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Week one of the grow. One Green Quack bag seed (no discernible genetics, flower came from Stonies, LLC in North Bend, OR; through SweetLifeDistro, no notes on the actual grower. There are no notes on this strain on Leafly, Allbud, SeedFinder, ICMag, or IG. I can only surmise that this is either someone's Green Crack and Duckfoot cross (it didn't end up exhibiting duckfoot mutation, but did exhibit whorled phyllotaxy) or, is just someone's Green Crack, grown or bred near Eugene, OR.
The other three pots, labeled B.S. (for bulk seed), are Rare Earth Organics, identified only as Harlox X Tangie X Mandala. Of the five seeds in the bag, I've sprouted three.
The growing medium on this run is Fox Farms Ocean Forest, in one gallon fabric pots, with biodegradable seed pots full of a mild seedling soil inset into the pots to protect the seedlings from the FFOF. Plants are being misted every 4 hours to keep the humidity up.
During week 2 the Green Quack bag seed grew vigorously but the three bulk seeds from Rare Earth did nothing. No new height, no leaf growth, nothing. And the original fourth seed hadn't even sprouted and had to be replanted.
Week three saw the Green Quack keep charging along, and the bulk seeds fizzle into nothingness. In fact, on the last day of this week, I pulled the last of the Rare Earth seeds and just tossed all of the seedlings. Most of the seedlings had started to die anyway, and none of them even had their first set of true leaves. Meanwhile, the Green Quack was up to its third node, and was getting started on its first fan leaf.
Week four started with one plant and three newly planted seeds. This time I decided not to use the biodegradable seedling pots between the seedling soil and the FFOF, as they seemed to be keeping more moisture close to the plant than I wanted. The new seeds are from Solsgreen, and are bulk Indica seeds split between Pink Lady, Power Stout, Power Pineapple, and Power G13. G13, Pineapple, and Pink Lady are all known strains, but I've been unable to find anything about Stout, and I have no idea what Solsgreen are using for the "Power" portion of their genetics. That being said, by the end of the week, all three had sprouted and set their first sets of true leaves.
The Green Quack is starting to show signs of nute burn on the bottom leaves (the roots have definitely made it through to the FFOF), and a magnesium deficiency on one side of the plant. CalMag is on its way.
Week 5 has come and gone, and the beinging of the week saw the first altered watering the plants received - 5ml/gal of Cal-Mag was added to this week's waterings. This week also saw the second topping of the Green Quack plant, to keep the offshoot branch (whorled phyllotaxy for the win?) at the same height as the main stem. I'm starting to get impatient about flowering the Green Quack, so I've decided that I'm just going to take the Solsgreen seedlings to their 6th node, top back to node three, and then flip to 12/12.
Starting this week off with some light defoliation on the Green Quack, to remove the damaged fan leaves and expose more of the newly topped main stems. Stems are starting to get to 1/4" to 3/8" diameter, and the base of the stem seems pretty well rooted, so before she gets rootbound, I'm going to transplant her into a five gallon pot at her next watering.
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Finished off the week by lollipopping the Green Quack, post transplant-shock recovery period (approx 36 to 48 hours). She's looking happy and healthy, and the three bulk seeds are just about ready to transplant as well, but will have to wait until next weekend, when I can afford more soil. I'll also have to wait until then to pick up some bottles of nutes. Hopefully the nitrogen def on the Green Quack doesn't get too bad between now and then.
Ok, beginning of the week - I had to move beginning to Sunday and end to Saturday, regardless of where we are in the actual count of days, because I just can't keep track anymore, bah!
One of the bulk seeds from Solsgreen is in a five gallon pot now, though it needs to be topped up with soil when we get paid next. This plant is massive compared to her sisters, two inches taller than the Green Quack, which is 3 weeks her senior. My only concern is that she my be an Auto, and if I top her, and she starts to flower before she's had time to recover, I could significantly impact my harvest. On the other hand, if I don't top her, she could outgrow my tent, Auto or not. The other two bulk seeds are both doing well, though they're both pretty squat little things. The Green Quack is recovering from her lollipopping quite nicely, it appears, and at 8 tops, I'm really looking forward to getting her under a SCroG net and into flower.
Meanwhile, all of the plants are starting to show some leaf damage from predators. Looks like Neem oil needs to go on the shopping list for the week, along with soil and nutes.
I flipped the tent to 12/12 beginning on Wednesday night last week, so this is the first full week of flowering time. I have bloom nutes from FF (Tiger Bloom), and some Neem oil that needs to be applied to take care of some pest issues. Other than that, things seem to be progressing as expected. The Green Quack shows signs of bloom about to start, but the indicas seem completely unaffected by the lighting switch so far. Two of them will get transplanted today into their 5 gallon pots, and one of them is looking pretty rough, so it's going to get a little TLC to hopefully get it back on track. Meanwhile, I picked up some shatter in one of the potential strains of the bulk seeds by the same dispo that released the seeds. I may have to give that a shot later.
Well, it's been a sad week, overall. One of my four plants - the largest, most robust of the bulk indica - grew balls. Since I'm not interested in starting a breeding project with unknown genetics, that meant it had to be chopped down at day 12F. The other three plants are chugging along, slowly. At this point, I'm just hoping one of the plants makes it to maturity without being male or a hermie. The light was raised this week, as one of the plants was starting to show heat stress... of course, that plant is dead now, but it's probably a good idea to keep the light closer to 80cm, like it's supposed to be.
Down to just the two plants now, one bulk indica from Solsgreen and the Green Quack bag seed. They are very definitely in flower now - and so much different to look at than they are during veg. Both plants seem pretty healthy - minimal clawing and tip burn are the only things I've really seen - so they'll get defoliated next watering, where they'll also get their next dose of Tiger Bloom.
End of week 10. I got a little lazy about taking photos this week, so I only have week-end photos, but the plants are starting to get frosty. The Indica smells like berries, but the Green Quack is straight sour-skunk, just like wandering around outside in SW Oregon during the fall. I'm very glad I don't have to try to hide this grow, because I would definitely need a second carbon filter and some room deodorizers. Both plants are getting thirsty, as well. They took 1.5 gallons each this week, first a gallon each with bloom nutes, and then .5 gallon each at the end of the week with just Cal-Mag. All of the pistils are still white, so far, so I'm thinking at least another 4 to 6 weeks.
The plants keep on chugging along. They're starting to get frosty, and really starting to smell. The Green Quack has a fruity, tangy, almost banana-ish smell; and the indica still smells like sweet berries. Didn't need much water this week, and I finally did some defoliation work on the Indica (and had to pull off a few small bud sites so the main cola would get more of the nutrients). Some of the first wave of pistils are starting to turn orange, but the buds are still far too airy, and completely unripe, to even contemplate harvest for at least another three weeks.
Another week in the books. The buds are starting to fatten up some now, and have thrown their second set of pistils. The first set of pistils is turning orange, but I'll need better magnification before I can actually check trichomes for harvest time. The smell of the buds is getting very nice, on each plant. It's all I can do not to pet them so I can smell them longer. They're also getting very thirsty these days, though the humidity in the tent is very low.
Week 14, and we're chugging along. Started taking trich shots this week to see if we were getting close to harvest (Green Crack is said to finish flower around day 55F, and I'm at day 54F today), but it looks like I've got at least a couple more weeks - which is good, because if I had to harvest today, my yield would be terrible. Hopefully things will bulk up a little over the next couple of weeks, but I'm well aware I'm still going to have a less-than-stellar harvest.
This is a bag seed, and I've only had one test nug off of it, from a couple of weeks back. It came on fast and was almost all head-high. We'll see how it smokes after its had a chance to dry and spent some time curing. It was easy to grow - no disease issues, no rot, it wasn't overly stretchy, and it didn't smell too terribly much. It does seem to have a very high leaf to bud ratio, though, even with pretty consistent defoliation (lollipopping and clearing leaves from the canopy to allow light to reach the buds). I am impressed that she didn't hermi, even after all of the stress that a noob grower can put a plant through.
Overall, for a first grow, I don't think I could've asked more from a bagseed. This plant survived when five of her brothers and sisters failed (three that never made it past cotyledons and two males). She put up with topping, lollipopping, and pretty heavy canopy defoliation throughout veg and flower. If you can find the genetics of this strain, and find a reputable supplier, I'd recommend growing it.
I can't recommend growing this primarily because I have no idea what it was. The going theory is that it may have been a hand-me-down of Power Stout, by mdanzig, but that's just because those are the only genetics I could find for the four strains that came in the bulk seed bag. Regardless, the harvest was pretty sad on this one. It was a stunted little plant that never made it above 2ft tall, and came up with a very larfy 40g of untrimmed, wet weed.
I really need to get everything transplanted into the five gallon pots, but I've been exhausted this week, and keep putting it off. They could use a little more time anyway - none of them are going dry or getting root bound, a few more days won't hurt (though I'll probably do it tomorrow anyway). At least now the light is on adjustable height ratchets, so I don't need plant risers any more.
Just a quick word of advice though - if you can afford anything better than a Vivosun tent, avoid them like the plague. I went with Vivosun for its budget appeal, knowing that they tend to have light leak issues - I'm an Eagle Scout, I can fix tent fabric - but not expecting the steel tubing that they shipped it with to bend under just the negative air pressure of a 440 cfm fan. Installed the fan and filter, turned it on to low, and watched the tent crumple like a beer can. Now I have to worry about finding a way to get 440 cfm into the tent so it doesn't collapse. I am not a happy grower.
@Garedicus, man dude that's frustrating. Got a small cabinet so can't relate but if ever I upgrade I'll definitely be taking the review into account! Cheers and good luck with it regardless👍
And this is why reg. Seeds are a bitch. Don’t get me wrong if I had the space for breeding and crossing I’d love em but without an extra tent, fem. is the only way to go😉. Good luck with the rest of em dude - hopefully you at least get a harvest for your trouble🤞👊
@@TheWeedMan, Thanks! I had two go male, so hopefully these two will make it to harvest without herming on me. I have some backup Fastbuds Auto seeds on the way, just in case.
@Dahoola,Thanks! I'll be keeping an eye on your Fastbuds GG grow. GG#12 is one of my favorite uplifting strains, so I'm on the lookout for good GG genetics to work with.
Hey bro! Awesome grow! I’m running in the Fastbuds iPhone contest , if you could stop by my 2xGSC-COCO journal and leave a comment I’d really appreciate it! Goodluck!
Smoke report on the Green Quack after four days in the jars - smells like green bananas as it's being ground, and a little like bubblegum still, but it's fading. High is very cerebral, like a very strong haze. That was what I liked about the Green Quack we got from the dispensary - that it was a little hazier than your average Green Crack. This stuff is almost psychedelic.👍
Smoke report: after three days of curing (not a lot, I know), it smells like alfalfa and verdant greenery; and tastes about the same, but with some spicy, doughy hints at the very back end. Effect-wise it's all indica, heavy on the relaxation, couch-lock, dry-eye, and I think would put me to sleep if I had a gram or so, but by brute force, not by putting my mind at ease.
The Green Quack bag seed is now in jars and curing. Total final weight was 14g of bud and 7g of trim, which is already decarbing in preparation for a batch of gummies or brownies or something. Smells like bubblegum, hopefully I'll be able to keep some of that smell throughout curing.
The indica got the chop today, at day 59F. Her trichs were all cloudy and starting to go amber, and it was pretty obvious she was done. The going theory right now is that she was an auto that I stunted the heck out of - she never eclipsed 40cm, she had one main cola that was 1/3 that height at most, and she came to a total wet weight of 40g.
Information about the genetics in the seed pack I was planting from are very limited, and the only strain of the four included that I could find any genetics on was Power Stout, which, according to the breeder, hasn't been available for purchase outside of a couple places since 2009, neither of which was my local dispensary, where I got these seeds. It is, however, possible that the dispensary that made the seeds (not where I bought them), having been a medical dispensary pre-rec legalization, had been gifted those original genetics by a patient or came across them as part of a collective, and has been selling them since it became legal for them to do so. Regardless, this is likely my last grow with these seeds, even though I have seven of them left, just because I've been so impressed by the professional genetics in my FastBuds grow - and also because two of these seeds were male, and I'm not looking to run a breeding project with completely unknown and weak genetics.
The stretch is on! The Green Quack was watered and fed her bloom nutes again today, and she's finally starting to stretch some. I discovered that my camera came with Macro and SuperMacro modes and a 24x zoom lens, so I should be set for trich shots when the time comes. Got some nice shots today - and I promise the top on that cover image isn't that bleached in real life, it's just the flash.
Lost another plant today. Bulk Seed 1 is covered in balls, and was taken to the chop. This has been one hell of a rough grow. Starting with three seeds that never made it past cotyledons, having to restart with three new plants 21 days in, while keeping a bag seed in veg and topping it, lollipopping it, and otherwise giving it hell just to get some practice in; then having two of the restarts go male? Brutal. It makes me so jealous of all of the pics posted online by people who "just threw some seeds into a pot on a whim, it's amazing what this plant can do." Well, I'm calling bullshit on those posts.
At this point, I'm almost starting to hope that the last two plants also go male or hermie early in the process, so I can just get this stupid grow over with and move on to my second grow, this time with really real genetics - Sideral, from Ripper Seeds.
It looks like all four plants are photoperiod, and all four are just on the cusp of a full blossom. It's at that point where r/microgrowery gets 88 billion posts asking if the plants are male because the little budsite is all swollen for a few days with just the first couple pistils barely peeking out. I won't be following the herd on this one, I've seen enough of these pics to know that if I give them a day or two to be sure, they'll be fully open and I won't need to ask. Still - they could hurry the hell up. I'm usually an extremely patient man, but the last 7 days have been tough.
It's so hard not checking my plants every few hours, now that they're in the dark for 12 hours a day. On the other hand, now I have a really good reason to get up every morning - to go check on my babies and turn their bloom lights on.
Alright, they made it through their first dark night, and the bloom lights are on now. The two smallest plants have been watered as well, as they were both starting to droop.
Impatience (along with some preflowering bud sites) strikes again! Tonight, for the first time ever, the lights in my tent went out, and will remain out for the next 12 hours. Then, the bloom lights come on. Should be interesting.
Ok, the Green Quack has been transplanted into its five gallon pot. The rest will have to wait until I can afford more dirt. Another bag or two ought to take care of it, especially when heavily mixed with perlite. Have to check the store today and see if they have any of the FF nutes, though - the tips on my GQ are starting to go every so slightly yellow.
Also of note, all future photos will have to be done with the actual camera - the floor of the tent is too far away from the lens on my phone and most of the photos are horribly blurry.
Garedicus
