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LM285B+ Light Emitting Diodes/200W
LM301H EVO + UV + IR Light Emitting Diodes/120W
YXOLED
LM301B Light Emitting Diodes/100W
Generic
El-Cheapo Blurple Light Emitting Diodes/20W
Generic
Mars Hydro 6in
Mars Hydro 6in
Thermostat Controller
Human
Earth
Indoor
Room Type
LST
weeks 5-8
Branch-Stop
weeks 6
Topping
weeks 6, 9
ScrOG
weeks 8-14
De-branching
weeks 9
Defoliation
weeks 9
Coco Coir
Grow medium
Perlite
Grow medium
Mycorrhiza
Grow medium
19 L
Pot Size
0
Germination
5 months ago
Nutrients 2
Simplex Cal-Mag 2 mll
CANNA pH+ - Canna
CANNA pH+ 0.5 mll
Soaked for 24H in raw tap water (130ppm, pH 8.3), then planted into an aerated paper cup with coco. The substrate was pH and Cal-Mag buffered to 5.9–6.0 for a few hours in advance. Added some Mycorrhiza, will add more after transplanting into a permanent pot. Upd: Wow, she's a tri-leaf whorled phyllotaxy beauty!
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tangie
tangiestarted grow question 5 months ago
Whorled phyllotaxy, apparently! Definitely a sign of good fortune :) Did some reading up and my impression is that there's nothing special to be done about this, including feeding regimen. Maybe I should build a hexagonal tent for her? 😁 Share your experience and urban legends
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Leaves. Too many
Other. General questions
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Organomananswered grow question 5 months ago
In my long experience, 40 years, any mutants and weirdos are always killed off by me now due to too many of them being duds, problems and/or failures in the past. There is nothing special about them and they generally turn out as disappointments............life is too short to grow "maybes"! Other people may say "ooh, you are lucky, give it a chance it may surprise you etc etc", but as I said, over forty years of growing and 99% of mutants and weirdo seedling turn in to a waste of time.......... Triploids with "whorled phyllotaxy" usually end up males, hermies or just don't flower properly in my experience..........a waste of time and effort. Only normal healthy seedlings make it beyond a week at my place these days.
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Week 1. Vegetation
5 months ago
10 cm
18 hrs
25 °C
5.9
No Smell
45 %
24 °C
24 °C
21 °C
0 L
0 L
Nutrients 4
Simplex CalMag 0.5 mll
pH Perfect Micro - Advanced Nutrients
pH Perfect Micro 0.8 mll
pH Perfect Grow - Advanced Nutrients
pH Perfect Grow 0.8 mll
For now, she's getting all the sunlight during the day on window sills, and during night I place her below the main plant in the tent, where there's some light, but not too bright.
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Week 3. Vegetation
2 months ago
15 cm
20 hrs
26 °C
5.9
No Smell
65 %
23 °C
24 °C
20 °C
19 L
0 L
35 cm
500 PPM
Nutrients 4
Simplex CalMag 1 mll
pH Perfect Micro - Advanced Nutrients
pH Perfect Micro 1.5 mll
pH Perfect Grow - Advanced Nutrients
pH Perfect Grow 1.5 mll
She's doing well. I've been feeding 1.5x of recommended nute dosage from early days basing on the fact that she has 1.5x plant mass and leaf surface area for her age / node count. She's been taking it well and sprouting really quickly. Transferred her to the box as soon as it was cleaned after the previous grow. For this grow I have revised and updated most of the grow setup systems.
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Week 4. Vegetation
2 months ago
25 cm
20 hrs
26 °C
5.9
No Smell
700 PPM
65 %
23 °C
24 °C
20 °C
19 L
1 L
35 cm
500 PPM
Nutrients 4
CalMag Plus 1.5 mll
pH Perfect Micro - Advanced Nutrients
pH Perfect Micro 2 mll
pH Perfect Grow - Advanced Nutrients
pH Perfect Grow 2 mll
Have some leaf problems. The dry tips are only present on one specific node level, and I think this has more to do with the funky genetics than with feeding and whatnot. Something on other leaves, too. I think I know what it is, but I will post a question later to inquire with a broader audience. Judging by results, I have corrected the problem successfully.
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Week 5. Vegetation
2 months ago
35 cm
20 hrs
26 °C
5.9
No Smell
1250 PPM
65 %
23 °C
24 °C
20 °C
19 L
1 L
35 cm
600 PPM
Nutrients 4
CalMag Plus 1.5 mll
pH Perfect Micro - Advanced Nutrients
pH Perfect Micro 4 mll
pH Perfect Grow - Advanced Nutrients
pH Perfect Grow 4 mll
Tri-symmetry continued all the way up on the central stem (trunk), which was 7 or 8 nodes at the time I topped it. None of the side branches had the tri-symmetry, as far as I can remember. They are just normal bi-plane two leaves per node, quickly evolving into staggered leaves after 2 or 3 two-leaf symmetric nodes. Geometry wise, she was a bit of a challenge to plan and route in a square tent.
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Week 6. Flowering
2 months ago
45 cm
20 hrs
28 °C
6
Weak
1400 PPM
65 %
22 °C
23 °C
18 °C
19 L
2 L
35 cm
700 PPM
Nutrients 4
CalMag Plus 1.5 mll
pH Perfect Micro - Advanced Nutrients
pH Perfect Micro 4 mll
pH Perfect Grow - Advanced Nutrients
pH Perfect Grow 4 mll
Instead of straight topping, I decided to try something else this time. If the goal to maximize photosynthesis capacity at any stage of a plant's life, then why would I chop off the leaves above the cut line? And why would I cut off extra branches at this stage? Now, for the branches, there could be a reason in that culling weaker or unwanted branches (according to a canopy shaping strategy, if you have one) would stimulate the plant to redirect all energy to expanding main planned cola branches. But if we assume that a sucker branch/unwanted branch is a net-positive energy producer — meaning that it has enough leaf surface to generate more energy that it consumes on whatever processes are going within it — why would I want to rob the plant of this extra energy this early in the lifecycle, where the canopy is nowhere near big enough to properly capture all cast light? The benefits are exponential, so the later I cull extra branches (read, leaves), the more energy (and, as a result, plant mass) the plant had a chance to generate until then. So maybe a good strategy is just clipping unwanted budlings and keeping the rest, including a (bent and guided) central stem. This time I decided to perform what I called "Branch-Stop" on the plant. It probably has a proper name in agriculture, but I had not gotten to researching it. What I did was basically clip any child branches at their origin node if I didn't want the plant to continue growing in that direction/area. At the same time I kept the leaves at the same node junctions, where it was physically possible to separate them. To give you an easy to understand example, if my plant was on [central stem] node 7 and I would normally top above node 4, this time I would clip all child branches above node 4, but I will keep the leaves, recursively. Effectively, I would top a lot of young-generation nodes. A logical continuation of this idea is to not top any branches at all, just make sure that no unwanted bud sites are allowed to develop, to limit the number of colas and reduce larf/popcorn. Obviously, this method is risky, at the very least because many cuts means much larger total cut surface, much greater risk of contamination of any kind (including inviting unwanted insects), and probably more stress to the plant. On the other hand, leaf surface loss is negligible, and the plant should have enough energy to recover quickly. This can also be done as a steady repeated procedure, removing only a few tiny young branches at once. I made sure that my instruments were sterile, I used clean gloves and I made sure my environment was also clean. Would not recommend it for outdoor at all (too risky), but indoor it worked better than I expected, in the sense that the plant did not show any signs of stress, and continued growing a massive trunk.
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Week 7. Flowering
2 months ago
45 cm
20 hrs
28 °C
6.1
Weak
1500 PPM
65 %
20 °C
22 °C
17 °C
19 L
2 L
35 cm
900 PPM
Nutrients 7
CalMag Plus 1.5 mll
pH Perfect Micro - Advanced Nutrients
pH Perfect Micro 4 mll
pH Perfect Grow - Advanced Nutrients
pH Perfect Grow 4 mll
One week later, you can see the results of "Branch-Stop" canopy shaping technique that I explained previous week. The plant recovered very well.
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Week 8. Flowering
2 months ago
55 cm
20 hrs
28 °C
6.2
Weak
1550 PPM
60 %
19 °C
22 °C
16 °C
19 L
4 L
35 cm
1200 PPM
Nutrients 7
CalMag Plus 1.5 mll
pH Perfect Micro - Advanced Nutrients
pH Perfect Micro 4 mll
pH Perfect Grow - Advanced Nutrients
pH Perfect Grow 4 mll
Steady progress. Installed the ScrOG screen this week, lazily guiding branches through in the general direction. Not trimming down sucker branches yet as I explained earlier the week I did Branch-Stop (BS) shaping. This only makes sense if you add side and/or bottom lighting so that all those leaves can get meaningful amounts of photons and be net positive producers of energy for the plant. If it's dark below, I don't think extra leaves are of much use. I'm not a real botanist though, so dyor.
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Week 9. Flowering
2 months ago
60 cm
20 hrs
28 °C
6.2
Weak
1550 PPM
58 %
19 °C
22 °C
16 °C
19 L
4 L
35 cm
1200 PPM
Nutrients 7
CalMag Plus 1.5 mll
pH Perfect Micro - Advanced Nutrients
pH Perfect Micro 4 mll
pH Perfect Grow - Advanced Nutrients
pH Perfect Grow 4 mll
Finally pruned her this week. Probably overdone it, cause she lost... visually — half of her leaves and plant mass? A lot. Basically, I cut almost every branch that was not in the 15-18 leading cola branches rated by their trunk width (not sure if a reasonable metric lol, just experimenting). I left a few branch-stopped (BS) branches simply to add more leaf surface area for the recovery period. I think I realized that I overdone it towards the end, when I put all of the lights on, and then I saw how many gaping holes there were in the canopy 😆 Looking back, I should have kept a few more branches for recovery, until remaining cola branches expand their canopies to cover the screen densely. This would have made it much less of a stumble for the plant. Meanwhile, I'm happy that I didn't stunt the plant earlier, and tried to give a lot of light for her leaves in the early stages. Stronger plant meant higher recovery chances, and higher potential yield bracket. No idea what's up with purple leaves — just genetics and/or cold, or stress, although I have my guesses based on a few visual guides.
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De-branching
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tangie
tangiestarted grow question 2 months ago
What the heck is this? Is it just purple genes or a stress/deficiency or a combination of multiple factors? I have checked three visual cannabis plant health guides, and did not find a single issue which looks like this. Maybe a combination of 2 factors, but I'm not convinced 😐
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Leaves. Color - Dark-purple
Leaves. Color - Dark-brown
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Ultravioletanswered grow question 2 months ago
Anthocyanin. Looks very similar to what I'd expect to see from excess uv exposure. Possible you had a extra cold night recently? Sometimes if plant spends a night sub 60, the morning after I see a couple leaves like this.
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Week 10. Flowering
2 months ago
65 cm
20 hrs
28 °C
6.2
Normal
1550 PPM
58 %
19 °C
22 °C
16 °C
19 L
5 L
35 cm
1000 PPM
Nutrients 7
CalMag Plus 1.5 mll
pH Perfect Micro - Advanced Nutrients
pH Perfect Micro 4 mll
pH Perfect Grow - Advanced Nutrients
pH Perfect Grow 4 mll
After a brief pause and a generation of stressed fans (although I'm not sure this was their only stress, maybe it was the second event for them already) the plant looks to have continued strong, and the buds are now growing visible by the day. The smell is still very moderate compared to the Tangie I grew right before this one — that one was pretty stinky, although I think still far from skunkmaster genes, whatever they are. The buds are dense and solid. Trying to split them apart without damaging to improve airflow through the canopy. How many colas per ft2 is too many if they are fat like this? Can such fast mass gain compromise quality, if not contaminated and harvested when truly ripe?
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Week 11. Flowering
2 months ago
67 cm
20 hrs
28 °C
6.2
Normal
1550 PPM
58 %
19 °C
22 °C
16 °C
19 L
5 L
35 cm
650 PPM
Nutrients 7
CalMag Plus 1.5 mll
pH Perfect Micro - Advanced Nutrients
pH Perfect Micro 4 mll
pH Perfect Grow - Advanced Nutrients
pH Perfect Grow 4 mll
All is reasonably well as far as I'm concerned. Colas are fat and dense and at least decently sticky. Will update later.
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Week 12. Flowering
2 months ago
67 cm
20 hrs
28 °C
6.2
Normal
1550 PPM
58 %
19 °C
22 °C
16 °C
19 L
5 L
35 cm
600 PPM
Nutrients 7
CalMag Plus 1.5 mll
pH Perfect Micro - Advanced Nutrients
pH Perfect Micro 4 mll
pH Perfect Grow - Advanced Nutrients
pH Perfect Grow 4 mll
She's doing well as far as I'm concerned. Very late flowering, bud growth has almost stopped save for a couple smaller buds about the size of a plum each. Pistils are turning from pure white to bright orange with cognac tones. I like bright orange hair in my bud, so I'm happy with this. No less happy I am that I have apparently grown a significantly purple-ish plant, which would be my first time ever having access to purple-ish quality bud. I'm very excited to see how she turns out after curing!
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Week 13. Flowering
2 months ago
70 cm
20 hrs
28 °C
6
Normal
150 PPM
58 %
19 °C
22 °C
18 °C
19 L
4 L
35 cm
600 PPM
Nutrients 6
pH Perfect Micro - Advanced Nutrients
pH Perfect Micro 2 mll
pH Perfect Grow - Advanced Nutrients
pH Perfect Grow 3 mll
pH Perfect Bloom - Advanced Nutrients
pH Perfect Bloom 3 mll
I have started flushing with pH-adjusted Flawless Finish solution, expecting to harvest somewhere around the end of this week, although I will continue monitoring pistils and trichs. Upd: Added back 50% base nutrients and some flowering additives after researching some of the first responses to my flushing question. I learn every day. Even that which was scientifically proven true one day, might be even more scientifically proven absolutely false some time later (not related to flushing specifically). Thank you kings! Upd 2: Okay okay I cooked her with some cosmic rays or whatever those Chinese quantum bars emit — purple rays, I'll call it — that's on me. Turned them 30% down to see what's up. Light burn was not on my mind, because otherwise the leaves were not really curving that much, considering that this is 3 weeks overdue wrt advertised. Sorry about that, did not pay enough attention.
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tangie
tangiestarted grow question 2 months ago
Need advice on timing a 7d flush. My 2nd grow, both (Sativas) flowered signif. longer than advertised (+2-4 weeks). To know when to start flushing, do you visually estimate when a plant is no more t 1wk from harvest? If I start flush when it's ripe for harv, too late or ok?
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Other. Harvest - Drying
Other. General questions
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Newt_Loopanswered grow question 2 months ago
I don't flush, I feed till the end. Flushing is bro science. Only need for it is if you overfed or trying to correct a nutrient issue. There's actually a study they did on flushing, article below. In summary, the plants with zero days of flushing had the best flavor and the smoothest smoke. https://www.rxgreentechnologies.com/rxgt_trials/flushing-trial/
tangie
tangiestarted grow question 2 months ago
Answers based on personal experience if possible! Links to peer-reviewed science ALWAYS welcome 💪 AUTO only 🙌 TTH = Time visible veg To Harvest 1) Average TTH for 80%+ Sativas? 2) For Indicas? 3) Your opinion: Seed sellers incentivized by market to understate advertised TTH?
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Buds. Other
Plant. Other
Setup. Strain - Autoflowering
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Organomananswered grow question 2 months ago
In my experience.......... 1) - Sativas, 10-16 weeks 2) - Indicas, 6-10 weeks 3) - of course they lie!
tangie
tangiestarted grow question 2 months ago
Fine-tuning my timing, my 2nd harvest. Looking for mostly Sativa effects but slight chill is ok to balance the acid-like high — 10-15% amber tx? 90% of pistils are orange/brown now. Feeding with 60-70% flowering mix, but only 50% N. Lens is Apexel 200X + iPhone, no affiliation
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Buds. Other
Other. General questions
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Newt_Loopanswered grow question 2 months ago
My trichome maturity is based on whether it's a indica, sativa or hybrid. When the bulbous heads of the trichomes are fully developed but still translucent, plants will produce a "high" and stimulanting effect, less sedative. It is the perfect moment to harvest strong Indica strains. When these bulbous heads turn milky is probably the best moment to harvest most available hybrids. When 70% of these trichome heads are milky and 30% amber, it is the perfect time to harvest mostly Sativa hybrids and long flowering strains (like Haze).
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Week 14. Flowering
2 months ago
70 cm
20 hrs
28 °C
6
Normal
150 PPM
58 %
19 °C
22 °C
18 °C
19 L
4 L
35 cm
600 PPM
Nutrients 5
pH Perfect Micro - Advanced Nutrients
pH Perfect Micro 2 mll
pH Perfect Grow - Advanced Nutrients
pH Perfect Grow 2 mll
pH Perfect Bloom - Advanced Nutrients
pH Perfect Bloom 2 mll
Few final day before harvest. Watered with tap water to help flush and metabolize any remaining nutrients. The pot looks like it needs more flushing still. Last two days before harvest will be no-watering days.
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Week 15. Harvest
2 months ago
Happy Harvest Day!
Humboldt Sour Diesel Autoflower - Humboldt Seed Company
Spent 98 days
Ger Veg Flo Har
9/10
Rated
503 g
Bud dry weight per plant
1
Plants
0.36
Grow Room size
Easy
Difficulty
Sleepy
Energy
Indica
Hybrid
Sativa

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Day air temperature
Air humidity
PPM
PH
CO2
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Solution temperature
Night air temperature
Substrate temperature
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Chopped her two days into week 14. What else. Buds. There are a lot of them. And they are quite large. And they look like they will require little effort to trim. What more can I wish for? I am a very happy man. Upd 1: Trimming is SO SIMPLE! Not much sticking out to begin with, because of the amazing bud structure and me plucking most bud node fans. Solid nugs which are not bothered by anything, so pulling smaller sub-bud fans is very simple too, while the buds are what I would call moist. I'll call this Moist Trim 😄 ✂️✂️✂️ Went for the best trimming tools available on the market (well at least my research concluded so) and LOVING every minute of trimming with the B-500SRF. Why would I or anyone else use something less suitable or less comfortable for such a delicate and long job is beyond me, except if you cannot afford one right now, in which case I wish you to experience it one day. Fiskars are also very good in therms of the blades, coating and cutting ability and precision, but the spring is just too stiff, like way, way to stiff for something that is to be used for hours on end. One might argue that such spring force helps overcome resin buildup, but please just rinse your instrument regularly in an appropriate solvent (ethy, iso, whatever — consider you instrument materials as well) and wipe it after. Why would you let significant amounts of resin to accumulate on such a gentle and precise tool? Kinda defeats the purpose?
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tangie
tangiestarted grow question 2 months ago
Asking for a friend Merry Christmas everyone, whatever your faith or belief or philosophy or way of being 🙏🏽🌲
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Other. General questions
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Sators
Satorsanswered grow question 2 months ago
Hi bro, Thank you for your wish. Merry Christmas you too, buddy!
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