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HiddenMessage HiddenMessage
2 years ago
all plants are together . hope the new plant stretches to a 2x. all look healthy. torn between using nutes and not just about every time I water. the yellow fly traps are more precautionary than anything because of the area around the tent. I get 1 ,2 or maybe 3 flys every few weeks. think I could defoliate more but idk.migth take of some inner nodes on some to make sure no mold grows. start of week 4 flower for the other and week 1 for new plant
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Grow Questions
HiddenMessage
HiddenMessagestarted grow question 2 years ago
was gonna try new soil or mixing soils. does anyone know if this is good one to mix with? also going to use some light mix bio buzz soil. just don't think I have enough of only light mix.
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Organoman
Organomananswered grow question 2 years ago
Mixes for azaleas are highly acidic and much too acidic for cannabis!
HiddenMessage
HiddenMessagestarted grow question 2 years ago
any recommendations on training ? taking this slow and want some strong yielding plants . very healthy rn. gonna have some taller than others I can tell. should I top or fim the tall ones? more I know the better
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XperencdGmanXG
XperencdGmanXGanswered grow question 2 years ago
back off on the nutes a bit and fix your flight ph issue first, then I'd FIM them now this will give you 4 bud sites instead of one, so fim every tip.
HiddenMessage
HiddenMessagestarted grow question 2 years ago
what causes this clawing .? haven't watered n almost a week because they are still moist due to my over nute so they can't soak up all the moisture I think. they not soaked so maybe I should go ahead nd give reg water ? or wait til complete dry soil?
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GrowingGrannie
GrowingGrannieanswered grow question 2 years ago
Clawing/drooping usually comes from one of two things: over or under-watering.... You need to let this dry out completely before giving anything more! I'm seeing some yellow sticky pads, yes? Which means to me you've got some bug problems and I'm going to guess they're fungus gnats because those critters live in wet soil... So when you get back to watering/feeding again, get some Mosquito Bits and follow the directions - you have to soak a certain amount of them in a certain amount of water which you then use for your plants... I put the granules in a strainer which I then put in the water because it makes getting all of them out MUCH easier. Anyway, this will kill off the fungus gnats - if it's a bad infestation, you might have to use it once a week for 3 weeks but it DOES work and work quite well! Good luck... she'll be ok - just let her dry out!
HiddenMessage
HiddenMessagestarted grow question 2 years ago
when I switch to flower, would I be best to keep the vegging plant under the same light its under which is about 300w or best to put it back in the 680w light? also I just transplanted and she's a little stressed, does she look like she's missing any nutes?
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NobodysBuds
NobodysBudsanswered grow question 2 years ago
should pick light based on aera you need to cover.. and need more in 150% of vege light intensity in flower for 12 hours a day vs 18 (DLI is proportional to hours) and, i'd give your flowering plants first dibs then whatever fits after that. i assume your grow lights make them paler than if you took pics in a normal house light... so it looks fine. lil saggy, but i think a little more perlite, vermiculite or clay balls for drainage would help there... especially if that only happens after an irrigation. node spacing looks tight but can't be certain... maybe 2-4" more distance from canopy to light would do'em good.. may even be the cause of sag if it wasn't recently watered in that pic. if it's droopy like that at end of light cycle, more reason to attribute droop to the lights.
HiddenMessage
HiddenMessagestarted grow question 2 years ago
also I might have to leave these plants. so I might have someone else water. can I go ahead and mix all the nutes with water into a big container so someone could just use that? or it will go bad sitting still? the water and nutes that is .
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NobodysBuds
NobodysBudsanswered grow question 2 years ago
it can if stagnant quite quickly... keeping it cold, dark and stirring will slow that process down (microbial gowth). if you are talking a week, probablay gonna be okay, but anything much longer you might want to consider more than just a big barrel of fertilized water. something with a lid to reduce evaporation will avoid one cause for concentration to change - the other being microbes eating your nutes and wreaking havoc on pH. got a power head for an aquarium or some air pumps and tubing to make bubbles? otherwise make they stir it each day... that will oxygenate it at the least. probably have some film on it by end of week... doesn't necessarily mean doom but leads to potential problems if the wrong stuff starts gowing in your medium.
HiddenMessage
HiddenMessagestarted grow question 2 years ago
should I remove the inner vegetation and the stuff closer to the bottom ? or should I wait a little linger to do so?
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m0use
m0useanswered grow question 2 years ago
I'm not convinced it needs it at this point, If you can use some more LST training techniques that would be an option, your plant is just under a foot high if the diary is correct. If you wanted too defoliate and plan on going through with it. grey_wolfs answer is true. Air flow and light penetration are why growers defoliate. however I know that another user on this site organoman thinks striping any leaves off of a plant is wrong and would say don't. I'm a bit divided on it and think it should only be done in rare cases when LST is not an option and only when there are to many leaves cause issues with airflow. Good Luck! ***disclaimer, multiple people are answering all questions as there is a contest called GOTM, when a user is selected as the answer they get a point. Please see the contest page for information regarding the details: growdiaries.com/giveaways/GotM-August-2022 Please note, when you reply to anything on the questions part of Growdiaries website, no one will be notified of this. Not even if you use a "@" tag in their name. Best to reach out to them in DM using your inbox, it can be found in the bottom right hand corner of the site. It's the small paper airplane button, it will be highlighted green if you have new messages***
HiddenMessage
HiddenMessagestarted grow question 2 years ago
no idea what the seeds are. but is there anyway to tell if its indica or sativa? also usually once I get to this point there is a much deeper smell and I can scratch and sniff at least but with these there seems to be almost no smell, no more than just a vegging cannabis plant .?
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NobodysBuds
NobodysBudsanswered grow question 2 years ago
stuff is so interbred and the ppl doing it have no idea about genetics... each plant is not evenly split between its parents all all times.. especially a few iterations down the line it becomes an entangled mess.. so the code that is "indica" or "sativa" originally really doesn't denot much at all... i just use it to denote between teh tall and lanky vs short and bushy but the buds could be anything between as far as anything that is truly unique to one or the other. terp profiles, thc% etc etc.. it's a jumbled mess.. so 1 physical trait doesn't correlat to another unless it was a specific target of the breeder and they really don't know what is what cause they've never mapped out the genome. our old taxonomical system was completely rearranged once we started mapping genomes and categorizing animals and other life more properly based on their lineage. the 5 kingdoms shouldnt even be referenced anymore.. they tried to shoehorn it into the new system of the 3 domains for no reason other than some long dead person's ego. those are mistakes made by many ppl in a more systematic and professional way... imagine what kind of simple mistakes and misunderstandings would ppl with no understanding of genetics (like you are or me) would make. these terms carry very little causality with them anymore. you may find some breeder that may have kept them separate, but no guarantees they aren't lying either or where they got the cuttings from etc etc... so there's just a lot of hubbabaloo to create a feeling of premium all over the place.. good luck figuring out what is what. trial and error.
HiddenMessage
HiddenMessagestarted grow question 2 years ago
almost end week 4 flower. thinking they should be a little fatter buds.. seems they been the same all week. maybe I didn't water or feed correctly? maybe its because the temp is always 82 F during the day. ? do I need the temp at 75 or lower for the end of flower?other ideas?
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m0use
m0useanswered grow question 2 years ago
I think they are looking about on point like Chitowncannachica says> growdiaries.com/diaries/129773-grow-journal-by-m0use/week/755292 This was my blue cindy at week 4 in flower and it was a short compact grow. As for nitrogen lockout, IDK about that. May want to invest into a TDS pen that read EC/PPM to ensure your not overfeeding them. Best Of Luck! ***disclaimer, multiple people are answering all questions as there is a contest called GOTM, when a user is selected as the answer they get a point. Please see the contest page for information regarding the details: growdiaries.com/giveaways/GotM-August-2022 Please note, when you reply to anything on the questions part of Growdiaries website, no one will be notified of this. Not even if you use a "@" tag in their name. Best to reach out to them in DM using your inbox, it can be found in the bottom right hand corner of the site. It's the small paper airplane button, it will be highlighted green if you have new messages***
HiddenMessage
HiddenMessagestarted grow question 2 years ago
so if I used 0 nutes during the flower process what would happen to the buds.? would they fox tail? just not be very big? not be very strong? less trichomes? how about in different types of soil, light, coco, full mix?, all with 0 nutes
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GrowingGrannie
GrowingGrannieanswered grow question 2 years ago
Are you wanting to try a grow with no nutes? Why?! So, what would happen... they probably wouldn't grow very much, if they produced any flowers at all, those would be very small and not many of them, you'd probably get some trichs if they made it into flower but who knows how many... And it doesn't matter what your substrate is in this scenario... Finally, foxtailing is the result of extreme heat and has nothing to do with nutes... Cheers...
HiddenMessage
HiddenMessagestarted grow question 2 years ago
this is the plants as I let the medium dry up a lot in case I had overwatered. I just used only water to water. do they look like they lack nutes? or is it just getting late in flower so they changing and slightly pale .
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GrowingGrannie
GrowingGrannieanswered grow question 2 years ago
I'm seeing a couple of things here - but since you really have not been specific about what nutes you're giving in what amount, I'm not going to be able to suggest a good course of action... but let me tell you what I see... First, the plant you're worried about that's drooping? I think this plant has a problem with nitrogen toxicity ... and before you say "but I give them all the same nutes," let me tell you that each plant will react differently to exactly the same treatment. I had told you in an earlier question that the drooping was either over or underwatering ... and that's mostly true... but I'm seeing a clawing now and, since you're saying you've let them dry up in case of overwatering, and she STILL hasn't responded, then the problem becomes something else - and that is nitrogen toxicity. For HER, I would flush her out which I'm going to assume you know how to do (growing in 10 gallon pots, run 30 gallons of pH'd water through her)... into the last 2 gallons, add your nutes at 1/2 strength... and if you're using BioBizz Grow, cut THAT to 1/4 or cut it out completely. There are other BioBizz nutes that have a high degree of nitrogen in them - Fish Shit comes to mind - so if you're giving them that, cut IT to 1/4, too. Then let them dry out before resuming your water/feed routine. And for HER, I would go forward with less of the nutes that are high in nitrogen. As for the others, I'm seeing some possible calcium deficiency - now that could ALSO be caused by a nitrogen overload but I don't think you're at the point with them that they require a flush. For them, I would just suggest that a) cut back on nitrogen-rich nutes and b) add some calmag. Nitrogen is not as crucial to plants in flower as it is to plants in veg - and giving them too much can cause any number of problems... Good luck... the grow is looking good - just needs a bit of tweaking!
HiddenMessage
HiddenMessagestarted grow question 2 years ago
anything I missing or should do different? thinking of defo for the last time in a day or so. also prob one or 2 more nute feeds than flush. I think I got the soil ph back in check .
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GrowingGrannie
GrowingGrannieanswered grow question 2 years ago
Hey - the plant in the back is looking a lot better than it did when you posed your last question - but still looks like it's struggling a bit. I'd look into Ezzjybruh's thought on some root problems if you're planning to run this grow for a lot longer... but your question makes it seem like you're thinking of harvesting soon? If that's the case, defoliation now will make your trim and dry period shorter which is an ok thing... and flushing for harvest is also a good thing.... But I see no other reason to either defoliate or flush nor do I see anything else you need to do. Good luck!
HiddenMessage
HiddenMessagestarted grow question 2 years ago
is it too much foliage on the younger plant? should I remove some leaves on the inner plant or some smaller bud sites? worried it might become not enough airflow in middle of plant later into flower
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ernest_twwg
ernest_twwganswered grow question 2 years ago
It's all up to you, to be honest. It will grow fine, either way. Plucking the buds underneath the main canopy will redirect those nutrients to the next canopy layer. Letting it go will result in more nuggets, but the ones that are covered will be flarfy. I hope this helps.
HiddenMessage
HiddenMessagestarted grow question 2 years ago
week 5 of flower and just started turning yellowish on some leaves. its a deficiency? or the leaves are just turning? due for a water in about a day , deciding weather to use nutes or just water. used only water last time.
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Organoman
Organomananswered grow question 2 years ago
Hungry for potassium.
HiddenMessage
HiddenMessagestarted grow question 2 years ago
I know the leaves change later in flower but I feel this is more due to a lack of nutrients. last water was with plain water a day ago and now she looks pale. last 3 days or so had noticed it start to change. any ideas?
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AsNoriu
AsNoriuanswered grow question 2 years ago
most fading very nice, some got stressed and have that foxtailing/reveging look, few should be ready. Answering your question, they were hungry, when @Organoman advised to increase pk. Now maybe some got too hungry, too early. Weed will taste amazing tho ! Next time, reduce all feed when you will see first mily, that way youll have few more weeks for flush/plain waterings and will feed them almost to max Happy Harvesting !!!
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Take out magnifying glass, some look definitely eye ready. Happy harvesting !!!
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You're only into week 4 of flower and they probably have a lot more time to go yet.... Now is when they'll be fattening up - and here, light is the key... Saying that, though, I would also try to reduce the heat as you suggested yourself... if it gets TOO hot, you'll find them foxtailing and that you do not want! So if you CAN lower the temps to the mid-70s, that would be good - other than that, patience! Good luck!