Everything went way too smoothly up until this point. Adding the dehumidifier was needed, but I did not realize how hot the vent would make the tent, which is one reason I decided to start the dry koolbloom, so that I could try to induce finish before the heat causes damage to the plants. It is ironic, the heat stayed the same even though it is not as ambient hot outside. I still prefer the results to bud rot or mold of any kind, so it is a "pick your poison" situation.
I started the new feeding on friday, 9/15
I followed GH instructions, but as per before, I kept the Cal-Magic higher for 3 days. It wasn't enough.
Aborted Feed
FloraMicro 2.5ml gal
FloraBloom 8ml gal
SM-90 2.5ml gal
Cannazym 2.5ml Gal
Ful-Potential 2.5ml gal
Dry Koolbloom 0.25 tsp gal
Floralicious Plus 1ml gal
CaliMagic 2.5ml gal
FloraNectar 5ml gal
Drip Clean 0.4ml gal
The burnt tips were expected. The insane tye dye Cal def on the buds was NOT expected. Leaves started turning all sorts of different colors, Now we are starting to foxtail as well and plants are too close the the lights for my comfort. so I lowered the Dry Koolbloom to half and increased cal magic and micro back up to "coco with LED" levels.
The new feeding on Monday 9/18/17 was:
FloraMicro 4ml gal
FloraBloom 8ml gal
SM-90 2.5ml gal
Cannazym 2.5ml Gal
Ful-Potential 2.5ml gal
Dry Koolbloom 0.125 tsp gal
Floralicious Plus 1ml gal
CaliMagic 3.75ml gal
FloraNectar 5ml gal
Drip Clean 0.4ml gal
Examining the plants, and seeing Cal def, possible P def, and possible N def, I grew concerned over lockout. PH out was very close to what was put in, slightly higher as expected but the best of the grow by far.
EC of runof, however,f was higher than expected.
If it's a nutrient and not PH lockout, then i need to coco flush (50% nutes), which I did today, 9/19/17., with half strength nutes and full strength Cal-Magic.
The runoff was still pretty high in EC for some plants, but interestingly not for the plants with the more visible signs. I may do half strength again tomorrow and go back to the full amended feeding if they improve, or at least don't degrade further.
The frustrating part, is the Kush, my ridiculously huge yielder, still has a majority of white hair and is foxtailing on top of formed buds. Trics still say "not yet" for all plants. Even the couple that look like they could come out of a bag right now.
Everything went so smooth before, I was due to have my struggles due to inexperience. Here it is. Obviously, I am planning for next garden and I will vent the dehumidifiers exhaust to the main exhaust so the heat gets expelled from the tent. Actually, that won't work as that would bypass the carbon filter. I can't expel it out to the room because that is the air that goes back into the tent. Back to the drawing board.
Also, the bottom of the tent is a very cool 22 while the top of the tent is 28, so there is quite a variance of temp at different heights. That may be exploitable.
These problems are pretty much where inexperience came in during grow design. When they say beginners will only yield a fraction of a gram that experienced gardeners will, it is because of simple mistakes like this that I will have learned by the end of the grow, but may effect my yield. I am no longer worried about yield, I want it to smoke and taste good and have degood potency.
WARNING: If you run coco and LEDs and don't use coco specific nutes, you are going to need to add a lot of calmag. You will likely need to supplement even if using coco nutes, imho. Way more than you think. This is like my 4th bout of it, and everytime I try to drop it, I get it again. I hope it wont effect the taste running calmag for so long
9/20/17 I think it is light burn, along with the cal def and nute burn. Nothing more. I am going to 50% coco flush for another day as a couple plants didnt seem to lower in ec even with 2 days of 50% feeding. Unexpected, but the plants still seem to want to get closer to that light, despite the harm it may be causing them. I have no where else for my lights to go. Super cropping is the only real solution at this point and i REALLY dont want to do that on my 1st grow when so many buds need support vertically as it is.
Anyway, I am going to do no Humic/Fulvic besides floralicious, tomorrow, as I just ran out of Ful-Potential and it is being replaced by Ful-Power so I figured, why not give them a day between the 2? Besides, the people who are into Ful-Power are almost cult like in their alleigence to the product, much like those who use coco, or sm-90, or Roots Excelerator. Then I think, I am not in many clubs, and the people who are that determined also show pics of whiffle ball bat sized buds. So, I decided being in a cult is not the worst thing as long as no one is harmed and there are whiffle ball bat sized buds involved
I am learning a ton, and while I knew more nutes wasnt always better, I am seeing why bigger isnt better all the time either.
Thanks, I am actually on day 19 today. Been trying to decide where to do a journal. This place won. I got some cool stuff including the time lapse video that will start showing up in week 3.
@Mr_Matics, have you grown any of these strains yourself? At this point, Mango Cream, Seemango, and Reek'N are very far behind the rest. I am wondering if the heat is too much for them or they are longer to get moving than the other strains. Thanks!
EDIT: never mind, at lights on they decided to sneak up and come to life overnight, it seems. All 3 of them a little behind but now hot on the trail.
@ennui,that's good π I've grown barneys but heard good things about others. You've got a good set up and a good base to start so u don't need to worry to much have faith my friend ππ»π
Fantastic grow! You have done extremely well for a first timer. Way better than me. ha ha.. If I was to make a suggestion, I would recommend you try a mono grow of your most successful strain next time. you will learn how to finesse the ripening process more easily . Right now your beautiful buds are showing wonderful trichome development but its not clear that your plant is going to mature correctly to deliver you optimal results because your nitrogen levels are still too high and I doubt these levels will be in range by the time your trics mature. Watch out for diminishing smell in your garden also, another sign you are over cooking things. Finishing perfectly is hard and most of us, myself included, are always working on its nuances. Either way, you have done well enough already to say you have knocked it out of the ball park. Congrats.
Not sure if I understand. Does the watts per sq' change for breeders, Barnes? Curious to know your thoughts.
Interesting to hear about your super skunk. My Skunk Afghan cross (Green Crack) is running late, I believe, Hard to be sure because in the dark past I have erred on the side of running a strain too long and ending up with hay, Hopefully Mulch will not leave it that long. lol. I am running the exact same plant for a 2nd time now. Its structure and appearance is completely different this time because of change in nute schedule and lower lighting. I am hoping to be on schedule this time but based on what you are saying, I shouldn't be too optimistic.
@biggreens420, I wish i knew, lol. I am anxious for many reasons to get these ladies in jars, and oddly enough, getting high on them is the last of those. I am monitoring trichs, but they are still going. Buds keep leaning over which I assume means more weight, so if they have more in them, they have more in them. I would rather sooner as that is why I used Dry Koolbloom last week, but we don't seem to be there yet on their clock
@@Tryhard, ty!. All 6 smell at the moment so I am not quite sure in isolation what the Auto Seemango smells like. I did rub my finger up the stem toi check for you, and it was fruity. Good luck with your grow!
This grow looks beautiful mate. Fantastic job you have done here in this massive room you've made.
I cannot wait to see more grows from you!!!!
Keep it up :D
@mulch, Don't mention it buddy. It's always great to have more growers on this site who are about being friendly and helpful. I can't wait till you are the one giving kind words to future growers. Keep it up because you are well on your way :D
@DabCrab, thank you!
Staying the course hoping to cruise to 1st harvest with no problems. Crossing my fingers.
And I am ALSO looking forward to more grows from me!
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Thanks for the kind words!
@@GrowThings, i accidentally put my dry weight in the wet weight on this site, i just corrected that. i didnt weigh it before drying or trimming, so i got 280 grams dry trimmed, including popcorn but not sugar leaf.
@ItsLegalInMyHouse, thanks a lot. My 2nd grow didn't start as strong, so wish me luck on the finish. Also, the jars of weed in my cupboard are thanks enough, lolololol!
Dude! I am a victim of speed bud too! One of them was an auto and finished in time. Other one... Not so much. I couldn't kill him. Now she has her own tent. You can check out from my diaries she is huge but very troubled. ^^ happy growing
@growmcnoob,There is something wrong with that auto, I think. I had 3 Speed Buds and 2 didn't turn. They were certainly healthy and vigorous and the one who is growing at 20/4 has beautiful buds, nothing like yours tho!. Good luck, gonna keep an eye on your grow!
@Dtrain, They are out of control. I am afraid I am going to have to get rid of 2 if it keeps up. I think the stretch is mostly over, but wow, I got very overwhelmed very fast. How did your stretch go and what size pots? Coco as well?
Start a diary, brotha!
For your first grow... you did GREAT!! Heck if you finish your first grow with 50% of your plants you did well π
But you did great happy for ya ππ»