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weeks 4-8, 11
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Grow medium
Coco Coir
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Week 5
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UnorthadoxDude UnorthadoxDude
10 months ago
Hello growmies! Welcome to week five of An Epsilon Adventure! Massive thanks to both Shogun and Royal Queen Seeds for sponsoring this grow! The girls are all at different early flowering stages, but they are only days apart from each other. I have a bit of a quandary now though, as I am no longer following the nutrient schedule as these plants are too fast for it. So I am unsure whether to start PK warrior or not yet. I have also realised I have probably underfed them in the last week or so, which to be honest isn't a big deal for me right now as they are already waaaaaaaaaaay bigger than expected. Let's talk about that a moment. This strain has an average height of 50-70cm. I wonder if those numbers were for soil grows? It seems for coco you will get even bigger plants. Case in point these six girls measured at 3pm 24/7 day 30 as follows: Plant 1: 111cm Plant 2: 99cm Plant 3: 90cm Plant 4: 89cm Plant 5: 85cm Plant 6: 84cm Plant 3 appears to have stopped stretching and is the most advanced into flower. Plant 4 is right behind it and has slowed down but not yet stopped stretching. Plant 2 is next in terms of flowering development her stretch is slowing. Plant 5 is still stretching rapidly and is coming to the end of preflower. No concern really at 85cm she has some room yet. Plant 6 is still stretching rapidly and is still in preflower. Slightly concerned despite her 84cm stature as she has been the most beefy looking plant all along, so I am expecting her to grow a good bit more. Plant 1 is still stretching rapidly and is still in preflower. Extremely very concerned about this one. The light is about as high as it can go. 111cm!! I have scoured the internet and the tallest Epsilon F1 I have found was 95cm. It's great that she is so happy this plant, but if she gets much taller I'm going to have to super crop her main cola. Whatever happens I am starting to dream of smashing my yield target out of the park, these girls are all impressive. Hard to believe they are just 30 days old. Daily Updates: ### Week 5 Day 2 15:00 24/7 Photographed. ### Week 5 Day 2 23:30 24/7 fertigated 1.6l and updated nutrient schedule for the week ### Week 5 Day 3 20:00 25/7 took a short video ### Week 5 Day 4 05:00 26/7 photographed ### Week 5 Day 4 18:00 26/7 Measured (brace yourself). Plant 1: 126cm Plant 2: 107cm Plant 3: 93cm Plant 4: 94cm Plant 5: 97cm Plant 6: 96cm Plants 3 and 4 have stopped stretching now and are fully into flower. At 93cm and 94cm respectively, by the end of flower these girls may hit 1m but they wont go much more than that. Plant 2 looks to have just about stopped as well. It might go another 10cm overall. Plant 5 is still stretching but I think not much more. Plant 6 is still stretching and I am still expecting quite a bit of growth from her. Then there is plant 1. 126cm and still stretching. It has now grown beyond the height of the light. I hope it can somehow finish itself before it hits the top of the tent. I mean the secondary colas are over 1m already. It is a great shame this giant plant doesn't have more horizontal space to itself, either way it is absolutely shocking to see. I really do not want to super crop her, but am out of options. This grow, incidentally, constitutes the first and last time that I let any indoor cannabis plant go untrained. With basically 4 x 4 x 4 of usable space, training my plants is not really optional - and now you can all see why. This "50-70cm" strain has rapidly outgrown my space. RQS it may be time to revisit the height claims on this strain. Just saying. ### Week 5 Day 6 01:00 28/7 Rearranged the tent and photographed. I have been regularly rotating the plants and periodically moving them around. My problem is now plant one has already hit the top of the tent and there is no easy way to give it anymore space... still not sure what I am supposed to do but it's fine for now... tried to capture the problem with the photos. As well as plant 1, plant 6 looks like it's going to keep going for a good bit yet, and plant 2 is still putting a bit of height on. I took plenty of photos today to try and capture the essence of the jungle. It is quite unbelievable what these plants have done. I just cannot stop looking at them, they are magnificent. I have not fed for 4 days, will probably feed later I am just trying to slow them down a bit by not feeding them. It doesn't seem to be working. ### Week 5 Day 6 23:00 28/7 Defoliated heavily all plants. Fertigated 2l each. Removed some more lower side growth off the smallest plant (plant 3) to make space. Might leave it a few days before I photograph again. Plants 2, 3, and 4 are all well into flowering now, plant 5 is not far behind them, but plants 1 and 6 are still in preflower. :( What is really remarkable right now is the difference in colour between the plants further into flower vs the plants still in preflower. The plants in flowering have much darker leaves. --- Thanks for reading growmies! 👊 ========== Tent: 120cm x 120cm x 180cm Light: 600w HID Elite Dual Spectrum HPS + Angel Wing Reflector Air: 5" duct fan system with carbon filter ~300 m3/hour + RAM 9" floor fan + 4" intake fan Pots: Air Pruner Fabric Pots 30l - UGro XL Coco + horticultural grade perlite (~20%) Seeds supplied by Royal Queen Seeds https://www.royalqueenseeds.com Nutrients supplied by Shogun Fertilisers https://www.shogunfertilisers.com/en ==========
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NeoCat
NeoCatweek 6
Geez, what have shogun been putting in your bottles?! They've stretched so much 😮 Hope the buds fill out 😎 they look frosty already!
UnorthadoxDude
UnorthadoxDude
@NeoCat, regarding the buds filling out! Me too!!! They did last time and how! They are probably the most dense auto-flowering buds I have grown yet, so I am expecting big things here!
UnorthadoxDude
UnorthadoxDude
@NeoCat, 😆 all of the plants further into flower have darker leaves. I think I need to back off with the nutes now. Actually I think they nees a flush.
Red_Rockst4r
Red_Rockst4rweek 6
Summer time 😍 Nice grow mate! 👌
UnorthadoxDude
UnorthadoxDude
@Red_Rockst4r, Yes sir! Thanks you! I am really putting some serious effort into this diary. I am going to enter into August Diary of the Month! I want it to be my best grow and best diary so far!
UnorthadoxDude
UnorthadoxDude
@Red_Rockst4r, thanks!!
UnorthadoxDude
UnorthadoxDudeweek 10
I have 5 short videos for this week but the GD website is getting worse and worse, and I have just given up trying to upload them. If you wanna see vids go to my twitter or insta. Same username.
nonick123
nonick123week 10
Vaya colas!
nonick123
nonick123
UnorthadoxDude
UnorthadoxDude
@nonick123, Aha I understand. Perhaps I should learn some Spanish! :D
nonick123
nonick123
@UnorthadoxDude, "colas" es una forma coloquial de decir en español "grandes cogollos" Yo escribo en español, y a veces el traductor de Growdiaries hace cosas raras 🤣
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MedicineMaker
MedicineMakerweek 10
Looking very frosty, amazing flowers my friend! 👏 It looks like you are getting close, when are you planning on the harvest?
UnorthadoxDude
UnorthadoxDude
@MedicineMaker, I will, I think plant 2 is coming down this weekend. I haven't checked trichs for a couple of days, but the smell has changed so I am expecting progress.
MedicineMaker
MedicineMaker
@UnorthadoxDude, Sounding really promising, I'm excited for you! Glad to hear you have the temps and humidity under control. I had about the same as you on my last grow towards the end, I'm being patient and waiting 4 weeks of cure before I test. Best of luck and keep me updated! 👊
UnorthadoxDude
UnorthadoxDude
@MedicineMaker, the fade started on what's left of plant 2 a couple of days ago. I am checking trichomes daily with the loupe, but as yet 0% amber. Almost entirely milky/cloudy at the mo. The remaining buds are starting to look really good, but still bulking. I have given up on stealth and am basically running it with the tent door always open and fans blowing in. I leave the dehumidifer on 24/7 and in the tent (closed door when lights out). 18/6 they are on now. Average RH right now is about 45. Temp 28c If I forget to open the tent and blow air in, well the temps hit 35c+. All Epsilon plants are now getting the "flush" product Dragon Force.
Jungian79
Jungian79week 9
Hi, thanks for the kind comments you left a while ago on my Epsilon grow. It looks like there's definitely something in the genetics which makes them stretch under certain circumstances, fertigation maybe? My Epsilon looked very like your plant 3, it's a pity she had to be cut down due to the bud rot. The only thing I would change about my Epsilon grow would have been to not start flushing so soon and to have allowed another couple of weeks at least before cutting. With the curing now done, the smoke is smooth and tasty however not as strong as I would have liked.
Jungian79
Jungian79
@UnorthadoxDude, I agree, leave them another couple of weeks and reassess then. Others have mentioned that the high is more cerebral than body which I found too. Can't comment on how much CBN they can produce the longer they mature but I'd be very interested to hear how it goes for you after harvest.
UnorthadoxDude
UnorthadoxDude
@Jungian79, Hey growmie! Thanks for stopping by, yeah your 95cm plant is the one I referenced in an earlier week. I think I have grown the largest so far in these girls! I am going to leave them as long as I dare. I cut the first grow at day 60, these I am thinking 10-20 more days for the most mature, longer for the others. What do you think? I have heard that if left to get plenty of amber this strain can have body effects, so let us find out! Hopefully I will not be forced to cut anymore early.
Dolfom
Dolfomweek 10
Ça à l'air très bien tout ça, cette variété s étire beaucoup. 👍☮️
UnorthadoxDude
UnorthadoxDude
@Dolfom, It is not supposed to! It is a 50-70cm strain... all the other grows I have seen, including my previous grow the plants stayed under 1m. As far as I am aware, and as far as RQS are aware, these are now all the largest Epsilon F1 plants grown so far. You can only expect such crazy growth with hydro and synthetic nutrition. In soil these plants will not grow so big, or even in organic coco grow. I am only using 600w HPS. I shudder to think what these plants might do with this nutrition, in even larger pots, with a modern LED growlight.
nonick123
nonick123week 9
Una cosecha espectacular a pesar del budrot!
UnorthadoxDude
UnorthadoxDude
@nonick123, fingers crossed! The plant 2 main cola I managed to save all but 2 buds. Was approximately 20g bone dry (warm air dried).
Dolfom
Dolfomweek 9
Quel dommage pour ta plante, mais les autres sont bien là et sacrément givrées. Bravo l'ami 👏👏☮️
UnorthadoxDude
UnorthadoxDude
@Dolfom, yes! If it was to be any plant I am glad it was the smallest. I am now keeping a very very close eye on the inside of the bigger colas as these plants are developing. I have taken steps to increase airflow and reduce humidity.
Coco4CocoPuffs
Coco4CocoPuffsweek 9
Fantastic job my friend 👏
UnorthadoxDude
UnorthadoxDude
@Coco4CocoPuffs, thanks! Disappointed to lose one of the plants to bud rot but at least it was the smallest!
NeoCat
NeoCatweek 8
Sorry to hear about your budrot 😭 it's horrible but hopefully you salvaged enough. Good luck with the hard deadline too, must be stressful. The buds are looking insane! So sparkly 😋 My girls are dry, halfway through trimming. Hopefully give a weight this week 😎
UnorthadoxDude
UnorthadoxDude
@NeoCat, woo I will go check out your diary!
nonick123
nonick123week 8
Tienen unos buenos cogollos! 😍
UnorthadoxDude
UnorthadoxDude
@nonick123, very dense!
MedicineMaker
MedicineMakerweek 8
Look great and plant 3 is just amazing! 👍Awesome work my friend! 👏
UnorthadoxDude
UnorthadoxDude
@MedicineMaker, thanks! I think she has about 2 weeks left!
Dolfom
Dolfomweek 4
Salut, est-ce des plantes automatiques ?? Car je vois qu elle commence à fleurir avec 20 heures de lumière ☮️👍
UnorthadoxDude
UnorthadoxDude
@Dolfom, yes they are automatic, extremely fast F1 hybrid automatic and well spotted also! :)
James
Jamesweek 0
Hey mate, happy growing! Always a pleasure!
UnorthadoxDude
UnorthadoxDude
@James, thank you! Hopefully they do well and we get some nice content here and on other social media.
nonick123
nonick123week 12
Preciosos cogollos!
Red_Rockst4r
Red_Rockst4rweek 10
😍😜👍
DrGreenThumb24
DrGreenThumb24week 9
Shame about the rot I hope you can bring the humidity down and save any issues with the last ones. They look really good!
Natrona
Natronaweek 0
This is wonderful. 🤩
MedicineMaker
MedicineMakerweek 5
Very nice updates this week! 👍 This growth is beyond my expertise in how to handle them, the only thing about not feeding them is they might start showing signs of deficiencies. They are hungry 😀 Maybe just start bending the branches horizontally if there are not too stiff.
MedicineMaker
MedicineMaker
@UnorthadoxDude, I figured it wasn't, just having fun. I would love to have a dedicated grow room.
UnorthadoxDude
UnorthadoxDude
@MedicineMaker, eh not possible right now, maybe soon.
MedicineMaker
MedicineMaker
@UnorthadoxDude, Get rid of the tent all together and hang your light from the ceiling, only if that was possible.😀
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