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The Garden 2026-2- HSC Vanilla Creme Pie

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3d ago
630 umol/s PAR Light Emitting Diodes/226W
DIY
1900 umol/s PAR Light Emitting Diodes/650W
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Vermiculite
Vermiculite
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Start at 2 Week
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Germination
21d ago
00110001001001111O -- Vanilla Creme Pie by Humboldt Seed Company Total days above ground: negative 2-4 days, lol Second cycle is starting with a 24 day overlap relative to a 9-week flower estimate for the first cycle. This gives ~3 days to sprout and then plenty of padding for their final pot-up into 5 gal pots at some point after 21 days above ground. Heat mat is set to 76F. Usually I warm it up before I plant them, but it slipped my mind. Initial soil temp is 60F. I doubt it delays anything, but less than idea all the same. The dome is only in use to prevent a need for irrigation between now and sprouting. Excessive humidity and restriction of gas exchange is not a benefit to seedlings. As they sprout, they will be removed from the dome. Will update this Germination week with pictures of sprouts before moving on. First vegetative week will be posted after 7 days above ground based on earliest sprout - ~10 days from now. Nearly lost a seed. It fell into an adjacent seedling pot during the process. It's damn hard trying to discern a seed from the perlite and vermiculite on the surface.
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Week 1. Vegetation
10d ago
16 hrs
Light Schedule
21 °C
Day Air Temp
6.0
pH
No Smell
Smell
650 PPM
TDS
40 %
Air Humidity
20 °C
Night Air Temp
45.72 cm
Lamp Distance
00110001001001111O Total days - 6 to 8 depending on seedling. In future weeks, this will be based on 'today' being day 7. It will make a difference early on but no discernable difference later on. Second batch of seeds with poor germination rates bought from Seeds Here Now. Is it a bad batch from Humboldt Seed Co? Is it poor stoage from the seed reselller, seeds here now? I have no idea, but very unhappy with my purchases. Their replacement policy is a scam, too. I had to pay more for an unwanted strain of seeds as a replacement. I only got a 33% germination rate and 1 of those grew upside down, which required a replant. I would wager SHN does not store their seeds in a professional manner. It's a WA company, so maybe they weren't controlling all that humidity? The medium and methods germinated 100% of everything esle. 20 other seeds were fine... 20 seeds from SHN/HSC were piss-poor over the last 2 grows. So, only 2 of 6 Vanilla Creme Pies. Not much else to say about them at this stage. I don't number them until final transplants. Pictures will not be in the exact same order like my other diaries have been. Little cold, a little dry... I need to fix this sooner than later. Climate is less than optimal. Humidifier is struggling to maintain 40% and is often less than that. The reusable wick is not as effective as the throw-away wicks, so i'll see if that helps. Second humidifier will be used in drying room, so I may just have to suffer through a less than ideal growth rate.
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Week 2. Vegetation
3d ago
16 hrs
Light Schedule
22 °C
Day Air Temp
6.0
pH
No Smell
Smell
650 PPM
TDS
55 %
Air Humidity
20 °C
Night Air Temp
45.72 cm
Lamp Distance
00110001001001111O Totdal days (avg): 14 Potted up to 1 gallon on day 13. Some plants were begging for it and a couple were lagging behind pace. Because of the excellent outcome in 2026-1, yield is irrelevant beyond principle. Only potted up 9 and a couple of those are on the smaller side. There are 2 factors related - RH% wasn't well-controlled the first few days and onyl 1 of 6 HSC seeds produced a viable plant.. possibly 2 if the other grows out of its mutation. So, cutting down to 8 plants will not be much of a decision in 10-12 days. Since production is irrelevant, I'll favor variety a bit more. Vanilla Creme Pie looks ... well, I have 2 live plants. One may have a deleterious mutation - time will tell. Both are exhibitng less than ideal growth rates, but no transplant shock for the 431st time, lol. Just kidding on the precise number but it's a fairly accurate estimate, too. Hopefully at least one of these is respectable by day 24-25. I'll take both to flower for variety, if possible. Again, a combination of inconsistent health and poor germination rates. I think this is both a SHN and HSC issue at this point. Twenty seeds of other breeders planted at the same time as 20 HSC seeds... Nonstop problems and failures from one and nothing but consistency from the other group. Two packs of 10 seeds is not a large enough sample to be confident, but I'll think twice before buying more. The 'replacement' Farmer's Daughter seeds will be used next year. Three 10-packs is also a small sample, but if those have poor results, I don't see any more reason to give them my money. Not much to type out. Things are boring. Temperatures are warmer under the FC4800, so that should help. Humidifier is keeping things 52-55% RH. 2026-1 harvests should be out of the way by the time these need to be potted up into 5 gallons. ----------------------------- Forgot to write out some goals for this grow in germination week: -Further streamline incorporation of 0-12-26 No-N Part A -Adjust 12-cola training -- Be more flexible about it. Some may be better off with 10 or 11 colas. There was enough room for 12 colas on the more ideally growing plants, but anything on the small side is better off with fewer. Most goals/changes from 2026-1 went well, so it's more a matter smoothing things out.
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Natrona
Natrona commentedweek 020d ago
True on appearance, however, I am good at finding the buried seed.
00110001001001111O
00110001001001111O commented20d ago
@Natrona, I had a snarky comment, but think I'm just going to play dumb on this one.
Natrona
Natrona commented20d ago
@00110001001001111O, yes, buried too deep, seed grew upside-down, dropped 2 in one hole.
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00110001001001111O commented20d ago
@Natrona, Hey, whatever it takes to get the job done, and all parties involved are satisfied.
GERGrowDesigns
GERGrowDesigns commentedweek 021d ago
Good Luck and Merry X-Mas ☃️⭐
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