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Coco Coir
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Week 13
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blackskaarj1 blackskaarj1
a year ago
The plant is unscrogged and the growth is quite dense with July and August left to veg, Im not sure if im going to transplant them into larger containers because it uses alot of water in the geopots but if it gets to hot then they'll need watering more than once per day at some point. 4 plants can drink 60 gallons per day in the geopots and you can grow a really large plant in a 4-5 gallon container, coco is a hydroponic medium like rockwool that can be watered multiple times per day and can grow large in a small amount of medium in comparison to the plant size. There aren't alot of outdoors grow diaries posted but if you see one and you recognize the person or the area, it is public to see but private to visit. There not really here for fun, there here because I need information on this plant. Not all of the people that buy seeds are going to grow them but people do purchase and grow them. As far as the veg time is concerned for these plants outdoors, its probably around 30 days from cutting the clone to transplanting into a larger container and then 30 days vegging under a high PPFD light and another 20+ days to get this kind of height, im not sure about width but it is a little faster with 18 hours of light. As far as eating this plant is concerned, theres to many layers of skin that stretch, it does matter if it breaks anything but the stretch is to high already. If your looking for serotonin or dopamine while your trying to eat this plant thats a doctors visit, you can't really abuse substances on the weekends all of the time without feeling pretty down. If your growing these plants to watch them grow and enjoy, you should be starting them indoors atleast 8 weeks before May in my climate, these plants can grow pretty slow when started from seed. Probably the biggest conclusion with nature and this plant is seeking enjoyment, why would you want to enjoy more than this plant and usually it says more than this plant, especially if its any sort of social gathering. The fact that I enjoy growing this plant is very significant. I haven't talked about pH because I start them at 1ml/gal AB after rooted without pHing and I up it to 2ml/gal AB 2ml/gal Pro Cal pHed to yellow or yellowish green testing with pH drops after there well rooted in small containers and then I transplant again into larger containers, so I am always pHing the solution but it does grow without doing that but you might get crinkly leaves, its something I don't really know alot about. Its looks like this for pHing but not all water is the same 25g 2ml ab/procal - 26.5ml new ph down 35g 2ml ab/procal - 33ml new ph down 50g 2ml ab/procal - 64ml ph down 53ml new ph down 55g 2ml ab/procal - 70.7 ml ph down 60ml new ph down 70g 2ml ab/procal - 90ml ph down 75ml new ph down 70g 5ml ab/procal - 118.5ml ph down 100ml new ph down = yellow 65g 5ml ab/procal - 110ml ph down 92ml new ph down 70g 6ml ab/procal - none required. Im writing alot of things down but thats the point, it isn't a social enough of a substance. Or I wasn't interested enough to talk to anyone using this plant. All it says is that you need to study something else for that. Also after looking at these photos do you feel like buying the most expensive camera as in feeling like you need more than 12.6 MP, Id like to see more detail in the images and better colors and fluidity of the images. I think its a close resemblance to the scene that the pixels are portraying but I think it could be a better image. Im only mislocating myself in this climate, it does get to cold and that means the imagery is effecting how im located. I did have strong winds and unfortunately you do need more stakes to keep these plants supported, so what I used the one year that I grew these before outdoors is that I used rebar and I pulled it in multiple directions to keep the rebar from falling over and I then tied all of the large branches to it and that worked but the bamboo that Im using is very flexible so it probably needs alot of them to hold the plants in place. A nice thing about a greenhouse is that you can tie the plants to the frame and they don't fall over. Making cages out of fence also works for keeping them supported but mostly your needing a long piece of rigid material to grow them large and supported and that means it makes sense to grow them smaller. So were not able to progress to 13 weeks of veg without investing in support material. Ive yet to find a more difficult plant to photograph, it needs a greenhouse or a ton of stakes, it can't grow beautifully without a frame. Ive been thinking about this plant alot and id mostly rather keep seeds long term than the original plant because it is probably a few hundred dollars to keep it long term and that might be worth it financially for some people but the way the industry looks like right now it doesn't make alot of sense to buy seeds for cloning from a keeper plant. It says this is whats left of the breeding thats been done and we need seeds but not above average plants. There might not be alot of personal feelings about the plant unless its being used for something and it makes sense to rebuy seeds if you want to see that particular variety again, you can easily keep a few strains going but why bother if you can rebuy the seeds. You can start a pack of seeds and clone from those plants but if your looking for a special clone that you like in particular your probably revegging the plant because it can take alot of seeds to find a pheno that was twice as frosty as the others, unless its alot of people working on a few plants each and its kind of a huge amount of time spent on a few plants. Its easier to start another pack than it is to keep a particular plant long term. If I had 4 phenos 1 was 17%, another 21%, next one was 30% and the last one was 39% and I cloned each one and I like the 17% because the other ones were to strong but I didn't test them and I didn't know what they were.
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Todzilla
Todzillaweek 19
Drive your stakes into the ground.
blackskaarj1
blackskaarj1
@Todzilla,yhea you can pull the rebar with lawn staples probably I like using rock, you can hold the rebar in with a lawn staple if its not in super deep but I could probably hammer it in as deep as the container, I think that for photography purposes the rock explains the plant, its like the sands of time unfolding before you, you can't explain why something so large is so small yet so many times larger.
Todzilla
Todzilla
@blackskaarj1,I use lawn staples in rocky hard soil and it works for stabilization quite well. The staples are the lowest cost and easiest to install. I also have used bamboo, stakes, and rebar. They all work for wind. You just gotta get it done.
blackskaarj1
blackskaarj1
@Todzilla,no you can't use lawn staples you need to take a piece of rebar hammer it into the ground and then put a long piece in and your likely to either hit up against another rock or it'll work or not at all.
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AsNoriu
AsNoriuweek 22
lovely place to grow and VERY nice grow !
HAPPY91
HAPPY91week 20
Gonna get an amazing yield with those beautiful girls. Keep up the amazing progress I hope for strong happy and healthy plants cheers!!!
Northern_Ent
Northern_Entweek 17
Hey, you can get a magnifying glass app for your phone that works good enough to see trichomes. No need for a loupe or physical magnifier. Can get good bud pics easily, even using an old phone.
BudBoutique
BudBoutiqueweek 27
What an nice outdoor grow so far - good job and well done 🤝 never did outdoor myself.  Happy Growing & cant wait for your upcoming weeks 🌱 Cheers, Bud Boutique 👩‍🌾
Dabking
Dabkingweek 27
Looking good. Keep it up!
KingSalomonsWeed
KingSalomonsWeedweek 5
Viel Glück.
Hattiwatti
Hattiwattiweek 27
Nice grow 👌
Grisly
Grislyweek 27
Wow
Crashoverite
Crashoveriteweek 25
Very nice garden mate 👌✨🍀✌️💚
blackskaarj1
blackskaarj1week 27
I did feel that not having any structures or roads in the way of the plants as they grow is better visually, the material that the plants are up against affects how you feel about them. Its better than landscaping that you would normally see, its better. I do encounter alot of wildlife though, its definitely there to see. Its my experience vs your idea of what is supposed to be enjoyable and that means I couldn't imagine it being a good idea for August and September because of the fire season but that is what im looking at.