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Rockstar Clones from Bonsai to Outdoors.

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Coco Coir
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blackskaarj1 blackskaarj1
a year ago
At 11:30 am two of the plants are in the shade, at 11:40 am there is only one plant left in the shade and by 11:50 am all of the plants are unshaded. Its nice that they are pruned, theres about 6+ nodes on all of the branches and basically what happens here is that there easier to work with during flowing but it isn't necessary but it is always done if there are mite problems in the interior of the plants but that wasn't the problem at all, the problem is that they look better unpruned from the perspective that there visually stimulating to look at. One of the reasons to prune is that at harvest it is additional work to clean up the really small sizes, and with the amount of pruning ive done theres still going to be alot of small sizes that you could only run through a trimming machine or use for hash and it usually is alot to throw out and alot of people think that. They're starting to get light at about 3pm so it is a good idea to water twice per day or increase the size of the container, i'll be adding trays to hold more water for the morning waterings and thats how 10 gallon containers work when you grow large plants in them. 11-12 weeks for veg on 10 gallon containers would be preferred. The battery on my phone isn't that great, the photos aren't exactly what im looking at so that part is better but they are good, I think that if your planning on purchasing a new phone id buy a more expensive model if your using it for photography. I do know that the highest resolution cameras you can buy are very expensive, so those are usually not being used but if you can afford them you can purchase those aswell because cannabis is one of those plants that is photographed and viewed. The Xiaomi 13 Ultra isn't going to be as good for close flower photos as a Huawei P60 Pro but there are other phones with good cameras and some of them are more affordable. It took 5% battery life on my cell phone to take and upload 11 additional photos and I think that does mean that you would like to purchase a more expensive phone but it is enough battery life to take photos. The images on the Huawei P60 Pro are very realistic looking, you can see alot of detail but in these images it looks green on black whereas in reality its all detailed. I do one log with this camera and then its like theres only so many people that can work and afford an expensive camera, it doesn't mean that I can show it. Ive only got a couple bags of used coco left to use to upsize the pots and im not spending anymore on these plants for medium unless its really important. The reality is that if you can't get any seeds you can't get any plants and if there not heirloom varieties and there making them available for the next 100 years I don't know where the seeds are coming from or what they do. Its feels like a pretty small project that could be a huge amount of work. With forest fire smoke in the air and the one male Alien OG plant being significantly smaller than the two largest females I am unsure how it will effect the the next generation of progeny but im assuming cannabis has survived with its genes intact for a very long time like this, it hasn't always been the best male plant. It doesn't matter if the Rockstar plant is the same pheno of the current plant after breeding because you'd need to keep the clone for a thousand years to keep the same plant. If you make 2000 seeds there used up after a few years by various people and they continue to the next generation of progeny, it doesn't matter if you made 30,000 seeds because there not necessarily better after 100 years. These really are about seeing the detail in grass and camera quality, I can see detail between containers but as soon I look at the ferns the detail isn't there, your really seeing the image quality degrade at a certain distance, id like to see the detail in the entire image at this image size. Theres a certain level of clarity in the image that you can see in more expensive cameras that this camera isn't showing. The Huawei P60 showed a really realistic amount of detail even when compared, its expensive to make these phones affordable with decent cameras so it definitely is not a low level of image quality. There is a small difference in seeing the leaves from a distance, your obviously not able to see the detail but if you liked to see larger than 12.6 MP you would be spending alot more again. One of problems with the height on these plants at this point is that if they grow another 27 inches and they stretch another 24 inches, they would end up close to 9 feet tall and thats where you don't necessarily want to grow plants this tall because there is alot of support needed. The netting probably would of needed to be extended larger and I also need to move them around to get more sunlight after the stretch period but I can keep growing them in this position and not move them around. For complications on pruning for example I counted on one large branch 5 long branches 1 that was 3" and then 6 nodes, so if I only wanted those 6 nodes id remove the 5 long branches and possibly the 3" branch but they don't do that outdoors, its something ive only seen done indoors because I know that they only wanted to trim the 6 nodes and you can handtrim those 5 long branches but anything smaller than that is going to take a very long time to work on. Another branch below the 5 small nodes or 6 nodes theres a 3", 4" and 7" branch and then some longer branches below those have 7 node sites and thats where if its a ton growing you could leave the 5 or 6 nodes and remove all the lower branching and thats what they would hang up for harvesting, now I can't say that those lower branches aren't additional yield because they usually leave those branches. Another branch is 4 nodes and then 5 and 6 nodes are 2" long so those might of been pruned and another branch has like two really large long branches at the bottom but inbetween are really spindly and im not sure if you would prune those really solid long branches and the spindly or only the spindly and leave only the top 4 nodes or maybe 5 and 6. You would be pruning a significant amount of the plant doing that. Those longer branches are pretty hard to prune looking at them because the flower size can be handtrimmed, it would really be thinning out the canopy quite alot. If I pruned each large branch down to 4, 5 or 6 nodes and not including the 6-12 node range there would be alot of hand trimming but if you grew a plant that size and the buds filled out to a large size 4-5-6-12 looked good to trim on the plant. If you remove the fan leaves in the first week of flower for example you can prune 6-12 easily because there being covered up on this plant but on some of the larger branches there long enough or I could prune them in veg but it would be more difficult with the large fan leaves. Walking by the plant it looks better leaving 6-12 and thats why I don't want to prune them at all. It was cloudy and not the warmest of weather so I put on a long sleeve shirt and I pruned about another 1/4-1/2 5 gallon bucket full of leaves and stems from the interior and any branching that wasn't quite reaching to the top canopy level and that brought me down to about 7-9 nodes per branch without counting each individual branch or removing any large branch from the plant. On the autoflower plant there is 1-3 and 1-4 flowers on the side branching and I only would really want to handtrim the end flower but I didn't prune them, so the theory is that on the Rockstar plants I could prune anything that is spaced enough that wouldn't form into a fullsize flower but that is alot of additional pruning and there isn't anything that shows that the flowers are larger on a pruned plant If you pruned 2-4 there isn't anything saying that 1 is larger because of that. The largest size was unpruned in smartpots and they were only receiving 1 side of light from a vertical bulb, the mites work on the interior leaves and thats usually a good reason to prune it. If you had a 1000 of these and you told a group of 60 people to prune to 4-6 nodes it would be alot of work to do. If you paid your workers 100 per plant, it would cost 100k and you'd be left with maybe 400k for nutrients and obviously your middle aged and your not making enough to pay more than few people to work. When there smaller plants your using a gallon per plant per day but right now your using double and maybe triple that amount so its almost impossible for the water table if theres a drought unless your connected to a huge reservoir and theres no way to determine if you are without trying. You can buy 10,000 gallon storage tanks but thats only good for a few days. 375,000 gallons is 30 feet in diameter and 72 feet high or 40 feet in diameter and 40 feet high, and that kind of makes it impossible to do anything more than hobby growing unless theres a large body of fresh water and those are some of the reasons why they don't do it. Any similar or more complicated substances that were possible to make in the pharmaceutical industry were better than Cannabis for many reasons but some of them had some problems because they were only for research purposes, so there were thoughts that water conservation was the only possible solution to crop failures as in they didn't take any of the substances at all and there were discussions that this looks like a nice plant and it needs to pruned. The data shows that were so close to starving from our food supply that we can't have fun at all. Growing this plant is sort of fun but its mostly educational but it doesn't get an education because its not a really smart plant. Its easy to setup driplines with hole punches but the actual chemistry in making fertilizer is complicated and anything to do with plastic molds and building lighting systems is complicated. For 1000 plants you need pretty thick pipe and a 1000-4000gph+ inline pump depending on the dripper size, there might be a Venturi injection system before the filter with a valve to stop the flow of water so it only runs through the Venturi injection system and then after the filter it runs to the smaller lines and your drippers run off of those, it does look like they made it for trade installation but it is do it yourself aswell, theres a Venturi system possibly but if your organic you might not use one of those, theres definitely a pressure gauge and pressure release valves. You can use a smaller pump size if you put in valves to shut down different partitions of the garden. Im not sure what the ratio is for fertlizer injection into a system per 1000 gallons an hour, it might be 6 litres of AB mixed into a container with water and then injected into the system at a ratio, so if it was 1 gallon of fertlizer per 100 gallons of water than that 1 gallon would be 600ml of each A and B and additionally pro cal at 500ml, something like that or it might be 1 gallon mixed per 16 gallons as in 100ml AB in 1 gallon or 62 gallons with 6 litres AB. Im not sure if they use those because you need ph injection for water aswell but maybe that can be mixed into a Venturi or something similar, its probably a more expensive injection system in those expensive facilities. It would be expensive to buy 20,000 gallons of coco and 10,000 galllon water tanks that are mixed with pumps instead of fertilizer injection. If a plant takes up 16 square feet and if there are tall ceilings its probably 6000+ square feet of space that you would need or a 100x100 structure or maybe 200x100, a huge amount of space is needed to do that. They would use flat and boring landscape to do that because anything structure related is in the way of the scenery, in the US they don't really build in parks and theres not alot of forest so they build away from the park but some states are somewhat nicer, its really not as many trees as in its a small area in comparison and not populated. I did read that they said that you should use a separate injection system for each fertilizer because they can't be mixed together even though there not as concentrated as the label says and the more expensive systems did look better and it does look like someone else would set those up, there is complications with knowing what exactly to do with the pipes and valves. The day before week 16 its raining quite alot and thats the kind of weather that you can see quite alot of in September but also it happens in August, I like that the autoflower plant is finishing early but these plants are somewhat artistic or autistic to grow or both depending on how you look at it. (I was thinking about the pruning part alot during veg and I do think it is a better experience not pruning these plants, its visually to strong to prune them outdoors, you can but the part of the brain that it uses is quite demanding visually meaning that it really doesn't like seeing them pruned and that could be one of the problems with locating a population because it says it needs to see the dense growth.)
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Todzilla
Todzillaweek 19
Drive your stakes into the ground.
blackskaarj1
blackskaarj1
@Todzilla,yhea you can pull the rebar with lawn staples probably I like using rock, you can hold the rebar in with a lawn staple if its not in super deep but I could probably hammer it in as deep as the container, I think that for photography purposes the rock explains the plant, its like the sands of time unfolding before you, you can't explain why something so large is so small yet so many times larger.
Todzilla
Todzilla
@blackskaarj1,I use lawn staples in rocky hard soil and it works for stabilization quite well. The staples are the lowest cost and easiest to install. I also have used bamboo, stakes, and rebar. They all work for wind. You just gotta get it done.
blackskaarj1
blackskaarj1
@Todzilla,no you can't use lawn staples you need to take a piece of rebar hammer it into the ground and then put a long piece in and your likely to either hit up against another rock or it'll work or not at all.
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AsNoriu
AsNoriuweek 22
lovely place to grow and VERY nice grow !
HAPPY91
HAPPY91week 20
Gonna get an amazing yield with those beautiful girls. Keep up the amazing progress I hope for strong happy and healthy plants cheers!!!
Northern_Ent
Northern_Entweek 17
Hey, you can get a magnifying glass app for your phone that works good enough to see trichomes. No need for a loupe or physical magnifier. Can get good bud pics easily, even using an old phone.
BudBoutique
BudBoutiqueweek 27
What an nice outdoor grow so far - good job and well done 🤝 never did outdoor myself.  Happy Growing & cant wait for your upcoming weeks 🌱 Cheers, Bud Boutique 👩‍🌾
Dabking
Dabkingweek 27
Looking good. Keep it up!
KingSalomonsWeed
KingSalomonsWeedweek 5
Viel Glück.
Hattiwatti
Hattiwattiweek 27
Nice grow 👌
Grisly
Grislyweek 27
Wow
Crashoverite
Crashoveriteweek 25
Very nice garden mate 👌✨🍀✌️💚
blackskaarj1
blackskaarj1week 27
I did feel that not having any structures or roads in the way of the plants as they grow is better visually, the material that the plants are up against affects how you feel about them. Its better than landscaping that you would normally see, its better. I do encounter alot of wildlife though, its definitely there to see. Its my experience vs your idea of what is supposed to be enjoyable and that means I couldn't imagine it being a good idea for August and September because of the fire season but that is what im looking at.