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UmbrellaCorpCow UmbrellaCorpCow
a year ago
The first photos are from mid week two. The burnt leaves (we believe, advice welcome) we raised the light, and no other fresh growth are affected so we assume we've rectified the problem by doing this. We are at 15 days old. My wife decided she wanted to lst this is all experimental to us from the first tie down at around 5pm, to the adjustment at 1am she had already turned upright again and needed another tightening. We did one anchor line from one side of the pot at the base of the plant, and directly adjacent we put the second line used for bending in the opposite direction to the anchor line. It is amazing to see her change so drastically. My lil bonsai already taking shape. Is she looking healthy at the moment? I always worry. She's like my baby. My wife is less so bothered and stresses often to leave her be (the plant, sometimes her too!lol) We started administering grow nutrients now, because the soil can quickly be depleted of nutrients from a healthy plant with good root uptake. We first mix calmag, then nutes followed by ph down (miniscule amounts) to achieve around 6.3-6.5. My grow schedule recommends 5ml of the grow, but I only use 2.5ml or around half to avoid nute burn. Calmag 1ml all notes per 2l each watering around 5 days apart. Day 17, update I have raised the lights further to try and promote some stretching so I can soon in the near future try achieve a 45degree angle tie down to expose the node at the back which isn't receiving any light. So far she's responded well to lst and is upright again within a few hours meaning multiple tie downs a days. Usually 2. But so far she's achieving the shape I am looking for. Day 18, nothing much happened today, she stretched a little more so I staked her down a little further. She's looking good so far. She's dry on the top layer bit about half a fingers deep She's still moist (lol) so I think she may be watered tomorrow depending on how dry and light the pot feels. Fan directly blowing on her is also drying her out quicker now, that or She's drinking more. She's getting bushier and thicker stems each day. Lst seems to be working, the lower nodes are stretching more than if I'd left her to christmas tree. Hopefully my lst trickery at such a young age has convinced her she has multiple top colas. We'll see. Stay tuned! Day 19 lst update, Her canopy seems to be evening out now, and she's definitely getting bushy. Being able to see the plant each day is helping remind me she is growing via the photos, all be it slowly 😅 hopefully she's on track! Still fiddling with light heights. Currently dimmed to 50% She has been watered today. 2L of ph corrected water with 2ml of calmag and 2.5ml of plagron terra grow. I'm seeing some paleness on an odd few leaves so upped them calmag to try keep her happy.
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StealthyBuds
StealthyBudsweek 3
Good luck and enjoy the grow :)
UmbrellaCorpCow
UmbrellaCorpCow
@StealthyBuds, pm sent bud!
StealthyBuds
StealthyBuds
@UmbrellaCorpCow, Just PM me and I will help as much as can. :)
UmbrellaCorpCow
UmbrellaCorpCow
@StealthyBuds, thanks man I certainly am, I can only ever aspire to achieve some of your grows just checked your most recent looks amazing, as i am a beginner would you recommend autos or photos? And certainly gonna need it with the budget grow 🤣
Lemonhazelover
Lemonhazeloverweek 4
She looks very happy with your gardener's hand🧑‍🌾 Happy growing and good luck buddy ☘️
Lemonhazelover
Lemonhazelover
UmbrellaCorpCow
UmbrellaCorpCow
@Lemonhazelover, thanks so much really trying! Always researching, always learning thanks for the comment!
zenco
zencoweek 3
Might be wrong but I think you started doing LST a bit too early. Wait till she grows more nodes like three to four (then tie down node four to expose node three to the light, and so on), right now there's really no need to LST cuz there aren't any overshadowed grow sites present yet... Good luck 🙌 (again could be wrong if yield isn't your concern, since you mentioned bonsai)
UmbrellaCorpCow
UmbrellaCorpCow
@zenco, I do see some growth, the lower branches are stretching and leaves seem to be growing, I'm just so scared about her flowering before she's ready. I'm really put off autos. My first two grows were like hand me down lights and equipment next to nothing. But they flowered so early ( gorilla glue #4 and critical 2.0) This time I've invested a little more time and money hoping it equates to end mass lol. She's very pliable atm, she was thickening rapidly at the stalk and I honestly didn't want to snap her at a later point so it was a now or never, so far pleasantly surprised I'll be updating every week if you do happen to follow along
zenco
zenco
@UmbrellaCorpCow, only day 16 and she seems to be responding well to the stress, I'm sure she'll do great with what u plan on doing. Just one of those drawbacks of lst is trying to find out whether she's stunted or busy recovering underneath the soil :/ Keep staying patient and nimble with ur fingers and I think you should be good for sure
UmbrellaCorpCow
UmbrellaCorpCow
@zenco, hey, I've just added a day 16 lst progress update, I've only seen an odd few lst at such a young week. There are now around 4 branches more exposed than before lst (the lighter green leaf areas in the picture) one is underneath the main cola branch. Once she stretches a bit more, I'm going to try then rotate and stake down the main cola at a 45degree angle to expose that lower potential cola to have a total of 5 main colas fingers crossed. It may not work, im hoping it doesn't stunt her
BudBoutique
BudBoutiqueweek 4
Happy start - Happy Growing 🧑‍🌾💚
UmbrellaCorpCow
UmbrellaCorpCow
@BudBoutique, fingers crossed! I'm enjoying it so far any mistakes I've made she's bounced back we'll see!
James
Jamesweek 3
Happy growing!!! 🌱
UmbrellaCorpCow
UmbrellaCorpCow
@James, loving the seeds so far! Hope I can do them justice
Jaindoh
Jaindohweek 6
Following for your first grow -- for a long time, when i was able to grow a few years ago, I followed hundreds of new growers to help them with their fundamentals. it's been a few years since I've been able to grow, but i'll be able to again in a couple weeks, so I may be a bit rusty to give you super in depth feedback for the first bit. What you will notice for sure is that teaching people the basics will be how you go from a good solid beginner to a good solid intermediate grower, it helped me immensely. Your plant is very promising, though it's growth is going to be split among all those colas. if you're only doing LST and you're doing enough to make it sad, that's no longer LOW stress training. Everyone pushes it a bit too much every once in a while, but if youre going to shock it, do all the things that are going to shock it (defoliate, whatever) at the same time to minimize time under shock. Make sure to give it time to recover during its early flower and go easy from here on out; it will be more brittle and you have already laid the groundwork for its overall structure during veg. generally, if you have to do LST during flower it's because if you won't there'll be an issue crowding wise, best to avoid.
UmbrellaCorpCow
UmbrellaCorpCow
@Jaindoh, didn't see this comment til now, she's definitely still growing which is giving me some relief that I haven't stunted her I'm pretty happy with her leaves atm. Still really nice and lush green. I've been removing some bottom growth around 8 so far I think on the lower and leaving the rest I may do some minor pulling out of the branches if she's too tightly packed in the centre but leaving her to finish stretching before tying down in proper flower. We've enjoyed the process so far it's been amazing watching her grow now its all watching and reacting. No leaf spots atm really, minor tip burns occurring tho so need to sort that apart from that we're just pretty much watching her lol its a pleasure really mad plants lol
Jaindoh
Jaindoh
@UmbrellaCorpCow, you are likely to see some stretch but it's probably going to be 8in max. In my experience the only other main thing that makes plants barely stretch is when theyre basically completely rooted out in their container. As strong as modern autos are, it's hard to think they've done that in 5 weeks. The stretch will be good, the extra nodes on those colas will all have bud, and the nodal spacing should be tight. I use very similar training techniques myself. How much it stretches is going to be strain and pheno dependent.
Jaindoh
Jaindoh
@UmbrellaCorpCow, this shape will control the stretch very well. Super resilient strains are even good for advanced growers, depending on the conditions you have. Big fan of Royal Queen. The only thing I would add about your training is that this is a shit ton of colas which will split the growth a bit too much for yield (i've done the same thing repeatedly). Next time do the same thing but cut the vertical branches and only keep 8 growth tips. With autoflowers, you don't get to control when they start flowering, which means you can miss the best windows to do things like remove colas that will end up as larf or crowding. You're probably going to have crowding issues, so be careful about mold. honestly I almost think you might should clear out some of the stuff in the middle despite it flipping, but it's a really tough call with autos.
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Tmasm
Tmasmweek 4
Boa sorte com sua menina Aqueles dias que dizemos para nós mesmos, (maldita hora que fui mexer) 2 dias atrás, posicionar extração que estava pendurada provisoriamente, e deixei cair partiu 2 meninas 😵😭🤧 Pelhor e automáticas 😔 uma de 2 semanas esta colar mas sem grade esperança, e segunda partiu mesmo ainda tentei colar, mas murchou 😔😭🤧 Maldita hora que fui mexer 🤬
Tmasm
Tmasm
UmbrellaCorpCow
UmbrellaCorpCow
@Tmasm, ah well then hopefully! Fingers crossed. I snapped my main stem low stress training she wilted for about an hour and went back to praying leaves around 3 hours later, tough little ladies 💪
Tmasm
Tmasm
@UmbrellaCorpCow, não desisti dela, não morreu ainda com 1⁰ nó bom, resto está colado mas com má cara ☺️.
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GrowerOG
GrowerOGweek 7
Hello mate, nice work!! Good luck and happy journey with your ladie!! 🙌
GrowerOG
GrowerOG
@UmbrellaCorpCow,I agree with this type of thinking! ;)
UmbrellaCorpCow
UmbrellaCorpCow
@GrowerOG, thanks very proud atm with our first grow regardless of the result! She's been amazing
Friendlystoner420
Friendlystoner420week 12
Hey bro nice plants! Im about to start my first autoflowers could you please tell me how much plants you have grown? And did you really got does beatifull buds woth only that fecida lamp? Are 120 watts enough to get buds like yours??
UmbrellaCorpCow
UmbrellaCorpCow
@Friendlystoner420, hey cheers man, me and my wife have currently grown white widow, wedding cake, northern lights, orion f1 and just cracking some new seeds from taste budz, yeah I used that light singularly throughout all my grows although I could do with another if growing more than one plant, but yes with its dimmer function I found that its easy to adapt to problems. A lot of factors go into achieving even popcorn nugs, the right watering schedule, not stressing her, the right light intensity, humidity. Some gals are fussy, others could sprout on a dessert rock and be happy. But definitely recommend fecida.
CanarianGrow92
CanarianGrow92week 5
Wow nice job 👌💥
UmbrellaCorpCow
UmbrellaCorpCow
@CanarianGrow92, thank you she's coming along nicely, all be it slowly lol
Jaindoh
Jaindohweek 11
she's fuckin huge, holy shit! congrats, doing well through flower =)
OG_Mane
OG_Maneweek 3
Hello! Very detailed and great report! What time you usually water plant ? Did you make lst before watering or after?
UmbrellaCorpCow
UmbrellaCorpCow
@OG_Mane, around 8pm at night I think, every 4-5 days in veg and 3-4 during flower. Lst after watering as the water can dislodge and disturb your tie down/stake down points, good luck bro