I topped them both on 12/16, then lst the new branches down. I waited for 6 nodes to grow out and topped down to the 3rd node. Stripped every growing tip below the manifold. I'm leaving the leaves and removing the growing tips. I'll let them go to 4 nodes and top back to the 2nd, removing the tips below the 2nd node and lst the branches sideways/down. Removing the tips really seems to help focus all the energy on your new "tops". I'm leaving the leaves for now to help fuel growth. I'll remove them when I drop in the screen. I tried my hand at cloning too, they aren't dried and shriveled yet so it might work. I put them in jiffy pellets. The 2 plants leaves look about identical, so hopefully they're the same phenotypes for my organic vs synthetic home experiment.