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weeks 11
ScrOG
weeks 11
Soil
Grow medium
5 L
Pot Size
0.98 L
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Week 1. Vegetation
a year ago
2.54 cm
18 hrs
6.5
No Smell
80 %
Filling this out at start of flower but this is my very first grow and it’s had some speed bumps along the way but overall I’d say it’s going well
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Week 2. Vegetation
a year ago
2.54 cm
18 hrs
6.5
No Smell
75 %
Didn’t end up using nutrients as early as I should have
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Week 3. Vegetation
a year ago
2.54 cm
18 hrs
6.5
No Smell
75 %
Was going good here but about to run into issues
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Week 4. Vegetation
a year ago
12.7 cm
18 hrs
6.5
No Smell
75 %
Here is what I believe was a phosphorus issue but I can’t remember nor did I really know also I was under watering
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Week 5. Vegetation
a year ago
12.7 cm
18 hrs
6.5
No Smell
60 %
Re potted here this is when I figured out I was under watering
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Week 6. Vegetation
a year ago
12.7 cm
18 hrs
6.5
No Smell
60 %
Looking much better here after recovering and proper water. I was definitely giving nutrients here but not a lot
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Week 7. Vegetation
a year ago
20.32 cm
18 hrs
6.5
No Smell
55 %
Here’s where it started to pick back up, did multiple toppings and LST
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Week 8. Vegetation
a year ago
20.32 cm
18 hrs
6.5
No Smell
55 %
Going good here had a little scare I thought I had some herms but turned out to just be some strange growth so good deal
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Week 9. Flowering
a year ago
20.32 cm
18 hrs
6.5
No Smell
55 %
Nutrients 3
Calmag 0.528 mll
Medi One - Green Planet Nutrients
Medi One 2.113 mll
Massive Bloom Formulation - Green Planet Nutrients
Massive Bloom Formulation 3.17 mll
Alright here’s first week of flower plants didn’t veg as big as I would have liked but we’ll save that for the next grow, I’m giving enough nutrients now for them and to me they seem very happy I’ve still got another week to upload but I’ll do that tomorrow, hoping for some big ole juicy buds in the future
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Week 10. Flowering
a year ago
40.64 cm
18 hrs
6.5
No Smell
55 %
Nutrients 3
CALiMAG 0.528 mll
Medi One - Green Planet Nutrients
Medi One 2.113 mll
Massive Bloom Formulation - Green Planet Nutrients
Massive Bloom Formulation 5.283 mll
I’m liking this I think, it’s not looking like we’re gonna fill in every square but we’re looking pretty full. Adding the nutrients using in lmk if you got any good suggestions on nutes, also took some clones before flower and I think they survived.
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millerman543
millerman543started grow question a year ago
When I add my nutrients into the gallon it sometimes take 9ml ph down to get it to 6.5. Is there a point when the amount of ph solution you’re using could harm the plant? Or as long as it’s properly PHd it doesn’t matter?
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Genji87
Genji87answered grow question 7 months ago
i,m a newbie too, but i registrate this too, i would day it depends on what kind of PH Down you use. There are different types of and they interakt different. But mostly its Acid which drives your EC Value higher then it is without PH down. So if you use much of it, you eventually lower your nutrients to hold a EC Value under 2. If you think further that means youre using less nutrients at the end because of it.
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nerdz
nerdzanswered grow question a year ago
Dump as much as you need to get your target pH. My water is like 8.8pH out of the tap and when I'm feeding super light near the start of the grow, the nutes only drag my pH down to like 8.0. I put whatever I need in order to get to 5.8, which much lower than your target. If it's giving you trust issues, my diaries might give you some confidence. Don't overthink it. pH to your target and call it a day. Good luck!
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AutoflowersSucK
AutoflowersSucKanswered grow question a year ago
There's no substitute for a quality pH down product. They are not all created equal. And I would also suggest that when you pH your nutrient solution, DO NOT dump 10ml of pH down in your water in one douche. That's a great way to lock out calcium. If you add Phosphoric Acid too quickly to a nutrient solution, you might notice a cloudy appearance immediately form where the acid flows into the water. That's your calcium getting instantly locked out. pHing your nutrient solution is a slow and careful process. For example, when i am adjusting a 5 gallon container from a 7.4 pH down to where i want it which is 6.2, i'll first take a reading to see where I'm starting. So 7.4 is my baseline. Then i take my eye dropper and apply 20 drops, 1 drop at a time in different spots on the water surface. Then i stir and test. 6.8 pH, ok, then i add another 15 drops in the same manner, stir and test. 6.5, ok, i add 10 more drops, stir and test, 6.3. Ok, i add 3 more drops, stir and test, and after that my pH might hit the low 6.2's or high 6.1's. Then i let the solution sit for a few hours. Then i come back and re-test. A good quality pH down should keep your pH reasonably stable. And after 2 hours you come back and re-test your pH and it's still the same as 2 hours prior, then it's a good pH down product. If it's fluctuated and you have to adjust, then adjust it to where you want and then water in, but you might wanna think about a different pH down product. We're lucky in Canada in that we have so many great hydroponic and garden shops with good quality items.
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millerman543
millerman543started grow question a year ago
I’m about to go into week 3 flower in 3 days. My plants it seems have been less focused on stretch for the past couple days, more on growing the colas I would say. would start week 3 be a good time to do heavy defolia/lollypop?
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Techniques. Defoliation
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Organomananswered grow question a year ago
Lollipop yes, heavy defoliation, no. ALL of the plants energy to grow is made in/by the leaves. Less leaves = less energy being made = less potential growth (smaller flowers). Removing a large amount of leaves from plants that size would severely effect the plants ability to grow flowers to their full potential. The plant relies on those leaves to make the energy it needs to grow the flowers!
millerman543
millerman543started grow question a year ago
I’m starting week 3 flower and giving my plants ph balanced osmosis water with 4calmag and a 4-3-3 organic liquid nutrient and the 1-2-3 massive bloom green planet nutes at recommend dose but I’ve got some dying leaves on the lower growth. Is this normal or under water or nute?
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LSchnabelanswered grow question a year ago
It’s natural for that to happen. What you are seeing is the plant recognizes that leaf as not producing so the plant is pulling its nutrients from that leaf to sacrifice it to feed other growth. I usually try to eliminate a lot of the bottom foliage to force everything up to the top part of the plant for increase bud production. Other than that I think your girl is looking great. Keep doing what you are doing I hope this helps.
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Week 11. Flowering
a year ago
50.8 cm
12 hrs
27 °C
6.5
Normal
55 %
21 °C
5 L
1 L
Nutrients 3
CALiMAG 1.057 mll
Medi One - Green Planet Nutrients
Medi One 2.113 mll
Massive Bloom Formulation - Green Planet Nutrients
Massive Bloom Formulation 5.283 mll
These women are looking good I think but it seems to be slow going? Maybe I’m just impatient but I’ve upped the nutes a bit. I’ve got a couple tiny yellowing leafs if anyone got any suggestions about that lmk. I’m always paranoid that I’m over watering so it could be under watered I need a better system for watering need more volume I think
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Week 12. Flowering
a year ago
50.8 cm
12 hrs
27 °C
6.5
Normal
55 %
21 °C
5 L
1 L
Nutrients 7
CALiMAG 1.057 mll
Silica 0.264 mll
Molasse 1.3 mll
Today is day 23 of flower. I had to go out of town for 4 days and came back to some very dry ladies. However before I left I did do double the volume of normal watering with no nutrients to do a flush sort of. I came back to some droopy leaves and stems and some signs of under watering I believe but that’s how it goes I guess. Wondering if I should do some defoliation after the plants recover?
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millerman543
millerman543started grow question a year ago
Week 5 of flower starts tomorrow and I think my buds aren’t fattening up like I want? They have started to a little in the past couple days but I’m wondering if I’ve got my nutes right or if they need more or more volume? Any good suggestions? I updated my nutes on my diary.
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Buds. Not fattening
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Sit_Ubu_Sit_Good_Doganswered grow question a year ago
Your plant is healthy. Don't treat it like foie gras. React to deficiencies and toxicties as you normally would, but don't get smart and try to force feed it more. Genetics is primary factor for size of resultingn colas - assuming good health an some attempt to max out DLI (daily light integral, read wiki). However, if you grow out too many branches/colas, the overall size of each will suffer whiel the yield will rmain relatively the same. DLI (light) determines potential yield along with genetics. So, if you capture the light in the entire area (specficialyl the top of leaves fill entire area) and limit it to 2-3 colas per sq ft, you'll maximize yield and should have decent sized buds relative to the genetics at work. More colas than that just means more trimming effort, smaller buds, more larf at bottom and same yield ... Embarassingly, it took me too long to figure this out. I remember asking some people if this effect was something that occurs after i grew some plants with fewer colas than i normally did and seemd to notice this trend, and was met with incredulity when i brought it up. The 'experts' i asked in a large chat channel here essentially said more colas = more buds and that is far too simplified relative to reality. That set me back 2 years before i found much better info about this and going to be more dedicated to implementing it in a systematic way. (check out cocoforcannabis dr photon's corner.. the comments to these articles are iffy, but sometimes the conversations are worth it too).
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Week 13. Flowering
a year ago
50.8 cm
12 hrs
27 °C
6.5
Normal
1000 PPM
55 %
21 °C
5 L
1 L
Nutrients 7
CALiMAG 1.057 mll
Silica 0.264 mll
Molasse 1.3 mll
Week 5 flower starts today and I’m starting to see why they say 2-3 colas per ft now. But regardless I think we’re looking pretty good. Hoping to see some real fat buds in the next 3 weeks to harvest!! Comment with any suggestions I just started putting 1tsp per gallon molasses in
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millerman543
millerman543started grow question a year ago
I recently switched to 5 gal buckets for mixing my nutrient solution in and it was going well until I foolishly left my solution out and open to grow various slimes and what not. (At least I got to use half of it) What’s the proper way to store your solution so it doesn’t do that
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m0useanswered grow question a year ago
Lid closed in a cool dark area is ideal, no longer then 4 days like leftovers. airtight if possible. If there is room in the fridge its good. Or freeze it and let it thaw out on the soil line in summer like how some people water orchids. Air stone can help like @Organoman suggested, it will also promote aerobic bacteria vs anaerobic and that can sometimes be a bonus. To @UBU's point, chloramine does not off gas, but you can destabilize it with UV or Vit C aka ascorbic acid then it can be off gassed. But there is so little in the water its not going to affect the grow greatly. Cannabis does not seem to be overly sensitive to CL from my experience with it, unlike some carnivorous plants, they can be really picky. Good Luck!
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Week 14. Flowering
a year ago
50.8 cm
12 hrs
27 °C
6.5
Strong
1000 PPM
55 %
21 °C
5 L
1 L
Nutrients 7
CALiMAG 1.057 mll
Silica 0.264 mll
Molasse 1.3 mll
Buds are fattening up now thankfully we’ve got about 3 more weeks left of these ladies before harvest. Trichomes getting milky no signs of amber yet so I’m hoping we get some real fatties. The smell is amazing trying to keep the temps down tho about 80-84 mid day and 65 at night.
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millerman543started grow question a year ago
Is it too late do take off large fan leaves should I let it ride to avoid stress on the plants or should I take off some large fan leaves? Lower buds a little under developed 2-3 weeks left before harvest
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Grey_Wolfanswered grow question a year ago
those leaves are the energy source for your plant they absorb the light and send that energy thru to the buds I only reccomend removing leaves if they are underneath and not getting hardly any light or they are blocking the buds from recieving light and stopping air movement which is important to combat bud rot etc So in your case its not a matter of too late but just not needed imo
millerman543
millerman543started grow question a year ago
On the breeder site it says 8-10 week flower and week 7 starts in 3 days, should I start to flush on week 7 here’s what they look like.
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Roberts
Robertsanswered grow question a year ago
Continue to feed about a week then flush for a week to then harvest
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Week 15. Flowering
a year ago
50.8 cm
12 hrs
27 °C
6.5
Strong
1000 PPM
55 %
21 °C
5 L
1 L
Nutrients 4
Silica 0.528 mll
Massive Bloom Formulation - Green Planet Nutrients
Massive Bloom Formulation 5.283 mll
Liquid Weight - Green Planet Nutrients
Liquid Weight 2.113 mll
These are very sticky and very smelly I’m probably going to do 1 or 2 more nutrient feedings until I flush for 7 days. Then I reckon I’ll let them druy leave them in dark for a couple days and then chop chop. Very suprised with these tbh and ready to nail the cure 4/13 start of week 7
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Week 16. Flowering
10 months ago
50.8 cm
12 hrs
27 °C
6.5
Strong
1000 PPM
55 %
21 °C
5 L
1 L
Final week gonna finish strong. Only water from here on out maybe a little resin or weight just to get that last little juice out of em. Other than that looking fantastic
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millerman543
millerman543started grow question 10 months ago
Is it right to be starting flush from now on ? Today is the start of week 8. The breeder says 8-10 weeks. Maybe I add some carbs and stuff while flushing still? To me it seems only a couple ambers mostly cloudy but 20% clear trichs? First time grower here
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00110001001001111Oanswered grow question 10 months ago
your plant doesn't look like it has a toxicity or overfed in any clear way. carbs feed microbes and do nothing directly for the plant.. this will have very limited effect at this stage of the game. Are you seeing amber outside of the top colas? Make sure not to look at trichomes on the leaves. I'd guess you ahve 7-10 days left and could go water-only if you wanted. Don't do excessive runoff though, the plant still needs building blocks (law of conservation of mass). to ripen. The thing is, what if you have 15 days left? Now, you'll have a plant 80% yellow when you still need photosynthesis to power the rest of the ripening... so, don't be afraid to change course if the canopy takes a nosedive too soon and you don't see enough amber/cloudy to your personal preference. flushing just to flush is not a good reason. There should always be a reason behind it... just as blindly defoliating isn't beneficial, despite common belief. This observable effect is no different than people believing that stress is a cause of heartburn.. it is not, yet some still cling to that belief. Even doctors in the 90s long after it was known not likely to be true contineud to spread this false belief. Molecular chemisty is beyond the resolution of human senses. I was lazy and gave water only the last 7-8 days of last grow. Got a fade, but only at very end. I did this because i was lazy not beacuse i think it changes the taste of the weed. A plant that had long-term toxicities is going to taste like shit even if you flush it. as long as you avoid overfeeding or react to it quickly when it does start to progress, all is well. Your foliage does not exhibit a problem relative to stayge of life cycle (entering senescence at this point.. some damage is inevitable and depends a lot on genetics)
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Week 17. Flowering
10 months ago
50.8 cm
12 hrs
27 °C
6.5
Strong
1000 PPM
55 %
21 °C
5 L
1 L
Here it is folks we’re harvesting any day now no more water. It’s been epic ready to nail the dry and cure. Harvesting in the coming days 🍃🍂 Mostly ready for the next grow I’ve learned an increadible amount in 4 months thanks to everyone for answering my questions and helping along the way!!!! Edit: harvest day today 4/30 everything went perf
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Week 18. Harvest
10 months ago
Happy Harvest Day!
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For my very first grow they did very well from what I can tell they are very potent smell is amazing and had a blast and learned a lot growing them. One issue I had was I feel like they ended up kind of small, this could be my fault partly but I cloned one and sitting next to my other strains from seed they still look small and very bushy. Overall awesome grow and may visit again depending on how the smoke is. Ps 161 is dry and trimmed weight
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Thanks for the help everyone looking forward to future grows. Went way better than I imagined my first grow going.
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millerman543
millerman543commentedweek 9a year ago
Also we’re on 12-12 here forgot to update that
Hattiwatti
Hattiwatticommenteda year ago
@millerman543, you can easily edit your diary if you forget something 🦅
James
Jamescommentedweek 10a year ago
Good luck and happy growing mate 🌱
Jacks_Pot
Jacks_Potcommentedweek 10a year ago
They seem to like in there 😊Have a nice flowering cycle 🙏
nerdz
nerdzcommentedweek 10a year ago
Plants looking good, well done
millerman543
millerman543commenteda year ago
@nerdz, Thankyou brother
L8bloomr1008
L8bloomr1008commentedweek 14a year ago
Lookin good man, you can smell the finish line ✊🏾
420DeepGrow
420DeepGrowcommentedweek 12a year ago
Lindos erizos, buen trabajo 🤩
Hattiwatti
Hattiwatticommentedweek 11a year ago
Looking good 🌿
Hempface86
Hempface86commentedweek 11a year ago
Looking good 👍 happy growing ✌️
Krisis
Krisiscommentedweek 10a year ago
Looking nice. Good luck with the clones 🤞💚
spyder
spydercommentedweek 10a year ago
good luck with the grow.. enjoy
CHILLING_RACOONS
CHILLING_RACOONScommentedweek 10a year ago
Seeeems exceptional 😍😍😍 good job mate 💜🍀💜🍀💜🍀💜🍀
Inganjawetrust
Inganjawetrustcommentedweek 10a year ago
Looks good. Congrats on the new hobby ✌️😎💨
Dabking
Dabkingcommentedweek 1810 months ago
Nice harvest
millerman543
millerman543commented10 months ago
@Dabking, Thankyou bother
benzos_n_milk
benzos_n_milkcommentedweek 1810 months ago
good job mate!
millerman543
millerman543commented10 months ago
@benzos_n_milk, Thankyou sir
DaddyPrime2
DaddyPrime2commentedweek 710 months ago
You know how to train just fine! lol with the ones you’ve commented on of mine, I waited till they had 8 nodes or so, top it and wait and then super crop her in half and go from there if you want a similar effect to what I did. Ps. Mine was from clone so its branching was superb at the height it was compared to anything from seed. A 12 inch plant with 12 nodes lol
DaddyPrime2
DaddyPrime2commented10 months ago
@millerman543, I originally started with a bag seed and took clones and once I got real seeds, I just started playing around and seeing how far I could push it. And it was nice bro have peace of mind with that but also seeing how much abuse they’ll take. For me, breaking branches was more often because of unstable training practices. They need to set like that and not be loosely tied so when the pot moves funky, it yanks it around or jostles it ya know
millerman543
millerman543commented10 months ago
@DaddyPrime2, super goat I was real afraid of super crop cuz it’s my first grow but I think imma be doing it now cuz I practiced on some smaller branches
millerman543
millerman543commentedweek 12a year ago
Updated my nutrients I’m using, lmk what you think.
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