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After rockwool did not seem to stay moist, I put bean in moist paper towel and covered, small tap root the next day. Kept for another day in towel in moist paper germinated 12/26, kept in towel another 24 hrs. Put in Fox Farm Ocean. Advised by growers that it may be too hot. So I dug up, surrounded seed with seed starting medium so it hopefully it won't be too hot for the seedling.
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Planted sprouted autoflower bean in Fox Ocean mixed with indoor organic soil and added DR Earth herb and veg fertilizer to the mix. Is this considered living soil and enough nutrients to grow to harvest without additional fertilizing? If I need to fertilize, how much do I use?
I wouldn't say this is a living soil... but it's an amended soil at the least... and I'm hoping you'll do all right with it. The soil you've chosen has an NPK of 4-1-1 while the nutrients you've chosen have an NPK, I believe, of 3-2-2. This is going to be pretty "hot" for an autoflower at the beginning of its life ... they generally don't like nor need ANY nutes at all for the first couple of weeks which is why, when I grow in soil, I always use ProMixHP which has no nutes whatsoever in it - only wonderful mycorrhizae to provide a good boost for the roots. With this, I get to decide what nutes, when and how much to give my plants... I control their "diet."
If you think, which is sounds like you do, that you can put together some soil and some nutrients and put your seed in the pot, give it a little water now and again and have a good grow all the way to harvest, you may well be disappointed. Cannabis needs specific nutes at specific times - and autoflowers are the pickiest and most demanding of cannabis to grow. I guess I'm failing to understand why it is you chose a vegetable and herb fertilizer as opposed to a cannabis fertlizer... but if the seeds are now in the soil, that's basically a fait a'compli as autoflowers do not tolerate transplanting well and it isn't adviseable to do so, especially if it's just a small seed with a tap root - the danger lies in tearing/breaking that tap root which would kill the plant.
When your plant moves from the veg stage to the pre-flower and flower stage, you will have to reduce the nitrogen they are being given and add bloom nutes which are higher in potassium and phosphorus... and MAYBE, by the time they are in flower, the soil will be depleted of the nutrients and the fertlizer has been used up... if so, then you will have a shot at giving it some good bloom nutes at that point. But how you tell whether or not the nutes are used up or the soil depleted is not something I know.
I wish you well... You had messaged me about soil grows - you should go read a couple of diaries to see what growers need to do, the problems they encounter and the difficulties you may face. Good luck! At least you'll learn a lot about growing cannabis!
Growing nicely. Getting 2nd set of leaves and 2 "tall. Weird that the leaves are twisted a bit. Watering 1 time a day in morning with 50 ml water. To get thru humidity up for the seedlings, I put a bowl of water, small humidifier, and 2 wet towels (suggested by @GrowingGrannie). I have to rewet the towels at night to maintain rh above 45%
Since I have 3 seedlings in the tent, each popped soil co secutive days,for ease of discussion, will now refer to days in tent
Day 13 in tent began 100 ml of water 3 inches from plant. Showing 5fan leaf set starting.
With the soil you're growing in, you won't need to add nutes for another week or so - and then only about 1/4 strength (be careful of the Grow Big - I always had difficulty with that one when I used FoxFarm... in fact, in the soil you're growing in, I wouldn't ever give your plants more than 1/4 strength of it!). Autos don't need/don't want nutes for the first bits of their lives and since you've already got nutes in your soil, just be extra careful when you DO start to use them that they're going to be tolerated.
If this was my grow, in about a week, I would do 1/4 strength of both Grow Big and Big Bloom since she could start to go into pre-flower right about then.... and even if she doesn't, adding the bloom nutes does no harm. If she DOES go into pre-flower then, keep the Grow Big at 1/4 strength, don't ever increase it.... I can't tell you how many nitrogen toxicities I had to deal with using that stuff! :-D
One more bit of advice... start watering her in a wider circle... you want the roots to really reach out to find the water and they'll stop if they encounter dry soil - but the more roots, the bigger/stronger the plant so encourage them to grow!
Good luck! She's looking really good so far!
Day 15 Starting height 2 inches now on Wednesday day 18, she has grown .5 inch. Has 1 5 fan set and starting 7 fan set. Watering every other day 250 ml water and will start fertilizer next week. Soil gnats have shown up in the tent. I put a yellow sticky paper on the pot. The fly trap caught her leaves and tore some of them off. I know she'll survive but it's a stress we could have lived without.
Day 19 watered 500 ml, she grew more and now 4 inches.
Day 22, I lifted the air pot to move the girls around in the tent, Purple chill has 10-12" root growing out of the bottom of the pot.
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Week 4. Vegetation
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17.78 cm
18 hrs
26 °C
6.2
No Smell
830 PPM
51 %
22 °C
24 °C
23 °C
5 L
30 L
40.64 cm
Nutrients 2
Big Bloom 0.651 mll
Home Grown Tomato, Vegetable & Herb Fertilizer 4-6-3 3.255 mll
Starting week 4 she has almost filled the pot. Wow grown 3 inches in one week. Now 7 inches tall. Started fertilizer on Monday day 22 in soil 1/4 strength of big bloom and grow big. Increased water to 750 ml
Day 24 grew .5 inch now 4.5 inches tall. 1 liter water
Day 25 5 inches water & fertilized 1.5 liters
day 26 5.5inches
Day 27 6 inches. Water and fertilizer 2 liters. Really growing fast.
Day 28 7 inches.
Thanks for checking on my progress. Please hit the like button if you like what you see. and I'll check out your plants as well. Purple chill is strong and steady.
Grow .5 inch per day and drinking 1 liter in 2 days. Her color is very dark compared to her tent mates.
Day 33 in tent, defoliated the fan leaves to open up the canopy.
White hairs are starting to show.
Started running dehumidifier since the tent stay above 60%
Penny is my middle child. She is mid height, 13 inches tall and grows about .5 inch per day drinks 1.5 liters in 24 hours. White hairs appeared last week, looks like she is getting crowns. I see tufts. Flower? YES
Vigorous and getting bigger every day. Now 15 inches. Drinking about 1800 liters per day.
End of the week, Penny (Purple Chill) On Thursday she got all gussied up for her girls' night out with her gal pals. Check her out. Shes a beauty.
Day temps range from 76-80 with humidity between 45-61%.
Night temps 73-81 with humidity 54-89. I can't get this down using a small dehumidifier. I will be leaving the tent open for a few nights to see if I can get the temp and humidity down.
Well the Natrona sisters, Olga, Penny and Gigi, got all dressed up real pretty for the @Fastbuds Valentine's party. They had on their sparkly prom dresses, necklaces and flowers in their hair. So pretty for their first night on the town. My girls came home heart broken 💔 as the bouncers wouldn't let them in.
Day 47
Still having trouble keeping humidity down at night. I will try dry ice soon. Cool the tent without raising humidity. Also I will be leaving the tent open with 18/6 lights. I had to raise the lights as high as they would go due to her rapid and steady growth.
Plants doing good.
End of week 25 inches tall 15 inches from light. This should help her a bit stretch.
Temperature and humidity have been a problem.
Tried a bowl of ice packs, dry ice 15# ( evaporated within 24 hrs. expensive for one day.) I'm sure my gals got benefit of C02. Didn't work.
Tent full open and partial pen at different times of day. Minimal changes in either temp or RH.
I ordered a personal A/C unit to bring down temps, i fear that it will continue the humidity issue . hope fully it will come in soon.
This week is closing with mixed feelings. I ordered a small air-conditioning unit at the beginning of the month to cool the tent and reduce the humidity. Well no shipment has arrived yet. So I called the company, they cancelled the order because they are out of stock. There was no inventory at the manufacturer 😮. So my 3 girls have continued to endure high temperatures mid 70s to low 80s in the day and mid 70s at night lights off with humidity high 50-60%.
I did the final trim start of 3rd week of flower per @Legacy market farm you tube and GD tutorials and fed immediately after. To counter brown tips, I reduced ppm to 850 for this feeding. 2nd feed was Wednesday with ppm at 900. I eliminated big bloom and grow big. Used only tiger bloom.
Week 10
Last week I did the final deformation day 20 in flower. Recovered nicely despite my struggles with high heat and humidity. So basically I keep the tent really open during the day and vented at night. There small ac well, it blew cool air but not enough to reduce Temps. So these gals are doing their very best all things considered.
Penny is the medium gal 26.5 inches. She will not grow any taller. Her buds are stacking and fattening up. The top bud is about 2inches. My arms are getting a bit sticky when I pull the girls out. That's a good sign. The tent room is carrying a heavier mixed scent too. Based on the see info I should be looking at end of this month harvest.
So im going to call this reset week. My plants have had a month of veg and about a month and a half in flower. Thus far I've over fertilized, have too much heat from the lights and haven't been able to control humidity. A month was wasted waiting for a small air conditioner from the manufacturer. I finally called only to find out they had NO inventory. I ordered a similar one off Amazon, which arrived within a week. Unfortunately it did only reduced the heat in the tent by a degree or two. Following that, I tried dry ice to reduce temps without raising humidity. 15# evaporated in less than 24 hours at a $30. I added another fan and keep the tent open during the day.
My day temperatures range from74 to 82 with the day RH range of 39-51%. The higher humidity occurring after watering.
My night Temps range from 72-77 and rh from 40-54%
So today Mar 8 (day 74) I decided to flush the ladies with 1 gal of water each. Hopefully reduce nutrient toxicity in the soil and plants. Also I'm reducing lights from 18 hours to 14 hours since the lights give off heat and I'm crisping my girls. I am hoping for a yield that is average considering the struggles I've put them thru.
3/9 Made my mini antennas today 1 for each plant. See week 5 cannabis links diary for more on Electro culture
3/10 flushed another gallon of filtered water thru each plant. gals got another and photo session today. The Trichomes forming are clear and opaque but no amber
keep tent open during the day
day 72 hairs turning yellow
Day 73 Feed 1 tsp per 2 gal
Day 74 reduced Light schedule to 14 hrs on 10 off
Day 74 Flushed each plant with 1 gal of filered water
Day 74 & 75 working on my antennas for energy accumulation
Day 75 placed antennas
Day 76 flushed each plant with 1 gal of water
Night 76 - since I reduced light hours, the girls lights out is 9:00pm. Put them in the garage at night
garage temps are ~ 60f so the drop in temp will induce purple or other color profiles.
garage is not light proof so they will not be in complete darkness
So how was this week.
Major changes:
Turned lights to 14 /10 to reduce heat on the plants and reduce burning the tips.
Keep tent open during the day to reduce humidity and temperatures using 2 fans. Temps range from 76 -78 with rh 43 - 46%.
Put the plants in the garage at night. This greatly reduces night temperatures also we have been having colder than normal weather. The night temperatures ranged from 53-58 & rh 41-51%.
I continued to flush with a gal of water for each plant on day 79. This is because I've been over feeding and thought this could reduce the in plan nutrient stores. Responses to my last question revealed that I have a cal mag problem. I go to our local hardware / garden store that I know carries cannabis fertilizers. No they did not have any cal mag solution. Order came in yesterday at the end of the week.
Day 81 fed 1 tsp tiger bloom per gal ( used 2 gal for all plants). Ppm was at a very low 410. This is much lower than the recommended feeding range but they have been getting too much.
Day 82. Normally I would not water as the pots still had weight to them, but the cal mag came in so I made up 2 gal with 2 tsp fox farm cal mag and fed their usual water amount.
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Based on the seed info, it looks like I'm within a week or two from harvest.
Thank you for the visit, I appreciate the love and encouragement and leave a like or a comment 😘
See you next time ✋
Autoflower seed packs indicated 8-9 weeks but the smell from the tent is mild maybe medium and the buds are only a little bit sticky. These pictures of each plant are at day 84. Am I too late or do they need more time? Many milky trichomes and amber pistols.
Your buds look great if you are waiting to flush for a couple of days (recommended minimum of 10 days), then I would start planning it. Best get a magnifying lens and check the trichomes for at least 20% amber, then harvest.
Some other tips: Leave the plants in complete dark for the last 24/36 hours to fatten the buds.
(I've also read but haven't tried yet)
That it's a good idea to give ice cold water for the last week to induce some healthy low stress
Oops, sorry. I picked the wrong week type. It should be flower. I have some memes in the contest and can't change it.
Well this is week 13, my ladies are coming into their own. The smell from the tent is getting heavier. I'm going to start the flush process with cold water every other day for 10 days followed by 2 days of darkness to fatten the buds.
I'll continue putting my plants in the garage where night temperatures are generally 15 degrees colder than the daytime tent temperatures.
I've accepted that this is not an optimal grow despite giving them what they needed...light, heat, water, and food..perhaps other than the light schedule, nothing was optimal. My set up was pieced mealed together based on what some of my local friends had done without researching further. I have ordered a new tent kit from AC Infinity ( Thank you @GrowingGrannie and @Ex_Alchemist for sharing your opinions). Once I complete this grow, I'll clean out this tent setup, put down poly over more of the floor. Then set up the second tent. I'll use the smaller tent for dry cure and maybe my vegetables in the winter time. Hope the AC Infinity kit will provide the optimal growing conditions.
Since I'm finishing this grow I would like to take this opportunity to give big thanks to this GD community for likes, comments, follows and all encouragement and love ❤️ vibes. Also I've enjoyed meeting new friends here. I look forward to meeting many more😊.
Shout out to my mentor Andrew @Legacy Market Farms who recently advanced to Guru 👏👏. Congrats 🎉.
Week 14 purple Chill. Well what a mess I made 🙃. I selected the wrong type of week in week 13 loaded pic and comments. It should have been flower. Ok so i try to add week 14,. Upload pics, try to save the changes...NO system tells me can't add a duplicate week. So now I can't do anying in week 14. Have an email to @GrowDiaries for platform support. Oh what a mess 😱.
Last week I decided to start flushing the Natrona sisters but after looking at the trichomes, they are milky but none are amber yet. So this week I'm going to water with cal mag and tiger bloom and wait another week before starting the flushing process.
Week 14 This week is day 92-98. I've reduced the light cycle to 14hours to reduce heat stress. It may reduce yield as well based on comments I've read in other growers diaries. This is reducing the purpleness in the stems of og kush and gorilla glue. However for Penny because of her purple genetics her stems are staying purpleish pink. Nice. Maybe her colors will start showing up with the colder night temperatures in the garage. Might be to late since she has an overabundance of notes.
For the watering, instead of limiting to their normal consumption amount, im flooding each one with 1 gal of water with 1 tsp cal Mal and 1 tsp tiger bloom.
I've accepted that this is not an optimal grow despite giving them what they needed...light, heat, water, and food..perhaps other than the light schedule, nothing was optimal. My set up was pieced mealed together based on what some of my local friends had done without researching further. I have ordered a new tent kit from AC Infinity ( Thank you @GrowingGrannie and @Ex_Alchemist for sharing your opinions). Once I complete this grow, I'll clean out this tent setup, put down poly over more of the floor. Then set up the second tent. I'll use the smaller tent for dry cure and maybe my vegetables in the winter time. Hope the AC Infinity kit will provide the optimal growing conditions.
Week 14 purple Chill. Well what a mess I made 🙃. I selected the wrong type of week in week 13 loaded pic and comments. It should have been flower. Ok so i try to add week 14,. Upload pics, try to save the changes...NO system tells me can't add a duplicate week. So now I can't do anying in week 14. Have an email to @GrowDiaries for platform support. Oh what a mess 😱. Big Thank you to @StarLorr for identifying what I needed to do to fix my duplicate week issue.
Last week I decided to start flushing the Natrona sisters but after looking at the trichomes, they are milky but none are amber yet. So this week I'm going to water with cal mag and tiger bloom and wait another week before starting the flushing process.
Week 14 days 92-98. I've reduced the light cycle from 18 to 14 hours to reduce heat stress. It may reduce yield as well based on comments I've read in other growers diaries. An oz per plant would be nice. Of course more would be better but an oz makes a pound of cannabutter. Reducing the light hours is reducing the purpleness in the stems of og kush and gorilla glue but Purple chill still has purple stems
The Natrona sisters spend their nights in the garage where the temps are 10-15 degrees cooler than in the day temps in the tent. Night temps ranged this week between 63-66 with rh 51-76%. The high rhythm comes after a rain.
During the day, I'm keeping the tent open while circulating 2 fans. Day Temps can reach 80 so it gets hot in there. This week 75-79 with rh 43-55%.
Sunday day 92 watering, instead of limiting to the normal consumption amount, I flooded each plant with 1 gal of water with 1 tsp cal mag and 1 tsp tiger bloom.
Tuesday 94 used up my tiger bloom 4 tsp in 3 gal and 3 tsp cal mag ( water amount is for 3 plants)
Thurs 96 3 tsp cal mag in 3 gal.
Saturday flooded each plant with 1 gal of water. From here forward I will be flushing all plants with filtered water at 1 gal for each plant every other day.
This week has been about the trichomes.
Using an Ankylin 1000x wifi microscope camera, trying to get a close up of them. What an ordeal! I need at least 5 hands to take pics that have any clear image. Oh and an additional person to recessuitate me after passing out from holding my breath to minimize hand shake.
How many are clear, milky, amber?
Well from the photos most are milky at 98 days with 5-10% amber if that many. As I'm now flushing them in preparation of harvest, I can only hope they ripen up in the next week.
Since I'm finishing this grow, I would like to take this opportunity to give big thanks to this GD community for likes, comments, follows and all encouragement and love ❤️ vibes. I've enjoyed meeting new friends here and having fun in the contests. I look forward to meeting many more😊.
Week 15 days 99-105 . I'm am flushing all plants with 1 gallon of filtered water each. I've reduced the light cycle from 18 to 14 hours to reduce heat stress. It may reduce yield as well based on comments I've read in other growers diaries. An oz per plant would be nice. Of course more would be better but an oz makes a pound of cannabutter. Reducing the light hours is reducing the purpleness in the stems of og kush and gorilla glue but Purple chill still has purple stems
The Natrona sisters spend their nights in the garage where the temps are 10-15 degrees cooler than in the day temps in the tent. Night temps ranged this week between 63-66 with rh 51-76%. The high rhythm comes after a rain.
During the day, I'm keeping the tent open while circulating 2 fans. Day Temps can reach 80 so it gets hot in there.
flooded each plant with 1 gal of water. From here forward I will be flushing all plants with filtered water at 1 gal for each plant every other day.
Monday, flushed with 1 gal of water. Starting this flush, I added ice to the top of the soil before watering. See photo.
This is a stress technique used to force plant phenotype colors. I don't think it will work for mine as I over fed. While I have 3 different strains, they look the same with blue green dominance.
Thursday, flushed with 1 gal of water. I added ice to the top of the soil before watering. See photo
Saturday, flushed with 1 gal of water..i added ice to the top of the soil before watering. See photo. Penny gets put in the middle of the tub and gets bumped more often. Stems bent and buds broken off 😢. I'll dry this one as an early harvest.
Sunday pictures
Monday after photo shoot. Closer look at photos there are bugs. They just appeared overnight.
The broken bud let me get some good trichome shots since I could put it on the counter and use both hands to photograph.
General comments:
Purple chill has weak structure stems are weak. Several buds bent or broke during the frequent moving from tent to garage then from garage to tub or tent depending on whether it's watering day.
I'm not seeing any change in leaf or bud colorations from flushing out the fertilizers nor from the ice treatment.
After putting the plants in the garage during the night, morning soil temperatures are within a degree of the night air temperature. This has been about 15 degrees cooler (50s) than the tent temperatures (75+). This week our weather has been unseasonably warm in the 80s so the night temperatures have been 63-71 with Rh 51-70%
Tent temps in the day 75-80 and RH 47-59%
BUGS what are these? How did my plant get them? Where do they come from? How do I get rid of them? They have not been outside of the house: tent, garage, and tub only. The other plants do not show these, but I have separated them until I harvest just in case.
Looks like you may have two infestations.
one 100% being spider mites and the other maybe white fly... hard to tell in blurry pic but they look like it could be there.
There is only one solution if you wanted to use a pesticide and that is Permethrin insecticide. Some of they are "safe" for flower and will evaporate out after two weeks. If you do decide to use them, give them buds a really good wash at the end of it. You could use predatory mites but you would need a lot to cull that infestation and they are not cheap best to use them as a preventive vs an active solution to this problem.
Other option is just kill the whole thing and burn it. Toss out/bake the soil it was growing in as it might house eggs that have fallen off and will repeat the cycle.
I've had mites before outdoors and I sprayed them with a daisy tea I made and it helped kill them off a bit. I also washed the buds but they come back every year outdoors. hard to keep the fuckers away, same with aphids.
Good Luck!
Week 16 Happy Easter week. 4/9-15/23
Flushing, nights in the dark with cold feet.
This is week 2 of flushing before the harvest.
Sunday I flushed each plant with 1 1/2 gal of filtered water after layering ice the top of the pots. After flushing they were just put in the room not in the tent. I had an ocsellating fan moving on a medium speed. Moved to the garage for the night.
Tuesday flushed each plant with 1 1/2 gal of filtered water after layering ice the top of the pots. After flushing they were just put in the room not in the tent. I had an ocsellating fan moving on a medium speed. Moved to the garage for the night.
FOUND BUGS ON PURPLE CHILL. Harvest is moved to this weekend rather than next Tuesday as planned.
Wednesday all three plants were put in the dark room put ice on top of the pot.
No further flushing will be done.
Thursday, Friday, Saturday. Lights remained off Temp 73. Rh 71% when I opened the dark room. The dark room has black out curtains, however there is l8ght exposure around the edge of the curtain.
Saturday afternoon photos taken pre cut, tricomes photographed as best I could. Additional hands are Required as I must take 50 pictures only to get 5 acceptable ones. Cut from the base of her stem , weighed and hung in the tent in the dark with a small fan . The drying has begun. Wet harvest weight 438 grams 15.45 oz.
April 15-19 Hanging in dark room with temperatures ranging from 73-77f Rh 49-74.
April 20 - 22 Hanging in dark room with temperatures ranging from 71-77f Rh 50-80. The higher humidity is a result of turning the home a/c off during the night.
Since its drying time and not much to say.
I decided to locate photos of the same plant at day 20 of flower when I did the last heavy defoliation and side by side comparison to the day of harvest. I don't know if this is a normal harvest or small yield for OG Kush. See last pic in week 16.
She will be drying for 2 weeks or so. I have been checking the stem stiffness or bendiness since the humidity fluctuates. It does not snap yet.
Purple Chill Auto
While Purple chill is Indica-dominant, it can be enjoyed any time. I hade a vape session yesterday afternoon on day 8 of cure window. Immediately a calm washed over me. With a relaxed body feel and uplifting mental feeling. The taste was fruity, tropical, maybe mango or papaya and sweet. Some herbal or earthy hints in the flavor.
Effects: Relaxed, calm, happy . This is a nice social strain. I did not get couch lock and remained functional thru the evening.
Friday morning vape as usual before going to the gym work out, I was relaxed but out of focus. Forgot to pack some items.
Went to hot tub and sauna, maybe too relaxed and happy as I had a medical event following the sauna. So reserve purple chill for evenings and social activities.
Purple Chill aka Penny was easy to grow. She was medium height 26 inches. Stem structure was weak. Many stems bent (repaired with splints and masking tape) and some broke off.
She suffered from heat stress and also showed cal-mag deficiency.
Natrona
