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Indo Products Light Emitting Diodes/110W
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Indo Products Light Emitting Diodes/110W
Indo Products
Indoor
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LST
weeks Technique
HST
weeks Technique
Topping
weeks Technique
Defoliation
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11 L
Pot Size
3.79 L
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Week 1. Vegetation
6 years ago
3.81 cm
18 hrs
26 °C
6.6
58 %
21 °C
23 °C
21 °C
11 L
0 L
60.96 cm
450 PPM
Nutrients 1
All Purpose - Gaia Green
All Purpose 15.625 mll
1 - (03/14) Starting my new seeds, my other order for the Barney's never came in the mail. Must be "lost"... Decided to go get something semi locally. Picked up 2 strains and got the free Early Miss as well. Germination has started as of 03/13, paper towel transfer at 03/14 (approximately 16 hours later). Tent is sanitized and the new LED I'll be running is almost here. (Decided to wait on the full spectrum) Following guidelines as per Crop Kings recommendation for germination. We'll see in the next 48 how well they have developed under the paper towel. This plant will be grown alongside the Early Miss and quite possibly the GSC from Sun West Genetics as well. The GSC and EM will have separate diaries, so be sure to check those out as well! This grown will be done in the Indo 4*2*5 tent. Thank you to everyone that chimed in on my last failed grows, I look forward to some success after the excellent suggestions I received from everybody. Super excited! Happy growing! 2 - 03/16 - Looks like a good start to the germination. 48 hours after they were dumped from the glasses. Waiting for those t roots to get a bit bigger yet. 3 - 03/17 - 72 Hours later, forgot to get in the tent and remoisten the paper towels last night, just got up at 4am and they were pretty dry. Tap root looks to have lost some moisture, I'm just hoping I didn't already fuck them up this time. Shouldn't have drank so much on my 30th. Happy Saint Patrick's day to y'all! Hopefully they suck up some water and bounce back by midday. Going to put them in jiffys or rock cubes tomorrow. 4 - 03/18 - Planted in their first pots. Due to the nature of my last grow, I've decided to start the other 2 girls in a jiffy. Placed the jiffy into a smaller pot (approx. .25g?) That is filled with my Mo Koko, gia green organics 4-4-4 all purpose, 40% worm castings and a higher 60-70% perlite ratio. I plan on testing the runoff from the pots and the Early Miss is in a felt pot, so I figured it would be a great idea to accommodate for the additional moisture those felt ones hang onto. Probably going to uproot the EM tonight and transfer it to a jiffy as well then get it into a plastic pot. (Edit - decided against it) I'm going to run two 3 gallon pot sizes for both of my autos and eventually upsize to a 5 gallon for the GSC PP. Going to get some nicer domes today. Getting pumped. Almost through the germination process and onto Day 1 of Veg. 😎 Video update later today! 5 - 03/19 - All the girls are popping up out of the soil and should shed the seedling casings within 24hrs. Off to a much better start! The EM somehow came out, big surprise to see it. Not as pronounced as the other girls, but nonetheless. Stoked. Ended my day by them officially being in Veg Day 1. 6 - 03/20 - Well yesterday was officially day 1 of week 1 in Veg and as of this morning all 3 girls look great. Definitely feeling more confident this time through. 7 - 03/23 - Made some adjustments to the diary, measured the girls and corrected my Veg days. Moving forward, I'll do week to week updates on the girls and daily pictures of growth progress. 8 - 03/26 - Day 7 for all the girls. CC is definitely on the weakest link list. The EM has shocked me entirely. GSC is progressing as I figured she should. Today I am finally going to scoop my new light. So stoked 🙌 Girls get to go into week 2 with a heavy adjustment on their total wattage. I'll update later this evening with a photo update and video of the new light and the girls. Thanks for following, don't forget to hit the like! Cheers 🌱 End of the week, new lights in the tent. Running a bit hot right now so I have some work cut out for me. On to the next week.
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JBOrganix
JBOrganixstarted grow question 6 years ago
Looking for a suggestion, check the photos of the lights for the details. My space is a 4L×2W×5T. Just wondering if anyone has experience with a similar space and running LED system with either 300w or 600w. I'd like to go the distance.
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Experimentgreenanswered grow question 6 years ago
Hey there ive got a 4x5x2 going right now too, with 2 300 leds. It was going good with 1 when the plants were smaller, but once they got a little bigger they needed their own light. This rose the temperature and i needed to add on a 4 in intake duct fan, it helped but lowered humidity intensely. My 2 36 inch plants are handling the light well but also running out of decent light to plant space...so definitely lst or top etc and you'll have much more room to work with and maybe won't battle some slight light burn like mine. Especially with the bump up to the 600 watt light you'll definitely want to keep the plants as low and flat canopy as possible. Good luck with the new gear. Love the baller dollar dome lol.✌️
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Week 2. Vegetation
6 years ago
5.72 cm
18 hrs
26 °C
6.6
56 %
22 °C
23 °C
23 °C
11 L
1 L
45.72 cm
450 PPM
Nutrients 2
MAX Minerals - Indo Products Inc
MAX Minerals 0.132 mll
MAX Grow - Indo Products Inc
MAX Grow 0.264 mll
1 - 03/27 - Starting up week #2. New light is installed, will be monitoring the set up now since the new light is 800w. Tent temperature peaked yesterday at 85. Added a big fan in the tent and an additional fan for circulation outside of the tent as well. Going to need my air scrubber sooner than later to help keep my temps in check. Likely need a cool mist humidifier as well now. Woohoo. At least they are all still standing! 2 - 03/27 - The new LED at 800 watts is far too much. The tent was heating up uncontrollably past 86, so I decided to take it back and grab the single 400 for the time being. That way at a later date I can upgrade to a secondary 400 and still pull equal wattage. Also added a 6in inline fan to help keep the tent cooler. Sitting around 76 -80 now so I'm pretty happy with it. The 400 run quite a bit cooler than the 800 does. The 800 brought my tent up another 10 degrees whereas the 400 unit sits my tent up at 3 degrees. All in all, feeling good about the swap and new lights. Time will tell if I need anything additional come first week of flower. 03 - 03/31 - Almost nearing the end of week 2. The girls are doing amazing. Candy Cane is finally catching up and everybody is filling out now. Super cool to see what a week does! 🌱 Each of the ladies received some very light LST last night. Light pull on the leaves downwards to pull the top open and create some more developmental growth. I also decided to run a really light liquid nutrient cycle. I'll post the product and details tonight. Happy growing! 🌱
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Week 3. Vegetation
6 years ago
7.62 cm
18 hrs
27 °C
6.6
Weak
56 %
23 °C
23 °C
23 °C
11 L
2 L
45.72 cm
450 PPM
Nutrients 2
MAX Minerals - Indo Products Inc
MAX Minerals 0.132 mll
MAX Grow - Indo Products Inc
MAX Grow 0.264 mll
1 - 04-03 - Week 3, Day 1! I'll do a decent update on all the diaries tonight. Happy growing! 🌱 -Tonight- Update; Did some LST across the board. Various amounts of training for each of them, dependent on their individual growth and development needs. (Honestly just going for it lol) Anyways, no water for them for the last 48 hours. They'll likely get a nutrient drink tomorrow night. Still a bit oversaturated... Still looking good, excited for another week of development from these girls. 🌱👍
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Week 4. Flowering
6 years ago
7.62 cm
18 hrs
27 °C
6.6
Weak
56 %
23 °C
23 °C
23 °C
11 L
4 L
60.96 cm
450 PPM
Nutrients 2
MAX Minerals - Indo Products Inc
MAX Minerals 0.132 mll
MAX Grow - Indo Products Inc
MAX Grow 0.264 mll
1 - 04 - 10 - Day 1 of Flower. She's showing signs already. The EM is still behind her for time frame. I'll post a more updated diary entry later on this evening. 2 - 04 -16 - I've been the shits for keeping up with the verbal end of things. Hopefully the photos are doing enough justice. Feel free to follow me on Instagram as well. Same username. Anyhow, I topped dressed both flowering plants this morning. 1tblsp of 4-4-4 and 3 tblsp of 2-8-4 from Gaia Green Organics. They seem to be doing well. I've done daily LST for weeks on end. Leaf tucks every day multiple times per day. I've also clipped some of the lower end of the plant away. Some big fans are no more as they seem to be soaking up the majority of the food and blocking key flower sites.
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Week 5. Flowering
6 years ago
7.62 cm
18 hrs
27 °C
6.6
Weak
56 %
23 °C
23 °C
23 °C
11 L
4 L
60.96 cm
450 PPM
Nutrients 2
MAX Minerals - Indo Products Inc
MAX Minerals 0.132 mll
MAX Grow - Indo Products Inc
MAX Grow 0.264 mll
2 - 04 -16 - I've been the shits for keeping up with the verbal end of things. Hopefully the photos are doing enough justice. Feel free to follow me on Instagram as well. Same username. Anyhow, I topped dressed both flowering plants this morning. 1tblsp of 4-4-4 and 3 tblsp of 2-8-4 from Gaia Green Organics. They seem to be doing well. I've done daily LST for weeks on end. Leaf tucks every day multiple times per day. I've also clipped some of the lower end of the plant away. Some big fans are no more as they seem to be soaking up the majority of the food and blocking key flower sites.
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Week 6. Flowering
6 years ago
16.51 cm
18 hrs
27 °C
6.6
Weak
56 %
24 °C
24 °C
23 °C
11 L
4 L
60.96 cm
450 PPM
Nutrients 2
MAX Minerals - Indo Products Inc
MAX Minerals 0.132 mll
MAX Grow - Indo Products Inc
MAX Grow 0.264 mll
On to week 3 of flower! Girls are going to have a relaxing week to bring on some new legs 😁 Should be a big week for them all to gain some serious height. Getting really excited! 👊🌱 Well on a more serious note, this candy cane is definitely a dwarfed one. Not sure if I overdid the LST or just stunted it when I moved her up into a bigger pot size. My future autos from Barney's will be done in 3 & 5 gallons from seed. 👍🌱
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JBOrganix
JBOrganixstarted grow question 6 years ago
Clearly she's heavily stunted, yet she is showing some good signs of strong production at the bud sites. Any thoughts on what could have been the actual reason it's stunted/dwarfed? Did I potentially over-train? Funky seed? Transplant issues? Have a look through the weeks, lmk!
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Philindicusanswered grow question 6 years ago
For starters work with what you have. Personally I think topping/ fimming small auto flowers is a waste of time. Their life span is so short you lose valuable vegetative time/energy when you top. If she was a XL or XXL variety and you had limited room it would work. LST is the way to go. Your ph of 6.6 could be part of the issue it's too high for soil less you should be down around 5.7 to 6.0. You should also be checking the ph and TDS of your runoff to give you a better idea of whats going on in the root zone. The lower ph would have helped the roots take in more nutrients. I also think you may have been under feeding her. I'm unsure about the N-P-K ratio of your nutes but you may want to tweek your regime by either increasing your nutes or using additional beneficial products. Don't be fooled by the size of the plant sometimes the smaller buds are the most potent. Good luck
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Week 7. Flowering
6 years ago
17.78 cm
18 hrs
27 °C
6.6
Weak
56 %
24 °C
24 °C
23 °C
11 L
4 L
60.96 cm
450 PPM
Nutrients 2
MAX Minerals - Indo Products Inc
MAX Minerals 0.132 mll
MAX Grow - Indo Products Inc
MAX Grow 0.264 mll
Into week 4 of flower. The CC is definitely a stunted plant or bad bean; popped 3 more CC beans, 2 in 1 out. I will definitely see this one through, she's got another 5 weeks in flower yet so we'll see how much mass she's going to tack on in the next few weeks. 💪🌱
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Week 8. Flowering
6 years ago
17.78 cm
18 hrs
27 °C
6.6
Weak
56 %
24 °C
24 °C
23 °C
11 L
4 L
60.96 cm
450 PPM
Nutrients 2
MAX Minerals - Indo Products Inc
MAX Minerals 0.132 mll
MAX Grow - Indo Products Inc
MAX Grow 0.264 mll
Down to the last few remaining weeks. Hopefully she'll pull an ounce lol 🙌💪 Definitely has nice stacks. We'll see if she shapes up in the last few weeks here! - She's definitely got some heavy trich development and a density I cannot explain. Sticky to the touch; this girl releases a unique aroma once the nugs are squeezed. It's a rather unique smell that has a heavy fruity/berry presence. I'm sure the smoke will be phenomenal. 💪 FW5D7 - looks to have some issues not sure... Deficiency in manganese, molybdenum, potassium or zinc? Potentially a toxicity? Hmmm..
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Week 9. Flowering
6 years ago
17.78 cm
18 hrs
27 °C
6.6
Strong
56 %
24 °C
24 °C
23 °C
11 L
4 L
60.96 cm
450 PPM
Nutrients 2
MAX Minerals - Indo Products Inc
MAX Minerals 0.132 mll
MAX Grow - Indo Products Inc
MAX Grow 0.264 mll
Getting close now. She's pretty upset about the last dry amendment feed she received; which was quite some time ago. Looks like she's got some signs of nutrient burn. Assuming that she didn't like the ratios that I used with the others. Definitely will adjust the mix for the other 2 during their next top dress. Still looks like she's produced some intense buds 💪 So I have hopes that she'll be one hell of a smoke. 🥊🔥🌱
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Week 10. Flowering
6 years ago
17.78 cm
18 hrs
27 °C
6.6
Strong
56 %
24 °C
24 °C
23 °C
11 L
4 L
60.96 cm
450 PPM
Nutrients 2
MAX Minerals - Indo Products Inc
MAX Minerals 0.132 mll
MAX Grow - Indo Products Inc
MAX Grow 0.264 mll
Small but deadly. She's going to be some seriously good smoke. Smells absolutely incredible. Hopefully she will finish up by the end of the week, just waiting on trichromes to finish up 🌱🙌 She's finished up week 7, I've left her 24 hours so far... She'll continue to sleep throughout the afternoon but I'll be chopping her sooner than later as I plan to chop her down with my homie bakedpotatogrows 💪🌱 ***She's officially been chopped ✂️🌱*** I'll be drying and completing the trim work for harvest prior to the diary update. 💪👍🙌
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Week 10. Harvest
6 years ago
Happy Harvest Day!
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Still waiting for a full cure. Should be a couple weeks. It still reeks like berries, even through the hay smell during dry. So that's exciting. Pretty much did what I assumed she'd do.
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Creative, Relaxed, Sleepy
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Dry eyes, Dry mouth
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Berries, Diesel, Mint
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Update 🌱👊 Half oz dry from this 6.5" plant. This particular candy cane had a plethora of problems. The candy cane was germinated and vegged with only 400 watts as I had not acquired a second light yet. So that likely plays a good role in the plants total growth. Upon further review after the harvest I pulled apart the root base to have a better look of what was going on. I noticed that the roots couldn't even push through the bottom of the jiffy puck. So it more than likely started stunting at that point. I overtrained this plant as I wanted to push the genetics to see how far they can go. It's definitely been a lesson learned, thankfully I have two more that are currently finishing up week 4 of flower. Although it was a small plant and it was my first grow, she only truly received 400 watts through veg (true wattage per light unit is approx 105 true watts). So she actually probably ran closer to 300 watts in flower. I would definitely like to get a little bit more supplemental lighting in there and possibly bring my temperatures down ever so slightly. These buds turned out quite airy but I do believe that goes hand-in-hand with my temps being between 80-83 and the fact that these flower on day one of the fourth week. I have the other three CC planted and they are all eight weeks total in so far. They will be the last seeds I run from CKS. Unless the smoke blows me away. 💪🙌🌱👍👊
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Experimentgreen
Experimentgreencommentedweek 16 years ago
Hey so i had 2 different brand 300 watt leds...and it was insane how much better the 1 worked over the other. The plant under the faulty light was much less matured and far less trichromes...i replaced that light with a new one, it must only be good for veg not flower.✌️
JBOrganix
JBOrganixcommented6 years ago
@Ga4rd2en0er, my mistake. www.growindo.com
JBOrganix
JBOrganixcommented6 years ago
@Ga4rd2en0er, I grabbed mine from Indo Products in Surrey, British Columbia Canada. I think the website is www.indoproducts.ca or com. It's a business, they are registered and the equipment is top quality. They do tons of different equipment and have some pretty large tents. 10'*10' soon in stock. I'll post some information on the nutrients I'm using for the one. They are done by Indo as well (you can find them online) Btw. That's exactly where I'm trying to be. I've done all the math and I can likely run 2 400's with good success. They suggested that, but I was tempted to see the output of the 800 and push my space to it's maximum.
Ga4rd2en0er
Ga4rd2en0ercommented6 years ago
@JBOrganix, sorry, i read through and couldn't determin whom you bought the lights from. Is it an actual business or a small home garage operation? I like to run my rooms at around 50 to 60w per sqft if possible. Ive hermied a plant in the past from too intense led lighting. Thanks for the info!!
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Silverback_Guerilla
Silverback_Guerillacommentedweek 16 years ago
Howdy- I feel your pain regarding the battle of light versus heat..I'm pulling my hair out for the past several days with finding the right combination of light and ventilation in my rig now that I'm trying to run two flowering tents in the room instead of just one...if I can pull it off I'll have a helluva harvest, but I'm not sure what it will take to achieve optimal flowering temps without sacrificing too much PAR quite yet...😕 If you haven't grown Candy Cane yet, you're gonna love it. Delicious and plenty potent. If you let them go to about 30%-40% amber trichromes before you kill them, it will kick your ass.👍 If you can dramatically increase the CO2 levels in your tent, you can get away with much more light...and also much more HEAT without any detrimental effects to your crop. Strive for maintaining 1400ppm while your lights are on...achieve that, and your plants can tolerate 100f temps during flower with no leaf damage, diminished flavor, aroma, or potency. Also, I've seen much, and had some success with quantum board or quantum bar lights. You can get beaucoup PAR without nearly as much heat as COBs or blurples...especially if you have some direct airflow over them. Good luck with finding the perfect balance!
Silverback_Guerilla
Silverback_Guerillacommented6 years ago
@JBOrganix, With autos, I always think it best to transplant as early as possible, but I did have to transplant one on my last grow about a week after it started flowering...and she did fine.
JBOrganix
JBOrganixcommented6 years ago
@Silverback_Guerilla, I still have to transplant my GSC at some point here. I was thinking about either doing it at the start of week 3 or end of 3. Just not sure if waiting will be too late or going straight at it now being too soon. Any thoughts? Thanks! 🌱
JBOrganix
JBOrganixcommented6 years ago
@Silverback_Guerilla, really appreciate the comment. What kind of space are you working with? I debated on not even tenting as it's already in a 10*4 closet. I think the 800w just made me nervous, likely a smart buy in the end but didn't want to do any damage with light burn or otherwise. I will upgrade to the 2 / 400s. (Should achieve 600 total then) I wanted to be at least 600w for a 4*2 canopy space. My space never leaves 40-60 Rh. Even outside my tent. As for co2. I'm currently not running any. Just posted for 450 as that's a near standard for air in a room that size with the transfer I have going. I almost did the burple but went with the cree full spectrum unit. I think it's their bulbs under a custom ballast box unit. I was going to go into a different lighting unit all together but the price point for these two is unbeatable. $150 /400w $300 /800w. I ended up getting some more filters and fans which has changed my atmospheric temps and kept my tent at roughly 75.8 - 79.5. doesn't leave that during lights on, no cooler than 70 at night. Hopefully it gets sorted for flower. Feeling like I'll be running the 2 400's. I'm tempted on trying a sunrise and sunset style run going from L-R 6hrs for left, both run 6, then 6 for right. I also have some supplemental side profiled lighting. 18k T5's that are high burple specific. Lots of purples less blues. It's a marine light and I use them for the first and last hour of each day
Mrs_Larimar
Mrs_Larimarcommentedweek 16 years ago
The true wattage is 300 w? then i would start with around 40 cm from the plants, and watch them. Maybe you have your grow light from your grow before .... i woud use it until they are old enough for more
Mrs_Larimar
Mrs_Larimarcommented6 years ago
@JBOrganix,looking good!!
JBOrganix
JBOrganixcommented6 years ago
@Mrs_Larimar, thanks for the reply. I did return the Home Depot special. It was only 32 true watts. I still currently have my 2 T5's with a 24" 10k bulb and a 12" 18k bulb. Just lowered the 24" over top of my dome canopy. You can see the update in the video/photos.
Puffer_Bill
Puffer_Billcommentedweek 76 years ago
Strong bud sites. 💪🏽🙂👊🏼
JBOrganix
JBOrganixcommented6 years ago
@Puffer_Bill, thanks man! I'm pretty excited to see how she forms up at the end of it all. 👍
buddha61
buddha61commentedweek 16 years ago
Best of luck. I would be careful about adding too much perlite. It can cause you to have to water more often, as you have less medium to hold moisture near the roots.
JBOrganix
JBOrganixcommented6 years ago
@buddha61, thanks! Yeah I was slightly cautious of the perlite. I've seen a few grows now that have benefited from the additional perlite content to the coco medium. I had concerns before with them hanging onto too much moisture; this has me watering once every 2 days currently. I'm sure things will change once it starts to get some legs.
NomNom
NomNomcommentedweek 16 years ago
Love the martini glass!
JBOrganix
JBOrganixcommented6 years ago
@NomNom, thanks! I like the convenience. Just grabbed a few random clean unused containers I had kicking around!
GrowBeforeHoe
GrowBeforeHoecommentedweek 106 years ago
Congrats to harvest! 👏🏼 Enjoy it. 🌬️👍🏻
GrowBeforeHoe
GrowBeforeHoecommentedweek 96 years ago
She looks a bit stressed but like you said I think she will produce a nice smoke! 👍🏻💚
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