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weeks 4-8, 11
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Grow medium
Coco Coir
Grow medium
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Week 3
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UnorthadoxDude UnorthadoxDude
10 months ago
Hello growmies! Welcome to week three of An Epsilon Adventure! Week three already! These six ladies were each planted into their final 30l pots, fertigated for the first time, and put under the light two weeks ago. As you know if you have been following, last week I switch to full nutes earlier than planned as I was seeing deficiencies. Those deficiencies progressed quicker than the plants could respond to the new nutrition. To combat this I fertigated them more frequently and with more volume, as you have the option to do in a coco/perlite substrate mix. I have just given them their third full range fertigation after taking todays photos. All in all so far I am blown away by their progress, they are by far and away the most advanced 15 day old plants I've ever grown. I just wish I had started fertigating with everything earlier. I will certainly report back to Shogun that the coco schedule is too slow for the fastest autos. I do not know if there is a record for fastest start to finish result, but if there is this strain needs to compete because it is really, really, REALLY fast. Massive thanks to both Shogun and Royal Queen Seeds for sponsoring this grow. Daily Updates: ### Week 3 Day 1 21:00 9/7 2m/l Start + 2.5ml/l Katana Roots & Zenzym + 1.5ml/l Coco A & Coco B + 1ml/l Zilicon & CalMag + 1m/l PH down - fertigated ~1.5l each In case you are wondering why I am adding start into this mix, it's because my other grows need it still, but I am also starting them on full nutes at 7-8 days to try to avoid the issues you have seen here last week. I decided therefore to just mix one batch up for them all and see how it goes. I really do not think a bit of extra start and roots will bother these girls, but it will make the difference for the others. With a 10l watering can as my only watering tool, part-mixes are highly error prone as I found out last grow series with Queen Citronella and the poisoning incident, and if I mixed up two batches I have to throw most of one away with a + b nutes such as this they don't store for very long once mixed. Anyway the colour is looking better in the new growth and they haven't missed a beat in terms of piling on greenery and height, I think these six girls are going to really put this "50-70cm" claim to the test. ### Week 3 Day 3 20:30 11/7 Photographed. ### Week 3 Day 5 11:00 13/7 2m/l Start + 2.5ml/l Katana Roots & Zenzym + 2ml/l Coco A & Coco B + 1ml/l Zilicon & CalMag + 1m/l PH down - fertigated ~3l each Today for the first time since I planted them up I moved everything out of the tent, and while I did so I inspected and photographed each girl. I found one aphid on one of the plants, which I tried to kill but it evaded my sausage fingers. So I sprayed all 6 plants with Neudorff BugFree. I made the stupid mistake of bringing in a sad little pepper plant for a bit of a boost, I obviously didn't check it. I will keep an eye on it but if the spray doesn't kill them then I will go and find some ladybird larvae. These are all pretty close to each other but I am starting to see two phenos. One is taller the other is thicker. See for yourself! Plants 1-4 are the slimmer/taller plants 5 and 6 are chonkier. I also labelled each plant and will note which plant is which in future photographs as you can follow an individual plant if you like. Anyway these girls are insane . Look at the size and development; 19 days!!!! Tallest is 40cm (plant 1) Shortest is 27cm (plant 6) Lastly, I have been keeping a decent handle on the temps it is now extremely rare for them to exceed 30 degrees unless there is a heatwave, which I sincerely hope there is not. I'll see you in a couple of days to round off this incredible week. ### Week 3 Day 6 23:00 14/7 Photographed wide shot. Really inspected each plant again and I am confident the only deficiency is magnesium. I checked the runoff PH it is sitting somewhere around 6.3. I am going to further increase the CalMag to 1.5ml/l ### Week 3 Day 7 23:00 15/7 Photographed individually. Flushed through with 3l of fertigate with increased CalMag dosage to 1.5ml/l which is now 50% above the recommended amount. I have gone off-piste with the nute schedule... be it on my own head I suppose. Fingers crossed. So the symptoms of the Mg def are on all plants but some worse than others, which has made me think perhaps there was some inequality in the distribution of the reused coco vs new amongst the pots. I suspect that maybe I should have rinsed the old coco first. I have had success with flushes in the past, and considering this issue is relatively minor I am not prepared to take them all out and individually flush through with 30l+. Instead I have overwatered them by about double when they were already fairly saturated so about 70% of the fertigate came through as runoff. Below is my current assessment of the different plants: Plant 1 -------- Previously the tallest plant, now only 2nd she current stands at 57cm tall having put on 17cm in the last TWO DAYS. She is one of the least affected by the Mg def. Her stem is about the 4th thickest. Plant 2 -------- The 2nd tallest plant on day 19 is now only third the tallest plant at 52cm, she also has the second thinnest stem. Plant 3 -------- Around the same height as 3 other sisters on day 19, in the last two days this plant has grown to 58cm tall and is now the tallest plant in the series, as well as having by far the thinnest stem. This girl has put on at least 20cm in the last two days. This plant was the 2nd worst Mg def symptoms. Plant 4 -------- The 3rd shortest plant at 47cm, she has the third thickest stem, and seems to be somewhere between the two phenos. This plant is the most affected by the Mg def. Plant 5 -------- Standing at only 40cm but with a really chunky stem and the 2nd thickest this girl is clearly a different pheno to plants 1-3 and 4. Her leaves are much fatter and bigger and her stem is much much thicker than plants 1-4. Plant 6 -------- Last but by no means least is plant 6, this girl is my favourite, though she is the shortest plant standing at only 39cm tall, she has tight internodes, massive fat leaves, and by far and away the thickest stem I have ever seen on a 3 week old plant. Seriously, seriously chonky. Her stem is approximately double the girth of the 2nd thickest (plant 5). I think this girl is going to be the star of the grow and the highest yield. What do you think? Thanks for reading growmies! 👊 ========== Tent: 120cm x 120cm x 180cm Light: 600w HID Elite Dual Spectrum HPS + Angel Wing Reflector Air: 5" duct fan system with carbon filter ~300 m3/hour + RAM 9" floor fan + 4" intake fan Pots: Air Pruner Fabric Pots 30l - UGro XL Coco + horticultural grade perlite (~20%) Seeds supplied by Royal Queen Seeds https://www.royalqueenseeds.com Nutrients supplied by Shogun Fertilisers https://www.shogunfertilisers.com/en ==========
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NeoCat
NeoCatweek 6
Geez, what have shogun been putting in your bottles?! They've stretched so much 😮 Hope the buds fill out 😎 they look frosty already!
UnorthadoxDude
UnorthadoxDude
@NeoCat, regarding the buds filling out! Me too!!! They did last time and how! They are probably the most dense auto-flowering buds I have grown yet, so I am expecting big things here!
UnorthadoxDude
UnorthadoxDude
@NeoCat, 😆 all of the plants further into flower have darker leaves. I think I need to back off with the nutes now. Actually I think they nees a flush.
Red_Rockst4r
Red_Rockst4rweek 6
Summer time 😍 Nice grow mate! 👌
UnorthadoxDude
UnorthadoxDude
@Red_Rockst4r, Yes sir! Thanks you! I am really putting some serious effort into this diary. I am going to enter into August Diary of the Month! I want it to be my best grow and best diary so far!
UnorthadoxDude
UnorthadoxDude
@Red_Rockst4r, thanks!!
UnorthadoxDude
UnorthadoxDudeweek 10
I have 5 short videos for this week but the GD website is getting worse and worse, and I have just given up trying to upload them. If you wanna see vids go to my twitter or insta. Same username.
nonick123
nonick123week 10
Vaya colas!
nonick123
nonick123
UnorthadoxDude
UnorthadoxDude
@nonick123, Aha I understand. Perhaps I should learn some Spanish! :D
nonick123
nonick123
@UnorthadoxDude, "colas" es una forma coloquial de decir en español "grandes cogollos" Yo escribo en español, y a veces el traductor de Growdiaries hace cosas raras 🤣
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MedicineMaker
MedicineMakerweek 10
Looking very frosty, amazing flowers my friend! 👏 It looks like you are getting close, when are you planning on the harvest?
UnorthadoxDude
UnorthadoxDude
@MedicineMaker, I will, I think plant 2 is coming down this weekend. I haven't checked trichs for a couple of days, but the smell has changed so I am expecting progress.
MedicineMaker
MedicineMaker
@UnorthadoxDude, Sounding really promising, I'm excited for you! Glad to hear you have the temps and humidity under control. I had about the same as you on my last grow towards the end, I'm being patient and waiting 4 weeks of cure before I test. Best of luck and keep me updated! 👊
UnorthadoxDude
UnorthadoxDude
@MedicineMaker, the fade started on what's left of plant 2 a couple of days ago. I am checking trichomes daily with the loupe, but as yet 0% amber. Almost entirely milky/cloudy at the mo. The remaining buds are starting to look really good, but still bulking. I have given up on stealth and am basically running it with the tent door always open and fans blowing in. I leave the dehumidifer on 24/7 and in the tent (closed door when lights out). 18/6 they are on now. Average RH right now is about 45. Temp 28c If I forget to open the tent and blow air in, well the temps hit 35c+. All Epsilon plants are now getting the "flush" product Dragon Force.
Jungian79
Jungian79week 9
Hi, thanks for the kind comments you left a while ago on my Epsilon grow. It looks like there's definitely something in the genetics which makes them stretch under certain circumstances, fertigation maybe? My Epsilon looked very like your plant 3, it's a pity she had to be cut down due to the bud rot. The only thing I would change about my Epsilon grow would have been to not start flushing so soon and to have allowed another couple of weeks at least before cutting. With the curing now done, the smoke is smooth and tasty however not as strong as I would have liked.
Jungian79
Jungian79
@UnorthadoxDude, I agree, leave them another couple of weeks and reassess then. Others have mentioned that the high is more cerebral than body which I found too. Can't comment on how much CBN they can produce the longer they mature but I'd be very interested to hear how it goes for you after harvest.
UnorthadoxDude
UnorthadoxDude
@Jungian79, Hey growmie! Thanks for stopping by, yeah your 95cm plant is the one I referenced in an earlier week. I think I have grown the largest so far in these girls! I am going to leave them as long as I dare. I cut the first grow at day 60, these I am thinking 10-20 more days for the most mature, longer for the others. What do you think? I have heard that if left to get plenty of amber this strain can have body effects, so let us find out! Hopefully I will not be forced to cut anymore early.
Dolfom
Dolfomweek 10
Ça à l'air très bien tout ça, cette variété s étire beaucoup. 👍☮️
UnorthadoxDude
UnorthadoxDude
@Dolfom, It is not supposed to! It is a 50-70cm strain... all the other grows I have seen, including my previous grow the plants stayed under 1m. As far as I am aware, and as far as RQS are aware, these are now all the largest Epsilon F1 plants grown so far. You can only expect such crazy growth with hydro and synthetic nutrition. In soil these plants will not grow so big, or even in organic coco grow. I am only using 600w HPS. I shudder to think what these plants might do with this nutrition, in even larger pots, with a modern LED growlight.
nonick123
nonick123week 9
Una cosecha espectacular a pesar del budrot!
UnorthadoxDude
UnorthadoxDude
@nonick123, fingers crossed! The plant 2 main cola I managed to save all but 2 buds. Was approximately 20g bone dry (warm air dried).
Dolfom
Dolfomweek 9
Quel dommage pour ta plante, mais les autres sont bien là et sacrément givrées. Bravo l'ami 👏👏☮️
UnorthadoxDude
UnorthadoxDude
@Dolfom, yes! If it was to be any plant I am glad it was the smallest. I am now keeping a very very close eye on the inside of the bigger colas as these plants are developing. I have taken steps to increase airflow and reduce humidity.
Coco4CocoPuffs
Coco4CocoPuffsweek 9
Fantastic job my friend 👏
UnorthadoxDude
UnorthadoxDude
@Coco4CocoPuffs, thanks! Disappointed to lose one of the plants to bud rot but at least it was the smallest!
NeoCat
NeoCatweek 8
Sorry to hear about your budrot 😭 it's horrible but hopefully you salvaged enough. Good luck with the hard deadline too, must be stressful. The buds are looking insane! So sparkly 😋 My girls are dry, halfway through trimming. Hopefully give a weight this week 😎
UnorthadoxDude
UnorthadoxDude
@NeoCat, woo I will go check out your diary!
nonick123
nonick123week 8
Tienen unos buenos cogollos! 😍
UnorthadoxDude
UnorthadoxDude
@nonick123, very dense!
MedicineMaker
MedicineMakerweek 8
Look great and plant 3 is just amazing! 👍Awesome work my friend! 👏
UnorthadoxDude
UnorthadoxDude
@MedicineMaker, thanks! I think she has about 2 weeks left!
Dolfom
Dolfomweek 4
Salut, est-ce des plantes automatiques ?? Car je vois qu elle commence à fleurir avec 20 heures de lumière ☮️👍
UnorthadoxDude
UnorthadoxDude
@Dolfom, yes they are automatic, extremely fast F1 hybrid automatic and well spotted also! :)
James
Jamesweek 0
Hey mate, happy growing! Always a pleasure!
UnorthadoxDude
UnorthadoxDude
@James, thank you! Hopefully they do well and we get some nice content here and on other social media.
nonick123
nonick123week 12
Preciosos cogollos!
Red_Rockst4r
Red_Rockst4rweek 10
😍😜👍
DrGreenThumb24
DrGreenThumb24week 9
Shame about the rot I hope you can bring the humidity down and save any issues with the last ones. They look really good!
Natrona
Natronaweek 0
This is wonderful. 🤩
MedicineMaker
MedicineMakerweek 5
Very nice updates this week! 👍 This growth is beyond my expertise in how to handle them, the only thing about not feeding them is they might start showing signs of deficiencies. They are hungry 😀 Maybe just start bending the branches horizontally if there are not too stiff.
MedicineMaker
MedicineMaker
@UnorthadoxDude, I figured it wasn't, just having fun. I would love to have a dedicated grow room.
UnorthadoxDude
UnorthadoxDude
@MedicineMaker, eh not possible right now, maybe soon.
MedicineMaker
MedicineMaker
@UnorthadoxDude, Get rid of the tent all together and hang your light from the ceiling, only if that was possible.😀
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