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Hydronautcommentedweek 03 years ago
Is there a consensus of when day 1 starts? I always called day 1 the day the seedling breaks the medium surface as seeds can pop in one day, or five. I know there are plenty of opinions here. Thoughts?
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Gelato Autoflower
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Tent
2 x 2 Steel Cabinet
Indoor
Room Type
Defoliation
weeks 2-5, 7-8, 12
FIMing
weeks 3
Topping
weeks 3-4
LST
weeks 3-5, 7-8
Expanded Clay
Grow medium
Mineral Wool
Grow medium
30 L
Pot Size
Strain
Gelato Autoflower
Growing it
Normal
Resistance
Strong
Plant grew completely out of control and packed the small grow cabinet. Several ounces of airy junks where light was not able to reach.
The Outcome
Week 13
Harvest
What's on the scales?
167.26
gram
ounce
Bud dry weight
What's on the scales?
1133.98
gram
ounce
Bud wet weight
Harvested
1
Number of plants harvested
Grow Room
0.36
m²
ft²
Grow Room size
0.8
g / watt
470.37
g / m²
167.26
g / plant
2.81
plant / m²
590.55
watt / m²
Photos & Videos
6 ozs of top bin buds. At least 4 oz of usuables in the trash.
Lots of snow
6 ozs of top bin buds. At least 4 oz of usuables in the trash.
Lots of snow
Tastes like
Citrus
Flowery
Pine
Feels like
100% Sativa 0% Indica
Positive effects
Euphoric
Happy
Negative effects
Dry mouth
Medical effects
Anxiety
Reviews. Nutrient
Flawless when used correctly:)
Reviews. Lamp
Reviews. Tent
I threw everything at this grow including CO2, and a hardy defoliation - and several toppings. I have learned that maybe in 3.8 sf to leave the CO2 off, and only top once. Heavier removal further down the plant before flower for sure. The plant was EXTREMELY vivacious, and grew into a tight "growing-ball." This plant may have hit 10-12oz of top bin buds if I had her outside the grow box, and stretched around a bit for better light penetration. Next run, I will back off these variable and continue the data collection. I only kept the quality buds, and probably threw away 3-4 ounces of useable but mediocre bud and larf.
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Grow Questions
Hydronautstarted grow question 3 years ago
Can some of you tell me what you consider day 1? Tap sprout, breaking soil/medium, etc? One of those things that deserve standardization of sorts, right?
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Germination. Cube
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Hashyanswered grow question 3 years ago
I usually class day 0 as the day they break ground and day 1 the day after cos its 1 day old.
Hydronautstarted grow question 3 years ago
If for my grow, I call day 1 when the seed breaks medium, should I be including the next 6 days under germination week, or start week 2 as veg?
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Germination. Other
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Ezzjaybruhanswered grow question 3 years ago
Interesting papa T - I get it’s not true veg til a few weeks in but there’s no seedling stage for the diary so I just start week 1 of veg on the diary as the day it pops thru medium and cotyledons open and face the light
Hydronautstarted grow question 3 years ago
Can one top an Auto (10-14 week strain) in late 4th week? I’ve been topping on day 21 since growing autos but feel there room based on past grows. Advantages/Disadvantages if done before preflower?
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Setup. Strain - Autoflowering
Techniques. Topping
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Papa_Tanswered grow question 3 years ago
Most people generally don’t top an auto but your plant is looking like fire and you’ve got a good grasp of what you’re doing by the looks of it. So I say if you’re having success doing what you do then don’t change bro. It sounds like you already know when to do this strategically as to not stress the plant at critical phases.
Obviously the short lifespan of an auto makes it less desirable to stress it through its life. But a plant is a plant and it can be topped.
But topping before preflower is gonna decreases bud sites. I don’t think there’s benefits from doing this at this point.
Cheers 🤙
Hydronautstarted grow question 3 years ago
My Plantess is bigger than the BBanner, Zkittlez, GGlue Autos grown in the past; same genetic stature. By the end of week 4 she will be wall-to-wall and 10-11"H. I lateralized branches for when FIM-job grows in. 24" max plant height. Move her out of this 2 x 2 tin can?
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Plant. Other
Techniques. LST
Techniques. HST
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m0useanswered grow question 3 years ago
I'd keep it in that, autos don't like getting moved around to much.
Hydronautstarted grow question 3 years ago
Could I top this FIM from a week ago? I have lateralized all her branches, but feel there is a lot of catching up to do. Branch spread is ideal for this grow space, but comparatively low. Am I really effecting yield, if I am satisficed with the growth in place and take the top?
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Techniques. Topping
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m0useanswered grow question 3 years ago
Normally at this point in a grow I would say no, and use LST. Trying to even it out with the two shoot from that node to give your self another main cola.
but your plant is massive, and looks like its doing very well. I Don't think that little nubbin going missing will do shit to your over all yields. Its a BEAST!
Go for it.
Pinch that little sucker off.
Happy Growing!
Hydronautstarted grow question 3 years ago
My plant grew massively the first 4 weeks, and leaves became jammed regardless of my training techniques. A medium defoliation, turned into a massacre! Growth slowed last two days - almost up to speed again. What will come of a near "Schwazz" in early week 6 (auto), in the end?
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Techniques. Defoliation
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Fruitgroweranswered grow question 3 years ago
That's not necessarily true what organoman said below. As long as the plant is healthy, Taking off some excess foliage and small budsites is good for the plant and the end result. Pulling off dead or dying leaves and lower down leaves actually makes more sugars and nutrients available to the plant and causes a mild stress response which strengthens and send food to the other branches. It should also be mentioned that this should only be done before and after the flowering stretch, avoid during stretch period can stunt growth. 🌱👍
Hydronautstarted grow question 3 years ago
Twice between heavy defoliations the were leaves were so jammed together some leaves would get wet from contact with other leaves. It's the only leaf on the whole plant like this - as of now. Seems like Calmag? Product of sweating? Nute splash? (week 7 photos)
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Leaves. Color - Dark-brown
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m0useanswered grow question 3 years ago
If it's only on one leaf I would not worry to much about it.
It could have been water damage from being wet like you said and then getting burnt from the lights.
Or a splash of the nutrients.
Don't panic if its just one leaf and keep an eye on it.
Don't remove it as well, if it gets much worse on that leaf then it will help us determine what it could be.
Good Luck!
Hydronautstarted grow question 3 years ago
Leaves have faint large spots in the center/top of the plant. Light is 8” from the center of the plant. Almost purplish/gray color. I have a mid grow flush coming up this Saturday. Long flush? Is the light distance to blame, something else?
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Leaves. Other
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m0useanswered grow question 3 years ago
your NPK in GH nutes alone is.
1.3-2.5-4.3
add in the others as well.
silicon 0-0-4
calmeg 1-0-0
koolbloom 0-10-10
floralicious 2-.8-.02
I don't think it needs more potassium, maybe less.
Could try 1ml-1.2ml calmg vs .8ml
excess potassium also looks similar to what your experiencing.
and needing phosphorus also looks like this.
excess potassium locks out calcium as well and this looks like that too.
I'd cut back potassium somewhere maybe armor SI and Kool Bloom / flora grow.
Could as in more micro to boost the lost nitrogen from grow.
Best Of Luck!
Hydronautstarted grow question 3 years ago
This is a note for my previous question. Wanted to pass along my auto feeding schedule is in my germination week if it helps any. Also my Koolbloom ppm wasn’t set to ml/gal so that was looking way off in a number of weeks so I updated that
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Leaves. Other
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m0useanswered grow question 3 years ago
Was wondering what happened to my old answer, its a new question lol.
that photo is small and blurry but I made out most of it.
week 7-9 flower
still looking at NPK of 3.0-4.3-7.43
I still think potassium is on the high side and phosphorus could be a bit higher.
Cheers,
Hydronautstarted grow question 3 years ago
Despite fimming, topping, & numerous HEAVY defoliations (only few days between lashings) into week 6, she's still vivacious. Week 6, I sat her back in the chair. Will she bulk up soon, or is there a Auto "tell-all" on day 50 with final yield? 10-14 week strain. Stretch over.
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Buds. Not fattening
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Ezzjaybruhanswered grow question 3 years ago
It looks good.
Don’t do any more defoliation tho.
Autos are all over the damn place.. some finish in 70, some finish in 120. There’s been weeks difference I’ve seen in the same strain.
Relax, and let it be for a bit, you’re in good shape.
I have noticed some I ran awhile back would have this like period around this time where they just coasted and seemed to not put on any serious weight. It was annoying, personally.
That’s just my experience but give it time man. It’ll be good. Hydro is good at rebounding
Hydronautstarted grow question 3 years ago
Plant exceeded growth expectations. Now the light penetration is not at the desired PPFD half way down this crowded plant. Any reason not to upgrade to a 250 bar light during flower with Autos?
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Setup. Lighting
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Hydronautstarted grow question 3 years ago
Is changing the light cycle of an autoflower from 18/6 to 20/4 in mid flower too stressful? Doing so would bump my DLI enough to keep my existing light through harvest. She sleeps like clockwork but less so now in mid flower. Will she adjust in a couple days to a longer day?
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Setup. Lighting
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Grey_Wolfanswered grow question 3 years ago
@Hydronaut because of its genetics it will hardly miss a beat if you change lighting cycles
just keep in mind the extra heat generated with the extra 2 hours of light if that could be an issue
Hydronautstarted grow question 3 years ago
What is dry weight considered for GD? Any general consensus? Seems subjective and I hate trimming bud and cut off the good stuff and toss larf and not so sexy buds in the trash. It’s usable but I have no need for most of my harvests and tend to grab the high end jewelry and run.
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Other. Other
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Ezzjaybruhanswered grow question 3 years ago
Yeah bro just do what pleases you lol.. I do my weight about 7-10 days after chop that has a decent trim..
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Hydronautcommentedweek 103 years ago
Note to Self #1: Don’t forget to start raising PH starting transition!
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Hydronautcommentedweek 73 years ago
Day 44: She's looking good, and stretching at a rate of 2"/day in her tin can. I did a light defoliation and cleaned up training wires. I'll leave her be from here on out; less some selective defoliation to keep sites open. I cut CO2 (which would have been helpful a bit earlier), and may turn back on at the end of week 8, time will tell.
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Hydronautcommentedweek 53 years ago
She's growing rapidly for sure. I squeezed in 3 defoliation/LST sessions in week 4, and just finish my fourth in week 5. Recovered and moving forward, within hours every time. Getting good light penetration/new shoot growth. Some of her extremities are near 90 degree angles now, with smaller branches racing to the top. Hoping the low branches catch up soon, there quite the growth happening at the FIM location, and she may take off again!
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alchemistcommentedweek 03 years ago
Dude this is real impressive grow room!!can you talk to the plants with the cameras??
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Hydronautcommented3 years ago
Hehe, of course I can! How would one feel if they were locked up in 4 square feet for 12 weeks with no one to talk to! There’s a group call PETA that’s seems to be sweeping the industry. (People for the Ethical Treatment of Autoflowers).
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homerjgangiacommentedweek 03 years ago
Good luck with your grow mate!💪💪
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Hydronautcommented3 years ago
Getting close H. I screwed up a number of things on this run, but still hoping for a HP!
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BUDMAN73commentedweek 03 years ago
very nice 😍 Happy growing
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Hydronautcommented3 years ago
I'm always happy what a plant gives me regardless I what I have done to her!
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Robertscommentedweek 03 years ago
Nice grow system 🌱🤜🤛
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Hydronautcommented3 years ago
Thanks Roberts. It’s not as complicated as it seems!
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Psilocubensiscommentedweek 63 years ago
Great grow! What is the size of the cabin?
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Hydronautcommented3 years ago
It's a coffin. 22" x 22" inside growing footprint - if that. I gotta say, I can't figure this girl out in it though. Can't kill her, let alone train her to fit in the tin can. Wild grow from a defoliation perspective. Maybe all she needs is time, to shine. Fingers crossed!
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m0usecommentedweek 03 years ago
I'm liking the way that stealth grow cabinet is looking!
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Hydronautcommented3 years ago
m0use, you are just plain chill. Such a great grower, resource, and not overly opinionated!
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Psilocubensiscommentedweek 03 years ago
your cabinet is really beautiful !!!!
How about the noise?
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Hydronautcommented3 years ago
46 dB - update 38 dB to be in the 20’s soon.
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Y0inkcommentedweek 03 years ago
When the going gets tough, the tough get going!
Good luck! 👊🏽💪🏽💚
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Godesskatcommentedweek 113 years ago
Good luck with your grow mate!💪💪
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Hydronautcommented3 years ago
Thanks M!
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HAPPYWEEDScommentedweek 113 years ago
Close to the end. Wish you all the best with harvest soon =)
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Hydronautcommented3 years ago
Gotta harvest on March 2 whether I like it or not. Blazing out of town for a bit, yet she looks like she'll be just about there before I cruise!
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cannapassioncommentedweek 73 years ago
Good Luck for the futur 👌💪💪
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Hydronautcommented3 years ago
Yes the future! Next run coming soon!
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Kynarethcommentedweek 63 years ago
good grow buddy
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Hydronautcommented3 years ago
Thanks E. It could be much better, but I let some of the most basic parameters get away from me!
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