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ProfessorSkiSlopes ProfessorSkiSlopes
6 years ago
WEEK 10 Day 65 - Today I flushed the plants with a drenching to 20% run-off of 2.25ml/L of FloraKleen added to PH'ed tap water (PH 6.3). This product is designed to release any nutrient build-up in the coco, and hopefully will reset the pots so I can give them a fresh start nutrient-wise. I gave each pot about 4.2L of solution each, with about 1L of run-off from each pot. The PPM of the FloraKleen solution was 250ppm (which is the PPM of the tap water, so it appears FloraKleen doesn't have any salts in it). The PPM of the run-off was around 650-750. I'm going to leave them for a day or two, and then give them a 75% strength feed and see how they go. They've been getting a bit light in colour lately, so I'm not sure if I've been underfeeding them. The run-off PPM has been increasing by 200 per feed for the last several feeds. That's even after dropping the nutrient strength from 75% to 50%. I'm a bit confused, because the plants seem to be behaving like they aren't getting enough food, yet the run-off PPM levels seem to suggest they aren't consuming all they are getting. At the moment I'm pretty much guessing as I go along. Given the plants have only got another 3 weeks or so to go before harvest, I'd like to make sure they have enough energy to pump up their buds before they are harvested. I guess we will see if a 75% feed after this flush is too much or just right after its done. I wรฉnt through the plants after the flush and gave them a solid defoliating and removed most of the sugar leaves, this has left pretty much all the bud-sites exposed to light now, and the tent looks great as all the buds are visible now and I have to say, despite the fact the plants aren't anywhere near the weight and size they could have been, it is still a gorgeous sight to behold. Day 66 - The plants seem to have responded well to the flush. I think I will feed them a 75% strength feed tomorrow. Day 67 - My wattage meters arrived today. They are fantastic and they were extremely simple to install as they are just placed inline, in between the main power cable and the light. I can now see the wattage the light is running at without having to reference the wattage meter I have on the main power supply to both tents. It also looks cool. You can see it in the group shot from day 68. Given the low cost of these meters I'm surprising they aren't more common and that HLG don't build them into their branded lights. It should be on the list for every QB user I think! (they cost $7 USD each on eBay, from china). Day 68 - Fed the plants with a 50% strength solution. Feed them 3.8L each. They had about 10-20% run-off. Solution had a PH of 6.3 and a PPM of 846 (EC 1.68) The run-off had a PPM of 1050. I also lowered the lights by 5cm to a height of 45cm above the canopy. After doing some more research about how/when to feed plants when using coco I've decided to switch from watering based on a wet/dry cycle (that typically saw me watering every three days) to a daily watering schedule. I will still water to 20% run-off. The research I did last time seemed to suggest periodic watering was best, but after this latest research I found many people water daily. This seems like it would have a lot of advantages, including being able to track the run-off PPM levels each day. This should allow me to dial in the nutrient levels much better, and should stop nutrient concentration level swings in the pots that must be occurring during the wet/dry cycle. I wish the advice out there was more consistent LOL. I'm also switch my Zkittles grow to daily waterings. Day 69 - Fed with 50% strength nutrient solution. Ph=6.1 PPM=780 EC=1.6 Temp=12c Volume given 15L. Runoff PPM=860, EC = 1.6 Volume runoff = 7.5L - Total amount fed to each plant is 930ml. Runoff per plant = 930ml per plant. Day 70 - No feed. End of week 10!
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Grow Questions
ProfessorSkiSlopes
ProfessorSkiSlopesstarted grow question 6 years ago
Hi there, does anyone have any idea what the slight mottling is on the leaves of two of my plants. There are close-up pictures under Day 27 in Week 4. The discolouration is present across multiple leaves, but seems to only be happening to two plants out of 8. Thanks!
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skybound
skyboundanswered grow question 6 years ago
I suspect the mottling is a combo deficiency between Ca and K, though I'd go so far as to say that both look minor so maybe not try to fix either. If you're using nutrient salts you can isolate a specific element to tweak, but most nute brands have multiple things mixed in the bottles so if you tweak any thing, you end up tweaking several things which will cause other problems. If interested, I made a tutorial for using Hydro Buddy to reverse engineer your nutrients, then you would be able to play around with tweaking the nutes in theory before actually changing anything in practice. https://www.420magazine.com/community/threads/making-your-own-nutrient-concentrates.455187/
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Fast_Buds
Fast_Budscommentedweek 16 years ago
What a great looking diary so far! Thanks for growing faster with us, let us know if you need anything ๐Ÿ’š
Fast_Buds
Fast_Budscommented6 years ago
@ProfessorSkiSlopes, I'm sure you can! Our genetics are in good hands=)
ProfessorSkiSlopes
ProfessorSkiSlopescommented6 years ago
Thank you @Fast_Buds! I hope I can do your fine genetics justice.
ProfessorSkiSlopes
ProfessorSkiSlopescommentedweek 135 years ago
Come over tomorrow hehehe I'll roll a few fatties for you, and even make you a coffee *grin*
Puffer_Bill
Puffer_Billcommentedweek 96 years ago
Looking very buddy in your camp.๐Ÿ‘Š๐Ÿผ๐Ÿ˜Ž๐Ÿ‘Š๐Ÿผ
Puffer_Bill
Puffer_Billcommented6 years ago
@ProfessorSkiSlopes, Definitely an exciting time now. ๐Ÿ‘Š๐Ÿผ๐Ÿ˜Ž๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿผ
ProfessorSkiSlopes
ProfessorSkiSlopescommented6 years ago
@Puffer_Bill, Thank you! It really is starting to look great now when I open the tent. It's amazing how fast the plants go into flower and suddenly there are buds everywhere! The next 3 or so weeks are going to be really fun to watch them thicken out!
ivik80
ivik80commentedweek 86 years ago
Looking good mate! Glad to see you have dialed in the MG issues, good idea to take the ph up a bit so MG will be taken care of easier. I always have different PH on each feeding just to be sure all nutes will be taken up during a 1 week period at least. I try to keep it around 6.5 but I play around that. Once perhaps 6.3, next 6.5, then 6,7 and then back to 6.3 or 6.5 and so on... I try to at least never feed same ph after each other.
ivik80
ivik80commented6 years ago
@ProfessorSkiSlopes, No idea, I use organics so I cannot even look at PPM or EC. I never heard of anyone being able to do that but it seems like something really good if it is possible?
ProfessorSkiSlopes
ProfessorSkiSlopescommented6 years ago
@ivik80, That's a great idea. I've decided to the same myself, and will look to bounce the PH between 6.0 and 6.5 over each week, and then drop in a 5.8 or 6.7 a couple times a month.. I'll fine tune it as I go. I was aiming for 6.1 on every watering, and I think it was causing some issues with micronutrient uptake. It would be great to be able to get the run-off analysed and be able to see exactly how much of each nutrient they are consuming... I wonder if there are any test-kits or similar out there to do this.. hmmm.
Fast_Buds
Fast_Budscommentedweek 76 years ago
Hey there! You're babies are looking just fine. Great work, I'm sure you are learning a lot with this hehe. Trial and error is always the best way to gain knowledge. Well done. I'm sure things will be a bit easier from here on out ๐Ÿ™Œ๐Ÿผ
Fast_Buds
Fast_Budscommented6 years ago
@ProfessorSkiSlopes, No problem!! We're here if you need anything๐Ÿ™Œ๐Ÿผ
ProfessorSkiSlopes
ProfessorSkiSlopescommented6 years ago
@Fast_Buds, Cheers guys. The plants have come along way on the road to recovery in the last 3 days since I asked for your help.. So cross-fingers the grow is a easier from here on out, and that my mistakes so far will still allow for a reasonable yield. The Gorilla Glue certainly can take a hard life and bounce back that's for sure. Thank you for taking the time to check this diary for me.
Puffer_Bill
Puffer_Billcommentedweek 66 years ago
Yours are looking good. ๐Ÿ˜Ž๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿผ ( not sure about the leaf droop ) My first grow was GG4. It was quite resilient. From 4 plants I got over 16oz. Not including the buds I nibbled along the way. I over vegged them so ended up super cropping bending breaking etc... they took all the stress I gave them.
ProfessorSkiSlopes
ProfessorSkiSlopescommented6 years ago
@Puffer_Bill, Cheers for the comment :) The plants have been looking great until this wilt thing. I've built a frame for the quantum boards that spreads them apart using the same dimensions as the original HLG-550 which should give better light distribution, and I'm going to try dropping an hour or so from the light cycle to try and mitigate the wilt. being autoflowers these guys have limited time to be at their optimum, and this wilt during the last 2-3 hours of the light cycle feels like it must be affecting end yield. I guess we will see!
ivik80
ivik80commentedweek 135 years ago
Nice harvest mate! So when should I come over and try out the new smoke? :D
ivik80
ivik80commentedweek 56 years ago
Hi Why do you want such a high leaf temp?
vito_f
vito_fcommented6 years ago
@ivik80, yes, check arduino or better yet get a nodemcu v2 and look at the blynk library and free iphone ios app. nodemcu is a very very small arduino-clone with builtin wifi (it costs about 2-5 โ‚ฌ/$). there are other multipurpose arduinos (clones) with wifi. blynk is a framework you can easily add to your sketch. blynk /arduino then connects to either a free cloud server hosted with them or (as i did, as a docker container in parallel to an openvpn server on a NAS) you can run it locally on a small server, so everything stays private. What is nice, the server feeds your arduino the current time now, also it can collect all kind of sensor data in your growroom. You can then build a dashboard app, all kinds of graphs easily in a matter of minutes and program your own light scheduler. it is amazingly awesome. ALso cool: once everything is installed you can update your sketches via wifi, feed videos or webcam shots of your growroom into the app, override the light status in your app, emergency heat shut down, push notifications, all kind of stuff. its nerdy AF, but also a very fun tech project if you're savvy. you can even let the units talk to each other, which i have not tried, build individual humidity/temp-nodes per tent or pot. adding or simulating a potentiometer would be a step depending on your tech setup then.
ivik80
ivik80commented6 years ago
@ProfessorSkiSlopes, Ah man that sounds really nice, seems to be a lot of different fun stuff one could do with it. Like the weight of pot idea for watering! Ok then, I'll wait for you to make it all work and then you can show me what to buy and send over some scripts :) I'll copy/paste whatever u get going :D
ProfessorSkiSlopes
ProfessorSkiSlopescommented6 years ago
@ivik80, It really is! I did a quick scan and there are already a couple of sunset/sunrise sketches out there, but the more I think about it, the more I think this is definitely a worthwhile project to investigate. Everything could be controlled from the potentiometer interface, and it would just need some sort of clock shield for the arduino, and it could manage the intensity of the light 24/7 - it would be good to have an LCD shield as well so it could display things like the time, and the intensity, so it could be spot checked in the tent. Having it do datalogging back to a PC or SD card would be good as well. Then the next step would be to interface it with the ventilation and circulation fans, and any cooling/heating equipment, along with any humidifying/dehumidifying gear. One could even implement moisture meters in all the pots, or even pressure sensors under the pots to watch weight, and it could then alert when watering/feeding was needed/optimal.. its all a very exciting field for future improvements to indoor operations that's for sure! - The great thing is that there is already a lot of work out there in this direction with Arduino, so its not even like it would have to be done from scratch. I look forward to investigating it once I have a few more harvests under my belt, and I have the practical experience to implement something more advanced than manual/thermostat/humidistat control.
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Cheezy
Cheezycommentedweek 135 years ago
What a beautiful harvest! Congrats!
Cheezy
Cheezycommented5 years ago
@ProfessorSkiSlopes, there is so much to be learnt by the experience of growing! There's already so much I would do different next time and I'm not even half way through my first grow :P I'm looking forward to seeing how what you've learned benefits you in your next grow!
ProfessorSkiSlopes
ProfessorSkiSlopescommented5 years ago
@Cheezy, Thank you very much! :) I really enjoyed growing these plants even though I made a bunch of mistakes, I learnt heaps from doing it, and it was a brilliant smoke (a bit to much sativa for me but still great).
smoking_hills9
smoking_hills9commentedweek 135 years ago
Wow๐Ÿ˜ฒ Amazing results. ๐Ÿ‘
ProfessorSkiSlopes
ProfessorSkiSlopescommented5 years ago
@smoking_hills9, Thank you very much! I'm pretty sure I could get the yield up by another 30% with a more experienced grow. This grow was my first and had a few catastrophes. I've learnt a bit from this and subsequent grows, and I have another 10 Gorilla Glue seeds that I will be using to test my hypothesis after I get another 2 or 3 grows under my belt.
ivik80
ivik80commentedweek 106 years ago
Another great week I see, they are looking really good mate! Not many weeks left I guess :)
ProfessorSkiSlopes
ProfessorSkiSlopescommented6 years ago
@ivik80, Thank you :) Yep should only be 3 weeks or so to go now.. I'm really looking forward to seeing all the buds frost up!! I'm crossing my fingers for a 16oz harvest, but I'm estimating anywhere from 12-18 at this stage.. but I guess we will see... hopefully I can still break the 1g/w level with this (anything but perfect) grow!
GreenHouseLab
GreenHouseLabcommentedweek 106 years ago
GG always produces monster colas!!! It's evident here...
ProfessorSkiSlopes
ProfessorSkiSlopescommented6 years ago
@GreenHouseLab, It certainly does! I can see where is gets the name Gorilla... the shape of the plant almost looks like a gorilla with its arms up and flexed.. Can't wait to see these buds as they sticky up!
ivik80
ivik80commentedweek 56 years ago
Btw, I wrote a PM/chat to you earlier about the lights, did u see it?
ProfessorSkiSlopes
ProfessorSkiSlopescommented6 years ago
@ivik80, Do you mean the comment on the VPD? Where do look for private messages?
Wilson_McNugget
Wilson_McNuggetcommentedweek 135 years ago
Nice grow Ski Slopes...I was taking a look at some of the winning diaries for newbie of the month...looks like you had a pretty nice result....
Auto_GrowZ
Auto_GrowZcommentedweek 96 years ago
Hey. Just curious.. at week 9 do you still have the hlg Qb's dimmed down to 50% ?
ProfessorSkiSlopes
ProfessorSkiSlopescommentedweek 96 years ago
Hi there. The lights are at full 480w now, I started transitioning them around week 3-4 and increased them to full over a period of around 4 weeks. Sorry I didn't make specific notes of when I increased the lights, and this grow had several issues which caused me to slow down the light increase, but if you check my new diary Zkittles, I'm just beginning the increase from 240w at week 3 and I will be taking more detailed notes of exactly when I increase the intensity. Basically the aim is to slowly increase it as the mass of plant material increases and as they increase in height so that they are always getting basically as muc as they can handle without stressing... I'm still working out exactly when to do it, and will be letting the plants guide me.