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1st Grow Ever, Coco, 6 Autos, 6 Strains

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Current Feeding In addition to the above listed Micro, Grow, and Bloom, ML per gallon I add: 2.5 FloraMicro 2.5 FloraGrow 1.25 FloraBloom 2.5 CaliMagic (EDIT: Increased to full recommended dosage to avoid further Cal issues) 0.5 Armor SI 0.5 Floralicious 2.5 FloraBlend 2.5 SM-90 0.5 Roots Excelerator 0.5 Drip Clean 3 Photosynthesis Plus 2.5 Xnutrients Ful-Potential I have switched to white vinegar for PHing down. So far, so good. I will update the PPMs at next feeding as I forgot it from last time, lol. But they were in the safe range. I take them with just the Calimagic, Armor SI, and Micro, Grow, Bloom trio. I would prefer to get the PPM for just the trio, but GH advises to add the CaliMag and Armor SI prior to the trio. I also get the PPM with the additives, and was surprised at how little PPM they actually add. EDIT: ppms Base Tap Water ppm: 199 EC: 0.398 Trio Nutes, CaliMagic, and Armor SI ppm: 616 EC:1.232 Full Nute and Additive ppm: 740 EC: 1.48 Unadjusted PH 7.4 White vinegar adjusted to 5.81, approx 67ml for approx 8 gallons water. After an hour PH settled at 5.9 and I am ok with that. And there are the gory details of my late veg feeding. 7/28/17 All have been sexed, and it is good news (I assumed that ALL Autos would be females but wasn't sure). The stretch is on. The time lapse I posted last week includes up to today. You can see them really fill out the last 3 days. I had to raise the LEDs the last 3 nights. Considering feeding again tomorrow or Sunday. Most likely Sunday, but I am curious if I can push a little extra growth out of them before the real stuff starts. They are not as big as I would like, but the short internodes are very encouraging. My electric bill came in. Almost double last year. The AC doesn't shut off in this heat, nor does it reach the temperature that I set it at. It really can't. Fall photo crop will be much cheaper. Turned off the humidifier but I realized that the fabric pots and volume of wet coco makes it more humid than I realized. I might have to once again spend some money and grab a dehumidifier. The temps will be going up soon, according to the VPD chart, when they go into full flower, so it will not only be slightly cheaper on my power bill, but the humidity will naturally go down as the temps go up, making this a little early speculation. Still, I will need to find the sweet spot as far as temp and humidity to automate my settings. Right now , the in room AC by the tent is set to 68 and the houses central AC is set to 70. It doesn't get below 76 on a hot day in the main area. If you have watched the time lapse video, you have seem my thermometer. I can look at live video of the garden during lights on, at anytime, from anywhere. Today, I went to check it and I couldn't see it because of growth. It is on last weeks time lapse. You will notice it moves to the forefront. I like that kind of surprise! 7/29/17 I started to LST Speed Bud #2 and #3 with the intention of doing everything, but I chickened out after those 2. They are all just so happy, and I don't want to mess it up AND I want to see what it naturally looks like. I know my yield will further suffer, but this is school as far as I am concerned. The money I spent tuition. Right now I am pondering the following for my next grow, my photo grow. It will be a Sativa load. Anyone with any experience growing any of these strains, please offer me as much advice as you can stand to give. I know they can be hard to handle, so I want to go in with a sound strategy before sowing. 4 Durban Poison, 2 Amnesia Haze, and 2 Gypsy Haze I considered Neville's Haze, but if I can't LST an Autoflower, I don't think I am ready for something that takes like 4 months and must be controlled by 10 or 11 hours on light cycle for flower, flowering at 8 inches of height, and growing it in a dixie cup. Then it will only get 45 feet tall. Obviously I am exaggerating a bit, but read some grow diaries of people with good intentions, nice nice setups, and strong desire to grow this plant only to have the plant overcome them and run out of control at at which point most journals end with a final post from the OP saying something like "wow, this thing is growing fast" or "how much more can it grow?" The other sativas sound much more manageable for someone of my limited experience. Provided this current grow is successful, I will have plenty of Indica, so all sativa sounds reasonable since I am primarily growing period because of Durban Poison. Still a long way to go until this first grow is completed. I am definitely going to feed them tomorrow. Will likely hit them a bit harder with the CaliMagic. Minimum 20 ml per 8 gallons. I think I did myself a disservice getting the Hardwater Micro. At around 150-225 variance ppm, my water is not that hard. I need to ask my water district the calcium content of the water. Everything I read about calcium deficiency in coco tells me to go hard with CaliMagic. My 1st hand experience backs up the need. When it hit, it hit HARD. One of the perceived disadvantages of growing so many strains at the same time is the individual attention many strains need and differences in grow cycle. I might counter that my more sensitive strains (I am looking at you, KUSH), might be a REALLY good early indicator to protect the entire crop; a canary in the coal mine to conditions that would hurt the entire crop if left unchecked. We will of course wait for my yield to determine if my theory is correct, but it works for me right now. Let the facts guide 7/30/17 Doing feeding I decided instead of a water flush which I was apprehensive about, I would do a detailed ppm test in runoff. If its anywhere to about 900 ppm (200 or so higher than I put in) is fine, anything higher gets more feed until runoff is where expected. Of my first 5, runoff was normal in 3 of the 5 (Seemango, Auto Speed Bud #3, and NLxBB). Speed bud #2 was over 1000 ppm, so it got additional feed until 900's. Now here is where it gets odd. The first traces of runoff was in the 500s, BELOW what I was putting in, in Auto Speed Bud #1, the largest plant by far.. It ended up stable in the 900s as expected with a PH of 6.31, but how on earth could the ppm LOWER immediately? Coco is cool stuff. Mixing up the next 8 gallons of nutes for the other ladies. All the other plants runoff was normal. The Kush is my sensitive plant, shows me things before the rest do. She REALLY enjoyed todays feeding, She is sticking straight up. I have never seen joy from a plant before, but I think I just might have. Also, the humidity in my house and the tent spiked during feeding. 70% in my house and 81 in the tent. I am definitely going to need to get a dehumidifier and soon by the time the flowers show up. I didn't realize the added heat and humidity of a canopy. The old learning curve. Well, I added a fan to the far end of the tent for more breeze in a thick canopy from the other end and cooling and it will be seen on the time lapse from now on. It was too powerful even on slow speed to aim directly at the plants, so comically I have it oscillating off of walls and such for air turbulence. The plants LOVE the feeding. It is very obvious. The humidity is ridiculous tho. And it takes me over 2 hours to feed them, what with mixing, letting things stabilize after PHing, feeding, testing, and vacuuming runoff. I may adopt an every other day feeding schedule, and only do 5 at a time. I can only mix 8 gallons of nutes at a time, and with generous runoff, those 8 gallons are pretty much perfect for 5 plants. So, if I stagger and do 5 a day, it theoretically should help with the humidity and spread some of the labor out a bit and take advantage of the hydroponic benefit of coco. It should actually take less time than it would if I did all 10. I might skip a day and feed 5 of them on Tuesday and the other 5 wednesday and see how that goes. I love how this site randomly adjusts my nute levels to ridiculous amounts. If you see me adding 2400 ml of grow during flower, just know the site is continuing to randomly change my values. But don't worry people, I have strength of character. I will NOT lose my values, or let my values slide. On principle. Ok, this is getting as silly as some of the nutrient levels it says I am providing. I will long form my nutrients in the journal text per week from now on. The side of one of the fabric pots cleanly separated from a moist chunk of coco, so I took the opportunity to check if maybe i could see a root or 2 coming out of the coco. :D It looked like a white bristled brush. The roots are all over and air pruned to the walls of the 7 gallon pot. I guess between their reaction to feeding this morning and this newly discovered evidence of vigorous root growth (my gamble may have paid off), this mark the official end of wet/dry cycling these plants and the start of a more saturated future. 7/31/17 I have raised the lights up twice in the last 24 hours. i may try to push them and do a full strength feeding and see if i can push her a little, or i might chicken out. They eat at lights on tomorrow, well, 5 of them, to start the new feeding rotation of every other day. I have to think about this. I know I haven't come close to burning them and don't want to start now, but I don't want them to go hungry, either. Any thoughts on this? On the down side, I went outside and said to myself "hey, someone around here is growing weed." i went to my exhaust and could detect a smell. To make sure, I burned some sage in the tent, made sure not to smell it burning, sealed the tent, and went to the exhaust only to heavily smell sage. Lesson learned, don't buy a carbon filter off E-bay. so thats $100 I wasn't planning to spend. And if I need a dehumidifier... blah 8/1/17 There are a couple chunks missing from a couple leaves. Pic posted. Any ideas what might be eating my plant? I apparently can't post more on this week. Sorry. Limits
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mulch
mulchweek 1
Thanks, I am actually on day 19 today. Been trying to decide where to do a journal. This place won. I got some cool stuff including the time lapse video that will start showing up in week 3.
Mr_Matics
Mr_Matics
@mulch, look forward to it πŸ‘ŒπŸ»
CANNASIM
CANNASIMweek 5
Girls are developing nicely! Well done! πŸ‘πŸ‘Š
mulch
mulchweek 2
@Mr_Matics, have you grown any of these strains yourself? At this point, Mango Cream, Seemango, and Reek'N are very far behind the rest. I am wondering if the heat is too much for them or they are longer to get moving than the other strains. Thanks! EDIT: never mind, at lights on they decided to sneak up and come to life overnight, it seems. All 3 of them a little behind but now hot on the trail.
Mr_Matics
Mr_Matics
@ennui,that's good 😊 I've grown barneys but heard good things about others. You've got a good set up and a good base to start so u don't need to worry to much have faith my friend πŸ‘ŒπŸ»πŸ‘
Mr_Positivo
Mr_Positivoweek 10
Fantastic grow! You have done extremely well for a first timer. Way better than me. ha ha.. If I was to make a suggestion, I would recommend you try a mono grow of your most successful strain next time. you will learn how to finesse the ripening process more easily . Right now your beautiful buds are showing wonderful trichome development but its not clear that your plant is going to mature correctly to deliver you optimal results because your nitrogen levels are still too high and I doubt these levels will be in range by the time your trics mature. Watch out for diminishing smell in your garden also, another sign you are over cooking things. Finishing perfectly is hard and most of us, myself included, are always working on its nuances. Either way, you have done well enough already to say you have knocked it out of the ball park. Congrats.
JUNGLE_B4RNS
JUNGLE_B4RNS
@Mr_Positivo,when I say push I mean to let them grow a few weeks more and to not harvest following breeders flowering period.
Mr_Positivo
Mr_Positivo
@JUNGLE_B4RNS, when you say push, what scale are we talking about? Up 20% lighting and nutes, or more? Thanks.
Mr_Positivo
Mr_Positivo
Not sure if I understand. Does the watts per sq' change for breeders, Barnes? Curious to know your thoughts. Interesting to hear about your super skunk. My Skunk Afghan cross (Green Crack) is running late, I believe, Hard to be sure because in the dark past I have erred on the side of running a strain too long and ending up with hay, Hopefully Mulch will not leave it that long. lol. I am running the exact same plant for a 2nd time now. Its structure and appearance is completely different this time because of change in nute schedule and lower lighting. I am hoping to be on schedule this time but based on what you are saying, I shouldn't be too optimistic.
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biggreens420
biggreens420week 13
Looking nice in here again not long left now?
biggreens420
biggreens420
@mulch,that's it mate don't rush it best of luck
mulch
mulch
@biggreens420, I wish i knew, lol. I am anxious for many reasons to get these ladies in jars, and oddly enough, getting high on them is the last of those. I am monitoring trichs, but they are still going. Buds keep leaning over which I assume means more weight, so if they have more in them, they have more in them. I would rather sooner as that is why I used Dry Koolbloom last week, but we don't seem to be there yet on their clock
Tryhard
Tryhardweek 11
what does your somango smell like have got one and curious and this is your first grow you smashed it bro they look awesome
Tryhard
Tryhard
@mulch,excellent have heard good things about the strain
mulch
mulch
@@Tryhard, ty!. All 6 smell at the moment so I am not quite sure in isolation what the Auto Seemango smells like. I did rub my finger up the stem toi check for you, and it was fruity. Good luck with your grow!
DabCrab
DabCrabweek 10
This grow looks beautiful mate. Fantastic job you have done here in this massive room you've made. I cannot wait to see more grows from you!!!! Keep it up :D
DabCrab
DabCrab
@mulch, Don't mention it buddy. It's always great to have more growers on this site who are about being friendly and helpful. I can't wait till you are the one giving kind words to future growers. Keep it up because you are well on your way :D
mulch
mulch
@DabCrab, thank you! Staying the course hoping to cruise to 1st harvest with no problems. Crossing my fingers. And I am ALSO looking forward to more grows from me! 😜 Thanks for the kind words!
GrowThings
GrowThingsweek 17
What was the trimmed dry weight?
mulch
mulch
@@GrowThings, i accidentally put my dry weight in the wet weight on this site, i just corrected that. i didnt weigh it before drying or trimming, so i got 280 grams dry trimmed, including popcorn but not sugar leaf.
ItsLegalInMyHouse
ItsLegalInMyHouseweek 17
For your first grow you really took on a challenge and really succeeded! Congrats! πŸ‘πŸ»πŸ˜„
mulch
mulch
@ItsLegalInMyHouse, thanks a lot. My 2nd grow didn't start as strong, so wish me luck on the finish. Also, the jars of weed in my cupboard are thanks enough, lolololol!
Kvothe
Kvotheweek 10
Dude! I am a victim of speed bud too! One of them was an auto and finished in time. Other one... Not so much. I couldn't kill him. Now she has her own tent. You can check out from my diaries she is huge but very troubled. ^^ happy growing
mulch
mulch
@growmcnoob,There is something wrong with that auto, I think. I had 3 Speed Buds and 2 didn't turn. They were certainly healthy and vigorous and the one who is growing at 20/4 has beautiful buds, nothing like yours tho!. Good luck, gonna keep an eye on your grow!
Dtrain
Dtrainweek 6
I've got a 4x8 tent with those same lights, 12 plants. I am also 6 weeks in. Don't have a diary going for this grow but excited to see how you do
mulch
mulch
@Dtrain, They are out of control. I am afraid I am going to have to get rid of 2 if it keeps up. I think the stretch is mostly over, but wow, I got very overwhelmed very fast. How did your stretch go and what size pots? Coco as well? Start a diary, brotha!
ChefDan420
ChefDan420week 17
Fatty timeπŸ•°οΈπŸ†’πŸ‘πŸΌ
LumberjackBuds
LumberjackBudsweek 17
Thanks for posting a time lapse mate, love watching em
Fun_Growin
Fun_Growinweek 16
For your first grow... you did GREAT!! Heck if you finish your first grow with 50% of your plants you did well 😝 But you did great happy for ya πŸ‘πŸ»
Bluesbreeder
Bluesbreederweek 13
nice looking garden man !! great job πŸ‘Š
Blablabla
Blablablaweek 13
You have some nice colas here... Great job!
Green_inda_scene
Green_inda_sceneweek 12
😯high carumba vey nice! I respect your hustle!
TheFairyBudMother
TheFairyBudMotherweek 11
Impressive!!!
biggreens420
biggreens420week 9
Awesome looking room great job nice looking buds good luck
simps
simpsweek 10
Holy balls what a nice sea of buds u have there nice grow man hell of a job πŸ‘πŸ‘πŸ‘