers for the view/like and info! So far, I am seeing the biggest stretch in the youngest of my 2 Red Hot Cookies. Its head and shoulders above the ones planted 5 days before them. My smolest one is a Sweet Cherry Pie that was built like Mike Tyson...the whole thing could have fit in a shoe box it was that tight with nodes!!!!
Kagonisss
Kagonisssweek 1
fantastic setup bro i test the same strain of sweetseed if u want to look my diary im very HAPPY . good luck for the rest of the grow πŸ‘ŠπŸ’ͺ
DreamIT
DreamITweek 0
Enjoy growth mate πŸ€πŸ¦„πŸ€˜
Sweet_Seeds
Sweet_Seedsweek 0
Thank you very much for sharing a new diary with one of our strains. 😊 We hope you enjoy it. πŸ˜‹ Sweet smokes, - Apolo
PeppaWutz
PeppaWutzweek 0
Happy growing πŸ€΄πŸ™Œ
xbrico
xbricoweek 7
D49/FD21 - So, talk about a bad day!!! Pulled the pics for my time lapse for later (As I start my week 4 tonight and will be starting my new week) and have noticed that my light, yet again has fucked up!!! It's an LED, GeekLight Geekbeast Pro 630W with the Remote App/Timer control. So, the story is; During veg, I noticed (By accident 1 day when I went out to work in the cabin where my tent is) that randomly, the light flickered on and off...totally random to its lowest power setting. App shows the light is powered off. Worked with Geekbeast and redid timers, set all manual controls and dimmer to off, etc. in case of some power bleed. Never happened again...until the last couple of day where when timers have not been touched, the lights went into 5% mode again!!! Now, of all the f**king times it could do this!!! 3 weeks into flower!!! On the 10th, 1 frame caught the lights on about 20 mins after lights off (and had been 730nm flower initiated to sleep). Hoping up-to 1 min of a "Light Leak" on that day will hopefully do nothing as the flower initiator should have all the Phytochrome changed so its still getting "more" than 12 hours sleep (Also running on the edge here as I am running a 13/11...flower initiator basically makes it a "13/13" day). Then I get to the 14th...lights go off, flower initiator on for 10mins, flower initiator off then 5 mins later the lights go on for 33 mins, then off for about the same then on again for 33min then off again for a couple of mins then remain on (at 5%) from 10:54am til the lights went to full power again at 7:30pm (which is my on time)!!! THEN the next morning (15th) lights off at 8:30am, 10mins of flower initiator 19 mins off then 10 mins on, 11mins off, 14mins on then dark til 7:30pm!!! Now, hoping against all hope that this will not trigger a regveg!!! I did have a f**k-up of my own accord week 1 of transition where I didn't set the timer to go off and they had 14hours of light in 1 day (I did get the main light off and then flower initiator them as soon as I caught on) but thankfully no issues seen then but now I am sweating (Sweet Cherry Pie is a bit slower in the budding though so may have been an impact!!!)!!! Will be monitoring very closely and hopefully the plants forgive me and don't go mental. I have thrown a timer in there now to cut the juice to the main light at 8:30am so hopefully no accidents and set to come on 1 min before normal lights on so as the light can "Download it settings" and trigger its timer mode (For the UVA I run and the brightness)...come to think of it, I may just disable the main light timer and use the digital one and as UVA only comes on between 00:00 and 4am, all settings should be downloaded by then - no big deal though if UVA doesn't come on as Iintend on running a proper Migro UV Tube last 2-3 weeks of flower. So, PSA to all @Geeklight growers out there and if you're using their app/remote control setup (Monster Board/Geekbeast)...If you're seeing problems with your grow, check for Power Bleed. This is so intermittent its unbelievable. The fact the app can override the manual controls means dimmer being at 0 does nothing. This can happen and when it is happening, the app will show your light is OFF!!! I am on with Geeklight HQ about it as its unacceptable that the controller can't realise this is happening and may cause you issues. If you're considering a geeklight...as much as the light is good/cheap (esp. if got direct from Alibaba)/powerful/even PAR map; really consider if its the right light (Geekbeast anyway). 730nm Channel is not independent from the main lights (Its on the same driver) so you can't run EoD treatment (And don't know if its the right ratio of 660:730nm for an all day Emerson Effect Treatment). The app doesn't allow for a "Sunrise/Sunset" mode if you're wanting that unless you want to set a pile of ascending and descending timers and is the UV powerful??? dunno but wasn't enough to help add that "Lower Blue" spectrum to help control stretch as my girls are pushing for the sky!!! and DEFINITELY don't rely on the app timer!!! Manual mode with hard current cutoff with a timer, or if it picks up the settings correct after being hard powered off (I can advise later), only use timer for UVA/IR treatment - still need to see if this auto-turns on the IR after powering on (which I have noticed it does in the past)!!! Lets hope no Herms/Reveg and I'll keep ya all updated!!! Happy Growing all!!! πŸ’ͺ