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Shōgun x Double XL Forbidden Runtz Growers Choice

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Germination
2 years ago
Less than 24h in shot glass, then about 48h on wet towel tek. Straight to end pot.
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Paper Towel
Germination Method
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Week 1. Vegetation
2 years ago
2.54 cm
18 hrs
28 °C
6.2
No Smell
450 PPM
65 %
21 °C
20 °C
20 °C
30 L
0 L
40.64 cm
500 PPM
Nutrients 2
Start - Shogun
Start 1.1 mll
SHOGUN Katana Roots - Shogun
SHOGUN Katana Roots 2.5 mll
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Week 2. Vegetation
2 years ago
7.62 cm
18 hrs
28 °C
6.2
No Smell
450 PPM
65 %
21 °C
20 °C
20 °C
30 L
0 L
40.64 cm
500 PPM
Nutrients 7
Hygrozyme 1.25 mll
SHOGUN Silicon - Shogun
SHOGUN Silicon 0.5 mll
SHOGUN Samurai Coco A - Shogun
SHOGUN Samurai Coco A 0.6 mll
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Week 3. Vegetation
2 years ago
15.24 cm
21 hrs
28 °C
6.5
No Smell
62 %
21 °C
20 °C
20 °C
30 L
0 L
40.64 cm
558 PPM
Nutrients 7
Hygrozyme 1.25 mll
SHOGUN Silicon - Shogun
SHOGUN Silicon 0.5 mll
SHOGUN Samurai Coco A - Shogun
SHOGUN Samurai Coco A 0.85 mll
Start training from first day of week 3. Boost of nutrients x2 from day 21 Hygrozyme 2.5 ml/l SHOGUN Silicon 1 ml/l SHOGUN Samurai Coco A 2.4 ml/l SHOGUN Samurai Coco B 2.4 ml/l SHOGUN CalMag 0.7 ml/l SHOGUN Katana Roots 0.2ml/l SHOGUN Geisha Foliar 1 ml/l
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LST
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Week 4. Vegetation
2 years ago
15.24 cm
21 hrs
30 °C
6
No Smell
68 %
22 °C
21 °C
22 °C
30 L
0 L
30.48 cm
558 PPM
Nutrients 7
Hygrozyme 1.25 mll
SHOGUN Silicon - Shogun
SHOGUN Silicon 1 mll
SHOGUN Samurai Coco A - Shogun
SHOGUN Samurai Coco A 3.8 mll
What to say. She's not the biggest and started flowering. Still its bigger than any of my 1st auto strain. I will start give her flower nutrients from day 29-30.
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Topping
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Week 5. Flowering
2 years ago
17.78 cm
18 hrs
28 °C
6.2
No Smell
65 %
22 °C
21 °C
22 °C
30 L
0 L
40.64 cm
558 PPM
Nutrients 7
Hygrozyme 2.5 mll
SHOGUN Silicon - Shogun
SHOGUN Silicon 1 mll
SHOGUN Samurai Coco A - Shogun
SHOGUN Samurai Coco A 3.8 mll
At day 31 she had first flower supplement's. Overall I'm happy she's bigger than previous strain. Training going well. Still learning how to do so small plant. I hope Forbidden Runtz will flourish in coco/perlite mix.
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Defoliation
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Week 6. Flowering
2 years ago
17.78 cm
17 hrs
28 °C
6
Weak
65 %
22 °C
21 °C
22 °C
30 L
0 L
40.64 cm
512 PPM
Nutrients 8
Hygrozyme 2.5 mll
SHOGUN Silicon - Shogun
SHOGUN Silicon 1 mll
SHOGUN Samurai Coco A - Shogun
SHOGUN Samurai Coco A 3 mll
She start to have some deficiency even i boosted nutrients on this strain 2x. ..she's been too dry few days before leafs started yellowing(No time to water them 😞) after getting some water she raised up but yellow. Seams like sometimes foliar application give a issue with brown spots. Same as you would leave droplet of nutieted water on leaf. From other hand a day after a picture was taken colours look way better, but some new burned spots shown up. All done just before night time. (Max 1min. of exposure to light.) That give me a lot of mixed signals... Overall in last week she's was littlebit under feed with too long dry period. Spraying more under leaf is way to go but plant is way too small for that. Still I think I will be able to fix it on her...also this is a stage when they should start changing coulour. I started 10 days ago run of runtz in coco/perlite. See if plant will be any bigger in diffeent medium. At momemnt i have 3 Runtz, 4 and 7 galon pebbles/coco and 4 galon coco/perlite. Propobly i will add one more in perlite to keep balance in statistics. Can't get a lot if genetics are poor...let's test that out!
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Week 7. Flowering
2 years ago
20.32 cm
18 hrs
28 °C
6.3
Weak
60 %
22 °C
21 °C
22 °C
30 L
0 L
48.26 cm
707 PPM
Nutrients 7
Hygrozyme 2.5 mll
SHOGUN Silicon - Shogun
SHOGUN Silicon 1 mll
SHOGUN Samurai Coco A - Shogun
SHOGUN Samurai Coco A 2.3 mll
Adjusting stakes every so often. At Day 50 She had major defoliation. Pistons started turning brown and top is very thick for that small plant. Looking cute tho.
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Defoliation
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Week 8. Flowering
2 years ago
20.32 cm
18 hrs
31 °C
6.3
Weak
53 %
23 °C
22 °C
23 °C
30 L
0 L
58.42 cm
637 PPM
Nutrients 4
Hygrozyme 2.5 mll
SHOGUN Sumo Active Boost  - Shogun
SHOGUN Sumo Active Boost 2 mll
SHOGUN Geisha Foliar - Shogun
SHOGUN Geisha Foliar 1 mll
Today she had defoliation with accident of cutting one of side buds. As for some people she may be ready so is not big loss. I will have some pre harvest test next week. :) New nutrients will be applied from day 59.
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Week 9. Flowering
a year ago
20.32 cm
18 hrs
27 °C
6.3
Normal
56 %
21 °C
20 °C
23 °C
30 L
2 L
58.42 cm
628 PPM
Nutrients 1
Water 1000 mll
She's been great so far, allready had first flush. Not long dor 🔪. I may keep one of her sister's for 70+ day's as buds are way more dense and frosty than on my 1st autoflower strain. That one definitely liked 1-2weeks more than anticipated.
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Week 9. Harvest
a year ago
Happy Harvest Day!
Rated
6/10
Rated
She had some issues. Like my other first plants she grow very small. One of her sister its even smaller than that. Buds growing very frosty and loud. Not large like i expect from that XXL. Not so intesne smell compare to Speed from Sweet Seeds. Still got more fruity notes than above which is very sweet in smell. Maybe not give enough smell but strength its superb. Taste is way different no comparison. More skunk'y, with some exotic notes.
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Spent 67 days
Ger Veg Flo Har
6.65 g
Bud dry weight per plant
1
Plants
1.22
Grow Room size
Easy
Difficulty
Positive effects
Happy, Relaxed
Positive effects
Taste
Earthy, Fruity, Sweet
Taste
Sleepy
Energy
Indica
Hybrid
Sativa

Height
Day air temperature
Air humidity
PPM
PH
CO2
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Solution temperature
Night air temperature
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She definitely need week or 2 longer. At least 70 days for proper ripping buds. I will add weight of all 3 plants over here. One is done in perlite/coco wonder if going to be above 1/4oz. 😂 1st 6.65g (65 days)
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Week 9. Harvest
a year ago
Happy Harvest Day!
Rated
7/10
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Loud frosty and dense buds. Like fruity/sweet notes and omg after taste is ridiculous. Even tobacco can't kill it. No complain here, if she didn't came out so small definitely i would give 9-10 stars. Technically it is all what you wants, if taste notes fitting you. This is the way! Only minus for me high is not purely Indica. Still i wouldn't recommend smoking it in morrning. I have another plant 2 weeks to finish and couple more seeds. I will definitely run rest of them, wishing to have comparison to Fast Buds one.
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Spent 67 days
Ger Veg Flo Har
7.65 g
Bud dry weight per plant
1
Plants
1.21
Grow Room size
Easy
Difficulty
Positive effects
Happy, Relaxed
Positive effects
Taste
Earthy, Fruity, Sweet
Taste
Sleepy
Energy
Indica
Hybrid
Sativa

Height
Day air temperature
Air humidity
PPM
PH
CO2
Light schedule
Solution temperature
Night air temperature
Substrate temperature
Pot size
Lamp distance
One of plants when I did absolutely no training to her. Still she preformed better than 1st one from diary. By quality weight and strength. About grow? Not a lot to say. Half way I changed feeding for one used in White Widow. She definitely responded better than WW but stayed in about half of her size. No discoloration on leafs. Last plant ever in coco/pebbles. Maybe one day again with some self watering system. On this plant particularly I did test EC for autos and madman method and harvest tests. -partial harvest -ice in last flush water -grove bag vs. jar -drying whole plant vs. Partially trimmed in winter/autumn weather. Outcome was as follow: -Partial harvest its OK when you not LST your plant and have Christmas tree growth. Giving additional week for lower buds brining them to same quality as top cola. -Ice in pot. In winter it's useless and not recommend in winter time. Specially if you live in high humidity area. It fucked my White Widow a lot. -Groove bags keeps humidity slightly better i didt 25% air in bag same to jar to keep results as close is possible. Jar bud was more crisp but looser too compare to Groove Bags. I did 3.5g for 2 weeks after 12 days of drying. -like i mention humidity in drying proces. Whole plant is too humid for my environment allready in October. Best is to separate from stem and cut bigger non sugar, sugar leafs. 7.65g dry weight after cure 82 days 16.10.23 2nd Plant (No training)
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Week 9. Harvest
a year ago
Happy Harvest Day!
Rated
7/10
Rated
Tasty, middle range strong. Definitely like to be kept Week or two longer. Hitting strong sweet and fruity notes when grind up. More of weedy taste with hints and aftertaste of sweet&fruits. Moved to carbord box After 7 days drying without most of stems and leafs, i have put on side few smaller buds for testing material
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Spent 67 days
Ger Veg Flo Har
11.76 g
Bud dry weight per plant
1
Plants
1.22
Grow Room size
Easy
Difficulty
Positive effects
Happy, Relaxed
Positive effects
Negative effects
Dry mouth
Negative effects
Taste
Earthy, Fruity, Sweet
Taste
Sleepy
Energy
Indica
Hybrid
Sativa

Height
Day air temperature
Air humidity
PPM
PH
CO2
Light schedule
Solution temperature
Night air temperature
Substrate temperature
Pot size
Lamp distance
Little bonsai tree. Topped with late LST still on old feed which was causing them growing so small. Still Im pretty sure could take out way more from shogun. Still got some seeds so definitely i will comeback to Grower's Choice genetic's. Maybe more organical. She had 2 weeks flush few days before harvest notice begining of bud rot in main cola. When plant is so small. Topping make shit worse. My air circulation isnt best ethier so had to cut out little bit. Still she was first plant in coco/perlite and being nearly 2x bigger than her sisters. Day 92 18.11.23 11.76g coco/perlite
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tWack
tWackcommentedweek 22 years ago
Looking good!
justsomedude420
justsomedude420commentedweek 9a year ago
Very pretty 😊
Atalant
Atalantcommenteda year ago
@@justsomedude420, Does Organic Tests are for dial 3 diffrent medium's to use one feeding with BioTabs. Technically it's dry 😂 Shogun and Organicus its just kinda show case for me synthetics vs organics. With twist of using most 1-2 nutrients for Organic grow. Peace ✌️
justsomedude420
justsomedude420commenteda year ago
@Atalant, Haha yeah I prefer the dry amendments over the bottled nutes
Atalant
Atalantcommenteda year ago
@@justsomedude420, I have some too but fem GG#4 from Zamnesia also auto ver same strain 😅 im kinda too invested in to new methods. Learning a lot more than i even wanted. 😅 For example most of bottled organics are bs 🤣
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WhiteEdge
WhiteEdgecommentedweek 22 years ago
Great start, keep going man!
Natrona
Natronacommentedweek 22 years ago
Happy growing 🌱 and have fun 🎉
Loran11144
Loran11144commentedweek 3a year ago
Why is it so small?
Atalant
Atalantcommenteda year ago
@Loran11144, My problem was Shogun is quite potent and doesn't have feed for autos . Nether article from Fast Buds which did most of known brands and publish ther feed. I still didn't dialed in. Some people had way better results but had plant with proper feed from begining. My White Widow had 2 flushes because of same issue. I have one more Forbidden Runtz which is propobly biggest but nothing special. This plant is done in coco/perlite. To check how bad my feeding was... coco/pebbles second very bad choice from me. (Ph fluctuations, to bad drainage, to hard for autos) and then overwatering. I did stop doing it "on eye". So my problem was too much instead of laziness. I know it can be done with minimum effort. Just im not looking for finished method done by someone else.
Loran11144
Loran11144commenteda year ago
@Atalant, i think so too. When you give it too much it gets lazy af . Gets too comfortable. I am facing same problem now - nutrient burn. Now i will give only a tiny drop of nutrients once a week to it
Atalant
Atalantcommenteda year ago
@Loran11144, Due to many factors. Depending on which plant u asking, mostly I would say over feeding.
BudBoutique
BudBoutiquecommentedweek 9a year ago
Amazing harvest buddy - buds looking super dense and frosty Did you already smoke some? Really good job - well done!!  Cheers, Bud Boutique
Atalant
Atalantcommenteda year ago
@BudBoutique, same as with WW, bud 💪
Herbie101
Herbie101commentedweek 9a year ago
Happy harvest buddy! Enjoy the fruits of your labour 🌱🌞🍀
Atalant
Atalantcommenteda year ago
@Herbie101, thanks a lot. Still wish to had St this point at least 1oz from plant.
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