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ProfessorSkiSlopes ProfessorSkiSlopes
6 years ago
INTRODUCTION ============== Hi there, this is effectively my first grow - I have no experience with Hybridised feminised seeds, or Autoflowers, or Tents, or Carbon filters, or extraction fans, or LED lights, or humidity control, or Temp control, or coco feeding with a nutrient armoury comprising seven products. This entire endeavor is being done on the back of massive amounts of Internet research, looking at other diaries on here, and the commitment of a large part of my resources in both time and money. It took months of research to come to the choice of Quantum Boards, Fastbuds seeds, Coco, Flairform nutrient range , and a closed tent controlled ducted, humidity/temp controlled environment as being my best arrangement for optimum massive sticky bud production. However, the lack of practical experience is a huge factor, so I expect to see mistakes, possibly catastrophes. I also see huge advantage in LST but for my first grow I've decided to let them just go natural and try LST on my next grow. AIMS FOR THIS GROW AND THIS DIARY ================================ I will do my best to make this a detailed, complete and informational diary with high quality imagery and video. and I will do my best to make this an attentively monitored grow and give it everything I have to get the best result I can. I would ideally like to get 8 plants with 3-5 ounces each (however unlikely for my first grow) this will be the ongoing goal for my grows using this setup. Welcome and thank you for joining me. All comments, questions and suggestions are highly welcome. GROW SETUP ============ Gorilla Glue Auto plants from Fastbuds, in a 1.2m by 1.2m by 2m grow tent. They are growing in 13.6 Litres airpots. Each Airpot has 2 Litres of Canna expanded clay balls in the base, followed by a 20/80 mix of growstones (essentially synthetic perlite) and Canna pro plus coco coir. The concentration of growstones is stratified, with a larger density of growstones in the bottom quarter, less in the next quarter, less in the next, and the top quarter is pure coco with no growstones. The lighting is four quantum q288 boards, each has 288 samsung LM301b diodes for a total of 1156 diodes, at 3500k running at a combined 480watts for a total PPDF of 1176 umol. This is a DIY clone version of the HLG-550 and was purchased from Kingbrite on Alibaba for $400USD including International Express DHL Shipping. The quality of the light and its components are all high quality genuine parts. The Coco was given an initial pre-treatment watering with a 20% strength Flairform nutrient mix in distilled water with 20% strength Cal-Mag additive and full strength rooting additive and 40% strength kelp extract. This had a PH of 5.9 (unadjusted) and a PPM of 200. The watering was done to an approx 20% run off. The growstones were rinsed with ph balanced water before being mixed with the coco. GERMINATION ============ The seeds were germinated using the tissue paper technique. They were left to germinate and then transplanted directly into their final pots. They were probably in the tissue a bit too long, and the tap roots got to around 3cm, so I made narrow holes in the coco and placed the tap root into the hole, and left the unopened cotyledon/seed hull just above the surface of the coco. This seems to have worked well and as soon as the first light cycle came on the cotyledons opened and photosynthesis turned things a great minty green. ENVIRONMENT ============= The light have been set to approx 1/2 intensity for this initial seedling stage (260w) and the lights have been suspended 80cm above the canopy. This is my first experience with LED lights so I've been experimenting with heights and intensities to try and dial-in the ideal settings. For the first several days the lights were hung at 120cm at 380w. Air circulation is provided is via a tent-pole mounted (re-purposed ordinary household stand) fan. I used a laboratory lab clamp and drilled a hole in the fan plastic stand housing to mount the fan on the clamp, this positions the fan far enough out from the corner of the tent to allow the fan to fully oscillate through 90 degrees and rotate from one side of the tent to the other. Air Ventilation will be provided via a (170m3/hr) 100mm booster fan that ducts (via 100mm ducting) to a second tent which has a carbon filter and centrifugal exhaust fan which ducts out of the room and into the roof space. The light doesn't throw out much heat (compared to a HID) so I'm just leaving the top of the door unzipped to ventilate at the moment and that is working fine for now. Humidity/Temp monitoring is provided by a wireless monitoring station with 3 wireless monitors. I have one in each of my tents and one in the grow room itself, and the monitoring station is in my bedroom, allowing me to keep an eye on the growing environmentals whenever I like without needing to open up the growroom or the tents. (You can get one of these on ebay for around $30 USD with 3 remote sensors). PH monitoring is done via a bluelabs PH Pen. This cost ten times as much as the cheap PH pen I was using, but it is worth every cent to have reliable quick PH reading capabilities. (Just search bluelabs on google, they retail for around $90 USD). REMAINING GOALS ================ 1) Water quality management via a Reverse Osmosis water filter system. 2) Temperature control via simple temperature controller and fan heater (this will be managed at room level rather than tent level) 3) Plant leaf temperature monitoring via Infrared thermometer Gun. 4) Humidity control via controller and humidifier/dehumidifier setup.
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Grow Questions
ProfessorSkiSlopes
ProfessorSkiSlopesstarted grow question 6 years ago
Hi there, does anyone have any idea what the slight mottling is on the leaves of two of my plants. There are close-up pictures under Day 27 in Week 4. The discolouration is present across multiple leaves, but seems to only be happening to two plants out of 8. Thanks!
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skybound
skyboundanswered grow question 6 years ago
I suspect the mottling is a combo deficiency between Ca and K, though I'd go so far as to say that both look minor so maybe not try to fix either. If you're using nutrient salts you can isolate a specific element to tweak, but most nute brands have multiple things mixed in the bottles so if you tweak any thing, you end up tweaking several things which will cause other problems. If interested, I made a tutorial for using Hydro Buddy to reverse engineer your nutrients, then you would be able to play around with tweaking the nutes in theory before actually changing anything in practice. https://www.420magazine.com/community/threads/making-your-own-nutrient-concentrates.455187/
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Fast_Buds
Fast_Budsweek 1
What a great looking diary so far! Thanks for growing faster with us, let us know if you need anything ๐Ÿ’š
Fast_Buds
Fast_Buds
@ProfessorSkiSlopes, I'm sure you can! Our genetics are in good hands=)
ProfessorSkiSlopes
ProfessorSkiSlopes
Thank you @Fast_Buds! I hope I can do your fine genetics justice.
ProfessorSkiSlopes
ProfessorSkiSlopesweek 13
Come over tomorrow hehehe I'll roll a few fatties for you, and even make you a coffee *grin*
Puffer_Bill
Puffer_Billweek 9
Looking very buddy in your camp.๐Ÿ‘Š๐Ÿผ๐Ÿ˜Ž๐Ÿ‘Š๐Ÿผ
Puffer_Bill
Puffer_Bill
@ProfessorSkiSlopes, Definitely an exciting time now. ๐Ÿ‘Š๐Ÿผ๐Ÿ˜Ž๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿผ
ProfessorSkiSlopes
ProfessorSkiSlopes
@Puffer_Bill, Thank you! It really is starting to look great now when I open the tent. It's amazing how fast the plants go into flower and suddenly there are buds everywhere! The next 3 or so weeks are going to be really fun to watch them thicken out!
ivik80
ivik80week 8
Looking good mate! Glad to see you have dialed in the MG issues, good idea to take the ph up a bit so MG will be taken care of easier. I always have different PH on each feeding just to be sure all nutes will be taken up during a 1 week period at least. I try to keep it around 6.5 but I play around that. Once perhaps 6.3, next 6.5, then 6,7 and then back to 6.3 or 6.5 and so on... I try to at least never feed same ph after each other.
ivik80
ivik80
@ProfessorSkiSlopes, No idea, I use organics so I cannot even look at PPM or EC. I never heard of anyone being able to do that but it seems like something really good if it is possible?
ProfessorSkiSlopes
ProfessorSkiSlopes
@ivik80, That's a great idea. I've decided to the same myself, and will look to bounce the PH between 6.0 and 6.5 over each week, and then drop in a 5.8 or 6.7 a couple times a month.. I'll fine tune it as I go. I was aiming for 6.1 on every watering, and I think it was causing some issues with micronutrient uptake. It would be great to be able to get the run-off analysed and be able to see exactly how much of each nutrient they are consuming... I wonder if there are any test-kits or similar out there to do this.. hmmm.
Fast_Buds
Fast_Budsweek 7
Hey there! You're babies are looking just fine. Great work, I'm sure you are learning a lot with this hehe. Trial and error is always the best way to gain knowledge. Well done. I'm sure things will be a bit easier from here on out ๐Ÿ™Œ๐Ÿผ
Fast_Buds
Fast_Buds
@ProfessorSkiSlopes, No problem!! We're here if you need anything๐Ÿ™Œ๐Ÿผ
ProfessorSkiSlopes
ProfessorSkiSlopes
@Fast_Buds, Cheers guys. The plants have come along way on the road to recovery in the last 3 days since I asked for your help.. So cross-fingers the grow is a easier from here on out, and that my mistakes so far will still allow for a reasonable yield. The Gorilla Glue certainly can take a hard life and bounce back that's for sure. Thank you for taking the time to check this diary for me.
Puffer_Bill
Puffer_Billweek 6
Yours are looking good. ๐Ÿ˜Ž๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿผ ( not sure about the leaf droop ) My first grow was GG4. It was quite resilient. From 4 plants I got over 16oz. Not including the buds I nibbled along the way. I over vegged them so ended up super cropping bending breaking etc... they took all the stress I gave them.
ProfessorSkiSlopes
ProfessorSkiSlopes
@Puffer_Bill, Cheers for the comment :) The plants have been looking great until this wilt thing. I've built a frame for the quantum boards that spreads them apart using the same dimensions as the original HLG-550 which should give better light distribution, and I'm going to try dropping an hour or so from the light cycle to try and mitigate the wilt. being autoflowers these guys have limited time to be at their optimum, and this wilt during the last 2-3 hours of the light cycle feels like it must be affecting end yield. I guess we will see!
ivik80
ivik80week 13
Nice harvest mate! So when should I come over and try out the new smoke? :D
ivik80
ivik80week 5
Hi Why do you want such a high leaf temp?
vito_f
vito_f
@ivik80, yes, check arduino or better yet get a nodemcu v2 and look at the blynk library and free iphone ios app. nodemcu is a very very small arduino-clone with builtin wifi (it costs about 2-5 โ‚ฌ/$). there are other multipurpose arduinos (clones) with wifi. blynk is a framework you can easily add to your sketch. blynk /arduino then connects to either a free cloud server hosted with them or (as i did, as a docker container in parallel to an openvpn server on a NAS) you can run it locally on a small server, so everything stays private. What is nice, the server feeds your arduino the current time now, also it can collect all kind of sensor data in your growroom. You can then build a dashboard app, all kinds of graphs easily in a matter of minutes and program your own light scheduler. it is amazingly awesome. ALso cool: once everything is installed you can update your sketches via wifi, feed videos or webcam shots of your growroom into the app, override the light status in your app, emergency heat shut down, push notifications, all kind of stuff. its nerdy AF, but also a very fun tech project if you're savvy. you can even let the units talk to each other, which i have not tried, build individual humidity/temp-nodes per tent or pot. adding or simulating a potentiometer would be a step depending on your tech setup then.
ivik80
ivik80
@ProfessorSkiSlopes, Ah man that sounds really nice, seems to be a lot of different fun stuff one could do with it. Like the weight of pot idea for watering! Ok then, I'll wait for you to make it all work and then you can show me what to buy and send over some scripts :) I'll copy/paste whatever u get going :D
ProfessorSkiSlopes
ProfessorSkiSlopes
@ivik80, It really is! I did a quick scan and there are already a couple of sunset/sunrise sketches out there, but the more I think about it, the more I think this is definitely a worthwhile project to investigate. Everything could be controlled from the potentiometer interface, and it would just need some sort of clock shield for the arduino, and it could manage the intensity of the light 24/7 - it would be good to have an LCD shield as well so it could display things like the time, and the intensity, so it could be spot checked in the tent. Having it do datalogging back to a PC or SD card would be good as well. Then the next step would be to interface it with the ventilation and circulation fans, and any cooling/heating equipment, along with any humidifying/dehumidifying gear. One could even implement moisture meters in all the pots, or even pressure sensors under the pots to watch weight, and it could then alert when watering/feeding was needed/optimal.. its all a very exciting field for future improvements to indoor operations that's for sure! - The great thing is that there is already a lot of work out there in this direction with Arduino, so its not even like it would have to be done from scratch. I look forward to investigating it once I have a few more harvests under my belt, and I have the practical experience to implement something more advanced than manual/thermostat/humidistat control.
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Cheezy
Cheezyweek 13
What a beautiful harvest! Congrats!
Cheezy
Cheezy
@ProfessorSkiSlopes, there is so much to be learnt by the experience of growing! There's already so much I would do different next time and I'm not even half way through my first grow :P I'm looking forward to seeing how what you've learned benefits you in your next grow!
ProfessorSkiSlopes
ProfessorSkiSlopes
@Cheezy, Thank you very much! :) I really enjoyed growing these plants even though I made a bunch of mistakes, I learnt heaps from doing it, and it was a brilliant smoke (a bit to much sativa for me but still great).
smoking_hills9
smoking_hills9week 13
Wow๐Ÿ˜ฒ Amazing results. ๐Ÿ‘
ProfessorSkiSlopes
ProfessorSkiSlopes
@smoking_hills9, Thank you very much! I'm pretty sure I could get the yield up by another 30% with a more experienced grow. This grow was my first and had a few catastrophes. I've learnt a bit from this and subsequent grows, and I have another 10 Gorilla Glue seeds that I will be using to test my hypothesis after I get another 2 or 3 grows under my belt.
ivik80
ivik80week 10
Another great week I see, they are looking really good mate! Not many weeks left I guess :)
ProfessorSkiSlopes
ProfessorSkiSlopes
@ivik80, Thank you :) Yep should only be 3 weeks or so to go now.. I'm really looking forward to seeing all the buds frost up!! I'm crossing my fingers for a 16oz harvest, but I'm estimating anywhere from 12-18 at this stage.. but I guess we will see... hopefully I can still break the 1g/w level with this (anything but perfect) grow!
GreenHouseLab
GreenHouseLabweek 10
GG always produces monster colas!!! It's evident here...
ProfessorSkiSlopes
ProfessorSkiSlopes
@GreenHouseLab, It certainly does! I can see where is gets the name Gorilla... the shape of the plant almost looks like a gorilla with its arms up and flexed.. Can't wait to see these buds as they sticky up!
ivik80
ivik80week 5
Btw, I wrote a PM/chat to you earlier about the lights, did u see it?
ProfessorSkiSlopes
ProfessorSkiSlopes
@ivik80, Do you mean the comment on the VPD? Where do look for private messages?
Wilson_McNugget
Wilson_McNuggetweek 13
Nice grow Ski Slopes...I was taking a look at some of the winning diaries for newbie of the month...looks like you had a pretty nice result....
Auto_GrowZ
Auto_GrowZweek 9
Hey. Just curious.. at week 9 do you still have the hlg Qb's dimmed down to 50% ?
ProfessorSkiSlopes
ProfessorSkiSlopesweek 9
Hi there. The lights are at full 480w now, I started transitioning them around week 3-4 and increased them to full over a period of around 4 weeks. Sorry I didn't make specific notes of when I increased the lights, and this grow had several issues which caused me to slow down the light increase, but if you check my new diary Zkittles, I'm just beginning the increase from 240w at week 3 and I will be taking more detailed notes of exactly when I increase the intensity. Basically the aim is to slowly increase it as the mass of plant material increases and as they increase in height so that they are always getting basically as muc as they can handle without stressing... I'm still working out exactly when to do it, and will be letting the plants guide me.