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ProfessorSkiSlopes ProfessorSkiSlopes
5 years ago
With the lighting height and intensity optimised I started closing up the tent and letting its air entirely depend entirely on the ducting system I had created. They then started to show signs of some struggling and even wilting. In the end I isolated the cause was to much humid air and lack of air replacement (I was trying to vent two tents via a booster fan ducting connection and a single carbon filter venting to the roof space). I could see that this air system was just not cutting it, and despite not wanting to invest more, the advantages of having each tent equipped with its own 4"carbon filer and 200m3 centrifugal fan were instantly obvious after setting it up on this tent. Ultimately I realised that setting each tent up with its own ventilation was the unavoidable choice for ongoing optimal growth and achieving the highest quality and quantity yield. My infrared temperature gun is showing the leaf temp to be around 23c during lights on cycle. Ideally I want this up around 27-29c (apparently HIDs put out a lot of heat and infrared which like the Sun, raises the leaf temp up the range required by the plants for the photosynthesis processes to operate optimally. With cooler LED lights, other options can become a requirement in order to bring the leaf temp up to that required for optimal photosynthesis Once I have the two tents fully operational I'm hoping that will give a temp increase in the growroom that will lift the leaf temp. If it doesn't I will consider the option of venting back into the growroom to effectively create a recycling air system within the growroom and thereby the tents. If this still isn't enough eventually I may look at thermostat controlled heating in the grow room, however this would be an expensive cost so I will avoid it if at all possible via other means. From here on out my main focus will hopefully only really need to be on providing a good wet/dry cycle with optimal strength nutrient feedings, and occasional lower leaf and sugar leaf defoliating combined with some moderate (autoflower level) LST. Day 26 The plants suffered a dry-out of the coco. They got pretty wilty for several hours. I was not expecting the plants to have consumed so much in such a short time after there first water to run off (5 days) but this is my first time using coco with perlite, and the clay balls for drainage, so the pots feel a lot heavier when dry than my last grow, so I will be much more vigilent about feeding from now on! They're still recovering 48hours later, but they have maintained a pretty good growth rate despite the drought. Day 26 Feeding was Roots 1ml/l Greendream1 2ml/l CMX 0.3ml/l Grostorm 2.5ml/l Day 26 The ambient room temp has dropped enough now that I've temporarily brought in a heater to warm the tent. This is brought it up to an air temp around 28c during the light cycle. This is just the start of winter so I'll be probably changing the tent to vent back into the grow room instead of the ceiling space, and starting the second tent in the same room. This might necessitate a dehumidifier. The alternative is some sort of small heater in each tent I think. My only other grow was under a HID in summer and I spent the whole time fighting overheating. In comparison his situation is very much the opposite. Day 27 - Little bit of leaf tip burn - Last nutrient feed was likely a bit strong. Will not increase strength at next feed. Will flush if symptoms increase. End of week 4 summary - Tent is fully operational, circulation, ventilation, lighting are all great. Temp is going to need some work. I think I will put the extractor fan on humidity control to minimise heat lost to venting, and put in a small oil filled heater on temp control inside the tent. This avoids the need for recycling the air and subsequent dehumidification issues. I am also considering putting a 50w electric blanket under the tent. Media and pots are excellent, and nutrient levels have been good, with a slight overfeed on the last feed. Wet/Dry cycle is quicker than I expected at 5 days after first full feed, and I allowed a drought to happen. I will be much more vigilant over the media saturation from now on.
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ProfessorSkiSlopes
ProfessorSkiSlopesstarted grow question 5 years ago
Hi there, does anyone have any idea what the slight mottling is on the leaves of two of my plants. There are close-up pictures under Day 27 in Week 4. The discolouration is present across multiple leaves, but seems to only be happening to two plants out of 8. Thanks!
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skybound
skyboundanswered grow question 5 years ago
I suspect the mottling is a combo deficiency between Ca and K, though I'd go so far as to say that both look minor so maybe not try to fix either. If you're using nutrient salts you can isolate a specific element to tweak, but most nute brands have multiple things mixed in the bottles so if you tweak any thing, you end up tweaking several things which will cause other problems. If interested, I made a tutorial for using Hydro Buddy to reverse engineer your nutrients, then you would be able to play around with tweaking the nutes in theory before actually changing anything in practice. https://www.420magazine.com/community/threads/making-your-own-nutrient-concentrates.455187/
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Fast_Buds
Fast_Budsweek 1
What a great looking diary so far! Thanks for growing faster with us, let us know if you need anything πŸ’š
Fast_Buds
Fast_Buds
@ProfessorSkiSlopes, I'm sure you can! Our genetics are in good hands=)
ProfessorSkiSlopes
ProfessorSkiSlopes
Thank you @Fast_Buds! I hope I can do your fine genetics justice.
ProfessorSkiSlopes
ProfessorSkiSlopesweek 13
Come over tomorrow hehehe I'll roll a few fatties for you, and even make you a coffee *grin*
Puffer_Bill
Puffer_Billweek 9
Looking very buddy in your camp.πŸ‘ŠπŸΌπŸ˜ŽπŸ‘ŠπŸΌ
Puffer_Bill
Puffer_Bill
@ProfessorSkiSlopes, Definitely an exciting time now. πŸ‘ŠπŸΌπŸ˜ŽπŸ‘πŸΌ
ProfessorSkiSlopes
ProfessorSkiSlopes
@Puffer_Bill, Thank you! It really is starting to look great now when I open the tent. It's amazing how fast the plants go into flower and suddenly there are buds everywhere! The next 3 or so weeks are going to be really fun to watch them thicken out!
ivik80
ivik80week 8
Looking good mate! Glad to see you have dialed in the MG issues, good idea to take the ph up a bit so MG will be taken care of easier. I always have different PH on each feeding just to be sure all nutes will be taken up during a 1 week period at least. I try to keep it around 6.5 but I play around that. Once perhaps 6.3, next 6.5, then 6,7 and then back to 6.3 or 6.5 and so on... I try to at least never feed same ph after each other.
ivik80
ivik80
@ProfessorSkiSlopes, No idea, I use organics so I cannot even look at PPM or EC. I never heard of anyone being able to do that but it seems like something really good if it is possible?
ProfessorSkiSlopes
ProfessorSkiSlopes
@ivik80, That's a great idea. I've decided to the same myself, and will look to bounce the PH between 6.0 and 6.5 over each week, and then drop in a 5.8 or 6.7 a couple times a month.. I'll fine tune it as I go. I was aiming for 6.1 on every watering, and I think it was causing some issues with micronutrient uptake. It would be great to be able to get the run-off analysed and be able to see exactly how much of each nutrient they are consuming... I wonder if there are any test-kits or similar out there to do this.. hmmm.
Fast_Buds
Fast_Budsweek 7
Hey there! You're babies are looking just fine. Great work, I'm sure you are learning a lot with this hehe. Trial and error is always the best way to gain knowledge. Well done. I'm sure things will be a bit easier from here on out πŸ™ŒπŸΌ
Fast_Buds
Fast_Buds
@ProfessorSkiSlopes, No problem!! We're here if you need anythingπŸ™ŒπŸΌ
ProfessorSkiSlopes
ProfessorSkiSlopes
@Fast_Buds, Cheers guys. The plants have come along way on the road to recovery in the last 3 days since I asked for your help.. So cross-fingers the grow is a easier from here on out, and that my mistakes so far will still allow for a reasonable yield. The Gorilla Glue certainly can take a hard life and bounce back that's for sure. Thank you for taking the time to check this diary for me.
Puffer_Bill
Puffer_Billweek 6
Yours are looking good. πŸ˜ŽπŸ‘πŸΌ ( not sure about the leaf droop ) My first grow was GG4. It was quite resilient. From 4 plants I got over 16oz. Not including the buds I nibbled along the way. I over vegged them so ended up super cropping bending breaking etc... they took all the stress I gave them.
ProfessorSkiSlopes
ProfessorSkiSlopes
@Puffer_Bill, Cheers for the comment :) The plants have been looking great until this wilt thing. I've built a frame for the quantum boards that spreads them apart using the same dimensions as the original HLG-550 which should give better light distribution, and I'm going to try dropping an hour or so from the light cycle to try and mitigate the wilt. being autoflowers these guys have limited time to be at their optimum, and this wilt during the last 2-3 hours of the light cycle feels like it must be affecting end yield. I guess we will see!
ivik80
ivik80week 13
Nice harvest mate! So when should I come over and try out the new smoke? :D
ivik80
ivik80week 5
Hi Why do you want such a high leaf temp?
vito_f
vito_f
@ivik80, yes, check arduino or better yet get a nodemcu v2 and look at the blynk library and free iphone ios app. nodemcu is a very very small arduino-clone with builtin wifi (it costs about 2-5 €/$). there are other multipurpose arduinos (clones) with wifi. blynk is a framework you can easily add to your sketch. blynk /arduino then connects to either a free cloud server hosted with them or (as i did, as a docker container in parallel to an openvpn server on a NAS) you can run it locally on a small server, so everything stays private. What is nice, the server feeds your arduino the current time now, also it can collect all kind of sensor data in your growroom. You can then build a dashboard app, all kinds of graphs easily in a matter of minutes and program your own light scheduler. it is amazingly awesome. ALso cool: once everything is installed you can update your sketches via wifi, feed videos or webcam shots of your growroom into the app, override the light status in your app, emergency heat shut down, push notifications, all kind of stuff. its nerdy AF, but also a very fun tech project if you're savvy. you can even let the units talk to each other, which i have not tried, build individual humidity/temp-nodes per tent or pot. adding or simulating a potentiometer would be a step depending on your tech setup then.
ivik80
ivik80
@ProfessorSkiSlopes, Ah man that sounds really nice, seems to be a lot of different fun stuff one could do with it. Like the weight of pot idea for watering! Ok then, I'll wait for you to make it all work and then you can show me what to buy and send over some scripts :) I'll copy/paste whatever u get going :D
ProfessorSkiSlopes
ProfessorSkiSlopes
@ivik80, It really is! I did a quick scan and there are already a couple of sunset/sunrise sketches out there, but the more I think about it, the more I think this is definitely a worthwhile project to investigate. Everything could be controlled from the potentiometer interface, and it would just need some sort of clock shield for the arduino, and it could manage the intensity of the light 24/7 - it would be good to have an LCD shield as well so it could display things like the time, and the intensity, so it could be spot checked in the tent. Having it do datalogging back to a PC or SD card would be good as well. Then the next step would be to interface it with the ventilation and circulation fans, and any cooling/heating equipment, along with any humidifying/dehumidifying gear. One could even implement moisture meters in all the pots, or even pressure sensors under the pots to watch weight, and it could then alert when watering/feeding was needed/optimal.. its all a very exciting field for future improvements to indoor operations that's for sure! - The great thing is that there is already a lot of work out there in this direction with Arduino, so its not even like it would have to be done from scratch. I look forward to investigating it once I have a few more harvests under my belt, and I have the practical experience to implement something more advanced than manual/thermostat/humidistat control.
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Cheezy
Cheezyweek 13
What a beautiful harvest! Congrats!
Cheezy
Cheezy
@ProfessorSkiSlopes, there is so much to be learnt by the experience of growing! There's already so much I would do different next time and I'm not even half way through my first grow :P I'm looking forward to seeing how what you've learned benefits you in your next grow!
ProfessorSkiSlopes
ProfessorSkiSlopes
@Cheezy, Thank you very much! :) I really enjoyed growing these plants even though I made a bunch of mistakes, I learnt heaps from doing it, and it was a brilliant smoke (a bit to much sativa for me but still great).
smoking_hills9
smoking_hills9week 13
Wow😲 Amazing results. πŸ‘
ProfessorSkiSlopes
ProfessorSkiSlopes
@smoking_hills9, Thank you very much! I'm pretty sure I could get the yield up by another 30% with a more experienced grow. This grow was my first and had a few catastrophes. I've learnt a bit from this and subsequent grows, and I have another 10 Gorilla Glue seeds that I will be using to test my hypothesis after I get another 2 or 3 grows under my belt.
ivik80
ivik80week 10
Another great week I see, they are looking really good mate! Not many weeks left I guess :)
ProfessorSkiSlopes
ProfessorSkiSlopes
@ivik80, Thank you :) Yep should only be 3 weeks or so to go now.. I'm really looking forward to seeing all the buds frost up!! I'm crossing my fingers for a 16oz harvest, but I'm estimating anywhere from 12-18 at this stage.. but I guess we will see... hopefully I can still break the 1g/w level with this (anything but perfect) grow!
GreenHouseLab
GreenHouseLabweek 10
GG always produces monster colas!!! It's evident here...
ProfessorSkiSlopes
ProfessorSkiSlopes
@GreenHouseLab, It certainly does! I can see where is gets the name Gorilla... the shape of the plant almost looks like a gorilla with its arms up and flexed.. Can't wait to see these buds as they sticky up!
ivik80
ivik80week 5
Btw, I wrote a PM/chat to you earlier about the lights, did u see it?
ProfessorSkiSlopes
ProfessorSkiSlopes
@ivik80, Do you mean the comment on the VPD? Where do look for private messages?
Wilson_McNugget
Wilson_McNuggetweek 13
Nice grow Ski Slopes...I was taking a look at some of the winning diaries for newbie of the month...looks like you had a pretty nice result....
Auto_GrowZ
Auto_GrowZweek 9
Hey. Just curious.. at week 9 do you still have the hlg Qb's dimmed down to 50% ?
ProfessorSkiSlopes
ProfessorSkiSlopesweek 9
Hi there. The lights are at full 480w now, I started transitioning them around week 3-4 and increased them to full over a period of around 4 weeks. Sorry I didn't make specific notes of when I increased the lights, and this grow had several issues which caused me to slow down the light increase, but if you check my new diary Zkittles, I'm just beginning the increase from 240w at week 3 and I will be taking more detailed notes of exactly when I increase the intensity. Basically the aim is to slowly increase it as the mass of plant material increases and as they increase in height so that they are always getting basically as muc as they can handle without stressing... I'm still working out exactly when to do it, and will be letting the plants guide me.