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FoxGrow FoxGrow
5 months ago
Day 33: Pheno 1 is thriving and building many bud sites with pistil hairs. Transition from pre-flowering to flowering is taking place. Notice a heavy stretch in main shoot. Pheno 2 is still showing severe signs of overwatering and nitrogen excess, which doesn't make sense. The PH also is dialed in. It should have bounced back from the strong soil by now. I tightly monitor the watering and give it good cycles of dry and wet periods. Since this was the overall picture since week two, I start to suspect, this could be a genetic instability or damaged DNA?! It still grows and makes progress but doesn't show any signs of building bud sites. The leaves are absolutely weak, leathery and dark greenish as if it was over-fertilized.
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FoxGrow
FoxGrowstarted grow question 6 months ago
Pheno one showed very "leathery", weak, hanging leaves of dark green. Same time the fungus gnats had a run and the population doubled. After second LST also the stronger plant showed those signs on the younger upper leaves. Also curled down a little. Slight nitrogen toxicity?
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Leaves. Curl down
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Haze
Hazeanswered grow question 6 months ago
Hallo, yes its overfeeded but no Problem. She will handle it. What soil Do you Use?
FoxGrow
FoxGrowstarted grow question 5 months ago
Pheno 2: Symptoms as if overwatered and over-fertilized (N). First can't possibly be true, second neither. Neatly monitored dry and wet periods. PH dialed in. It still grows. Pheno 1 gets treated completely the same and does fine. Instability or damaged DNA? Any possibly to save?
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Leaves. Curl down
Plant. Too short
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Organoman
Organomananswered grow question 5 months ago
Despite what you think, this plant is waaaaay over fed. All seeds are individuals and what may be fine for one, might not be ok for another.
FoxGrow
FoxGrowstarted grow question 5 months ago
Several sporadic yellow spots on leaves. Lock out due to nitrogen toxicity 2 weeks before? I will dunk and flush the plant next time I'm watering. Any clues, what this could be?
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001100010010011110
001100010010011110answered grow question 5 months ago
Why you don't listen to RQS or many other marijuana sites.. loaded with bunk info. Best Practices • Feeding: As your plants grow bigger buds, they’ll need more nutrients. this isn't really true and explains why so many have to flush so often, lol. The concentration shouldn't need to change much because the plant will take in proportionally more water. therefore you'd be providing the same grams per week per mass of plant growth. These are rates, not counting stats They give an RH suggestion without pairing it with a temperature (VPD), which is unsophisticated. 16-17C is going to result in autumn colors within a few weeks of flower phase. That's probably not optimal for photosynthesis if it starts refelcting large ranges of red and blue wavelengths. The colors you see are not absorbed by the plant being the underlying reason why this is unlikely a good thing. their ratios arent' too far off surprisingly, but i wouldn't buy into any drastic shifts. numerous studies show these ideas of bombing p or k in flower doesn't actually result in more plant mass nor higher potency. it does show excess fertilizer in runoff which isn't great for the environment or your local water system if you have one. Just self-fellating madness to feel like peopel are doing somethign profound, when the plant does 99% of the work.
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m0use
m0useanswered grow question 5 months ago
I agree with others. Give it the right NPK. something like 4-6-8 and confirm its got a good ammount of secondary macros, eg Mg, S, Ca, It looks like it could use some more Ca and Mg by the looks of it. Good Luck!
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Hazeberg
Hazeberganswered grow question 5 months ago
What are you feeding? Did you switch nutrition to support blooming? Maybe this helps a bit: https://www.royalqueenseeds.com/content/46-the-blooming-phase#best-practices
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FoxGrow
FoxGrowweek 6
@001100010010011110 Ok, either you are a spam bot or you can't read. None of your confused answer relates to my question. If you had taken the time and read my journal, you would've understood that I didn't feed the plant. As an auto it simply didn't work with the hot soil. That's why I had to flush. Other auto strains go well with that very same soil. My question was aimed at the symptoms of a nut lock out. And, three days later a few more experts taking a look, it's clear: It's a slight calmag deficiency due to ph problems and aftermath of an overfeeding. You simply didn't take the time to read properly.
RavenCookiee
RavenCookiee
@001100010010011110, you have issues buddy
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001100010010011110
@RavenCookiee, 1 month necro, good job, buddy. Maybe i should dm you, insult you, and make 3-4 public posts about it all within a few minutes. that would be a parallel.
RavenCookiee
RavenCookiee
@001100010010011110, maybe you should smoke more of what you're growing. You're majorly unrelaxed mate.
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FoxGrow
FoxGrowweek 3
All-Mix, but made a mug-sized hole in the middle with Canna seedling soil and planted it in there. I guess, she was too young (2nd week) when her roots reached out to the All-Mix.
allways_beginner
allways_beginner
@FoxGrow, look at the soil I used. Cheapest possible soil EVER : ) . Can't be the problem. Maybe I'm wrong :) .
allways_beginner
allways_beginnerweek 3
Hi. You watch the wet & dry cycle of the earth? I had gnats as well ... and the population shrunk when I started to let the soil dry between waterings. Or: get nematodes : ) .
allways_beginner
allways_beginner
@FoxGrow, hi. I simply got more of those yellow cards. Mine have 20 cm x 10 cm dimension. I placed one whole card around the plants. I still have a small population of gnats but it is under control now. If I see one ... I smash it. Neem oil can be sprayed on the plant or soil as well... it's natural but can kill the life in the soil. Never used it. If you plan on getting nematodes, I would not wait any longer.
FoxGrow
FoxGrow
@allways_beginner, yes but I’m not really sure if that’s enough. I let it dry approximately 3cm deep. Others tend to 5 I’ve read.
RavenCookiee
RavenCookieeweek 12
Oh my, those buds look very yummy 😋 Glad the soil didn't fuck up your harvest! Also, why are you drying in my basement? Looks the same for me 😅
FoxGrow
FoxGrow
@RavenCookiee, hey thanks man! Funnily the other pheno looks completely different and didn’t take the soil so well 😅 with this I’m super happy for my first grow! What an amazing hobby this is! Hehe even in the basement we have 22 degree Celsius now
Hazeberg
Hazebergweek 5
Good luck growing with both 🌱
allways_beginner
allways_beginnerweek 3
I don't know how much perlite you use. I can recommend using 20%. Makes the soil less compact. Game changer, helps with overwatering as well since soil dries out quicker.
FoxGrow
FoxGrow
@allways_beginner, Hehe looking at your Pflanzenerde pic, we could continue in German but let's stick to English in case other international growers would like to join the conversation. So, yes, the Biobizz All-Mix is pre-mixed and contains coco, humus, perlite and so on. It's known for its strong pre-fertilizing though. As I didn't apply any other fertilizers this should be the issue. Both plant suffer a little but, but one is definitely recovering better than the other. My conclusion: Only plant autos in Light Mix in the future. And yes, maybe the LST stressed them out a little bit, but that would not explain the curled down tips of the leaves and the dark green. I added new pix now. One is definitely thriving and recovering very quickly. The other one, the black sheep, is fighting since she saw the surface... :D
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allways_beginner
allways_beginnerweek 3
A recommendation: Look at my grow. I do not recommend lst in a way I didi it. I did it the first time and realized, that it is work intensive. You have to sort out every branch and you have to stay on top of this game. Therefore I would recommend topping the plant when there are three levels of branches showing. Then twist one level to get the star shape (when looked at from above). Benefit: Less labour intensive, plant stays in symmetry, plant gains heigt with every level. And so on ... . Greetings.
allways_beginner
allways_beginnerweek 3
Maybe check the main stem of the plant. I have one plant with a slightly damaged main stem... did not realize this unfortunately. It suffers up to today, it's the LSSH in my current grow and it could look similar to yours. If you've really never done lst. Im not an expert but keep the wires "loose" ... dont apply any sort of force to the plant (only slight bending in the plant's range of capabilities). I tend to overdo it as well. Do it gently. : ) Greetigs
allways_beginner
allways_beginnerweek 3
Hi. Maybe get some runoff from the pots of the plants. Each individual, then check the pH. Maybe it is "off", then correct it. Greetings.
FoxGrow
FoxGrowweek 6
I don't feed anything at all right now, because the plant is still recovering from overfeeding. I have BioBizz's Bloom and Top-Max in my shelf but wanted to wait until next week to start with 0,5ml/l of each. BioBizz Bloom contains also nitrogen, with which I'm pretty careful tight now.
FoxGrow
FoxGrowweek 5
@Organoman: That's what I suspected. It's just crazy, how sensible this strain seems to react to pre-fed soil. Do you have any solutions for me? I thought it might bounce back when it grows, but it doesn't seem to be the case at all. It will probably start flowering the next week. Would it make sense to try to wash out the pre-mixed soil? Just by washing it with 5-10l ph-adjusted water? I'm not sure, if you can "wash" pre-fertilized soil at all...