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expected flowering: 8-9 weeks
Germination method: cotton disc with 1/2 H2O2 1/2 tap water
Tent: BlackBox Silver 90x60x180
Extractor: 220 m³/h
Soil: Biobizz All-Mix
germination: 10/10
sprout: 8/10 as for now, last two in small pots are showing but prolly won't make it, 😑 my fault they've been overwatered after transplant in soil.
One seedling is right above soil level and didn't strech much so far, but first true leaves grow normally.
One seedling is struggling a little to straighten and open up but first true leaves already grow noticeably.
The six other seedlings look fine.
Day 4:
(1 cm - 6 cm)
Two plants are a little smaller than the 6 others, this shouldn't be a problem as weeks go.
Even if smaller, they are already forming their second set of true leaves like the 6 others.
The two seedlings in small pot are born dead because of over watering after transplant in soil.
Bulb is a little higher than what i usually do to help with temperature at soil level because summer heat.
Day 5:
Well, I finally broke the bank and bought a spiderfarmer SF2000 to replace my 250W HPS in my 90x60x180(3'x2'x6') tent.
I'm crossing fingers that i will still get as good result as with my HPS and that it will improve my issue with heat.
I should receive it day 12
( 12 cm - 30 cm )
The two smaller ones recover well from their delay on start up.
The 6 others plants were already pretty tall, especially one, so i switched them to flowering at the end of week 2.
( 45 cm - 67 cm )
Half phenotypes are starting to flower while other half only show preflowers.
They didn't stretch that much, i prolly should had gave them 3 weeks of vegetation
I received and installed my spiderfarmer SF2000 😃.
I did a quick comparaison with the photone app for the hps and led top of each plant and PPFD measured top of each plant is much better with led than with the hps.
Temperature inside the tent is also much better with the led than with the hps.
( 63 cm - 84 cm )
Half plants started to flower with roughly one week and a half delay. First time i have a strain starting it's flowering this late after 12/12 flip.
Plants that started to flowering first seem to be mostly done with their stretch while other half continue to stretch through the week.
Should had gave them 3 weeks of veg.
They seem to perform well under the LED and sure thing temperature is much better than with the HPS: temperature with led tent closed is lower than temperature with hps tent open and the temperature rise drastically with hps tent closed.
( 69 cm - 91 cm )
Half plants started to flower with roughly one week and a half delay.
Half plants were done with their stretch previous week, while other half continued to stretch.
Update day 47:
Removed a very few leaves to help with light penetration for some lower buds.
Moved some plants:
1-2-3-4
8-5-6-7
( 69 cm - 98 cm )
1-2-3-4
8-5-6-7
Half plants started to flower and finished to stretch with roughly one week and a half delay.
5 plants (phenos 4,5,6,7,8) out of 8 got noticeably more elongated and airy looking buds. That's all the ones that's started to flower later plus one: the tallest from thoose that started to flower early.
( 69 cm - 98 cm )
1-2-3-4
8-5-6-7
Half plants started to flower and finished to stretch with roughly one week and a half delay.
5 plants (phenos 4,5,6,7,8) out of 8 got noticeably more elongated and airy looking buds. That's all the ones that's started to flower later plus one: the tallest from thoose that started to flower early.
Phenos 1,2,3,5,6 got noticeably darker green leaves than the three tallest phenos 4,7,8
So well not really an homogeneous strain.
DAY 62:
Had to cut pheno 3 top because some bud rot 😒. i was thinking about 3 more week flowering for pheno 1,2 and 3 but i may need to harvest earlier.
DAY 63:
Cut a little bit bit more from pheno 3.
( 69 cm - 98 cm )
1-2-3-4
8-5-6-7
Half plants started to flower and finished to stretch with roughly one week and a half delay.
5 plants (phenos 4,5,6,7,8) out of 8 got noticeably more elongated and airy looking buds. That's all the ones that's started to flower later plus one: the tallest from thoose that started to flower early.
Phenos 1,2,3,5,6 got noticeably darker green leaves than the three tallest phenos 4,7,8
Pheno 8 has some leaves turning purple, pheno 2 a very little also.
Pheno 7 has some yelowing leaves might be nitrogen deficiency i'm not gonna adjust for this phenotype as most other phenos are fine with the feeding schedule.
Pheno 4 has some light green leaves might be nitrogen and/or magnesium deficiency i'm not gonna adjust for this phenotype as most other phenos are fine with the feeding schedule..
So well not really an homogeneous strain. It look like there is mostly 4 different main phenotypes:
- pheno 1,2,3 fastest flowering, short, dark green leaves , dense and compact flowers, low to average yield, harvested after 8 weeks flowering because bud rot two weeks earlier than what i was planning.
- pheno 4 fast flowering, rather tall, light green leaves, sligtly more elongated and airy bud than 1,2,3 ; good yield, harvested after 8 weeks and 2 days flowering because bud rot two to three weeks earlier than what i was planning..
- pheno 5,6 slow flowering, rather short, dark green leaves, elongated but still compact buds, low to average yield.
- pheno 7,8 slow flowering, tall, light green leaves, elongated and noticeably more airy buds, good yield.
Had to cut pheno 3 top day 62 because some bud rot 😒.
Pheno 1,2,3 already have 50%-65% orange hair and as the strain could be sensitive to mold finally planning to harvest them at the end of next week even if they could probably go a little longer they will be good enough, so i started to flush them this week with only 3ml/l Top-Max, 2ml/l Bio-Heaven, 0.5ml/l Mammoth P and next week will be pHed water only. I may push them another week with pHed water but i'm a bit worried to try my luck again with bud rot.
Pheno 4 will prolly need one or two weeks more than pheno 1,2,3 and pheno 5,6,7,8 will prolly need another one or two weeks more flowering than pheno 4.
DAY 69:
Had to cut and clean pheno 2 top because some bud rot 😒 so finally changing my plan and will harvest pheno 1,2,3 tomorrow after 8 weeks flowering so 2 weeks earlier than what i was initially planning to do.
DAY 70:
Pheno 1,2,3 harvest.
WEEK 11 DAY 72.
Had to harvest pheno 4 because some bud rot, lost 4 branchs middle of the main cola.
( 69 cm - 98 cm )
8-5-6-7
Half plants started to flower and finished to stretch with roughly one week and a half delay.
Pheno 8 has some leaves turning purple, pheno 2 a very little also.
So well not really an homogeneous strain. It look like there is mostly 4 different main phenotypes:
- pheno 1,2,3 fastest flowering, short, dark green leaves , dense and compact flowers, low to average yield, harvested after 8 weeks flowering because bud rot two weeks earlier than what i was planning.
- pheno 4 fast flowering, rather tall, light green leaves, sligtly more elongated and airy bud than 1,2,3 ; good yield, harvested after 8 weeks and 2 days flowering because bud rot two to three weeks earlier than what i was planning..
- pheno 5,6 slow flowering, rather short, dark green leaves, elongated but still compact buds, low to average yield.
- pheno 7,8 slow flowering, tall, light green leaves, elongated and noticeably more airy buds, good yield.
Had to cut pheno 3 top day 62 because some bud rot 😒.
Had to cut and clean pheno 2 top day 69 because some bud rot 😒
Pheno 1,2,3 harvest day 70 after 8 weeks flowering so 2 weeks earlier than what i was initially planning to do..
Had to harvest pheno 4 day 72 because some bud rot, lost 4 branchs middle of the main cola.
I m crossing fingers that i can push the remaining plants at least one and a half week to two and a half weeks more without some more bud rot. So will start to flush them next week.
( 69 cm - 98 cm )
8-5-6-7
Half plants started to flower and finished to stretch with roughly one week and a half delay.
Pheno 8 has some leaves turning purple, pheno 2 a very little also.
So well not really an homogeneous strain. It look like there is mostly 4 different main phenotypes:
- pheno 1,2,3 fastest flowering, short, dark green leaves , dense and compact flowers, low to average yield, harvested after 8 weeks flowering because bud rot two weeks earlier than what i was planning.
- pheno 4 fast flowering, rather tall, light green leaves, sligtly more elongated and airy bud than 1,2,3 ; good yield, harvested after 8 weeks and 2 days flowering because bud rot two to three weeks earlier than what i was planning.
- pheno 5,6 slow flowering, rather short, dark green leaves, elongated but still compact buds, average yield, harvested after 10 weeks flowering one to two weeks earlier than what i was planning.
- pheno 7,8 slow flowering, tall, light green leaves, elongated and noticeably more airy buds (especially pheno 8), good yield, harvested after 10 weeks flowering one to two weeks earlier than what i was planning.
Had to cut pheno 3 top day 62 because some bud rot 😒.
Had to cut and clean pheno 2 top day 69 because some bud rot 😒
Pheno 1,2,3 harvest day 70 after 8 weeks flowering so 2 weeks earlier than what i was initially planning to do..
Had to harvest pheno 4 day 72 because some bud rot, lost 4 branchs middle of the main cola.
Pheno 7 is showing some amber on some small leaves but other phenos seem less advanced, humidity at night have been much better this week so not sure if i harvest this saturday or push them one and a half week more. But regarding my stock and what's been lost to mold prolly saturday.
Today day 81 is the day to put phenos 1,2,3 into jar and I have spoted some more mold on the dried main colas of phenos 1,2,3,4 ; i already had some mold 3 or 4 times before harvest with some previous grows but it's the first time i have mold continuing to spread while drying but it's also true humidity was still a bit high the first few day of drying around 70% it came back to the usual 50% middle of the drying process, the main colas were probably too dense and too wet in the middle at the beggining of drying and it continued to spread from the inner of the colas along the main stem 😒 i have lost a signifiant amount of buds like 1/3 to 2/5 of what's have been harvested so far 😒
DAY 83:
Put pheno 4 into jar, in the end for pheno 1,2,3,4 i have 2/3 to 3/4 jar when i should had 1 jar 1/4 to 1 jar 1/2.
DAY 84:
Phenos 5,6,7,8 harvest, cleaned a little pheno 5 that had a very little mold with one branch of the main cola, crossing fingers it didn't spread more while drying like with pheno 1,2,3,4 but i'm optimistic as RH is much better around 45% to 50% the last few days than few weeks ago.
DAY 94:
Time to put pheno 5,6,7,8 into jars, pheno 5 main cola had 6 to 7 buds with little mold along the main stem.
Great taste with tropical, pine and earthy hints. Some cough depending phenotypes but love it.
Sadly not really an homogeneous strain and too much bud rot (wich for the first time continued to spread while drying).
Last flowering weeks and first drying week with 70% RH didn't help.
Half plants started to flower and finished to stretch with roughly one week and a half delay.
It would have been a great yield without all the mold.
It look like there is mostly 4 different main phenotypes:
- pheno 1,2,3 fastest flowering, short, dark green leaves , dense and compact flowers, low to average yield, harvested after 8 weeks flowering because bud rot two weeks earlier than what i was planning.
- pheno 4 fast flowering, rather tall, light green leaves, sligtly more elongated and airy bud than 1,2,3 ; good yield, harvested after 8 weeks and 2 days flowering because bud rot two to three weeks earlier than what i was planning.
- pheno 5,6 slow flowering, rather short, dark green leaves, elongated but still compact buds, average yield, harvested after 10 weeks flowering one to two weeks earlier than what i was planning.
- pheno 7,8 slow flowering, tall, light green leaves, elongated and noticeably more airy buds (especially pheno 8), good yield, harvested after 10 weeks flowering one to two weeks earlier than what i was planning.
( 69 cm - 98 cm )
Half plants started to flower and finished to stretch with roughly one week and a half delay.
Pheno 8 has some leaves turning purple, pheno 2 a very little also.
So well not really an homogeneous strain. It look like there is mostly 4 different main phenotypes:
- pheno 1,2,3 fastest flowering, short, dark green leaves , dense and compact flowers, low to average yield, harvested after 8 weeks flowering because bud rot two weeks earlier than what i was planning.
- pheno 4 fast flowering, rather tall, light green leaves, sligtly more elongated and airy bud than 1,2,3 ; good yield, harvested after 8 weeks and 2 days flowering because bud rot two to three weeks earlier than what i was planning.
- pheno 5,6 slow flowering, rather short, dark green leaves, elongated but still compact buds, average yield, harvested after 10 weeks flowering one to two weeks earlier than what i was planning.
- pheno 7,8 slow flowering, tall, light green leaves, elongated and noticeably more airy buds (especially pheno 8), good yield, harvested after 10 weeks flowering one to two weeks earlier than what i was planning.
Had to cut pheno 3 top day 62 because some bud rot 😒.
Had to cut and clean pheno 2 top day 69 because some bud rot 😒
Pheno 1,2,3 harvest day 70 after 8 weeks flowering so 2 weeks earlier than what i was initially planning to do..
Had to harvest pheno 4 day 72 because some bud rot, lost 4 branchs middle of the main cola.
Pheno 7 is showing some amber on some small leaves but other phenos seem less advanced, humidity at night have been much better this week so not sure if i harvest this saturday or push them one and a half week more. But regarding my stock and what's been lost to mold prolly saturday.
Day 81 is the day to put phenos 1,2,3 into jar and I have spoted some more mold on the dried main colas of phenos 1,2,3,4 ; i already had some mold 3 or 4 times before harvest with some previous grows but it's the first time i have mold continuing to spread while drying but it's also true humidity was still a bit high the first few day of drying around 70% it came back to the usual 50% middle of the drying process, the main colas were probably too dense and too wet in the middle at the beggining of drying and it continued to spread from the inner of the colas along the main stem 😒 i have lost a signifiant amount of buds like 1/3 to 2/5 of what's have been harvested so far 😒
DAY 83:
Put pheno 4 into jar, in the end for pheno 1,2,3,4 i have 2/3 to 3/4 jar when i should had 1 jar 1/4 to 1 jar 1/2.
DAY 84:
Phenos 5,6,7,8 harvest, cleaned a little pheno 5 that had a very little mold with one branch of the main cola, crossing fingers it didn't spread more while drying like with pheno 1,2,3,4 but i'm optimistic as RH is much better around 45% to 50% the last few days than few weeks ago.
DAY 94:
Time to put pheno 5,6,7,8 into jars, pheno 5 main cola had 6 to 7 buds with little mold along the main stem.
@Jobbie, well i have a few extra from previous grow so i don't bother that much. i did some quick stats:
out of 22 grows, 6 grows with mold (usually 1-4 phenos affected), 5 times i have cleaned the buds at the time of harvest and mold didn't continued to spread while drying.
so first time out of 22 i have this shit happening and anyway i wasn't really happy with this strain, not homogeneous enough to my taste, that's not what i expect when i spent a signifiant amount of money for some seeds. half phenotypes didn't even start to flower and finished to stretch at the same time, this is also the first time i had this happeing in 22 grows.
@Harmar, idea is to switch to LED permanently both for veg and flo as i had some heat issue with the hps. temperature is much better inside tent with led than with hps.
@HerbalEdu, CBD strains alway stretch. But with flowering time of only 8 weeks, i would choose long vegging time. With your repertoire of techniques, i am sur tou can manage 😀😀😀😀😀
@Med_in_Tropic, yeah nice strain i love the THC CBD ratio: 13%THC , 7%CBD
Now the big question is how many weeks of veg: 2 or 3, she's supposed to be medium in height so a bit affraid of her strech.
@HippyHemulen, yeah me too so far, it's the phenotype the most advanced in it's flowering, and still it's a bit behind in comparison to what i'm used to with some other strains.
@HerbalEdu, i was finding small stools to even out the height of canopy in mass grows. Used shoe boxes, old books - anything ;))) later something from plastic and with posibility to drain run off .
You would win quality a bit.
I would chop all ASAP, white fuzz appears for few hours , then in 12-24 you have suddenly yellow leave, rot will appear in 48-72 hours ...
I lost all my fights and pushing was most stupid mistake in such case ... I did it not once ;))) uk outdoors .... Had for 5 grows indoors too, but cracked only how to prevent, never won a fight ....
@HerbalEdu, some current strains lloks like have that giant gene, but then goes foxtaily/reveging/airy .. it happened to 2 plants from Alaskan diesel at my friends outdoors , few from Northern lights at mines indoors , good for bubble or eatables ;))))
Good Luck !
@AsNoriu, i can't do much about it either, RH at night inside the tent could reach 99% once the plant are in flower, some strain(s) and phenotype(s) resist humidity some don't 😐
Not the first time i have some mold and trying to push the plants a little worked 2 time failed 1 time for me, but as the remaining phenotypes are not the same as thoose that i already harvested i will try my luck at least for a a week and a half, remaining phenos are much more sativa and airy than phenos already harvested, usually resist better to bud rot than phenos indica with dense and compact flowers
HerbalEdu
