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5 years ago
Another good week. I was away for the weekend so this update is a couple of days late and a few photos short. Overall looking very good, the buds are bulking up nicely.
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Grow Questions
smurgrow
smurgrowstarted grow question 5 years ago
For an outdoor auto grow does it make sense to move the plants during the day to maximise direct sunlight (8h vs 12h) or is it better to leave them undisturbed. better to keep plants under a basic light setup eg 85w 4750 lumen cfl up to 100cm from light during veg stage?
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OutForReal
OutForRealanswered grow question 5 years ago
Yes it makes sense , I have this problem myself and I can't move them ( stealth grow ) so I loose direct sunlight and a bit of energy. During veg if you can put them out during day time and inside during night time ( under the FL) it would be perfect to maximise the autos grow ✌️🏼
smurgrow
smurgrowstarted grow question 5 years ago
When a breeder quotes an estimated range for yield what assumptions do the make: 1. Is the quoted yield based on wet or dry weight 2. Is the range based on standard growth or do the high end numbers typically assume advanced training techniques, supplemental lighting etc.
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Mrs_Larimar
Mrs_Larimaranswered grow question 5 years ago
I never read the Yield esteminations... Because, i dont really understand them^^ i look at seedfinder.eu and read what ppls wrote there, sometimes its teh same text like breeder, but most time there are personalized comments / texts. For me yield is no point for the decision to buy them. I look here at gd how the most of it come out, how difficult they are. how resiliant they are is for me one of the biggest points. I would always recommend you to buy from respected breeders. Maybe they dont have such fancy names or packages, but the Plants have good and stable genetics. This is how i do it, i see a strain, look on seedfinder.eu and here on gd how they are to grow........ and in i have doubts i dont grow it. As you can see in my grows i have prefered Breeder. And i would always go with them , because the Customer service is a very important point to me too. If you have problems, someone who helps you or send you new seeds. We can talk per PM for giving you some Names of good Breeder. i dont want to do it here
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smurgrow
smurgrowweek 1
Thanks dude! I appreciate the feedback and advice. I'll keep an eye on the soil temp it might become an issue for me. Right now I'm worried about a bit of stretching. We've got plenty daylight hours at the moment but tricky to find a spot in my garden to take full advantage of that (either get morning or afternoon sun). Plan to rotate the plants under a CFL 4750 lumen light at night during veg state to compensate, but worried about moving them around too much. I don't have enough space for all the plants so each plant will get their turn every second dayI'm using Ph balanced bottled water (Bon Aqua)
smurgrow
smurgrowweek 1
Thanks @OutForReal! I'm seeing small but visible gains (compared to same seed) with no lights) after just a few days when moving them under lights at night and will continue to do so.
Humboldt_Seed_Organisation
Humboldt_Seed_Organisation
@smurgrow, That's what we like to hear πŸ‘Š Our Auto UK Cheese is well into bloom now and starting to pack on that weight πŸ‘ Looking good from here my friend πŸ‘Š With love from Humboldt County✌️ Kind regards Mark..
smurgrow
smurgrow
@Humboldt_Seed_Organisation, thank you Team-HSO. I must say your UK cheese is exceeding my expectations. These are getting quite big and outgrowing their neighbours so far.
Humboldt_Seed_Organisation
Humboldt_Seed_Organisation
@smurgrow, Well the ladies have started to bloom so in around 2 months you will have some Auto UK Cheese to try and we know you'll love it πŸ‘ Looking great from this end my friend πŸ‘Š Please keep the updates coming mateπŸ‘ With love from Humboldt County✌️ Kind regards Team-HSO..
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biird
biirdweek 1
Now we're talking! Looking good dude. And thanks so much for the kind words on my grow. Something definitely went wrong with your other grow but this one looks like it's off to a flying start! Autoflowers lives are so short so it is like a race against time. My main pointers are, firstly; make sure they get as much direct sunlight as possible but make sure the pots don't get hot. 8+ hours of direct sunlight per day is ideal. Mine were fine on the grass/lawn but if your pots are getting hot from the ground up try a white surface. I found Garden Master garden refuse bags at Builders Warehouse for R10. https://www.builders.co.za/Garden-%26-Outdoor-Living/Garden/Garden-Sheds-%26-Bins/Garden-Master-Refuse-Bags/p/000000000000250181 Secondly, only water them when the soil is dry up to your second knuckle (about 5cm) or when you can feel the pot is light. At some stages I was only watering once every two weeks. Most of the time about once a week. When it rained, not at all. I watered the entire fabric pot every time by watering slowly and trying not to get any run-off. Your soil is alive so you don't want to wash any of it away. On that note, if you're using tap water, leave it in the shade outdoors in open 5l bottles so the chlorine evaporates. Chlorine will kill your living organisms in your soil. The difference in the smell of chorine where we live before and after 3 days is quite crazy. Try it out and see if it works for you, too. Lastly, autos are light feeders. Especially with the soil you have. You barely need to use nutrients at all but if you want to; organic nutrients like the Bio-Grow you have for veg stage at 1/4 the recommended dose and Bio-Bloom for the flowering stage at 1/4 the recommended dose is much safer than going too heavy. If you just do those things you WILL get something sick out of it. Hope this helps and can't wait to see how the rest of your grow goes! Crush it man!
smurgrow
smurgrowweek 1
Hi Mark, just want to mention how impressed i am with the dinafem seeds. I've had 100% germination rate out of 20 dinafem autoflowering seeds planted now and any issues have been newbie mistakes on my part. hope to convince my friends with grow tents to buy premium dinafem seeds and try autos in the coming months. thank you!
Humboldt_Seed_Organisation
Humboldt_Seed_Organisation
@smurgrow, 4/4 is fantastic πŸ‘Š Sorry to read your puppy ate a few plants 🐢 best to keep our of the Grow room ✌️ These things happen mate ✌️ Kind regards Team-HSO..
smurgrow
smurgrow
Thank you sir! The uk cheese doing very nicely. 4/4 so far. Will provide better feedback once these babies get out of veg stage!
Humboldt_Seed_Organisation
Humboldt_Seed_Organisation
@smurgrow, That's fantastic news and what we expect from Dinafem genetics πŸ‘ How is our Auto UK Cheese doing? I hope well and we wish you the best for this grow πŸ‘ With love from Humboldt County ✌️ Kind regards Team-HSO..
smurgrow
smurgrowweek 6
Awesome thank you Mark!
DinafemSeeds
DinafemSeeds
@smurgrow, my pleasure my friend πŸ‘We love this week's pictures buddy some really nice flowers which are getting closer to harvest each update πŸ‘Š Keep the updates coming as harvest is approaching fast ✌️ Love the extract chat by the way πŸ‘ All the best ✌️ Mark..
smurgrow
smurgrowweek 7
Hehe thanks Quexos, can't wait to light these up!
smurgrow
smurgrowweek 5
@starphish, thank you for the answer to my question. It helps to know that it is dry weight and that the breeders tend to inflate estimates. Hehe, moving plants is hard work and I've started getting a little bit lazy. No question that it is worth it though. Now that most of ny plants are in full bloom I expect diminishing returns, but will continue.
Quexos
Quexosweek 4
Your 2nd round is looking really good! The plants under the lights look excellent! I wouldn't worry about your plants flowering early. They are autos and usually start showing pre-flowering between weeks 3-5. They are supposed to get down to business quickly.
Quexos
Quexos
@smurgrow, Yow! Our medical marijuana grow laws are kinda set in stone. 9 plants total. 5 in flower.
smurgrow
smurgrow
@DinafemSeeds, thank you Mark! it's good to know that early flower is not a concern. The plants look so healthy and vibrant which is very encouraging.
smurgrow
smurgrow
@Quexos, Thank you! I'm very excited about this round and the next. Have to restrain myself from planting another batch because that would be pushing it with the law (whilst growing your own is now legal here it's up to police discretion whether the quantity puts you in dealing category).
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Quexos
Quexosweek 3
You are absolutely right! There is a huge difference between this grow and your first grow. A little experience doesn't hurt though.πŸ‘ I read a lot of the comments about this grow. There is some really, really good advice in there. You are lucky. This is a great community. I've been in a few groups that aren't quite so supportive.
Humboldt_Seed_Organisation
Humboldt_Seed_Organisation
@smurgrow, This is an amazing platform mate, we try to be as active as possible as we feel it very important to connect with all growers growing our creations πŸ‘Š The Grow Diaries platform has members who are just starting through to professional growers and breeders. We all work together and help each other πŸ‘Œ This is quite rare and one reason we love the Grow Diaries platform πŸ‘Š With love from Humboldt County✌️ Kind regards Team-HSO..
smurgrow
smurgrow
@Quexos, Yes, I'm absolutely blown away by this community. Not only do representatives from the seedbanks chime in, but also pros and amateurs with quality of the feedback that is incredible. Each perspective helps! This is sooo valuable to a newbie like me. Btw, i think it's good to see failures too, because those are great learning opportunity.
Mrs_Larimar
Mrs_Larimarweek 9
great closeup !!! see the trichomes turning
Mrs_Larimar
Mrs_Larimarweek 8
And they fatten up nicely.......
Quexos
Quexosweek 8
That Expo sounded like a great time! Did any of the booths offer any growing tips? Your UK Cheese look great! Now I want to grow some Cheese strains! How does it smell? Those Criticals are looking fat! You might want to stake those buds so they have some support. I could see the stalk bending due to the weight!
Quexos
Quexos
@smurgrow, Check out UTube videos of people using hair straighteners to extract resin from their buds. It's pretty low-tech, but it gets the job done.
smurgrow
smurgrow
@Quexos, Yeah they are going in range of $200 / $500 or $1000 here depending on how extreme you want to go. We can order from Amazon etc. but long distance shipping of heavy items is expensive.
Quexos
Quexos
@smurgrow, I've seen rosin plate extraction devices for about 200 bucks around here. There is a cheap tool type store chain called Harbor Freight. They have tons of good deals. I don't know if you have any comparable chains there. Amazon also offers them.
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Quexos
Quexosweek 6
Good week! I'm not sure about who is who in your pictures. I'm assuming the taller one is the cheese? Anyway the last 3-4 pictures show a plant that is a lot closer to being ready than the first pictures. I think you should do a little reading concerning your idea about needing more nitrogen. Think about the purpose of nitrogen and what your plant is doing right now. Increasing your bloom nutes will give you flowering benefits, but its purpose is not to add a lot of Nitrogen. Your plants look super healthy. I didn't notice any signs of nute burn. You could probably increase your bloom nutes to get more yield. Are you feeding at full strength?
Quexos
Quexos
@smurgrow, Aren't we all!
smurgrow
smurgrow
@Quexos, awesome thank you! this helps a lot. I'll admit to being a bit obsessed with my girls 😎
Quexos
Quexos
@smurgrow, You certainly do your homework! I wouldn't worry about the yellowing leaves. Your plants will start to fade as their lifespan reaches the end. That fading includes lower leaves yellowing and dropping. It's normal. Rignt now your plant's entire focus is on the flowers. Increasing your bloom nutes will give your plant an extra boost to help flowering. Your range of dosing for bloom nutes is 2-5ml and you are feeding 1.5ml?
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Quexos
Quexosweek 9
Talk about a kid in a candy shop! All micro pictures.πŸ˜†πŸ˜† Cheese 2-3 look pretty done, but Cheese 1 looks like it needs more time. Crits look to be in the same boat as the Cheese 1. Did you notice how long it took those trichomes to go from milky to amber? That will help with harvesting Cheese 1. So your first and second grow are almost done?
smurgrow
smurgrow
@Quexos, awesome thank you. i'll monitor daily
Quexos
Quexos
@smurgrow, I don't know how quickly they turn amber. I doubt 2 or 3 days will hurt.
smurgrow
smurgrow
@Quexos, exactly πŸ˜€ Unfortunately I did not, but will monitor from here. Yeah the last stretch for these and half way through grow number 3, where training is making a pretty big difference. Pushing my luck for a couple of days on cheese 2 and 3.
DinafemSeeds
DinafemSeedsweek 6
Oh yes they are well into bloom now and looking in great shape πŸ‘Œ Just going of the pictures I would say these still have a minimum of 4 weeks possibly 6 more week's until finished. They are only just really starting to form there structure now, plenty of time left to pile on the weight πŸ‘ Definitely more than 2 weeks left my friend πŸ‘Š I'll keep dropping in as you update mate πŸ‘ All the best ✌️ Mark..
starphish
starphish
@smurgrow, I'm in the same boat my friend with a 56+day Dinafem Blue Cheese Auto that is making it known she might be better off closer to 80+ days rather than the estimated 65-70. I am always curious with new plants whether they are taking longer due to stress or just doing their own little thing. Excited to see how your lady develops in the next weeks :) Have a great day
smurgrow
smurgrow
@DinafemSeeds, awesome thank you Mark this helps a lot and I will plan accordingly
Mrs_Larimar
Mrs_Larimarweek 10
happy harvesting
Quexos
Quexosweek 7
Everyone is looking great! You are going to have a ton of bud when your current grows are done!
Mrs_Larimar
Mrs_Larimarweek 5
Well as I can see you bought from Good Breeder, good genetics are the Basement of a good grow. and i always go from quality, over resiliance and stable genetics, last point for me is the Yield
Mrs_Larimar
Mrs_Larimar
@smurgrow,i did it the same way, first looking how everything works and then trying some technics, and in every grow a new invention..... always learning
smurgrow
smurgrow
@Mrs_Larimar, thanks again this makes perfect sense! I was uncomfortable tackling techniques like LST before I got the basics right (esp after some early mistakes), but planning to in my next grow. These estimates are very helpful!
Mrs_Larimar
Mrs_Larimar
@smurgrow,ok i got it. it really depends in your trainig and other conditions like light how much your girls will give you. As your Girls got no topping or lst or anything like that you will get around 30-50 grams dry from each plant. if you give her LST you can get more. But everything above 25 grams is a good outcome ( in my opinion). I had automatics, that gave me each plant 80 grams. and some growers go with 100 and 120 grams. But iam most time ok with around 50-60 grams dried
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Quexos
Quexosweek 5
Good looking plants this week! Everyone looks happy and healthy. Keep doing what you are doing. The plants have responded well. You'll have a decent harvest for these plants. They will pack it on as they mature.
smurgrow
smurgrow
@Quexos, Thank you sir!
Quexos
Quexosweek 10
Gratz! You are getting pretty good with that little microscope camera! I am still getting the hang of mine. Harvest is going to be great! Enjoy.