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Trainwreck
Custom Breeder & Strain
LED/408W
Light
LED/408W
Light
Indoor
Room Type
LST
weeks Technique
HST
weeks Technique
Topping
weeks Technique
Main-Lining
weeks Technique
Defoliation
weeks Technique
Soil
Grow medium
Strain
00seeds2 - 00 KUSH
Trainwreck
Custom Breeder & Strain
Growing it
Hard
Resistance
Weak
It's hard to say I disliked growing this strain knowing that most of the reason I don't like it is because I kinda grew it wrong. Trainwreck is an amazing strain with beautiful qualities but she's just too sensitive of a plant for me to want to grow again. If you give her too much water she starts wilting; too many nutrients and she'll burn quickly. Temperature goes above 75 degrees Fahrenheit and she's gonna foxtail on you. She''s an amazing strain but I just don''t think I'll be growing her again due to her complicated nature. There are many much easier and higher yielding strains to grow. That must be why everyone breeds Trainwreck with something a bit more hearty to retain some of the qualities while increasing the yield and THC content.
The Outcome
Week 21
Harvest
What's on the scales?
74.54
gram
ounce
Bud dry weight
What's on the scales?
233.76
gram
ounce
Bud wet weight
Harvested
2
Number of plants harvested
0.18
g / watt
37.27
g / plant
Tastes like
Citrus
Earthy
Pine
Feels like
100% Sativa 0% Indica

Positive effects

Euphoric
Happy
Uplifted

Negative effects

Dry eyes
Nutrients
I've always loved fox farm nutrients. Everyone always highly recommends them wherever you go. You'll always find that most growers will compare how another products works by referencing something in the Fox Farm line up. I'll be using these again and again until Fox Farm makes something better. Kudos to your great products :D
A staple in almost every setup from everyone I've ever known. Everyone always recommends your specific brand of Cal-Mag for all your nutrient troubles. I noticed a huge difference the second I added it to my plants. This nutrient helps correct a whole host of nutrient deficiencies when used properly. Great product.
I can't say I noticed too much of a difference using this product. Once I removed it from my regiment in the middle of my flower I didn't see any changes but never the less it's important to have balanced microbial content in your soil and I'm certain that this product did that. 4/5
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DabCrab DabCrab
7 years ago
DISCLAIMER: 2 plants were harvested in this diary under 136 actual watts of lighting from one 136 actual watt ViparSpectra LED's. Because grow diaries algorithms are incorrect for some reason the website lists the grams per watt incorrectly because it divides the number of grams/watt by the number of plants. In this case it causes my grams per watts to be 2 times lower than what it actually was so I have listed the wattage as 2 times less then it actually was. I apologize if this causes anyone any confusion but It's the only way to have my overall account information to be correct in my profile. As I had said before in the harvest for the Quantum Kush, the conditions that were ideal for the Quantum Kush to thrive in just weren't right for the Trainwreck. In retrospect I should not have grown the two strains in the same tent right next to each other. I did so only because it was convenient for me to do so, so I did. So heres the total harvest information. The Quantum Kush total harvest weight was 193.93 grams. The Trainwreck total harvest weight was 74.54 grams. That puts the total harvest weight for this grow room of .46 meters squared at 268.47 grams. So if we take that 268.47 grams and divide it by our total wattage for the lights which is 408 watts it means I achieved .658 grams per watts for this small grow room. .65 grams per watt for this entire little space isn't bad in my opinion consider the conditions for two of the plants were less than ideal. This tent was simply a practice of my canopy training which I don't feel that I exceeded at really. Next time I train a canopy in this fashion I believe it'll turn out much better. I think overall it was a nice practice run for exactly what I'll be doing in the future. I hope you all enjoyed. Cheers!00
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JUNGLE_B4RNS
JUNGLE_B4RNSweek 14
Ok , nice grow. Save T5 consumption on the popcorn in the bottom by trimming your plants legs when they will get taller, cuz they will get taller , when I look these plants , they've just finished there transition and flowers are just opening , they will stretch until the buds swell stage , probably 1 maybe 2 more weeks depending on your feeds and water schedules. Just trim the legs to avoid spending energy in the bottom , if you try spending energy on the bottom the plants will finish with more buds for sure, but smaller buds . There's nothing new under the sun , everything has been tested , light come from the sky , this is why the top of the leaves is used to convert the light by hitting the cells full of water and the under surface of the leaves is used to exchange the gas CO2/O2.I will follow your crop with a lot of interest, if you could just add a lil CFL for pictures with true colors it will be awesome 👍
DabCrab
DabCrab
@TheFairyBudMother, I believe they are underrated and for no reason. I have buddies who've done comparison grows side by side. Same Strain, Same nutrients, Same Lighting and one of the grows they lollipoped the bottom of the plant and in the other grow they let the plant just grow. They achieved 20% more flower in the end from not lollipopping their plants. Lolipopping the lower branches of your plant is only effective and needed if you don't have light penetration to those areas. I'll post pictures tonight when my lights come on to show how the light is having no trouble reflecting off the mylar and directly reaching the lower areas of the canopy. If light is hitting a solar panel there is no reason to disconnect the solar panel. (Though thats a bad analogy because solar panels are only as effective as the worst functioning unit in the sequence, but i digress) If they get hit with light they'll yield good buds. Now if we are talking about tertiary and quaternary branches beneath the canopy that are only receiving reflective light and not direct light it might be prudent.
TheFairyBudMother
TheFairyBudMother
@DabCrab, popcorn nugs are highly underrated.
JUNGLE_B4RNS
JUNGLE_B4RNS
@DabCrab,ok I understand.
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TheFairyBudMother
TheFairyBudMotherweek 13
Looks amazing! You're using the same lights I have as well for a comparably sized space. I have my lights oriented perpendicular to yours but my space isn't packed like this (next time, maybe!) nor am I optimizing the use of it. I haven't invested in a carbon filter as I'm legal in Cali and trying not to spend too much $. I also don't want to cause a nuisance or attract any problems and it now smells like Labatts brewery in my bedroom (mmm!!!) and you can catch a whiff of it outside. Any recommendations on the filter? I only close the room off at night to keep light out. In the future I hope to see your training process.Also how high do you keep your lights from the top of your canopy?
DabCrab
DabCrab
@TheFairyBudMother, Samesies :D I may need to change my ducting around later in flower so that everything is only going through one tent because I am noticing a little residual smell when my automatic glade sprayer runs out of juice. Other than that it does wonders. The smell isn't of utter dankness though, just smells like plants. It could be corn, strawberries, or the most fire nug in a baby tent you've ever seen. Good luck getting your ducting setup! Zip ties will be your new best friend. Cheers!
TheFairyBudMother
TheFairyBudMother
@DabCrab, I just ordered filter/fan/ducting. The odor is kind of like when you get near a dispensary. It's my favorite smell but I'd rather not advertise my new hobby.
DabCrab
DabCrab
@TheFairyBudMother, I'd say go for it buddy, it works wonders in our house. You'll notice the smell vanish!
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CaliGrown
CaliGrownweek 14
Dropping some serious knowledge on this grow comments thread. Thank you all for this one . 👌👍🏼
DabCrab
DabCrab
@AlaskanGrownCaliRaised, Don't get me wrong, you should totally trim your girl up a bit. I just have a very different idea of how thats done than what I see a lot of people do. Around day 20, if you have anything that isn't showing pistols or any kind of resin glands on it you should trim those off. Thats honestly where I take most of my baby clones from if I have forgotten to take some prior to flowering. This time there won't be any need for that as I will be discontinuing my use of The Quantum Kush and Ia buddy has a rooted Trainwreck mom that if I would like to take clones from I may whenever I wish in the future.. Things that aren't flowering aren't needed on the plant. Anything that is flowering you should always keep. Those are were the good .3 - .5 nugs are found :D. You just have to 'talk' to the plant. She'll always tell you exactly what she wants and when she wants it. My future diaries will all be custom strains from this day forward. You'll get to see them made here.
CaliGrown
CaliGrown
@DabCrab, two word Bag Appeal. The only reason I see fit to do it at this point. I'm going to let them go next time and not trim up the lower section.
DabCrab
DabCrab
@AlaskanGrownCaliRaised, I would like to state that I don't consider anything that comes out of my mouth to be knowledge or fact; only personal experiences that have taught me a thing or two. Everyone has their own preferences. If you cut everything off the plant it's not hard to deduce that what you don't cut off with grow larger and thicker. Thicker and larger buds on the plant don't always mean higher yield though and it's a common misconception that it does. When you grow an 8 ft plant with a massive wide canopy if you lollipopped the whole thing you'd be losing a 1/4 to a 1/2 pound of popcorn nugs. It's more efficient to supplement lighting and make sure the plant grows as it wants to. You'd never see an outdoor grower lollipop their plants lower half so if you can achieve par lumens on the lower canopy why wouldn't you keep you? You dig mate?
BigDaddyK
BigDaddyKweek 15
Indeed
Tazard
Tazardweek 21
I use 4 LED's and a 1000w hps 😁
Tazard
Tazard
@DabCrab, thanks I just read and apply 😂. Although this 14h light in flower with IR burst scares me but it's almost gotta work. I'm in northern hemisphere about even with Humboldt County if flowering starts August 1 that is a 14h day here. September 25 is the 12/12 day here (this year). Since a 10w plant finishes mid October. What do you think about it?
DabCrab
DabCrab
@Tazard1, I've seen your journals and I'm a huge fan of the way you are doing things :D Your tent is nice and you've done a great job keeping the temperature down for all those lights being in there. Those plants clearly love the spectrum you are giving them :D
JUNGLE_B4RNS
JUNGLE_B4RNSweek 16
Maybe a lil picture with true colors would be awesome 😊
JUNGLE_B4RNS
JUNGLE_B4RNS
@DabCrab,wonderful 👍 They're really nice and frosty 👌
DabCrab
DabCrab
@JUNGLE_B4RNS, I got you mate. Posted for you. They are a little hazey because it's hard to get good lighting in the area. I hope that helps :D
Teamdirtbag2
Teamdirtbag2week 20
This is just getting freaking creepy can't we just grow some weed
DabCrab
DabCrab
@Teamdirtbag2, Thats what I'm saying. He's just being a huge creep ball trying to start drama. He needs to go away.
Tazard
Tazardweek 21
Yeah I saw a ceramic hps somewhere. Hortilux maybe....
BigDaddyK
BigDaddyK
@Tazard1,yes BigBri420 has one
DabCrab
DabCrab
@Tazard1, They appear to be a very interesting combination of hardware. I'm going to have to check them out. I'd love to see what you do with one if you decide to buy one :D
Tazard
Tazard
@DabCrab, this is advertised as a ceramic HPS. http://www.eyehortilux.com/products/ceramic-hps.aspx
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Tazard
Tazardweek 21
Not pumping a light but I have (5) galaxyhydro 300w (100pcs @3w) UV and IR included. I use 4 to supplement the 1000w HPS and the other is in my clone vegative tent. They also make a 300w with 60 5w diodes unless you have plenty of room stay away from the 5w diodes.
DabCrab
DabCrab
@Tazard1, The technology has certainly come a long way even in the last few years alone. I can't wait to see what comes after COB's. Maybe Super COBS!!!!
Tazard
Tazard
@DabCrab, yeah these are 145+/-5w even with dual cooling fans.
DabCrab
DabCrab
@Tazard1, I've always admired Mars Hydro products. They do a good job and have a wide range of options for whatever your needs may be. Viparspectra are my poison at the moment. Gotta love a 300W light that averages 136W of power use. I bought these when they were the first people really using 5 watt diodes. http://ledgrowlightguide.com/viparspectra-reflector-series-review https://www.estagecraft.com/viparspectra-reflector-300-watt/ https://www.420beginner.com/viparspectra-300w-led-grow-light-review/ ^^^ A few reviews of them Now there are many people doing much different things like higher wattage diodes and even the new Chips on board technology (COB's). Once the life of these runs out I'll probably be building myself a COB light just to see for myself what all the hype is about. They've done wonders in a few of my friends gardens so I can't wait to try them out myself.
JUNGLE_B4RNS
JUNGLE_B4RNSweek 17
I like the lower buds who try to escape from the tent. It must be a bud explosion when you open the tent 😄
DabCrab
DabCrab
@JUNGLE_B4RNS, There just aren't enough good problems in growing. I'm happy to have one of them. The goal is to achieve the most from such a tiny space. I'm hoping to do that. We shall see :D
JUNGLE_B4RNS
JUNGLE_B4RNS
@DabCrab,yeah I see what you mean, it's a good problem 😄
DabCrab
DabCrab
@JUNGLE_B4RNS, Every time I open the tent they fall out. They are literally being supported by the negative pressure on the tent walls. It's a good time for sure :D
Teamdirtbag2
Teamdirtbag2week 20
Nice job dab , I think I'd really like to try some of that 👏👏 👍😎
BigDaddyK
BigDaddyK
@DabCrab,do they say that in America ?
DabCrab
DabCrab
@Teamdirtbag2, I got you fam :D
Tazard
Tazardweek 15
Sexy ladies you have there. Let me know how you do with the heat from the side lighting.
Tazard
Tazard
@DabCrab,👍👊
DabCrab
DabCrab
@Tazard1, I currently have no side lighting yet; As for the heat from the 3 LED's, my air filtration system seems to keep things perfectly at 75 Degrees Fahrenheit. Thanks for asking :D
DeepRoot3d
DeepRoot3dweek 21
@DabCrab, those are some beautiful looking buds you've got there! congratulations on the successful harvest.
DabCrab
DabCrab
@DeepRoot3d, Thanks buddy. This was just a trial run on me being lazy while also trying something new. Should be fun the next time I really go for it. I learned a lot this time through. Thanks for the kind words :D
GardenOfHerbs
GardenOfHerbsweek 21
Still looks really good! Foxtail happens mostly when temps are to high? I get it alot, especialy in summer 👊
DabCrab
DabCrab
@GardenOfHerbs, Yeah, the problem was that the temperature never went above 75 degrees F. She's just such a sensitive plant that it could have been a multitude of problems. Every forum I've read on Trainwreck says that everything can cause her to foxtail. Having the Par be too high can even cause it which is just surprising to me.
Gregedgar
Gregedgarweek 16
Ausgezeichnetes Tagebuch
Mr_Positivo
Mr_Positivoweek 16
Loving the comments section in your grow. Keep it up guys and DC.
Mr_Positivo
Mr_Positivoweek 14
Your ladies are looking great, DC.
BigDaddyK
BigDaddyKweek 20
So are you refusing to change the diary details which clearly state you must not deliberately mislead , it says 193.93 grams per plant , which is clearly a lie as you grew 4 . Do you want me to send you a screenshot ?
DabCrab
DabCrab
@BigDaddyK, Seeing as that'd be a federal and international crime, no. Plus I only smoke with chill people.
BigDaddyK
BigDaddyK
@DabCrab,so would you send me some ?
DabCrab
DabCrab
@BigDaddyK, You are aware I live in a legal state and I comply with all my states laws right? You however do not.
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Teamdirtbag2
Teamdirtbag2week 21
Nice Very Nice. Looking good ,👍👍 Nice close up pic 👍
DabCrab
DabCrab
@Teamdirtbag2, Lol, I'm thinking anything with a higher megapixel camera will do a better job. I'm working off of a lowly 8MP phone camera. Soon it shall be much better :D
Teamdirtbag2
Teamdirtbag2
@DabCrab, Bro your pics are beautiful... Can they get nicer ??? I don't think there's any Room for improvement.
DabCrab
DabCrab
@Teamdirtbag2, Thanks Brett. Soon I shall have a new and better camera for nicer close ups and pictures.
Tazard
Tazardweek 20
Very nice! Glad to see you bothered to make the numbers work!
Tazard
Tazard
@DabCrab, do you have issues during intraweekly updates with units changing (i.e. Inches to cm or ml/g to ml/l)?
DabCrab
DabCrab
@Tazard1, I've noticed that you have to pay a heck of a lot of attention to the input system here to make sure things are adequately depicted in your journals. I just want to make sure things are correct or as correct as they can be so people know exactly what I am doing.