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Hopefully I can keep up with this. I have had these seeds for maybe 2 years. From all my research there is not a ton out there on this particular strain. I hope to do it and everyone here well. Headed out to the grow shed. Space is roughly 4 foot by 8 foot. I will get picts of my set up on here next. 😎 I boiled my hydroton and while boiling I added a cup of Hydrogen Peroxide. I let that simmer for at least an hour.
General Hydroponics - Micro 1st then grow and then bloom, mixed at about 1/3 strength along with a splash of Fox Farms Rooting solution - Cant remember the FF name but it was in my Dirty Dozen pack.
Nothing to see here - yet
Just Move Along - - - - - - NO Fungus (Dog Pecker) Gnats - Yeaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa!!!!! - There is NOT going to be either...
Something is not quite right and I am suspecting root rot already... - I have had a jug of hydroguard for about a year and never broke the seal on it. -
Reservoir total filled to 20 Gallons.. 300 ML Grow - 200 ML Micro - 100 ML Bloom - 40 ML Hydro Guard.
New system - Just seems like my roots should be slightly bigger at this point... Slow and steady wins the race.
I am not changing the Res. It has been exactly 1 week since last change. I will wait until either Wednesday or a full 2 weeks. All I have done is add 15 Mil total of HydroGuard. If I see the slightest change or problem, changing the res out is going to be FIRST. I have never Scrogged before.. Ever.. I am not a pro by any means but I am not a newbie at growing in general anymore either. Any suggestions or guidance in the Scrog process would be appreciated. I will do research here all this week coming up.
Please send scrog tips... Hahaha
This should be the last night for the drip system. Changing to low pressure aeroponics by tomorrow evening.
I will get fresh pictures updated.
The roots seem to be off the charts. The color of the roots on that one picture sort of shows a slight yellow tinge. That is caused by the lighting spectrum.
Trust me, The roots are as white as a ghost.
Temp of solution is a hair high but the hydroguard seems to be doing it's job.
Res was changed after 10 days... So, Wednesday...
My only complaint is it seems a little slower than my last couple of grows but it is a new system, piping and all.
I tried the scrog. My room was designed for 1 plant, then I made it for 3 and now I am running 5 which is my legal limit. It was built for this purpose. The reality of it is - I just cannot fit or reach back far enough to tuck the branches under in the back of the room. I still have a couple ounces each of the last 5 grows I ran through there... I do not sell or distribute... When this current run is over I'm going to take all my old weed and run it through a bubble bag with some dry ice and make edibles.. I have enough that I am running out of safe places to stash it in my house. So... The whole scrog deal is a bust.
I gave them a giant hair cut / defoliation. At the end of this week, you will never know I did it.
I am going to let them recover and either flip mid week or at the beginning of week 7.
Nothing really new to report or show off. Everything is the same for the most part. 12/12 for 5 days tops. Now it is just a waiting game. And the root systems are gargantuan. Aero is getting bigger pump. hopefully today.
That lonely time between flipping and the start of buds. I would say 9 days into 12/12. The stretch is on. I have gave them a trim twice now and will probably thin one more time. I have Lolli Popped the first one and plan on doing 1 or 2 more but not all. A little larf never bothered me. It's all for personal use anyways.
Res is on a 10 day schedule and was last changed Wednesday 4 days back. Next res change will be when I post this Saturday 4/1 - The fan leaves smell like veg but are extremely sticky as I gathered them up to pitch them. I could probably roll a small ball off the resin in my hand just from fan leaves.
Long long ways to go.
Any and all comments welcome - including you are doing it all wrong.... Knock yourself out.
Stretch was a little longer than I expected and more than I am used to or care for as far as current internode length. However, I am keeping an open mind!!! The very few pictures of this version finished that are out there on the internet are keeping me calm and sane. AND I did veg maybe 2 weeks longer than I usually do. Hope the stretch is over but we will have to wait and see. I chose flowering when I posted this week because the nubs of buds are showing. Anyone following along knows I been at 12/12 for 2 weeks +. They are sure drinking up solution and it is not raising my PPM's - so they are eating as much as they are drinking in my book. Changed solution PM of 2 Apr.
And then there were three.
One was an all out hermie. The other had a female flower on one side and a ball or 2 or 3 on the other side all over everywhere, every stem on the plant.
Internode length is anywhere from 4.5 to 7.5 inches depending on where I am measuring it on the plant.
There are no light leaks, Temps, PH, PPM's overall everything is dialed in.
I know they are having great luck with the V2.
I am going to see the remaining 3 to the end.
COPY / PASTE from Etho's Website.
I OWE ETHOS AN APOLOGY !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
MANDARIN COOKIES R1 (ORIGINAL)
FORUM CUT COOKIES x MANDARIN SUNSET
STATS:
Variety: Fem Photo
Flowering Time: 56-63 Days
Yield: High
TAC: 25-30%
TERPENES:
Sharp Grapes
Sweet Citrus
Heavy Chem Dog
FYI:
Original Mandarin Cookies R1 boasts vigorous growth and chunky, high-bract flowers—and intoxicating aromas of citrus and gasoline. She’s quickly becoming a legend.
Strong & Vigorous
Chunky & Dense
Thrives Indoors & Outdoors
Pungent Terpenes
FEATURES:
Medium-long internodes and chunky, high-bract flowers.
Vigorous growth!
Available in packs of 5 or 10.
FEATURES - Medium-LONG internodes....
Just so happens they weren't kidding about the LONG internodes...
Changed res. Wed. Apr 12th - Next res change Sat. Apr 22nd.
Very disappointed with this grow. I plan on seeing it to the end. I'm not going to outright bash ethos just yet but... I stand behind the statement that there are some seed companies out there (Maybe not ethos) who are more interested in pumping this stuff out and fancy pants packaging it, BEFORE they take the time to stabilize the genetics they have created by doing all the back crosses. Just My 2 Cents!!!
Fresh Bud Porn and My Weekly Update
The stretch looks like it is finally over. Trichomes are pouring on. I still will not all out bash Etho's. I am arranging new genetics for the next run. I added a couple powder supplements from Fox Farms. The skunky fruity mix of smell is light at this point. There is something else in the air/smell, and I can't quite put my finger on it just yet. This is suppose to be some fire killer shiz when it is finished. I sure hope so after all the ups and downs, nannas and balls. I guess we will all have to wait and see. Next res change in 10 days - Wed. May 3rd.
27 Apr - Looking a little like I might owe Ethos and their fans a little bit of an apology ...
Have to wait and see. -
Too early to start counting chickens just yet.
I HERE BY APOLOGIZE TO ETHO'S GENETICS !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
This is a copy paste from Etho's wedsite...
MANDARIN COOKIES R1 (ORIGINAL)
FORUM CUT COOKIES x MANDARIN SUNSET
STATS:
Variety: Fem Photo
Flowering Time: 56-63 Days
Yield: High
TAC: 25-30%
TERPENES:
Sharp Grapes
Sweet Citrus
Heavy Chem Dog
FYI:
Original Mandarin Cookies R1 boasts vigorous growth and chunky, high-bract flowers—and intoxicating aromas of citrus and gasoline. She’s quickly becoming a legend.
Strong & Vigorous
Chunky & Dense
Thrives Indoors & Outdoors
Pungent Terpenes
FEATURES:
Medium-long internodes and chunky, high-bract flowers.
Vigorous growth!
Available in packs of 5 or 10.
OK OK AND OK - I want everyone to know that it is my Fault - but face it... Almost all of us, especially me, are stoners...
THE THING YOU NEED TO KNOW THE MOST... at the bottom of the copy paste description - - -MEDIUM to LONG INTERNODE LENGTHS !!!!!!!!!! THEY ARE NOT KIDDING!!!!! That is FIRST...
SECOND - and I DONT CARE - - This exact one is "Slightly" Unstable as far as male, female, balls and bananas - --- "SLIGHTLY !!!
For an - Intermediate Level Grower... You are going to do just fine with this exact seed.
I would NOT recommend this for a beginner or newbie.
That aside - The main update for this week would be - Holy Cow - This stuff REEKS... In a GOOD WAY...
CHANGED RES - 5/3/2023 - Next Change 5/13/2023
Building a little, they look more like Golf Balls than Donkey Dings. - Hurry up and wait. - 10 Days of Res means change on the very next post/Saturday. My plan at this point is to go 10 weeks of flower. I will be getting the scope out and have some early trichome pictures up during the week coming up with editing and addition here.
3 plants. Front and Back ones are not really stacking. Middle one seems to be. I probably stay away from Ethos for quite awhile. Still plan on going 10 weeks total. I could probably harvest now, I like mine with a little more amber.
I actually don't care and if so thank fuck you fast buds because help I get on this site is class thanks all for everything love look through and trying to learn while we talking about seed banks where is best mac 1 seeds sold to try
I guess they could be slightly stacking. Irregular at best. Just have to wait and see. That solution was 225 ML in 30 Gallons of H2O. It still only registered 600 on the BlueLab stick with all the little blue lights like a drag race tree. Next week I will "Drought" them until they just barely start to wilt and then the following week hopefully flush them and hopefully be done.
I had internode lengths of 8 and 1/2 inches. Best taste and best smell I ever had... Just average buzz.. Nothing Fancy or Special about the high...
Would not recommend - would not grow again... I would not grow Etho's seeds again if they were given to me for free... If they ever become the last seed company on earth, my growing days are over... Too bad... They sure have lots of fancy packaging and some real pretty names for their products...
My 2 cents for what it's worth. (Nothing)
Sorry to see this girl drop nuts again. My smoke was so good but I think I'm going to have to leave this one alone after seeing your big beauty. Your plant looks healthy so I'm sure you'll find another gem
@Johnny_0G,
The longer I have to think about your comment and the comments of others. (I have searched far and wide for as much info on this strain as I can - AND It is not just you) .. It sort of makes me mad at Ethos again. - - - - This wasn't ready to be unleashed on the public with all the intersex issues and the huge internode length not being worked out by the cross backs.
So yea... I think I'm pissed at Ethos again.😠😡😠😡
@BogusMonkey,I had to chop everything but the very tops to grow past the pollen and about every 3 days I had to chop off pollen sacks in my mid and lowers. No seeds or problems with the top. It just sucks only getting 25% of your plant to the end
@Johnny_0G,
I tried to send you a PM but I am new to this forum. Just asking for your thoughts which I pretty much think I got. I was sure freaking out at first though with the stretch and the internode length - I am kind of looking forward to the potential quality. After all it's put me through I hope it is killa / fire. AND I hope I have enough room height wise to finish it. I should..
Peace to you - and happy Growing.
@@Billyandbarb, - OMG - The roots, the roots, the roots are on fire... hahaha. Huge improvement in roots. I have to rework things again underneath. Between now and the 20th. Accommodating a bigger pump. Smell is just barely starting. Gave them a giant haircut with a slight lollipop. 2nd day for 12/12... I just couldn't squish them down under a scrog and besides, my room is not big enough for me to get my F-tAs -s to the back plants, cant effectively even reach back that far. It is what it is. Thanks for watching and posting.
That sucks man. Ran dozens from ethos.. never had intersex issues. It is a known thing that cookies lines can have intersex issues tho.
That sucks but I’d encourage you to try them again. They put more testing into their shit that 90% of companies out there
I cannot help but suspect that the Calyxes are that swollen because they are all full of seeds.
This grow has been problematic from the start.
I sure hope not. I guess we will know in a few weeks.
I added pump, heater and air bubbler pictures today for you. Maybe the pump should be on a digital timer and only go off for 15 seconds but then time it to go off maybe once every 45 minutes... That will be next... AFTER... - The reflection in the solution is way too bright, I Know... - I got to get it covered with something - That is next...
I will put a couple fresh picts up of the setup itself for week 4 - It should be up on the very first week too. Basically a water fountain pump on a timer with tons of bubbles from a double lined aquarium air pump... Huge stones for the air to diffuse through.
I had to use schedule 40 because almost everything is going to PEX and your not suppose to use metal fittings anywhere with hydro. Timer is not digital. I need to and probably will cover the red lid with reflective contact paper or at least white - needing to further limit the amount of light getting through the red. I was going to go with a watering system that was completely below everything with high pressure and the micro nozzles - My worry was them clogging up and based on the demensions of my room I can not get access totally around everything once my scrog net goes up to change out nozzles if they clog. I have had several runs with a similar system which turned out great.
Week #2 - Second picture with my hand in the way slightly shows the pump connected to the schedule 40... The aquarium heater is not used often at all. I will get better system picts up for week 4.