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Sugar Mango Ryder Out Door

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Outdoor
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12-12 From Seed
weeks Technique
FIMing
weeks Technique
Soil
Grow medium
Strain
00seeds2 - 00 KUSH
Sugar Mango Ryder
World of Seeds
Growing it
Normal
Resistance
Neutral
This is my first harvest from poorly prepared start. SMR grew fast and strong. She yielded extraordinary potent weed with narcotic effect. On growing, I made big mistakes. I topped her and transplanted her. She did not like that. I grow outdoor and it would have been better to leave her alone. She also stood up to over watering and overfeeding well. She survived 38 degree C heat and 80% humidity with 12 hours sun through most of her life cycle. yet she put our crazy dense nugget. SMR did exceptionally well up to bud rot. Lost half of the nugget. However, I think it is fair as WoS did say to look out for mold issues. This is a fine strain if you don't have to handle hot and humid climate. To do better, I need to: 1) leave her alone and not top her. 2) Take care of seedling inside. 3) Grow 8 plants in smaller space out door. 4) Grow in dry season. 5) Work with a feed schedule.
The Outcome
Week 14
Harvest
What's on the scales?
8.8
gram
ounce
Bud dry weight
Harvested
1
Number of plants harvested
8.8
g / plant
Tastes like
Herbs
Sweet
Feels like
100% Sativa 0% Indica

Positive effects

Happy
Hungry
Sleepy

Negative effects

Dry mouth
Nutrients
I used mined bat dung. Too strong and burned plant.
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Med_in_Tropic Med_in_Tropic
5 years ago
The stone was so strong. Has to be careful on which occasion to smoking SMR. It can totally incapacitated smoker with one small bowl. There were leaves and buds on trims. After drying, there was small amount of trichome on trims. So, I put these trims in a vodka bottle. I I did try the trim infused vodka. It does not supposed to have stoning effect without decarboxylation but it did get me a stone. I took one drink before I worked out in the gym. After 30 minutes of running, suddenly I was lazy. A little later, I got in to my weight routine. And I became Master Rochi in Dragon ball. Pumping iron with no pain. I knew it wast SMR doing this and stop myself from lifting too hard. With infused vodka, the stone was mild but lasted 4 hours. Infusing trims made vodka tasted a bit like alcoholic tea. I do like the taste but this is not a party drink. People will get drunk and fall asleep all over. I like water curing. It is fast. Little smell during drying. Leaves almost came off by themselves after three days in warm water. So trimming is simplified. The product has very little smell and aroma. Weight is reduced as there is less vegetable matters. Not for commercial grower. Great for space saving. Also burned really clean. I decarboxylate with 4 minutes in the microwave follows by 120 degree C for 20 minutes in air fryer. So I have the med that is ready and can be either smoke or infused into edible0
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Grow Questions
Med_in_Tropic
Med_in_Tropicstarted grow question 5 years ago
How to activate THC in infused vodka. I have been adding trim and loose buds to a bottle of 80 prof (40%) vodka. The cannabis were in added in mixed conditions. Some buds were added fresh. Most bus and trims were watered cured and dried. And a batch was cooked.
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Philindicus
Philindicusanswered grow question 5 years ago
Your weed needs to go through a decarboxylation process to turn THCA into THC. Put it in the oven for 25 minutes at 250 Fahrenheit. Personally I would dry the weed in a traditional fashion (not water cured)let it cure for a few weeks to breakdown the chlorophyll a bit then do a decarboxylation process. Next you set up a double boiler one pan with water with another smaller pan inside that one which will hold the vodka and ground up decarb. weed. heat it to about 150-160 Fahrenheit for a couple of hours to infuse the vodka. You will lose some vodka do to evaporation. Do not let it heat up to 170 F or higher or the alcohol will boil off. When finished filter the vodka through cheese clothe and then a coffee filter. You know what to do with it after that.
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Med_in_Tropic
Med_in_Tropicweek 10
@MaryJaneUSA - good call. It was something to do with roots. She was trying to grow roots to the bottom of the container. When I moved the container, end of the road was damaged. And she pouted by cupping her top leaves.
MaryJaneUSA
MaryJaneUSA
Med_in_Tropic
Med_in_Tropicweek 1
Hahaha - 24 inch / 60 cm. Made from shoes shelf. Hear we take shoes off before entering a house. The size just Fit in the closet really well. So I can nurse the seedlings for two to three weeks before exposing them to slugs and bugs. So it’s at this rage it’s not from earth to the sun. Hahaha
Blacklisted
Blacklistedweek 14
just why would you dry your weed in oven ? grill ? :))) micro ? just why ?
Med_in_Tropic
Med_in_Tropic
@JKT48, 3 days works for me. 2 days - all smell is gone but water is still too green. 5 days - leaves start to deteriorate. And buds are really dark. Drying in card board takes two to thee days. However - I put my buds in small bakery aluminum box with lid. Then I air fried it at 120 C for half an hour when buds are still wet. Then, i dried it. This way bids are partially decarboxylate. I don’t smoke much. And decarboxylated buds smoked the same but I have flexibility to eat or drink it if I like. Air fry because I don’t have an oven. Baking is not really in our culture.
JKT48
JKT48
@Med_in_Tropic, Ah, I see. In my experience, the drying time after the water cure was also much faster. Whereas normal buds took 5-6 days where I live, water cured ones only took 2-3 days. Was it the same in your experience?
Med_in_Tropic
Med_in_Tropic
@JKT48, I am a fan. Most important to me is the privacy during curing. No advertising of ganja possession by hanging lines of strong smelling buds.
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MaryJaneUSA
MaryJaneUSAweek 13
why don't you grow indoors
MaryJaneUSA
MaryJaneUSA
@Med_in_Tropic, or my friend, growing sativa dominant autoflowers may be the easiest option, including what i've just wrote!
Med_in_Tropic
Med_in_Tropic
@MaryJaneUSA, findoor is my wife space. Really, my challenge is to find easy and practical way that most people can follow here. That is to grow outdoor on a porch or balcony. Actually, Sugar Mango Ryder is much too strong for me. I was not able to move for a good while. So I think my next seeds buying will be Indica CBD.
THCaddict
THCaddict
@MaryJaneUSA, Wine not?
Tree_Goblin
Tree_Goblinweek 4
The topping seemed to work well until you got the bud rot. Would you recommend topping this strain or no? Thanks
Med_in_Tropic
Med_in_Tropic
No @Tree_Goblin, don't top it. She does get tall with bigger pot. So bend her. This grow was one of my first grow. I have learned a few things since then. You have a tent set up, don't worry about mold. I grow outside with full exposure to disease carrying insects, sun, and rain. If I grow this strain again, I would not use manure. Use earth worm casting instead. I would transplant from 1 liter, 7 liters, to final 20 liters pot. Early on, I would bend her side way. LST her. Then the many side branches will stick up. And you should further LST them with wire to spread them about. I love the effect on Sugar Mango Ryder. Happy growing.
MaryJaneUSA
MaryJaneUSAweek 13
How far are you willing to go..? All your diaries had potential but they didn't finish good. If outdoor is a must then I'd invest in a very small greenhouse like 2x2x5 or 3x3x6 (in ft) something like that and invest in a cheap oscillating fan, plastic ventilator, and if you're willing to invest, get a cheap portable AC, especially in Thailand where it's extremely humid and hot. Basically, you just need something to move air and at the same time, not get blasted with UV by the sun. Your soil also need better better drainage.. You need like 30-40% perlite mixed with soil. That is why you're having root rot issues because it's not draining. Water needs to drain, by being drained, oxygen is introduced. Also I beg you to invest in some beneficial microbes (if all else is unrealistic); okay, if every thing i've told is unrealistic to you, then at least invest in some perlite, good pot (smart pot or air pot) and beneficial microbes. Also, I suggest you to grow some sativa dominant or pure sativa genetics. They do better in heat than indica strains, such as Kush (comes from colder climate). I'd hate to see a fellow grower struggle, especially in a place where you're not supposed to grow.. But imagine all the diaries you put your time into, you may had an oz of harvest total, if that (I'd hate to say it). But if you just had a decent harvest one time, it'll reward you with at least several oz, especially outdoor. You really just need to focus on good drainage, water/nutrient feeding times, and healthy roots which can be promoted by beneficial microbes. Oh yes, and you need to check your pH. VERY VERY IMPORTANT.
Med_in_Tropic
Med_in_Tropic
@MaryJaneUSA, Your spirit of brotherhood is much appreciated. Yes, I am struggling. Yield is tiny to experienced growers, but I am ecstatic with my first harvest. Lovely weeds that I am certain about cleanliness. I have started to grow to help a friend with terminal cancer. It was the wrong season to start but I really wanted to help. He passed away. My son has a bleeding this order and I help out with Thai hemophilia group every now and then. It just dawn on me that cannabis can help hemophilia community suffering from joint pain. Some of these families have very limited means. That put me on a path. Method had to be simple and low budge. Strains has to handle pain and swelling. Side issue is that hemophilia patient are all males and some have depression and self-destructive behaviors. Peace weed make sense. Harmonizing with nature and one self is the key. How far am I willing to go? As far as people around me understand. Governments had brain washed people for so long. City people have bad image of ganja. I am starting discreetly and slowly. Later, I need to show that I had done it and how I did it. Knowledge of ganja growing in Thai language is very limited. Comments and supports from my diaries are much more than I expected. I learned much quicker and am more committed. I also picking up weed philosophy and it makes me a better person. Thanks for the drainage comment. This may have killed one of my auto. I think the Thai one died because of bat guano and cow manure. I went crazy with pumice and peat. It did not drain well enough. I have to go back my root on legume leaves mix and coconut husk. This is laziness on my part. Coconut husk need to be mix fresh every time. My soil is full of digestive microbial. Five years ago, we had this long flood. And I use microbial to handle staggering water. The entire yard is ready to digest anything new. Organic fiber is eaten up fairly quickly. So I thought pumice was my answer. Well, back to basic then. My next grow I will change my mix and try the microbial mix. So many types are in plant shops. I need to ask my favorite shop which is good for the purpose. For strains, yes 8 months photoperiod sativa will surely works. Still trying for strains with different effect from (Thai) garden variety. I still have two strains of indica seeds to try. Even with half of it rotted, I still am happy with my initial haul. Another lesson is that weed are so strong these days. I should go for hemp hybrid (sorry, CBD rich). With “CBD rich” strains, it be easier to grow. And with 6 to 8 month cycle, Christmas will be a very happy time. Think I’ll buy 60/40 sativa/indica with CBD next.
MG2009
MG2009week 11
Sorry for your loss, bro but I would give that stuff an H2o2 bath it should wash any nasty stuff unseen by your eyes 👀, I've accidentally smoked mouldy buds, and I thought i had a heart attack, but it was mould i smoked that caused my symptoms. Be careful🙏
Med_in_Tropic
Med_in_Tropic
@MG2009, I hear you loud and clear. Thanks bro. The point of growing my own is not to smoke the nasties. Lost is gone.
Philindicus
Philindicusweek 11
Hard to tell but I think I would clip a small bud and dry it for a few days then test it out. The ones that are darker were they cloudy at one point? It looks like some are starting to go amber You will wind up with a mix of cloudy,clear and amber. Maybe we could get some other opinions from some outdoor growers.
Med_in_Tropic
Med_in_Tropic
@Philindicus, thanks. Just flushing, will keep monitoring her. I think after two weeks or so it’ll be more certain. And for sure it’ll be a mix of trichome color as she foxtailed. She is already would be much better than the brick weed Tha I could get here.
Philindicus
Philindicusweek 10
Looking forward to her chop day and smoke report.
Med_in_Tropic
Med_in_Tropic
@Philindicus, this a one is a real positive surprise. She is doing way better that what her data sheet says. May be “irrigation tolerance” in this case means she can tolerate overwatering?
Philindicus
Philindicusweek 8
She's filling in nicely. I too was wondering if growing auto flowering weed in shorter light periods might add a bit of growing time. Is the rainy season about to begin?
Med_in_Tropic
Med_in_Tropic
@Philindicus, I am sure of it. Shorter light period add a month or two to growing time to auto’s. So the total time from seed to harvest is nearly the same as photo’s. And yield is much less. The local wisdom is to say that there is no point for auto in sub-tropical region. However, I like sativa high and can’t afford to have 6 foot tree in my yard. Worse, most cannabis around here are two stories tall trees. So small plants yielding 20 g are fine. 20 grams is almost a yearly stock for me. Raining season starts by the end of May but weather can be weird these days. These are my final grow before I have to stop. We will be hitting hot and dry soon. Hot and dry is difficult. After which side way raining would be impractical for cannabis. My growin season really should start in fall.
MG2009
MG2009week 4
Good luck 👍following👊
Med_in_Tropic
Med_in_Tropic
@MG2009, thanks - really like this one. Only two months left before it get too hot.
growdoctordc
growdoctordcweek 9
“The local wisdom is to say that there is no point for auto in sub-tropical region.” So Mother Nature had it right all along. Huh! Imagine that. I can’t stop thinking about two storey tall Sativa plants! Wouldn’t that be awesome! I grew a ten foot Christmas tree once. I thought that was huge. I’ve seen pics of plants in Panama and Puerto Rico 15-20’ tall and bushy with flowers. PLEASE somebody save some 100% pure Sativa seeds from hybridization
growdoctordc
growdoctordcweek 1
Shouldn’t your “lamp to plant distance” read 93,000,000 miles? But seriously... that rig should work well
THCaddict
THCaddictweek 12
ใช้กล้องรุ่นไหนถ่ายไตรโคมครับ
Med_in_Tropic
Med_in_Tropic
@THCaddict, ดีกว่าแว่นส่องพระเยอะครับ
THCaddict
THCaddict
@Med_in_Tropic, ผมสั่ง Carson MM-300 มาแล้วครับ 680 บาท ร้านอยู่ในไทย ขยาย 60-120
Med_in_Tropic
Med_in_Tropic
@THCaddict, ซื้อ e-bay ครับ no brand ประม่าณ 20 เหรียญ เป็นกล้องจุลทรรศน์ 100x พอได้ ต่อ WiFi เข้ามือถืออีก สนุกเลยงานนี้ key word คือ phone microscope ไฟ LED ผมก็ Ebay, Ali ครับ Amazon ก็ได้. ภาษาท่านดีอยู่แล้วนิ
THCaddict
THCaddictweek 12
ทำไมกระหรี่ที่เก็บมาสีมันดำจังเลยครับ เป็นที่แสงตอนถ่ายหรือสายพันธุ์มันดำอยู่แล้ว?
Med_in_Tropic
Med_in_Tropic
@THCaddict, ผมรู้จากท่านมากมายหลายเรื่องเลยครับ
THCaddict
THCaddict
@Med_in_Tropic, water curing เพิ่งรู้ว่ามีวิธีนี้จากคุณนี่แหละครับ
Med_in_Tropic
Med_in_Tropic
@THCaddict, นี่ไงที่บอกว่าบ่มน้ำ แช่น้ำ เปลี่ยนทุกวัน 5-7 วัน คลอโรฟิล มันละลายในน้ำ THC ไม่ละลายในน้ำ พอบ่มน้ำ สีเขียวก็จะออกมาหมด กะกะหรี่กลายเป็นสีดำน่าเกลียดน่าชัง น้ำหนักแห้งก็จะลดลง เพราะพวกกิน เพราะพวกกินถึงแม้ว่ามันไม่ละลายในน้ำ มันก็ลอยออกมาแล้วก็หลายหายไปด้วย กะหรี่ก็เลยเป็นสีดำเพราะสีเขียวมันออกมา กลิ่นก็แทบจะไม่มีเลย แต่ดูดก็ต้องระวังนิดหนึ่งเพราะมันแรงขึ้น ที่ใช้วิธีนี้ส่วนหนึ่งก็เพราะว่ามันไม่ต้องตากให้ใครเห็นครับ
Philindicus
Philindicusweek 6
She's really taking off. Plant looks great what ever your doing keep it up.
Med_in_Tropic
Med_in_Tropic
@Philindicus, thanks bro. It’s all her. She is super easy to grow. And I think she is extending her roots to the soil. So there are two pH zones. Neutral pH in the pot. Probably because pumice keep buffering adjustment efforts. The soil is acidic. So different nutrients are absorbed differently in each zone.
DoDrugs420
DoDrugs420week 14
Holy, that's some serious Sugar Mango Ryder!
BoricuaGrower
BoricuaGrowerweek 9
Thanks for the like. Good luck on all your grows