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Teh_Saccade Teh_Saccade
2 years ago
I'm concerned about Snow... She doesn't look so good, but so long as she is growing - I guess it's fine. The seed shell was stuck to her when she was popping up last week, and it ended up hanging off the side. I nipped it off, but the stem seems to have gotten stuck to it and where the shell was hanging is an ugly brown scar with some shriveled skin. In addition, one side appears a little gimpy. The cotyledon leaves there are small and twisted. The seed leaves have also come through a little malformed, with the same side being gimped and I am trying not to look too closely at what appears to be some yellowing around the edges. The soil is quite wet, but has drained well - I'm wondering if the yellowing may be from too much water, since I was dripping it onto the shell of the seed that was stuck every few hours. I'll let it dry out a fair deal before doing anything else. I'll also put her in a prime spot for sun and warmth over the next few days. I've also started to put her and Happy (the Dwarf auto) under some lights to keep a 20hr schedule going. Trying not to think about it, but keeping a journal means thinking about it..! Being a few days behind the others (well... other... those dwarfs didn't germinate), I'm not concerned about the relative growth being a little stunted at this stage. Not as much as I am about the deformation, but I've seen worse in my other plants who have recovered and gone on to be lovely bushes. The hawaiian woodroses this year are streaking up, and these are usually quite difficult to get going. The p.viridis and p.harmala are also popping up and these guys do not like the climate here at all. Anyhow. We'll see how she does over the next week, and I'm sending her good vibes and positive thoughts so that she can recover from a traumatic birth and grow into a fine lady. // The prayer seems to be working, as today she is standing very tall and proud, and the scar on the stem is looking better. Her leaves are still a little wonky, but hopefully that won't be some congenital defect and persist further than these leaves. I'm guessing that they are like this due to being squashed up by the shell to start. // Well, even though she didn't seem to need it (yet), I've gone ahead and removed her from the fibre cup and exchanged all the soil for new stuff - the old stuff is a bit damp so I'm gonna have to really be light on the water with these guys til it heats up. I'd watered her once since shooting up, and the moisture was held still in the cup like soggy cardboard. Those cups are great for greenhouse and outdoors, but for indoors I think they might require seedlings that are already on the way and caution must be used when using them for sprouting. Hopefully she'll be fine tomorrow - I've put her under some lights, just to be safe.
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Teh_Saccade
Teh_Saccadestarted grow question 2 years ago
Hey guys - this little girl is clinging onto her shell. I've wet it a few times, and it has been 24hrs - it's not moving. She brought it out the soil with her, and is developing nicely otherwise. Should I remove it early (like now) or wait to see if the she pushes it off?
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Chow_13
Chow_13answered grow question 2 years ago
Always wait for it to fall off. It is way to easy to damage the seed leaves since they can stick to the inside of the shell and tear when you remove it. I will usually take a syringe and put a drop of water over the shell to keep it soft and so the inner membrane does not dry out and stick. Eventually they should break free. I had a similar but worse issue with this grow. See germination/week1 growdiaries.com/diaries/126912-grow-journal-by-chow-13/week/673135
Teh_Saccade
Teh_Saccadestarted grow question 2 years ago
Have any of you guys ever taken cuttings/clones from autos? This is my first time with ruderalis cross, and I am reading that I shouldn't even top the plants as they will likely start to flower as they reach 5-8 nodes. Will the plant be super stunted after a clip..?
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Organoman
Organomananswered grow question 2 years ago
Doesn't work, its that auto flowering gene that prevents it from being successful. By the time roots form, the plant will be wanting to flower, not continue veg growth, making cuttings/clones pointless. In my experience, autos do best if left intact and when not topped.
Teh_Saccade
Teh_Saccadestarted grow question 2 years ago
I was wondering... This White Widow auto is bred from Critical x Ruderalis to have Critical Auto ~ 35-50% Ruderalis. Crit. Auto is bred again to WW S1 Auto (~20-25% Ruderalis). If bred again, you think enough Ruderalis (~10%) for it to still be classed as automatic? Thanks! :D
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Kolibri
Kolibrianswered grow question 2 years ago
Es geht nicht um den prozentualen Anteil in der Genetik. Es gibt auch reine Ruderalis- Pflanzen die photoperiodisch aktiviert werden müssen. Du musst bei Deinen Kreuzungen, wenn Du denn Automatics züchten möchtest, eben auf diese Eigenschaften hin selektieren. Also bei den Nachkommen bestimmen welche unabhängig vom Lichtzyklus blühen und diese Eigenschaft stabilisieren. Es gibt stabile Automatics die weniger als 2% Ruderalisgenetik enthalten... Viel Glück!
Teh_Saccade
Teh_Saccadestarted grow question 2 years ago
Auto experts! I have been keeping this one very low & it is producing many shoots with pistils. I'd like to remove some fan leaves, but Idk if this is a good idea, since it is flowering after only a month..! Do you think it would be ok to do this for more light..? Thanks! :D
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Hashy
Hashyanswered grow question 2 years ago
1st try tucking the leaves behind to expose more flower sites. I wouldn't really defoliate her until she really kicks into gear and explodes in growth.
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love_2_grow
love_2_growweek 5
I grow the exact same strain as you but am a few weeks further along. I have done some slight defoliation without any problems. That being said, I don't think you need to worry about that yet as your girl is still rather small. Leaf tucking should be all you need at this point.
love_2_grow
love_2_grow
@The_Saccade, Good luck with your grow and harvest. I'm VERY happy how my White Widows come along :)
Teh_Saccade
Teh_Saccade
@love_2_grow, Thanks for the help! I appreciate it! You know... the plant would probably be about 30cm + tall if I didn't keep tying it down :P It's so bent up like a pretzel right now, which has seemed to help it shoot out a lot more of the side branches compared to a regular White Widow. It is a small little thing, but I'm hoping that after it starts to develop true buds that it will shoot out a little :) I'm going to hold off on taking away any more leaves for a few weeks! Thanks again! :D
GrowingGrannie
GrowingGrannieweek 5
Hey there... Hashy was right - you really don't want to do much defoliation at this stage... The one thing I'd recommend is pulling up your lights so they're about 24" away - this will encourage the plant to stretch. Super job so far!!
Teh_Saccade
Teh_Saccade
@GrowingGrannie, Thanks for the tip, Grannie! :D I think the light is about 20" (? 50cm?) away from the plants at the moment... I've a little problem in that I accidentally hanged it a little skewed, so one of the ratchet ties is a little shorter than the other. If I lower it - it falls in a diagonal pattern... but I think the coverage is still good! What I've done, following your advice, is to move the plant to the outside rather than directly under it - also the same for the other auto :D Hopefully this will have a similar effect in encouraging it to pull out a bit more toward the light :D I'll have to stop tying everything down - but these autos are wanting to grow so much every day!!! At least an inch is added to the shoots every time I go to check on them! :D
Kynareth
Kynarethweek 0
good luck!!
love_2_grow
love_2_growweek 0
Happy Growing, Buddy! 🌱🌱🌱