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weeks 4-8, 11
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Coco Coir
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UnorthadoxDude UnorthadoxDude
a year ago
Hello growmies! Welcome to week four of An Epsilon Adventure! The girls are already transitioning into flower, I will get some photos of that later in the week. Massive thanks to both Shogun and Royal Queen Seeds for sponsoring this grow. Daily Updates: ### Week 4 Day 1 11:00 16/7 Removed some lower growth. ### Week 4 Day 2 23:00 17/7 Tallest plants were showing signs of heat stress so I have raised the light about 30cm more. Unfortunately this now means the lower plants aren't getting as much light as they could, so I have put the cycle back to 20h (I may even increase it). ### Week 4 Day 3 14:00 18/7 Photographed. ### Week 4 Day 3 19:00 18/7 Fertigated 2l. Okay these girls are now starting to concern me a little on the basis that they are supposed to grow to "50-70cm". At just over 3 weeks old the shortest of these girls is 53cm, the tallest (plant 3) is now 76cm tall. The worrying thing is they do not at all look like they are slowing down and as they are just pre-flowering now, the flowering stretch hasn't even started. So I need some genuine advice here now: Do I keep the faith and hope that they don't exceed the space I have? Do I top or super crop them now? These ladies are beastly, at the end of the week I am going to take some individual videos and more photos to really try and capture how magnificently well these girls are doing. I think I may be in the process of growing the biggest Epsilon F1's so far? Exciting to find out! ### Week 4 Day 4 21:00 19/7 James has assured me they wont go much more than 85 so I am not going to mess with them. They are due a defoliation at the end of this week though. Measured each plant as follows: Plant 1: 81cm Plant 2: 75cm Plant 3: 80cm Plant 4: 67cm Plant 5: 59cm Plant 6: 58cm Might photograph later or leave until tomorrow. ### Week 4 Day 5 10:00 20/7 Photographed and measured. Plant 1: 85cm Plant 2: 79cm Plant 3: 81cm Plant 4: 71cm Plant 5: 63cm Plant 6: 63cm So they've all grown about 4cm in about 13 hours, except plant 3 - which seems to have slowed down a lot. The top of plant 3 is also the most advanced looking in terms of pistils. I forgot to take close ups of the preflowers I will do that tomorrow. I have had to raise the light again today and it is now much further away than the younger plants than I would like. So I am thinking about adding a 300w LED into my 4x4. I have another 3 inches I can raise the light on the hangers, after that I can removed the adjustable handers and tie it to the top of the tent... that'll gain me another 4 or 5 inches. If I need to go higher my only option would be to set them up without the tent which is not an option right now. Hopefully they all just stop getting taller now and focus on flowering... but my gut tells me there's more growth to come. Watch this space! ### Week 4 Day 6 15:00 21/7 Measured. Average 10cm growth 29 hours. 😳😳😲 Plant 1: 96cm Plant 2: 89cm Plant 3: 88cm Plant 4: 81cm Plant 5: 73cm Plant 6: 72cm ### Week 4 Day 6 23:00 21/7 Defoliated. Only photographed plants 1 and 2 individually as I was short on time. Some lovely pics though! ### Week 4 Day 7 15:00 22/7 Fertigated. 2l Will photograph and measure later when they've had 24h since training. ### Week 4 Day 7 23:00 22/7 Photographed and measured: Plant 1: 102cm Plant 2: 93cm Plant 3: 89cm Plant 4: 85cm Plant 5: 76cm Plant 6: 75cm Well here we are at the end of week 4 and I am quite shocked by the growth of these girls. This strain averages 50-70cm in height. We have six plants here and every one of them is taller than the average... but would you just look at plant 1? She is a giant! 102cm!! Where will she stop? Next week will see the full transition to flower and we will start to see the bud sites developing. I have no idea at this point what the heights will look like at the end of next week. This is sort of new territory really, they weren't meant to get this big! --- Thanks for reading growmies! 👊 ========== Tent: 120cm x 120cm x 180cm Light: 600w HID Elite Dual Spectrum HPS + Angel Wing Reflector Air: 5" duct fan system with carbon filter ~300 m3/hour + RAM 9" floor fan + 4" intake fan Pots: Air Pruner Fabric Pots 30l - UGro XL Coco + horticultural grade perlite (~20%) Seeds supplied by Royal Queen Seeds https://www.royalqueenseeds.com Nutrients supplied by Shogun Fertilisers https://www.shogunfertilisers.com/en ==========
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NeoCat
NeoCatweek 6
Geez, what have shogun been putting in your bottles?! They've stretched so much 😮 Hope the buds fill out 😎 they look frosty already!
UnorthadoxDude
UnorthadoxDude
@NeoCat, regarding the buds filling out! Me too!!! They did last time and how! They are probably the most dense auto-flowering buds I have grown yet, so I am expecting big things here!
UnorthadoxDude
UnorthadoxDude
@NeoCat, 😆 all of the plants further into flower have darker leaves. I think I need to back off with the nutes now. Actually I think they nees a flush.
Red_Rockst4r
Red_Rockst4rweek 6
Summer time 😍 Nice grow mate! 👌
UnorthadoxDude
UnorthadoxDude
@Red_Rockst4r, Yes sir! Thanks you! I am really putting some serious effort into this diary. I am going to enter into August Diary of the Month! I want it to be my best grow and best diary so far!
UnorthadoxDude
UnorthadoxDude
@Red_Rockst4r, thanks!!
UnorthadoxDude
UnorthadoxDudeweek 10
I have 5 short videos for this week but the GD website is getting worse and worse, and I have just given up trying to upload them. If you wanna see vids go to my twitter or insta. Same username.
nonick123
nonick123week 10
Vaya colas!
nonick123
nonick123
UnorthadoxDude
UnorthadoxDude
@nonick123, Aha I understand. Perhaps I should learn some Spanish! :D
nonick123
nonick123
@UnorthadoxDude, "colas" es una forma coloquial de decir en español "grandes cogollos" Yo escribo en español, y a veces el traductor de Growdiaries hace cosas raras 🤣
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MedicineMaker
MedicineMakerweek 10
Looking very frosty, amazing flowers my friend! 👏 It looks like you are getting close, when are you planning on the harvest?
UnorthadoxDude
UnorthadoxDude
@MedicineMaker, I will, I think plant 2 is coming down this weekend. I haven't checked trichs for a couple of days, but the smell has changed so I am expecting progress.
MedicineMaker
MedicineMaker
@UnorthadoxDude, Sounding really promising, I'm excited for you! Glad to hear you have the temps and humidity under control. I had about the same as you on my last grow towards the end, I'm being patient and waiting 4 weeks of cure before I test. Best of luck and keep me updated! 👊
UnorthadoxDude
UnorthadoxDude
@MedicineMaker, the fade started on what's left of plant 2 a couple of days ago. I am checking trichomes daily with the loupe, but as yet 0% amber. Almost entirely milky/cloudy at the mo. The remaining buds are starting to look really good, but still bulking. I have given up on stealth and am basically running it with the tent door always open and fans blowing in. I leave the dehumidifer on 24/7 and in the tent (closed door when lights out). 18/6 they are on now. Average RH right now is about 45. Temp 28c If I forget to open the tent and blow air in, well the temps hit 35c+. All Epsilon plants are now getting the "flush" product Dragon Force.
Jungian79
Jungian79week 9
Hi, thanks for the kind comments you left a while ago on my Epsilon grow. It looks like there's definitely something in the genetics which makes them stretch under certain circumstances, fertigation maybe? My Epsilon looked very like your plant 3, it's a pity she had to be cut down due to the bud rot. The only thing I would change about my Epsilon grow would have been to not start flushing so soon and to have allowed another couple of weeks at least before cutting. With the curing now done, the smoke is smooth and tasty however not as strong as I would have liked.
Jungian79
Jungian79
@UnorthadoxDude, I agree, leave them another couple of weeks and reassess then. Others have mentioned that the high is more cerebral than body which I found too. Can't comment on how much CBN they can produce the longer they mature but I'd be very interested to hear how it goes for you after harvest.
UnorthadoxDude
UnorthadoxDude
@Jungian79, Hey growmie! Thanks for stopping by, yeah your 95cm plant is the one I referenced in an earlier week. I think I have grown the largest so far in these girls! I am going to leave them as long as I dare. I cut the first grow at day 60, these I am thinking 10-20 more days for the most mature, longer for the others. What do you think? I have heard that if left to get plenty of amber this strain can have body effects, so let us find out! Hopefully I will not be forced to cut anymore early.
Dolfom
Dolfomweek 10
Ça à l'air très bien tout ça, cette variété s étire beaucoup. 👍☮️
UnorthadoxDude
UnorthadoxDude
@Dolfom, It is not supposed to! It is a 50-70cm strain... all the other grows I have seen, including my previous grow the plants stayed under 1m. As far as I am aware, and as far as RQS are aware, these are now all the largest Epsilon F1 plants grown so far. You can only expect such crazy growth with hydro and synthetic nutrition. In soil these plants will not grow so big, or even in organic coco grow. I am only using 600w HPS. I shudder to think what these plants might do with this nutrition, in even larger pots, with a modern LED growlight.
nonick123
nonick123week 9
Una cosecha espectacular a pesar del budrot!
UnorthadoxDude
UnorthadoxDude
@nonick123, fingers crossed! The plant 2 main cola I managed to save all but 2 buds. Was approximately 20g bone dry (warm air dried).
Dolfom
Dolfomweek 9
Quel dommage pour ta plante, mais les autres sont bien là et sacrément givrées. Bravo l'ami 👏👏☮️
UnorthadoxDude
UnorthadoxDude
@Dolfom, yes! If it was to be any plant I am glad it was the smallest. I am now keeping a very very close eye on the inside of the bigger colas as these plants are developing. I have taken steps to increase airflow and reduce humidity.
Coco4CocoPuffs
Coco4CocoPuffsweek 9
Fantastic job my friend 👏
UnorthadoxDude
UnorthadoxDude
@Coco4CocoPuffs, thanks! Disappointed to lose one of the plants to bud rot but at least it was the smallest!
NeoCat
NeoCatweek 8
Sorry to hear about your budrot 😭 it's horrible but hopefully you salvaged enough. Good luck with the hard deadline too, must be stressful. The buds are looking insane! So sparkly 😋 My girls are dry, halfway through trimming. Hopefully give a weight this week 😎
UnorthadoxDude
UnorthadoxDude
@NeoCat, woo I will go check out your diary!
nonick123
nonick123week 8
Tienen unos buenos cogollos! 😍
UnorthadoxDude
UnorthadoxDude
@nonick123, very dense!
MedicineMaker
MedicineMakerweek 8
Look great and plant 3 is just amazing! 👍Awesome work my friend! 👏
UnorthadoxDude
UnorthadoxDude
@MedicineMaker, thanks! I think she has about 2 weeks left!
Dolfom
Dolfomweek 4
Salut, est-ce des plantes automatiques ?? Car je vois qu elle commence à fleurir avec 20 heures de lumière ☮️👍
UnorthadoxDude
UnorthadoxDude
@Dolfom, yes they are automatic, extremely fast F1 hybrid automatic and well spotted also! :)
James
Jamesweek 0
Hey mate, happy growing! Always a pleasure!
UnorthadoxDude
UnorthadoxDude
@James, thank you! Hopefully they do well and we get some nice content here and on other social media.
nonick123
nonick123week 12
Preciosos cogollos!
Red_Rockst4r
Red_Rockst4rweek 10
😍😜👍
DrGreenThumb24
DrGreenThumb24week 9
Shame about the rot I hope you can bring the humidity down and save any issues with the last ones. They look really good!
Natrona
Natronaweek 0
This is wonderful. 🤩
MedicineMaker
MedicineMakerweek 5
Very nice updates this week! 👍 This growth is beyond my expertise in how to handle them, the only thing about not feeding them is they might start showing signs of deficiencies. They are hungry 😀 Maybe just start bending the branches horizontally if there are not too stiff.
MedicineMaker
MedicineMaker
@UnorthadoxDude, I figured it wasn't, just having fun. I would love to have a dedicated grow room.
UnorthadoxDude
UnorthadoxDude
@MedicineMaker, eh not possible right now, maybe soon.
MedicineMaker
MedicineMaker
@UnorthadoxDude, Get rid of the tent all together and hang your light from the ceiling, only if that was possible.😀
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