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Germination
3 years ago
Accidentally dropped three seeds into the water. Did a direct sow for two seeds, paper towel method for the other seed. Seeds sprouted after about three to five days, the taproot in the paper towel was about two inches after three days, sowed on Friday and it sprouted over the weekend. Doing this all from memory, oops!
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Week 1. Vegetation
3 years ago
2.54 cm
18 hrs
21 °C
6.5
No Smell
70 %
18 °C
19 °C
19 L
60.96 cm
No pics unfortunately! Pic uploaded is an approximation of how we're looking so far. My paper towel germinated seed is a sort of experiment, I have that in a 3 gallon fabric pot. The other two are in 5 gallon fabric pots. Of the two 5 gal, one is clearly ahead and doing the best, the other 5 gal and 3 gal are somewhat similar in size. Been very careful with watering as that was my biggest issue last year gardening outdoors. May have under-watered a bit. Light intensity is at 50%.
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Week 2. Vegetation
3 years ago
2.54 cm
18 hrs
23 °C
6.5
No Smell
70 %
20 °C
19 L
60.96 cm
Will try to update this more frequently so I can review on the next grow. Posting Week 2 one day early for notes, the "true" week 2 is closer to 3/11 - 3/12 I'd say. 3/10/22 - Gave them each about 400ml this morning, the larger plant got roughly 600ml. Trying to get the watering down right, I last watered on 3/6/22 and tried to judge the weight of the bag while also feeling the soil. I also increased the light intensity from 50% to 75% on 3/6/22, not sure if that helped or was just a coincidence. Doing my best to follow Emilya's watering guide. Reading conflicting info about letting the soil dry or not, did not feel bone dry but dry enough to water. They still seem stunted and the 3gal took a hit from the tent door, not sure if that's causing a little bit of drooping in the leaves, will keep an eye on it. I have been almost too vigilant on not over-watering; that was my main issue last year in my vegetable garden. Slow growth could be number of things, my first thoughts were the day time temperatures, but I've seen other successful grows of this strain at around the same I've been at, roughly 70F-71F in the day time. I added the water bucket with aquarium heater last night to help bring up the temperatures, will report on the success or failure of that. So far nothing. I'm thinking the stunting may be the ph of the starter soil mix I used to drop the seeds in, also may have made those divots too big. I'll likely try to start the seeds in peat pods next time, or just make the divot a lot smaller. I may try transplanting one as well and comparing how it does against direct sow. Water ph is right at 6.5 so hoping that helps bring it down until the roots can get into the FFOF. Also discovered last night that the humidity was shooting way up when the lights went out, past 80% when I checked. Likely due to the decreased temps from the light being off and also having my circulating fan shut off. I've moved the circulating fan to always be on and that helped immediately, night humidity is staying between 65% - 70%. I'll be starting to lower the humidity roughly 10% each week now until I hit 40% - 50%. Takeaways from 3/10/22 -Start the journal right away to help inform the next grow. -Weigh the pots with a scale when first filling them and use that to help with watering. I don't have the skillz yet to really judge without a scale. -Try to transplant a seed next time and compare with direct sow. 3/15/22 - Watered them again, may have waited too long between watering. Lots of runoff in the bigger plant; I used 1 gal for that and 800 ml for the other two. Significant runoff (filled the entire plastic tray) from the large plant, reintroduced that back into the pot, still had the same amount of runoff again. I think it just got too dry, but the plants don't seem to be showing any signs of being under-watered. Regardless, will aim to shorten the period between watering to 3 days maximum. Been reading 1 - 1.5 gal is standard for 5 gal pots, so will be aiming for that going forward. At this point, lack of water or lower temps are the likely culprits of the slow growth. The smaller two plants have started to pick up a bit fortunately.
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Week 3. Vegetation
3 years ago
15.24 cm
18 hrs
22 °C
6.5
Weak
60 %
21 °C
19 L
60.96 cm
3/18/22 - Gave them a drink again today, aiming for watering once every 2-3 days, honestly the two smaller plants probably could have been watered yesterday for a 2 day window. Bigger plant was still moist and soil felt good, felt a bit heavy too, might not have been a good idea to water but tried just doing a surface soak. 800ml each except for plant B - gave that 1200 ml. Next watering I'm going to do the full soak for both the smaller plants, roughly 1-1.5 gal each. Aiming to line that up with the next full soak of the bigger plant. Growth seems slow still, but comparing these pics with the last entry shows some decent progress, especially on the larger plant. Hoping they're starting to soak up the nutrients in the soil as I have not used any of the liquid nutrients at this point; just straight water. The little bend on one leaf on plant A was due to it running into the wall, going to need to start spacing these out off the heating pad. Not sure about LST right now; everything I read says to do it so I may try it on one of the smaller plants once they get a few more nodes. My biggest problem continues to be the temperature and keeping that above 70F. The bucket with water heater seems to inch me up a degree or two but it honestly is negligible and is messing with my humidity control. Will likely remove it next week when I need humidity to start doing down below 50%. I want to avoid getting a space heater at all costs but that may be necessary combined with a temperature controller. I could try moving the grow tent upstairs where it gets much warmer, but I'm afraid I'll just have the opposite problem at that point and will struggle with keeping temperatures down. We'll see! The space I'm in right now seems to be the perfect temperature for later stages of the plant, 69-72F. Just going to ride this out and learn as much as I can, looking forward to trying these outside once the weather starts warming up in this area. 3/21/22 - Just a quick update; gave them all a good drink this morning, roughly a gal each. Will likely start introducing nutrients to the water in one or two weeks, but for now they seem like they're starting to pick up. Temperatures are still the biggest issue, have rarely been able to break 74F, and the heated water bucket is impacting the humidity as well; will need to remove that in order to get down to 40-50%.
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Week 4. Vegetation
3 years ago
15.24 cm
18 hrs
22 °C
6.5
Weak
50 %
21 °C
19 L
4 L
60.96 cm
3/25/22 - So far so good, I think the plant that's been doing the best (labeled A in the pics) is entering a pre-flowering stage; I can start to see the little white hairs (pistils?) on some of the nodes. Doing my best to learn the anatomy of the plant and what to look out for as it grows. All plants are a nice beautiful deep green and have really started to grow healthily as far as I can tell, they had a bit of a slow start but should be well on their way to getting nutrients in the soil. Everything I've read about Ocean Forest says feeding isn't necessary for the first 30 days at least, and often you're fine to start nutrients in the flowering stage. I would say we're at about day 28 since they sprouted, so I may begin to introduce nutrients next week. Gave them a full soak again today, just shy of a gallon each, the 3 gal pot gets a little bit less than the other two. I had to remove the water bucket for two reasons; space and humidity. I'm aiming to keep the humidity between 40-50% now. I originally only planned to do two plants, but accidentally dropped a third seed into the water glass, so here we are. Right now I'm still trying to stay laser focused on the watering and not giving them too much. I had originally planned to water them yesterday, but the soil still felt slightly moist, and they've been doing okay with the amount I've been giving them so far. Getting a little bit better at feeling the weight of the pots, but I still plan to weigh the pots next time. I've tried my best to expose the little nodes with leaf tucking, I think it may be too late to try LST at this point, but I'm okay with that. Will definitely try it on the next grow, but I'm not too concerned with diminished yields; I'll be happy if I get to the end of the grow with anything. Plenty of time to learn and experiment with that. Lastly, I've upped the lights from 75% to 100%, will keep a close eye out for any issues that may cause, but I don't anticipate any. My hope is that can bump me up a degree in temperature as well, but otherwise we're still stuck around 72F. 3/28/22 - First problem has hit! Leaves on B are drooping quite significantly, a little bit on C as well. A is looking okay so far. I made the mistake of giving them a bit of water; this was the exact wrong thing to do. My hope is that the issue is from me allowing the humidity to drop too much; saw it was down in the 30s when I checked on the tent today (life been getting in the way this past week so I have neglected the plants a bit). I have the humidity back up and am going to let the plants dry out entirely and try to aerate, will keep checking on them each day to see how they're doing. They are still growing, so I'm hoping I didn't just kill them by adding a bit more water, they each got about 800ml. My hope is that if the worst should come that plant A will survive; it's still doing the best by far and had little to no drooping. I think I unfortunately just over-watered last time and allowed the humidity to drop too low. Will keep checking and see where we're at.
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Week 5. Flowering
3 years ago
15.24 cm
18 hrs
24 °C
6.5
Weak
50 %
22 °C
19 L
4 L
60.96 cm
Nutrients 2
Big Bloom - Fox Farm
Big Bloom 0.651 mll
Tiger Bloom - Fox Farm
Tiger Bloom 0.651 mll
4/1/22 - Two of the plants are still impacted by the over-watering unfortunately, the 3 gal plant still has significantly drooping leaves, though the color is still a beautiful deep green. One of the 5 gal plants is also drooping a bit and the lower leaves are yellowing pretty badly. I'm attempting to save them both by letting the soil dry out and getting oxygen down to the roots, to that end I've tried to poke holes very gently all the way to the bottom, though I'm not confident this will work. The other 5 gal plant which has been the strongest from the beginning seemed to survive the water and does not have nearly as much drooping as the other two. I am starting to see some yellow spots on the leaves but nothing that looks too bad, will continue to monitor that. If any of these plants survive to harvest it will definitely be this one, so I will do what I can to keep this one alive and healthy. To that end, I did water this plant as it has been since Monday since it last got a drink; gave it a full gallon with a quarter of the recommended bloom nutrients. Hoping I didn't introduce those too early, but if so I'll at least be informed for the next grow. Main takeaway is that over-watering is insane, I made one mistake after being extremely careful and may lose two plants because of that. Just need to stay on top of it next time; they were doing well with 400-800ml. I've labeled this the flowering stage since I'm pretty sure the 5 gal plant that is doing well has more or less entered this phase, seeing the pistils poking up and out from the nodes. Temperatures are doing much better, though this may be because I've been raising the probe with the canopy as it grows. Currently registering 76F. I've also added a second fan to the interior to help circulate air inside the tent. Will continue to monitor and try to save the two plants that are struggling. Not sure if I should try watering them if they don't pick up, the soil is quite dry in the 3gal plant, so I'll try to make that decision this weekend. 4/4/22 - Just a quick update, the 3 gal plant is unlikely to survive, the condition has worsened and I'm not sure it'll recover. I gave it just a slight amount of water since the soil is bone dry at this point, just enough for a bit of runoff at the bottom. I'll likely have to compost it later this week. The other 5gal plant that struggled seems to be doing okay, though some bottom leaves are yellow and shriveled. I snipped the lowest and most dead looking ones to try and clean it up, will continue to monitor but hopefully can salvage that one. The other plant is doing fine, some yellowing on the bottom leaves but I've read that is normal. I'm going to hold off on watering out of an abundance of caution; it just got a gallon on Friday so I'll give it about 800ml tomorrow morning, then ideally another gallon on Friday/Saturday. Will give the other 5gal 400-800ml depending on how it's doing. 4/5/22 - Watered the 5gal that's doing well 1200ml, the 5gal that's struggling 800ml, and the 3gal 400ml. Honestly the 3gal is starting to perk back up, might be salvageable after all. The one 5gal is struggling and looking weak, hoping this watering will do the trick. If they both are doing well I'll introduce nutrients on Friday. Removed some more dead and yellow leaves from those two plants, the 5gal that's doing well still has some yellowing leaves on the bottom but otherwise looking good. 4/7/22 - 5 gal that's been doing well is in trouble unfortunately, bottom leaves are yellowing and developing brown spots, starting to curl, and these effects are making their way up the plant. From what I've read this appears to be both a Nitrogen and Magnesium deficiency, perhaps nutrient lockout as well due to ph imbalance? I've read that upping the ph a bit when in the flowering stage may be helpful since Ocean Forest is a bit low. I want to apply treatment but am afraid of over-watering at this point. I have no choice but to wait until tomorrow morning, where I plan to give it a bit higher ph water, around 6.8, along with N and Mag (either via Epsom salts or the CalMag formula I ordered). Oddly enough the 3gal plant is looking good, though it's been stunted I believe and hasn't quite hit flowering stage. The other 5 gal plant is in trouble and in flowering. Both are starting to exhibit the yellowing as well. The 5gal is drooping quite a bit and is in trouble, will just try to provide the same treatment to both these plants as my solid plant, with just a bit less water. Will have pictures uploaded tomorrow to review. Hard to say where things went wrong, the one 5gal plant has always been solid throughout the grow and is only now starting to show signs of serious trouble. My hope is that the diagnosis is correct and the treatment I apply will bring it back. If not, I'll at least be able to rule those issues out for the next grow. Been lots of ups and downs! Not sure if I can expect to have a harvest at all this time around, but I'm hopefully gathering good info and will be able to do better next time. I'll be starting some outdoor plants in the next month or so as the vegetable garden gets up and running for the season. Unrelated but happy news; I'm starting to see garlic shoots come out from where they were planted last October, very exciting :)
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Week 6. Flowering
3 years ago
15.24 cm
18 hrs
24 °C
6.5
Weak
40 %
22 °C
19 L
4 L
60.96 cm
Nutrients 4
Epsom Salt 1.302 mll
Big Bloom - Fox Farm
Big Bloom 3.906 mll
Tiger Bloom - Fox Farm
Tiger Bloom 0.651 mll
4/8/22 - Watered as follows (I really should have labelled these): 5gal that's struggling; 800ml, 3gal; 800ml, 5 gal that's okay; 2000ml. Nutrients are above, hoping the Epsom salt helps with the issues on the 5gal plant that has been doing okay up until now. Introduced the Grow Big this time around to get some more Nitrogen in there, so we'll see how they're doing tomorrow. Leaves are starting to curl on the 5gal so perhaps I've been under-watering it, will examine and see how it responds. The 3 gal is drooping again, but in the past after it gets a watering it seems to perk back up, lol I have no idea, the leaves on that one are still the best looking in terms of color, but it's been stunted quite a bit so we'll see what happens. Still seems to not be in the flowering stage. Overall it seems like things started to go wrong once I hit flowering. Will see how they respond to the feed today and make a plan for next time. Maybe introduce the nutrients a week earlier at the low doses I'm at right now. If the plants respond well then I plan to up the nutrients to half strength (currently doing quarter strength) next week. Evening update - Did some more reading, may just be general nutrient deficiency overall, maybe should introduce nutrients at week 4. I'll try one plant in coir and one in soil next time...maybe....lotta maybes...also apparently normal for the plant to turn light green during flowering! Took a peek earlier and the 3 gal has perked back up, just needed some water! 4/11/22 - Trimmed some of the completely dead leaves that had curled up and were crispy on each plant, hopefully helps it a bit. Runoff ph was 6.7 so a little high, might be due to me purposely raising the ph when watering that time, but I don't think so. Will lower ph with next watering. To that point, the smaller 5gal and the 3gal felt quite dry pretty deep, so I may water them tomorrow as well. Absolutely do not want to over-water these, so will wait a day. The 5gal that's doing well is very moist and cool (soil) so no need to water. Also checked the PPM in my tap water, mid 100s so not an issue I believe. That being said I should just go back to the filtered water since I now have CalMag if needed. Will check on the plants tomorrow to see how they responded to being cleaned up and also after getting some nutrients. Will water the two with just normal water, ph 6.3ish. 4/12/22 - Gave the 5 gal that's struggling 1200ml, the 3gal 800ml. 3gal was starting to droop a bit, the usual sign it needs a watering, dry soil confirms it. 5gal that's been doing well still showing signs of the issues described above, yellowing still climbing up the plant, hoping these nutrients are able to get into it and reverse course. The water I fed them today had a ph of 6.3. No water for the 5gal that's been doing well; soil is still cool and moist. Do want to try and introduce lower ph water to that one as soon as possible but can't over-water. ph in runoff was 6.7-6.8, so maybe try ph of 5 next time... 4/14/22 - We'll see tomorrow....we're in some trouble here people. Two things....ph very important, keep an eye on it at all times, measure runoff every time...may have been out of sync...? But also, start nutrients when pre-flower starts....that's where everything started to go wrong. And watch the watering.... All three were in dire situations today, under-watered perhaps, starting to look sickly. Immediately watered (I'll move this update to tomorrow with after pics...) Details to come...ph in runoff was 5.9
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rividium
rividiumstarted grow question 3 years ago
Help diagnosing: I believe it's a Magnesium and Nitrogen deficiency. Symptoms include a yellowing of leaves that's starting from the bottom of the plant and working upwards with brown spots, leaves are curling a bit now as well. Top leaves are a light green instead of deep green.
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Leaves. Curl up
Leaves. Color - Yellow
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m0useanswered grow question 3 years ago
You will want to pick up a TDS pen to measure your EC of the feeding solution. If the EC is to high it affects the plant in a negative way. Autos are especially sensitive to this as well. growdiaries.com/journal/what-is-electric-conductivity-ec-and-total-dissolved-solids-tds good little read explaining the EC, some GD articles are bad this one is descent. https://www.autoflower.net/forums/threads/med-man-method-feeding-chart-ppm-ec.47856/ Good reference point for most auto growers. Still need to monitor the plant and look for signs of excess or deficient signs. It only works on total concentration not what its concentrated with. eg the ratios of grow + bloom + boosters/supplements Once you have this tool it will help you grow better. It is almost always a needed tool when using liquid nutrients unless you have used a product line for years and know what it does off by heart. Good Luck!
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Week 7. Flowering
3 years ago
60.96 cm
18 hrs
24 °C
6.5
Weak
40 %
22 °C
19 L
4 L
35.56 cm
Nutrients 4
Epsom Salt 1.302 mll
Big Bloom - Fox Farm
Big Bloom 7.812 mll
Tiger Bloom - Fox Farm
Tiger Bloom 1.953 mll
4/15/22 - Watered last night because they seemed to be in trouble. The two struggling plants have perked up and are looking somewhat better, though I don't know if the 3gal will get anywhere; it's still in the vegetative stage from what I can see. Watering was as follows: (From left to right in the tent) A - 1200ml B - 800ml C - 1600ml ph of water was 5.75 Runoff measured in at ph of 5.9, so may have gone too far with that. I don't understand how it got so low however, as the last time I measured the runoff the ph was at like 6.75. So I'm just all out of sync here, plants are struggling and not looking well. Will see what happens but I'm not sure. As I wrote, the key takeaway here seems to be when they hit that week 4/5 and enter pre-flowering I need to start the nutrients and I need to have the ph exact. I think that ultimately is the problem; low nutrients and/or ph lockout. 4/17/22 - Watered just a little bit today. Gave 800ml to the two 5gals, 600ml to the 3gal. 6.3ph, just water. The 5gal that's had been doing well has lost a ton of leaves, not sure how well it will grow now. New leaves are forming but it's now lacking any huge fan leaves it used to have. May be under-watering, I dunno. Just a lot of dead shriveled up leaves, they fell right off when I lightly applied pressure to them. Still a pretty light green color, I suppose just nutrient and water deficiency at this point. I've got the humidity jumping around a bit too, from mid 30s to mid 40s. May be worth investing in a controller for that next time. Just continuing on until they die or stop growing entirely, said it before but at this point I'm just riding it out to inform my next grow. Stay on top of ph, start nutrients around week 4, and be careful with watering. I think I'll do one in coco coir and one in soil. 4/20/22 - Gave 600ml to the 3gal again, will likely do a full water either tomorrow or Friday, depends on how they feel. I think they've responded well to the nutrients and some pruning of dead leaves, we'll keep an eye on it but early indicators seem to suggest the nitrogen and magnesium deficiency was indeed the issue.
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Week 8. Flowering
3 years ago
60.96 cm
18 hrs
24 °C
6.5
Weak
40 %
22 °C
19 L
4 L
35.56 cm
Nutrients 4
Epsom Salt 1.302 mll
Big Bloom - Fox Farm
Big Bloom 7.812 mll
Tiger Bloom - Fox Farm
Tiger Bloom 1.953 mll
4/21/22 - The two 5gals needed to be watered today, will again refer to them left to right as A, B, C. A - 1600ml B - 400ml C - 1600ml ph was 6.3, measured the runoff at 6.1 on A and 6.3 on C, so we should be good to bump ph back up to 6.5 moving forward. A was clearly in need of water, was drooping pretty badly. After watering and coming back to measure runoff it was visibly improved already. I'm seeing some crispy leaf tips on both 5gals, I believe that's an overload on nitrogen. Hoping they do okay after today's feeding, I plan to cut the Big Bloom in half next week, but will do some more reading on if I should skip that entirely moving forward. I think you're supposed to cut out nitrogen feeding entirely in late-flower so the plant can focus on buds, but the nitrogen deficiency from earlier needed to be addressed imo! Honestly was pretty surprised and pleased when I checked on them and they seemed to be responding well to the Epsom salts and nitrogen. The crisp tips are a cause for concern but will just continue to monitor. My biggest worry now is the fact that both 5gals have lost a significant amount of foliage; virtually all of the big fan leaves are gone now. Will do some reading up on that as well. They're all very light green too, again not entirely sure if that's supposed to happen in flowering. I've seen some pics of the same strain looking a lush dark green during flowering, so I don't think so... Lastly, seeing some of the stigmas turning amber, that's cool. Can also see the trichomes when zooming on the pics. Nice. 4/23/22 - Just a quick water on the 3gal, starting to droop so gave it a clean 800ml. Other two are fine and still moist. 4/26/22 - Did some watering, should have watered the 3gal yesterday, its in quite bad shape--worst I've seen for it. The stems are bent over and the leaves look very sickly, it hopefully just needs a boost from this water and it will spring back. That being said, it's still in pre-flower and at this point I don't know if it will ever move out of that stage, poor thing is just stunted. I'll keep at it of course but I plan to use the tent for drying out anything I'm able to harvest from the other two, so I may need to relocate it or compost it after a bit. Watered as follows: A - 1200ml B - 800ml C - 1200ml Straight water with a ph of about 6.3. Based on some comments I got earlier it may be time to just flush with straight water from here on out, we may be in the final weeks. If I do feed them at all I'll probably do strictly budding nutrients, but honestly it sounds like I should just do water at this point. All new leaf growth is looking good, still light green but not sickly yellow. I've trimmed those off so just have some smaller leaves growing in. Otherwise the two 5gals are looking pretty good, I can definitely see the benefits of LST and will for sure do that on the next grow. - Quick update a few hours later, little 3gal has perked back up, standing straight and leaves looking much better :) Just needed some water the poor girl
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rividium
rividiumstarted grow question 3 years ago
Help diagnosing very light green/yellow leaves. Nitrogen or CalMag issue? Grow Diary has more detail if needed!
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Leaves. Color - Yellow
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Kolibrianswered grow question 3 years ago
Ich würde empfehlen den PH-Wert bei dieser Pflanze auf 6 - 6,2 zu senken, dann wird Stickstoff besser resorbiert. Etwas Zuckerrübenmelasse im Gießwasser 1:1000 dürfte auch nicht schaden, da es das Bodenleben aktiviert/füttert. Ansonsten sieht die Pflanze gesund aus, jetzt in der Blüte verwendet sie die Blätter als Reserven und pumpt alles in die Blüten. Viel Glück!
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Week 9. Flowering
3 years ago
91.44 cm
18 hrs
25 °C
6.5
Weak
40 %
24 °C
19 L
4 L
35.56 cm
Nutrients 3
Big Bloom - Fox Farm
Big Bloom 7.812 mll
Tiger Bloom - Fox Farm
Tiger Bloom 1.953 mll
Cal-Mag Plus  - Botanicare
Cal-Mag Plus 0.651 mll
4/29/22 - Standard update, not too much to report, just the same situation we've been in for the past few weeks now. 3gal goes up and down, might be entering pre-flowering stage or at least trying to, honestly I don't know why that hasn't happened. I find I have to come in and water it frequently, so I gave it 400ml yesterday and now 800ml today. We'll see. Watered as follows (left to right): A - 1200ml B - 800ml C - 1600ml ph 6.6 The yellow leaves come right off plant C, however they do not come off easily on plant A. I try to be as gentle as I can; I originally would snip them off but now I just wait until they fall right off with just slight pressure. Buds look pretty good honestly! Plan is from here on out to flush the plants when watering, I think they've gotten enough nutrients by this point. I've cut out the grow big and just fed them straight budding nutrients, so hopefully that gives them a little boost before the flush. A little concerned about over-watering this time but they've been pretty hardy, will keep an eye on it. I've been watering for the most part every 3-4 days for the two 5gals. Not much else to consider, hoping on the next grow I can keep these yellow leaves under control. Will be starting some seeds soon for the outdoor grow, plan on putting together the new garden beds this weekend. Will likely just do two plants for outdoors. 5/2/22 - Just a quick note that I watered the 3gal a quick 400ml, 6.5 ph. Will probably water the other two plants tomorrow, otherwise they're still good from the last watering. Just straight water from here on out. 5/3/22 - 1600ml each to the 5gals, 6.5 ph. Snuck a quick 400ml in the 3gal too; it's showing the huge fan leaves at the bottom slowly yellowing from the outside in, bottom to top. Not sure what to make of it, hard to imagine its a nutrient deficiency, could be the plant is just well along and starting to expire...May have waited a bit to water, they honestly could have been watered yesterday, but they should be fine with watering today.
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Week 10. Flowering
3 years ago
91.44 cm
18 hrs
25 °C
6.5
Weak
40 %
19 °C
19 L
4 L
35.56 cm
5/6/22 - Watered with just straight filtered water, ph 6.4. 1200ml for the 5gals and 800ml for the 3gal. 3gal plant is finished, don't think it's going to progress. I anticipate composting it once I need to use the tent for drying. Will just continue to water it for now. Will be keeping an eye out for amber trichomes, my understanding is once I see about 30-40% of them turn that color its time to harvest, so hopefully that happens in the next two weeks or so. Not much else to report, I removed a ton of small/yellow/dead leaves so hopefully that cleans things up a bit and helps with the bud development, they seem to be fattening up. Plan is to just keep watering with straight water every 3-4 days, they seem to be doing well on Tuesday and Friday watering dates, but I adjust as necessary. Pots were still a little heavier today so I just did 1200ml. 5/10/22 - Standard watering of 1200ml, 800ml, 1200ml. Removed a few yellow leaves but not much. One thing I've noticed is the smell is not very pleasantly overpowering, there's just a slight plant smell to them, not sure if that's just due to a few mistakes I made along the way. Hoping it won't impact the end product! Still maintaining and waiting to see amber trichomes before ending the operation, tried looking close with a jewelers loupe but that thing gives me a headache...I dunno they seem cloudy, no amber just yet.
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Week 11. Flowering
3 years ago
91.44 cm
18 hrs
25 °C
6.5
Normal
40 %
19 °C
19 L
4 L
35.56 cm
5/13/22 - Biggest thing I noticed was a slightly stronger smell, that's kinda cool. Otherwise just business as usual. Watered 1200ml for the 5gals, 800ml for the 3gal. Still just 6.5 ph filtered water. I have to imagine we're getting close to harvest, still on the lookout for amber trichomes but none that I can see so far. This jewlers loupe mmm dunno if I'm using it wrong but hard to get a super detailed look. May post a question and get some help from others. Getting to be about time to try this outdoors, we're having consistent 80 degree weather in May so you know, we'll see. Not much else to report or take note on, defoliated yellow/dead leaves as normal. Not sure what to make of these crispy looking leaves, I've been on straight water for at least two weeks now. Got some good answers on my question, may have started the flush too early! We'll have to see, perhaps I can introduce some bloom nutrients next time I water. 5/17/22 - Watered today, standard 1200ml/800ml, nothing to report. New leaf growth looking nice and lush green, very healthy looking. Just removed the yellow leaves from the 5gals, 3gal I'm not sure why I'm keeping it around, should just get rid of it at this point. I will remove it when drying. Just keeping an eye on how it looks now and waiting until it's time to dry.
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rividiumstarted grow question 3 years ago
Trying to get a sense of when to start the harvest, I've read like 30-40% amber but also just when all the trichomes are cloudy, could use some assistance. Thank you! Grow diary week 11 has more pics for reference.
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TriangleBotanistProjectanswered grow question 3 years ago
Yoo! I saved that picture and zoomed in. Not seeing much clear trikes and very few amber. Its up to you now. Experiment with it. If you want a larger level of body stone (higher CBN) which not many folks like because it makes you pass out cold sleepy instead of stimulating the mind then wait for more amber. Wait for that golden hue on the bud. Otherwise if you want peak thc potency just look for max clear trikes. I like to wait until its noticeable in an iphone picture that 15-20% of the trikes are amber.
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Week 12. Flowering
3 years ago
91.44 cm
18 hrs
25 °C
6.5
Strong
40 %
19 °C
19 L
4 L
35.56 cm
5/20/22 - Watered, you know the drill, 1200ml/800ml. What I've noticed is the humidity is creeping up as of late, I guess because of the outdoor conditions. I'll likely need a dehumidifier ASAP. Regardless, we're looking to be in the last week here, I think the one 5gal is a bit ahead of the other because the little trichomes look a bit cloudier, but the plan for that is to look for just a bit of amber on that 5gal then pull. Hoping I don't mess up the harvest! But it's been an interesting run, lots of ups and downs, learned a little bit and can hopefully apply those lessons on the next grow. 5/24/22 - Same watering, just popping in to check on them. Have to say the smell is quite strong now and just a nice toasty scent, very happy with that. Buds are looking real frosty too, and one of the 5gals is getting a pretty cool purple tinge to it. My plan is still to wait until I can see just a few amber trichomes on the one 5gal and then we'll be ready to start drying; I think that will put me in a good place. I definitely should have started the flush later, probably a week or two ago, but that's okay, they're doing well and developing well enough. This diary will be useful to reference on the next grow. I'm being ugh super lazy about building the new outdoor garden bed, though I do have space in my existing beds to start some outdoors...We're in a bit of a cold spell this week, so I may just germinate some seeds and plant one or two outside this weekend. Stay tuned!
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rividiumstarted grow question 3 years ago
Don't seem to be seeing amber trichomes yet, best practice to just stay the course until I can see some and then harvest? Majority of the pistils are orange and trichomes all seem to be pretty cloudy. Just looking to the community for some advice, don't want to harvest too early!
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Other. Harvest - Drying
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Hashyanswered grow question 3 years ago
Not all strains produce amber trichomes. If your 100% cloudy and all the pistils have browned then it's ready. If not continue until they are. I harvested an auto northern lights about a week ago and that went 94 days before I chopped but would have benefitted another week really.
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Week 13. Flowering
3 years ago
91.44 cm
18 hrs
25 °C
6.5
Strong
40 %
19 °C
19 L
4 L
35.56 cm
5/28/22 - Thanks to all who answered my questions. I'm going to wait one more week and then harvest. I think some of the early stunting has delayed the growth, so a bit of extra time shouldn't hurt. I've finally just composted the 3gal plant, I think it was too traumatized from the lack of water way back and just never recovered. Did 1600ml to both remaining plants. Read that it might help to shut the lights off 48 hours before harvesting...I'll give that a try! Any boost I can get will help. Next grow should turn out better! Last grasp of insight; I definitely stopped nutrients too soon, just another note for next time. 6/1/22 - Did the final flush today, 1600ml each of cooler water, plan is to shut the lights off on Friday and then trim on Sunday, hang them up to dry. Plants have that nice toasty smell and look very nice; trichomes all over and the smaller plant has that cool purple look to it.
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Week 13. Harvest
3 years ago
Happy Harvest Day!
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I'll update the rating as I go along the final process here, but comments so far is that it smelled really nice and toasty and produced some very nice looking flower.
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Spent 93 days
Ger Veg Flo Har
233 g
Bud wet weight per plant
97.5 g
Bud dry weight per plant
2
Plants
0.74
Grow Room size
Normal
Difficulty
Positive effects
Happy, Relaxed
Positive effects
Taste
Flowery, Fruity, Herbs
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It's been a journey, overall I think this was a very forgiving strain. I made a few mistakes along the way but we made it, currently drying and will expect to start curing in roughly two weeks. I'll continue to update until that process is finished. I think on the next indoor grow I'll be able to apply some of what I've learned from this to increase the yield. Either way I'm glad I made it to the end! 191g from the smaller of the two 275g from the larger of the two 6/10/22 - So on day two of drying I noticed the dreaded hay smell starting, I had never heard anything about this until I started searching for it specifically, apparently it's a common problem! I made some adjustments to the environment and after checking the dehumidifier today I noticed the hay smell was gone and the delicious smell was back, so we seem to be on track here. For future grows: Only have one fan inside the tent blowing, circulating air below, aimed away from the buds. Dehumidifier near the back and aimed away from the buds. Humidity levels set to 50% on the dehumidifier Tent fan settings changed to 62-72F, 45-55% RH. Checking dehumidifier water tank every other day, at this point probably not necessary to check that often but it's fine. Will set up the hose next time. Lastly, apparently dry trimming is preferred? Everything I read said wet trimming is best, but once I started researching the hay smell it was near unanimous to dry trim. I'll try that next time. Aiming for Wednesday to start curing, but will keep an eye out. 6/15/22 - Took them down and have them curing, honestly with the drying process I've found that all the info available isn't quite accurate, and I don't get true information until I have to search specifically on the problem I'm having. In this case, they likely could have been placed in jars over the weekend. Currently registering 51% RH in the jars. This is below the required 55% and from what I can tell is very low for the start of this process. Now I did just jar them up, so I'll check the RH in about an hour to see if it changes. If not, I'll try putting a live plant leaf in each jar to try and bring up the humidity just a bit. Weighed the whole batch in at 95g, just around what I was expecting. Pretty cool! Notes for next time (adjusting the above stats) Humidity levels set to 55% on the dehumidifier Tent fan settings changed to 62-72F, 50-60% RH. These may get me within the 7-10 window, with what I did this time I probably should have put them in jars after 5-7 days. I read that you should NOT wait for the stem to snap, let it have a bit of give. You can somewhat squeeze the buds too, go for a spongy/fluffy feel? Pull them when they feel just slightly crisp on the outside. 6/19/22 - Mmm maybe disregard, we're sitting around 61%-67% across the jars. Popping them open for 15 minutes twice a day, shaking and moving them around. I had originally placed leaves from an indoor plant in the jars to bring up RH, but that is no longer necessary (might not have been at all!). Will likely switch to once per day after a week or two.
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Fast_Buds
Fast_Budscommentedweek 23 years ago
Hey! Thank you so much for running this diary, Looking forward to your flourish! Happy Growing & Good luck ☘️
Fast_Buds
Fast_Budscommented3 years ago
@@rividium, Our pleasure 😎 Keep it up 💪 We're looking forward to your updates!!
rividium
rividiumcommented3 years ago
@Fast_Buds, Appreciate it, thanks for the seeds and knowledge! I'm looking forward to starting a few outside as well once the weather warms up here.
Tropicannibis_Todd
Tropicannibis_Toddcommentedweek 13 years ago
Happy Growing there growmie , great choice, I've just finished up my run of NL and the bag appeal is awesome, GL👍
rividium
rividiumcommented3 years ago
@Tropicannibis_Todd, appreciate it, thanks! I took a look at your NL and wow, very impressive. I'm afraid mine are stunted a bit so I'm just adjusting the environment and tweaking what I can. Treating this as a learning experience and will try to improve as time goes on. Take care.
Kolibri
Kolibricommentedweek 83 years ago
Schöne Pflanzen, aber noch weit entfernt von der Ernte! Wenn Du jetzt bzw. in nächster Zeit erntest, verschenkst Du viel Potenzial. Ich schätze die Pflanze benötigt noch 3-6 Wochen bis sie erntereif ist, also hab Geduld und erfreu Dich an einer ordentlichen Ernte! Viel Glück!
Kynareth
Kynarethcommentedweek 13 years ago
nice grow mate
love_2_grow
love_2_growcommentedweek 13 years ago
Happy Growing, Buddy! 🌱🌱🌱
LegacyMarketFarm
LegacyMarketFarmcommentedweek 33 years ago
Hey there nice looking little ladies! One bit of advice if it is okay, Cannabis plants love heat and humidity. The buds HATE it, Your temps are a little on the low side we generally want 79-84 MAX and no more than 9 degrees less with lights off. Too much of a swing in temperature will cause them too stretch we want to keep it at no more than 9 degrees less. We can utilize humidity to speed our plants along as well in veg for much more vigorous growth. To have a better understanding of how humidity plays a role in growing your plants check out this article on VPD, Vapor pressure deficit. This is the one I use to help new growers learn about it and use the chart they provide here on this article as well. https://cerescann.com/importance-of-measuring-vpd/ If you have not done so yet get yourself a thermal laser temp gun like the fluke 64 MAX and a PAR meter to better help read your plants needs and grow to them. This equipment will also help us dial in our plant top temps and set our lights to their optimal distance from the plants. We want to put our lights on pullys like the sun grip light pullys to adjust them better. If you ever have any questions please feel free to follow my profile & DM me anytime! If you would like to see how these methods impact plant growth very importantly early on check out our USA rep LegacyMarketFarmUSA and follow him as well!
rividium
rividiumcommented3 years ago
@LegacyMarketFarm, Looking forward to it, I'll definitely check that out! Very much appreciate your expertise and any insight you have on the tent setup.
LegacyMarketFarm
LegacyMarketFarmcommented3 years ago
@@rividium, Good question! I will find out when I begin my tent tutorial series, I am a retired legacy market commercial grower now making a company of my own. We are starting out with a tutorial series aimed at tent growers so this will be a learning experience for me using a tent for the first time!
rividium
rividiumcommented3 years ago
@LegacyMarketFarm, I have not tried that yet but will give it a shot. My light is LED so it doesn't get too hot but it definitely bumps the temperature up a few degrees. I struggle to break that 73F barrier regardless. Do you think its easier to heat or cool a tent? Depending on which I can move the tent upstairs into a warmer area, just concerned about it getting too hot in that case.
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Fast_Buds
Fast_Budscommentedweek 133 years ago
Nice job growmie, thanks a bunch for running this diary! We really hope that you had a nice time growing our Northern Lights Enjoy the harvest :)
rividium
rividiumcommented3 years ago
@Fast_Buds, Hey, thanks!
Smokwiri
Smokwiricommentedweek 113 years ago
I'm browsing diaries today and visited yours, i just love to see a lot of ganjas my friend, keep up the good work👌💪
rividium
rividiumcommented3 years ago
@Smokwiri, Appreciate it man!
CroNicGman
CroNicGmancommentedweek 93 years ago
If you need advise with your yellow leave it may be the water quality , allowing the water you use to distille properly and minimize the nutrients + worm castings are amazing to mix in and also use on top soil, hope this helps you a bit , but try removing a few old decaying lower yellow leaves and see how the plant responds- check out my purple urkle if you got time dude , ☮️
rividium
rividiumcommented3 years ago
@CroNiCGman, Hey thanks man, that definitely could be causing some issues. I've mostly been using tap water and letting sit for about 24 hours before using. I just used filtered water today, so maybe I'll be able to notice any improvements from that. I'll jump in there and snip the dying leaves in just a bit, been trying to stay on top of that. I checked out your purple urkle and wow looks absolutely amazing. That's what I'm trying to go for; the deep healthy green leaves during the flowering stage. Once I hit that after about 4 weeks I started to get the yellowing issue. Appreciate your comment, thanks!
DaGrowQueen
DaGrowQueencommentedweek 133 years ago
😍 Love the color
BSG420
BSG420commentedweek 123 years ago
Lovely fade coming 🙃 Grow Well an Stay Frosty 😶‍🌫️
Smokwiri
Smokwiricommentedweek 113 years ago
I'm browsing diaries today and visited yours, i just love to see a lot of ganjas my friend, keep up the good work👌💪
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