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Blueberry Auto- Platinum Seeds
Skywalker Auto - Platinum Seeds
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weeks 3-4
Defoliation
weeks 3-7
2%
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Grow medium
18.927 l
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Blueberry Day 49
Blueberry Day 49
Skywalker Day 49
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Week 7
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55.88
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18 hrs
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Day 49 Flushing again today. I tried giving a stronger nute solution incase the starving was that but alas, runoff numbers showed it is still in lockout. PH and ppm before flush for Skywalker pH 5.61 and ppm 7.37 and before flush for Blueberry pH5.75 and ppm 737. Did a crazy amount of flushing but used tap water even though my tapwater pH is 8.2 as I was not spending an entire day using ph down in buckets. Once felt they were flushed enough, I used 2 gallons of R/O water per plant for final flush. I then took a fellow growers advice on here, Thank you @NegotiatedBubble, and gave them a light feeding even though I knew it would wash mostly out just to get them started in the right direction. Into tent, Runoff pH 6.55 and ppm 238 for Skywalker and forgot to record Blueberry but she was very similar.
Day 50 Woke up to such a bad looking plant I did something very drastic and gave them a LIGHT watering of 1/2 strength nutes ppm of 650 and pH of 6.3. I did not get runoff just wanting to stop them from cannabilizing themselves if I can. See above pics. All of that happened since my watering yesterday.
Day 53 Watered to Runoff with 12ml/gal of Sensi Bloom A and B. Still seeing that weird issue where after mixing I get 5.83 pH which is NOT pH perfect so I adjusted pH to 6.2 and ppm were 964. Skywalker still looking like total crap now. Blueberry has some damage but not nearly as severe. I has to be these nutes . I even emailed the company and asked them about the pH issue since it says on the bottle and the grow store people told me I did not have to check pH when using so my dumb *ss did not and that has to be whey these issues started. I am slowly corrcting them but I am afraid the damage has already severely lessened my crop. Skywalker runoff pH 5.5 and ppm 819. Blueberry runoff pH 5.8 and ppm 819. Next 2 waters will be no feed and we will see how that goes. ( So I did a little experiment after this and found out not only do my nutes pH lower than they are supposed to but when I take some of my FFOF directly from bag and run a slurry test the pH is low there as well. Website says the soil pH in the low 6 range yest my soil is mid 5 range and obviously not good. Next grow there will have to be some changes.)
Day 54 I THINK the damage is not progressing but I am not sure. I defoliated a bunch of the damage from skywalker. I was afraid to take all the damaged leaves as she will soon be without any if I do!
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CannaMom2started grow question 2 years ago
Is that yellow on the cotyledon leaf normal? 2 days post sprouting and that one had helmut head the first day. I was able to remove seed pod by lightly lifting the edge of it with tweezers.
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Leaves. Color - Yellow
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Sciolistic_Steveanswered grow question 2 years ago
i'd wager the soil might be a little hot for the seedling, but it seems to be hangin in there. reducing VPD with the dome during seedling stage helps reduce how much the little plant draws up from the soil. so you are doing what you can to reduce it already. (still have to harden it off, but it'll be fine)
did something with fertilizer possibly drip on the leaf? another possiblity.
it looks fine though. make sure it isn't progressing and if not the cause has abated.
CannaMom2started grow question 2 years ago
Should I keep domes off or put them back on? 2 day old Skywalker and Blueberry Autos. Tent temps stay between 70-77 with an occassional spike to 80 if heater runs a little longer on that particular cycle. Humidity between 55-70 again dependent on if heater is on its on cycle.
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Setup. Strain - Autoflowering
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massivetidsanswered grow question 2 years ago
Hello CannaMom, domes are only for clones! When you grow from seeds you do not want to use domes because you want the roots to suck up water from the soil and the leaves to evaporate the water so that the roots are able to suck up more water up again. This is nature's way to transport water inside the plant. You should see the water (with nutrients) like a pearl necklace, all the water drips are attached to each other. And the leaves need to evaporate water to stay cool and while evaporating the roots will be able to suck up more water because of the created vacuum inside the plant. Nature is a beautiful thing! Enjoy your grow!
CannaMom2started grow question a year ago
Anyone have any ideas on how to help my blueberry girl? She is so short and she has a ton of new growth very tightly spaced together under the big leaves.
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Plant. Too short
Plant. Spaces between nodes
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Sciolistic_Steveanswered grow question a year ago
if it isnt a dwarf, light intensity is the key here. reduce it.
node spacing dictates light intensity. too tight? needs less.
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love_2_growcommentedweek 02 years ago
resimaxcommentedweek 02 years ago
Good luck and happy growing!
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NegotiatedBubblecommentedweek 12 years ago
Great notes. It is hard to find diaries with notes around here. Once you get the basics down, I recommend the video "Maximizing Cannabis Yields with Dr Bruce Bugbee". It is a great overview of all of the inputs for cannabis and what works. He is the director of the Crop Physiology Laboratory at Utah State University which has been growing cannabis for quite a while.
As a side note, I have been documenting my battle with crazy temps and RH along with the creation of a Lung Room. You may (or may not) find something useful there. I also publish a list of my Grow Goals for every week and you (and anybody else) are welcome to pirate that.
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NegotiatedBubblecommented2 years ago
@CannaMom2, the bulb is way more economical
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CannaMom2commented2 years ago
@NegotiatedBubble, Thanks! I have one of those in my amazon cart. I decided to try the heat emitter bulb first and setting it up the way I describe in my journal is working fantastic! I will need the oil radiator for sure this winter though.
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NegotiatedBubblecommented2 years ago
@CannaMom2, Check out an (electrically powered) oil filled radiator heater. The oil stays hot in between switching on and off, so it is a more consistent heat.
For sprouting seed in cold ambient conditions, I place a container in a water bath and then use a aquarium heater to warm the water bath.
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NegotiatedBubblecommentedweek 6a year ago
I have recently switched to using the PourThrough method in order to monitor for pH lock and also monitor for overfeeding. PourThrough was created by the University of North Carolina for use in plant nurseries.
Pour-Through Extraction Procedure
content․ces․ncsu․edu/the-pour-through-extraction-procedure-a-nutrient-management-tool-for-nursery-crops
Cannabis Business Times also has a great article on how to use it. The write up also has recommendations for nutrient strengths.
Recommended Fertilization Rate and PourThru EC by Crop Stage
cannabisbusinesstimes․com/article/optimizing-electrcal-conductivity-ec
One for pH
Research Results: Optimal pH for Cannabis
cannabisbusinesstimes․com/article/new-research-results-optimal-ph-for-cannabis/
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CannaMom2commenteda year ago
@NegotiatedBubble, thank you for the explanation. My tap water has a very high pH which is why I use R/O in my grow. Flushing those two plants was a nightmare as everything says to use proper pH'd water and I cannot produce that much R/O quickly with my setup. Took me all day and I was worried I should have done even more flushing. I do not want to ever deal with that again if I can help it. I know it is recommended to flush at the end of a grow but that I can plan for. Do you remove all damaged leaves when you have an issue like this?
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NegotiatedBubblecommenteda year ago
@CannaMom2, correct. Leachate/extraction are the same terms as run-off. I think "leachate" occurs more in science literature. I typically feed and produce 10-20% run off from the feeding solution. Then, I let 2 hours pass. After 2 hours, I perform the Pour-Through method to measure and test the leachate from the PourThrough. I log the numbers in a spreadsheet so I can look at an ongoing graph.
Testing that initial 10-20% feeding run-off is also an acceptable way to monitor things. Just subtract the feeding EC from the run-off EC and note the difference.
Pour-Through is more work, but is supposed to be more consistent that the latter method and the recommendations are far less vague. I have been overfeeding throughout most of my grows, so this next one I am feeding a lower EC nutrient solution each watering and using Pour-Though to track EC build up. The nutrients accumulate in the soil and the plants then feed from that store.
Cannabis plants will quickly bounce back from overfeeding. Luckily they can tolerate a lot of fertilizer abuse. This is the annoying reason why nutrient manufacturers have crazy high feeding recommendations. It sells more nutes.
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CannaMom2commenteda year ago
@NegotiatedBubble, Thanks again! You always have such good information when I post problems. I read all 3 articles and was hoping you could clarify for me. Science was never my best subject, LOL! Husband however is a scientist so I can also ask him but he can't grow anything. My grow tent is a mystery to him. When they say pour through extraction and leachate. Do they mean what we refer to as run-off? Since my issues, I am watering to runoff and then collecting that water to sample with my pH and ppm/tds/ec meter. I am worried my ladies won't bounce back. That might just devastate me as they have been doing so well and looking so pretty.
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NegotiatedBubblecommentedweek 6a year ago
I would also perform a maintenance flush if you have not in a while. Make sure to feed normal strength nutrients again immediately after that flush. This is my standard first step when diagnosing any nutrient or lock out issues.
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NegotiatedBubblecommenteda year ago
@CannaMom2, yes - I would feed them some more nutes. Usually nitrogen is the first to be flushed away and that is the quickest to replenish after a flush.
I do remove damaged leaves with the exception of yellow leaves. Yellow leaves (nitrogen) will become green again. For other nutrients, the leaves will never recover and need to be removed for monitoring purposes.
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CannaMom2commenteda year ago
@NegotiatedBubble, I did not feed after flush as the sites I found said not to until they dried again. I felt that was a bad idea but since I have no experience I did it as I read. The ladies definitley suffered more those 3 days with no food. I did feed half strength nutes a few days ago and I think I may be able to water them today so should I do another half strength of the nutes or just regular water?
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NCbudcommentedweek 12 years ago
Off to a nice start! Loads of help on here if your needing it (or just not sure about certain bits)
Hope they do nicely for you! Good luck 👍
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NCbudcommented2 years ago
@CannaMom2, best way I find is just crack on with what feels right then you can get a bit of a baseline for what works with the strains you have then tinker about from there! And keep an eye on your leaves, they will tell you everything about how the plant is responding to what your doing with her 👍, and always remember it's a weed!! It's gonna try and grow wherever it can we just need to bring the best out of them! 🙂
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CannaMom2commented2 years ago
@NCbud, Thank you, I have been researching like crazy. I don't think I had to learn this much to raise either of my teens! LOL I definitely need to use more soil next time. First time ever using a fabric pot and I underestimated the settling after first water and just wet/dry environment.
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NegotiatedBubblecommentedweek 4a year ago
Congrats in hitting VPD. Does the AC Infinity auto adjust the RH to achieve target VPD?
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CannaMom2commenteda year ago
@NegotiatedBubble, yes. I have the controller 69 pro. The RH auto adjusts using the settings I input into my controller. I set my humidifier port up with the vpd trigger of high 1.1kPa and turned the low off since I wanted them to stay between .9kPa and 1.2kPa. I then set my buffer vpd at .2kPa and it has been so easy! It did take me a few tries to figure out how to set it up on the controller. Ac infinity controller 69 pro is awesome but not super intuitive at times. I did not try using the humidifiers onboard settings since I have the controller 69 pro and I knew it had the vpd triggers. I know the humidifer itself came with its own humidity sensor probe and it has onboard settings for humidity and schedule timing but as I said I like the controller 69 pro as it keeps everything right on my phone and so easy to adjust if I didn't dial something in just right. If i need more than 4 ports I am so going to get a second controller. They are awesome!
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NegotiatedBubblecommentedweek 3a year ago
Inducing plant stretch:
“When plants perceive a high amount of far-red, they panic … they need to do one of two things: get tall fast to get into the light or get bigger to capture more light.”
Far-red: The Forgotten Photons, Dr. Bruce Bugbee
www.youtube.com/watch
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