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LED/450W
Light
LED/450W
Light
Indoor
Room Type
Defoliation
weeks Technique
Soil
Grow medium
Strain
00seeds2 - 00 KUSH
White Widow Autoflower
ILGM
Growing it
Easy
Resistance
Neutral
It was very easy to grow. I wished I had fimed it. Also wish I had it closer to the light early on as she got so stretchy and tall. Very little on defoliation needed. She smells wonderful! Will give smoke report later. Update: she's deliciously yummy. Some was super smooth and fragrant. I had a small bit of the dryer nug and I really enjoy this strain. It is my second favorite behind the sour stomper. Very easy to grow. I will grow this again in the future.
The Outcome
Week 11
Harvest
What's on the scales?
116
gram
ounce
Bud dry weight
What's on the scales?
360.4
gram
ounce
Bud wet weight
Harvested
1
Number of plants harvested
Grow Room
0.14
ft²
Grow Room size
0.26
g / watt
828.57
g / m²
116
g / plant
7.14
plant / m²
3214.29
watt / m²
Tastes like
Earthy
Flowery
Mint
Feels like
40% Sativa 60% Indica

Positive effects

Creative
Giggly
Hungry

Negative effects

Dry mouth
Nutrients
Noted some really nice fattening up of the pistils and colas.
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BeefWellingtons BeefWellingtons
5 years ago
Well this was my second harvest with this strain. I have to say it's easy to grow, and very strong. I was surprised at how big she got after my last couple of grows. I really like it! I will attempt some fim on my next grow, I would like more large colas than just the huge one. She was a good plant. I have to remember to add cal-mag supplement on week 3 next run. Unfortunately I have to move next month and have to cancel my next run as I don't want to move plants. You can really see the 'White' part of this White Widow in the video at the end! I want to thank you fellow growers for all your help. I really appreciate it!! You guys and gals are my support network. Thank you for being here for me. I will give smoke report and update flavors and dry weight once these buds are done drying. Popcorn bowl was not included in wet weight. I hope by my detailed watering and nutrients notes it will help someone with their grow. Good luck and happy growing!! Update: second smoke report, nearly drank the bong water instead of my beer while watching Hollaback girl with Gwen Stafani. Yeah, it's good. ;)
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Grow Questions
BeefWellingtons
BeefWellingtonsstarted grow question 5 years ago
Ok so I have this big fan leaf showing issues. The last 2 pictures of this week are of this leaf. The leaf is about halfway up the plant and no other leaves are showing same issue. To me it looks like N deficiency, but I have N excessive on the top of plant with dark clawing tips
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Leaves. Curl down
like
Athos
Athosanswered grow question 5 years ago
Sorry but no, it is not N deficiency. If you look closely you will notice that it is interveinal yellowing (the veins are dark green and in between them the leaf is yellowing) and that's a classic magnesium deficiency. That can have 2 reason: the first and most obvious is magnesium deficiency because of lack of magnesium (not likely since you are feeding cal / mag) or due magnesium lockout due either P or K toxicity (both when given in excess lockout many seconday elements, magnesium among them). Looking at the feeding strength of your current (and past) weeks I can tell that you are feeding really strongly for soil; that your leaves are dark green, have some burnt tips and clawing (leaves tips are facing down) also shows nitrogen toxicity. Also the top leaves have really thin blades, that's another sign of either p or K toxicity. for future reference I would try not to go over 1.4 to 1.7 EC in flower adn feed no more than once every 5 to 7 days. For now stop feeding altogether and let the plant consume the excess nutrients present in the soil and its own stores, do not feed gain, you are too close to harvest (1 or 2 weeks I would say).
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BeefWellingtons
BeefWellingtonsweek 6
So I just found out my ph pen is totally off. I have drops so I was able to get the ph range into 6.5 area. I fed her .7 gallons of water.
TheBudWhisperer
TheBudWhisperer
@BeefWellingtons, I’ve found my digi meter to be unreliable at times as well. Too lazy to recalibrate so I’m kickn it old school now!👍. Grows lookn good brotha!
BeefWellingtons
BeefWellingtonsweek 11
Checked tricomes and she was ready to go.
BeefWellingtons
BeefWellingtonsweek 11
Side note, I had to remove one of the side lamps for use on my next grow. That new diary will be up on Thursday.
TheBudWhisperer
TheBudWhispererweek 11
Excellent chop dude and best of luck with the move. Merry Christmas 🎄!
BeefWellingtons
BeefWellingtons
@TheBudWhisperer, well he is a good friend and a smart person, so that's why I was upset...he even told me my sour stomper was 'fire', which I agree, that shit was/is fire. So my worry us that he doesn't think I have the skills to recreate 'fire', which I know I can do. I will try to guide him soon on the transplant, and we will see how they go from there. I think I'm going to start the grow (I have pics and notes from their first week) and update that on here if possible.
TheBudWhisperer
TheBudWhisperer
@BeefWellingtons, lol! Then that’s when u gotta step out and not sugar coat it! Threaten ‘me with the bitch slap if he don’t start listen’n! 😂
BeefWellingtons
BeefWellingtons
@TheBudWhisperer, I guess my issue is he asked for instructions which I gave him. Then he just did his own thing, which was damaging the plants.
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BeefWellingtons
BeefWellingtonsweek 9
Fed .9 gallons of h20 at around 7ph. Run off was 1270 ppm and around 6.1 ph. Does this sound normal? I haven't fed nutrients in 4 feedings and my ppm seems to be going up?
BeefWellingtons
BeefWellingtons
@TheBudWhisperer, well all cards on the table, that other grow was in hydro, which would have finished earlier, but like I mentioned I did a crap ton of defoiliating and bending colas, it was a stressed plant for sure. I'm guessing 2 weeks out from now.
TheBudWhisperer
TheBudWhisperer
@BeefWellingtons, now that was a good idea with the lower strength feed. If last run was 15 weeks it’ll be interesting to see where this one finishes. Got some WW gems on the way in the mail myself😎
BeefWellingtons
BeefWellingtons
@TheBudWhisperer, I gave them a 1/4 strength .7 gallons of h20 and nutes this morning. Next watering will begin the 7-10 day flush. I did check them out and I know I'm beyond 7 days for harvest. My other ww took 15 weeks and I did a lot of breaking stems and defoiliating. With this one being minimum stress, I'm pretty sure 2 weeks out will be perfect.
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Valentino1sttime
Valentino1sttimeweek 10
no shit eh its like our ladies are sisters haha good job man yours will deff turn out better than mine proving better wattage and bigger pots
BeefWellingtons
BeefWellingtons
@Valentino1sttime, almost the same size plants, lol
Valentino1sttime
Valentino1sttimeweek 10
im only running a 250 hps :(
BeefWellingtons
BeefWellingtons
@Valentino1sttime, well true watts for this led is like 183, so I think we are close.
HerbalEdu
HerbalEduweek 11
Great grow, happy drying and curing.
bushybush
bushybushweek 11
Nice plant, wishing you healthy and good harvest! ☺️
BeefWellingtons
BeefWellingtonsweek 10
I think I'm still about 10 days out so I added some Botanicare Ripe which suggests feeding to the end, but I'm just adding it this one time...I keep forgetting to add it to my grow. Also, it dropped the ph down really bad, had to pull out ph up for the first time.
BeefWellingtons
BeefWellingtonsweek 8
Fed .8 gallons of ph 6.7 water today and rotated her 45 degrees for better light coverage.
BeefWellingtons
BeefWellingtonsweek 6
Fed her .7 gallons at 6.5 range ph. I am a little nervous as she looks kinda droopy but I hope that is just from lack of water and not a bigger issue. I will keep an eye out.
BeefWellingtons
BeefWellingtonsweek 2
Just gave her another sip of bottled water, she looks good. Probably will transplant her tomorrow.
MaryJaneUSA
MaryJaneUSAweek 7
Nice plant and congrats on your advancement to a master !
BeefWellingtons
BeefWellingtons
@MaryJaneUSA, true true. All I can say is that I think I've got an good drying/curing process down now as the aroma is coming back and hay smell/chlorophyll is diminishing.
MaryJaneUSA
MaryJaneUSA
@BeefWellingtons, remember, it’s quality of the smoke. Not the quantity! We only get better as we move along...
BeefWellingtons
BeefWellingtons
@MaryJaneUSA, I think if they read my diaries they would demote me, lol.
TheBudWhisperer
TheBudWhispererweek 9
Lookn prime buddy. Re; branch chop - if @athos is right about u only being a couple weeks from harvest, I’d leave those branches be. You’re gonna have a smoke off this one for sure and I wouldn’t want to stress my plant out and limit bud growth in the last couple weeks of flower. Worst case if you do - I wouldn’t chop more than 1 every few days to limit the shock of it. I honestly would’ve expected a longer flower period for WW but only ever grown a cross of it myself. Good luck bro!👊
TheBudWhisperer
TheBudWhisperer
@BeefWellingtons, if that’s the case and it’s previously demonstrated itself to be a resilient strain then IMO it might be worth a shot to increase bud production elsewhere. I’d do a little at a time every couple days over this week or so if u do pull the trigger and cut em. If it’s not a short finisher then I’d say that this week is the hard cutoff to do it. I generally try not to touch my plants (save light pruning) after end of week 3 flower. Hope it helps dude👍👊
BeefWellingtons
BeefWellingtons
@TheBudWhisperer, I believe I am 3 weeks out. Based on my first grow of ww. That took 15 weeks but had a lot of defoiliating and supercroped tops. So at least 3 weeks out imo. I will know better in 2. I was just not sure if it will help with flower production or just end up elongating my grow and adding a couple of weeks to harvest. I expect this harvest to be some time after week 12.
TheBudWhisperer
TheBudWhispererweek 7
Dude - I run into this issue all the time on my soil grows. It’s like it takes the pot forever to dry out and it totally screws with my nute schedule (actually part of the reason I went to coco indoors). She should start drinking a lot more soon anyway. only concern I’d have with watering less, is not getting enough runoff after each watering - keep an eye on any signs of lockout and please keep it updated on GD. Interested to see how this plays out!👍👊. As far as the height is concerned - u consider supercropping the top of er? It would help if ur battling height differences in the tent and it’s still early enough to do it I think. Did it once myself with an auto around week 2 of flower (by accident) and it really supercharged the other branches. Just a thought anyway. Good luck bud, can’t wait to see her colours!
TheBudWhisperer
TheBudWhisperer
@BeefWellingtons, Hey man - whatever you think is gonna work best. I'm a big proponent of making your grow your own and we only learn from respective experience👍. How much water you afford the plant is often based on what stage of it's growth cycle it's in. In your case, this girl is in the stretch/transition phase and as such, she's gonna start gulping down water generally faster than she did in veg. soon. Regarding runoff - the rule of thumb is between 10-20% every watering, whether it's coco or soil. Not only does it allow you to test the ph of what was in the medium (if you have something to collect it in), it also ensures that you run through the new nute water completely and (hopefully), flush out the lingering old stuff. With soil, and at this stage, I would probably try running a full litre or more on it and see what ends up coming out the bottom. When you have a decent amount of runoff, say .1 - .2L then ur good. It really is beneficial to the plant's growth. Now keep in mind, this won't solve your issue with watering every 4-5 days. if you're watering properly (and I think you are minus the runoff point), then the plant needs what it needs, when it needs it. 3 days or 5 days - it's up to the soil and the plant brother. This is what soil is supposed to do anyway - it has it's own nutrients built in for the first few weeks and it holds on to nutes that you give it too. You have two options on that front. #1 amend your soil with more purlite - like 2/3 perlite and 1/3 soil. She'll drain quicker and dry out faster if you want to stick to a more frequent nute sched. Or you could try coco & perlite on a 50/50 mix - it's got excellent drainage and good nute holding properties. Essentially the same thing as soil, only it drys out quicker and is completely neutral in terms of nutrients which allows you to dictate what it gets and when😉. Coco absolutely requires you to water through whereas soil is a little more forgiving. IMO- ur kinda stuck with whatever sched. the soil allows for given the current environment. Shitty and unfixable answer, I'm sorry. But also understand that I just got stoned and went off on this response! Cheers homie and happy Friday! Whatever you decide, I'm watching with interest! PEACE!👊
BeefWellingtons
BeefWellingtons
@TheBudWhisperer, I did supercrop a couple of my colas on my first grow, about 4 or 5 weeks into flower, freaked me out to do it. I thought about it with this one, but it looks like if I pull her to the wall, she will get more light coverage and still be far enough away from light so she won't get cooked...that way no supercrop will be necessary. So the other thing I want to ask is how much runoff do you recommend? I just put the liquid in the pot and that's it. I do about 20-25% of the total volume (3 gallon), or .7-.9 gallon per feeding, but like you said it takes way too long to dry out and doesn't allow enough nutrients to be fed as often as I'm sure she needs them?
MissBling
MissBlingweek 10
Wow! x
BeefWellingtons
BeefWellingtons
@MissBling, the colas really pop out for this strain, even if it takes a few weeks longer.
TheBudWhisperer
TheBudWhispererweek 8
Gettn there dude👌😉👍
BeefWellingtons
BeefWellingtons
@TheBudWhisperer, yeah, this one is going to be good
WillyWonka
WillyWonkaweek 7
Nice work man! WW is a beautiful plant and a classic strain, I hope it goes well for you. You’ll be happy to know I’ve just ordered a digital ph reader as well as ph up & down. I’ll be following your grow keenly. Good luck and happy growing my friend!
BeefWellingtons
BeefWellingtons
@WillyWonka, you are on your way to happy plants!
cylentknight
cylentknightweek 3
White Widow is one of the strains in my next grow. Looking good so far. I'll be following so I can compare grows.
BeefWellingtons
BeefWellingtons
@@cylentknight, it's my favorite so far. Handles heat and nutes well too