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LED/480W
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LED/480W
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Indoor
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weeks 4, 6
Soil
Grow medium
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Week 12
Flowering
60.96
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Height
18 hrs
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Sublime374 Sublime374
4 years ago
Day 78 - I'm continuing to keep an eye on trichomes and water with 6.4-6.6 pH water as needed. I'm really surprised I'm not seeing any amber trichomes at all at this point. The buds on plant 1 are so dense I'm kind of worried about bud rot when drying. I've got the harvest tent ready to go at 65 degrees and 50% RH. When I think a plant is ready for harvest I'll give it 24 hours of dark before chopping. As far as my next grow, I decided I'm going to finish this one up and have a day where there's nothing going on in the grow tent so I can do things like wipe any and all dust off my light, fan/filter maintenance, clean up the tent floor, and all of that kind of stuff. I'm definitely going to pop my remaining 8 seeds I have of this strain for my next grow and see what I can do with those. I'm a little nervous about a few different things regarding this strain, mainly herms and keeping a close on twice as many plants as I did for this grow, but I want to try again and see how much I can improve. --- Day 79 - Breaking with tradition on pictures and putting up a couple of only trichomes. Just wanted to note that all plants are showing an amber trichome here and there about 36 hours after the last pictures were taken. I'm going to let the light run for one more "day", or about 17 hours, then all the plants are going into 24 hours of dark before getting cut down. --- Day 81 - Chopped down all three plants at about noon. I also forgot to take pictures as I went so I've only got a picture of the plants hanging. I took off a few of the biggest fan leaves but I think I'm going to have to take a branch off of plant 1. Two colas ended up growing kind of together and there's an area in between them that's all white (from no chlorophyll) that looks like prime real estate for mold. Otherwise I'm going to let them hang whole and dry like that for a few days until I can just pick off the major fan leaves. Then when the stems start to pop when they bend I'll jar things up and go from there. I've been curing my own stash for the last ~4 years so I actually have some confidence in that part. I'll update when things are dry and weighed out. --- Day 82 - I was getting nervous about plant 1 and bud rot so first thing this morning I went and took every cola off the plant. About 5 colas in I made the discovery that nobody wants to...bud rot. I think it's only showing up on this one bud, but I'm not sure if the white areas on other buds are the beginnings of mold or if it's just areas that lack chlorophyll. I posted some pictures to help identify. Update: I decided to wet trim plant 1 to help me keep an eye on any potential mold and to speed up the drying process. I figured it's a choice between buds that dried too quick and buds that turned moldy, so I'd rather have them dry too quick. I separated the buds into two groups, those with areas of white and those without. The white areas don't look like mold, but I don't want to take a chance. I trimmed the two groups separately and I'm also going to dry them separately. The group of buds with no white gets to dry in the tent and the buds with white are just going to sit out with lots of air exposure. I'd rather have nasty dry bud that is usable than moldy bud that isn't. Also, I just had to weigh the main cola and after trimming it was 76 grams wet. I'm glad there's more weight than I was expecting but now I'm pretty much freaking out about plants 2 and 3. Did plant 1 get moldy for the reason I suspect, because the buds were too dense and too close, or was it the conditions in the tent? I don't know for sure and I don't want to assume that the other plants are just going to be fine. I'm about five minutes from heading to the grow store, getting a hanging drying rack, and just wet trimming the entire harvest. Any advice is appreciated. --- Day 84 - No more mold has showed up. I broke every piece of bud off every stem with plant 1 just to get as much air as possible moving through the buds. It's going to look like crap in the jars, but it's not going to have mold on it :) I took every branch off of plants 2 and 3 that were touching another branch so there's no areas where buds are touching other buds. That white growth inside the buds that I was worried about (like in the picture that says "future bud rot?") actually turns green after it's been exposed to air for a little while. The one little part that turned brown/rusty was actually the top of one of the colas and I think it's actually light burn that turned that one little part brown. It's the only place on the entire plant that that brown material has showed up. I was worried I wouldn't be able to cure plant 1 but things are drying slowly even though I've got it all pulled apart. The smell that comes from the buds when you disturb them a little is pretty amazing and it makes me want to do everything I can to keep that smell. Speaking of smell, the grape smell from plant 2 is getting stronger and plant 3 now smells exactly like mashed garlic cauliflower. I was pretty hopeless a couple of days ago but now I feel optimistic that everything I have now will go into jars at some point. Next update will have weights and final results.
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Grow Questions
Sublime374
Sublime374started grow question 5 years ago
Is the white stuff in the pictures mildew? If it is, what should I do to sanitize my tent?
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Wicked_Stix
Wicked_Stixanswered grow question 5 years ago
Hard to see from the picture but if your fliter was there then it is probably dust. It is always a good idea to keep your tent disinfected anyway though. You can wipe everything down with clorox wipes to disinfect it.
Sublime374
Sublime374started grow question 5 years ago
Does the issue on the leaves look like a magnesium deficiency, or something else? On plant 1, the worst looking leaves are crispy and seem thicker than other leaves, but the set of leaves below that one is still green and soft, and in shade.
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Philindicus
Philindicusanswered grow question 5 years ago
Looks like the beginning of a magnesium deficiency. With my autos I usually start giving cal/mag week 4 at 0.5 ml per liter. It usually works out fine. Your lights are very strong so adding in the cal/mag helps them deal with light stress better . Hard to tell in your photos but your pots look pretty dry make sure you are giving them enough water and nutrients. They are large enough to give them a good watering but don't soak the whole pot. Start a nice wet dry watering cycle on her letting her dry out a bit between waterings. It will force the roots to grow deeper in the pot looking for moisture. Also if possible try to lower you ph to 5.8 to 6.2 which would be ideal for the best nutrient absorption. Up to 6.5 ph is acceptable for soil. If the magnesium issue starts to present itself on new leaves You can use 1/4 teaspoon of Epsom salt (Magnesium Sulfate) in 1 quart of water and use it as a fine spray solution once a week. Be sure to get under the leaves. Also try to spray at lights out to avoid burn spots on your leaves or early morning before the lights come on then leave a fan blowing on the plant until it drys then it can handle the light. The existing deficiency on the leaf may not improve or change go by the newer leaf growth. Good luck👌
Sublime374
Sublime374started grow question 4 years ago
Can I salvage any of the buds from a plant with bud rot? I'm not seeing any actual fuzz anywhere on the plant besides where I took that picture, could I throw out that bud and keep the rest? Should I take everything from that plant out of the dry tent so it doesn't spread?
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MarcXL
MarcXLanswered grow question 4 years ago
You should definitely put that bud and the buds next to it out of the tent but be careful not to shake that bud to prevent massive spore release. Take some time and carefully watch all the other buds for signs of mould and do this daily. I would advise to dismantle the bigger buds to prevent more mould and dry them on a rack. Thats one of the options you have to make sure enough air can flow around those big dense buds. Better dismantle before risking more mould and a bigger loss.
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Mrs_Larimar
Mrs_Larimarweek 12
Just cut the bud with the rot generously, and check the other plants often, b4cause this Girls grow very dense and its hard to discover rot... if you see wilting sugarleaves is a sign for something going on
Mrs_Larimar
Mrs_Larimar
@@Sublime374,well done.... hope its only the one part that you throw away
Sublime374
Sublime374
@Mrs_Larimar, Thanks. I kind of opened up every part of the bud with mold and deep inside it was getting fuzzy all over so I threw out the entire bud. I washed my hands in between touching buds I thought might have mold and anything else. The weird thing is with the white areas on the buds is that I'm pretty sure it's just "albino" plant material that never got any light because it's not fuzzy with anything but trichomes as far as I can tell. I'm going to let the buds with the white areas just dry in their own corner of the house and see if those areas turn into mold.
Philindicus
Philindicusweek 4
Hope my answer to your grow question helped you out. Feel free to message me anytime. Look forward to following your grow.👍
Philindicus
Philindicus
@@Sublime374, I've seen a lot of great grows using the GH Flora line up. With the LED if your going to to do a lot of growing you may want to think about getting a good PPF/PAR meter to measure the intensity of your lights at different distances. Their not cheap but they take away the guess work.
Sublime374
Sublime374
@Philindicus, Thanks, I appreciate it. I looked around at some other reviews of the light I'm using and some seasoned growers have suggested increasing cal/mag when using it. I had an overwatering problem in the beginning and now I'm watering about every four days but I've got a fan blowing on the pots so the top dries out quickly because I've had some fungus gnats. Next time I water I'll just do 2ml of cal/mag in a gallon of 6.2 water. New growth looks healthy and happy but I want to keep it that way.
Philindicus
Philindicusweek 9
I would try to treat each plant indiviually. They may have different feeding and watering schedules. Personally on my current grow I went from growing 4 plants to 7 plants and lost track of who got what. They were all drinking at different rates. I discovered I forgot to feed one plant. Which caused an issue.Now I write everything down. For some reason in my mind I expected to water and feed them all at once. Not the case.
Sublime374
Sublime374
@Philindicus, Thanks. I've got a whiteboard in the grow room that helps me keep track of watering and feeding. Each plant is getting slightly different nutes at this point and I water them when they start to look thirsty. I watch the big fan leaves to know if they're thirsty. Last time I watered they all just happened to get thirsty on the same day, except 4. I'll give plant 4 about a liter of water when I do water it. It's yellowing so fast I'm really giving up on it, but that's ok, because I'm starting my next seeds in about a week and I'll need the space.
MaxwellSH
MaxwellSHweek 12
Awesome buds Mate👍
ElChicoDelaWeed
ElChicoDelaWeedweek 10
big :)
Inquisitor
Inquisitorweek 11
Holy Crap Dude!!! Looking good haha. They look like they are going to be very nice when they are done... consider me sub'd with a chair and popcorn. 👌
Sublime374
Sublime374week 1
Thanks GreenMachine, I posted a clearer picture. I'll give it a wipe down tomorrow with some clorox just to be safe.
Lancemosh
Lancemosh
@@Sublime374,I cannot rubbing and they’re very green they look very healthy but growing very slow there in a 5 gallon in a 3 gallon pots how do you send a picture on there so you can see the plants can you do that
Sublime374
Sublime374
@Lancemosh, A lot of times slow growth is caused by over watering. Check out this website and see if it helps: https://www.growweedeasy.com/cannabis-plant-problems/overwatering The other thing that can stunt a plant's growth is if the container it's in is too small. Plants that are older than 3 weeks should be in at least a 3-gallon pot.
Lancemosh
Lancemosh
My White widowauto flower plant is week four from seedAnd it’s very small can you tell me why
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Sublime374
Sublime374week 12
Just another update. I looked closely at some pictures and the mold was on plant 1 before it went into the harvest tent, which means the grow tent was exposed to mold. So I wiped every square inch of the grow tent with bleach wipes, let it air out for a couple hours, moved plants 2 and 3 to the main tent so that I could wipe down the harvest tent the same way. Now I've got the harvest tent with a floor fan blowing into it to make sure it's totally aired out because I don't want that smell getting in the bud. When that's aired out I'll move plants 2 and 3 back to the harvest tent so that tomorrow I can get started in the main tent with the seeds that I popped. Oh yeah, counting is hard, I actually have 9 seeds. I completely took apart every cola on plant 1. Every bud has been pulled apart and while there isn't any mold visible, there's lots of the "albino" plant material in areas that never got any light. It looks like after that white material gets exposed to air for a while it to turns a dark reddish brown, like bud rot. I'm assuming it's bud rot waiting to happen but I'll just have to keep an eye on it and see. All of plant 1 is far away from the harvest area. All of the materials used when trimming and harvesting have been cleaned or thrown out. I went in and cut one of the "twin buds" off of plant 2 because that's the kind of area that has all of the albino growth on plant 1. The part of that bud that was growing into its "twin" has some of that same albino growth. If it is bud rot, I'm hoping that's the only part on plant 2 with it. The area where plant 1 got moldy is kind of a dead zone for air flow so I'm trying to stay optimistic that it's going to be contained to that one bit of bud, but that albino growth is telling me something isn't right. I'll update when there's more to update.
Sublime374
Sublime374week 1
@Majormolasses Right now I've got the light (HLG 550 v2) turned all the way down and daytime temps are around 75 with it falling as low as 66 at night. With the new humidifier I put in the tent, the humidity is remaining much more stable, around 50-60% at all times. I keep a tower fan running 24/7 in addition to the exhaust fan that's pulling about 250 CFM. I had a filter over my intake vent but I noticed the walls of the tent were getting sucked in so I just have what's basically a hair net over the intake to catch any dust bunnies or anything like that, so fresh air should always be flowing in without a problem. There was one time when I forgot to turn the tower fan back on (I turn it off to spray water on the soil) and the humidity got up to about 80% for a couple of hours, but I don't know if the air up higher was actually that wet. It was right after I got done spraying water and the thermometer/hydrometer was directly on the pot I watered. I also have two clip-on fans above my light to push hot air towards the exhaust fan, but it really doesn't produce much heat so I've been using them to push hot air down to the plants. My tent is in my basement, but it's not a true basement. The side of the basement my tent is on isn't below ground. The basement is usually 5 or 6 degrees colder than the rest of the house but the humidity is the same throughout. Keeping my temp high enough is the biggest challenge I've had so far which is why I use the clip-on fans to push the hot air down. So yeah, there's lots of air flow in the tent. All of that air flow is why I'm more and more confident it was just mineral dust from running the old humidifier. Also, after removing that humidifier there's no longer any kind of smell that resembles mildew. Thanks for the advice :)