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Larry Bird Kush (aka Gelato 33) Zamnesia

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Budcrack Budcrack
5 years ago
Week 10, concluding the first week of flowering: Hi(gh) Guys, Flowering, finally. First week was interesting again. I’m reaching the point where the training is almost done, and I’m beginning to draw conclusions about this ‘Chandelier’ topping-plan. I thought it would be a good idea to main-line two pairs of branches away from the core and let the space fill out with offshoots. Only, the lower pair of branches doesn’t get enough energy to properly grow offshoots, so I’d ended up removing a lot off underdeveloped offshoots, and for half the plants remove the mainline and straighten out the branches again, pointing up under 45 degrees angle. Bummer it didn’t work out, fixed what needed fixing, so that’s that. So, what about the other half? Well with plant B, D, E, G and H it kind of did work pretty ok since they filled up nicely, only this wasn’t the most efficient way of growing this way. Next time I think I name it ‘Plateau+’, plus because if I let the lower pair just grow up, and mainline the upper pair away from the core again, then I think I can manage the same in much less time and effort in training. The plus is for the extra lower pair of branches. Then, no second topping needed anyway. The chandelier as seen in the figure has 4 topping moments, I barely got to the second layer of topping. I’m not entirely sure how this topping plan looks when properly applied, and I think I can use examples for the next time I try this. I’ll be putting this up as question, so feel free to share your idea’s. I’ll add the figure with the photos. The things above doesn’t mean that this grow is a bust, the plants are very nice and the tent is completely filled with branches and little baby buds! Only, the second layer of topping doesn’t make much sense this way. Following the Green Buzz Liquids Professional growing schedule, the first two weeks of flowering are about switching to OBL (Organic Bloom Liquid), slowly reducing the OGL. Then from the third week on the plants will get an increasing amount of OMP (Organic More PK), BF (Big Fruits) and OBL, until flushing starts beginning week 9. I think adding the 10th week in my plan anyway is better for the end product, so week 9 and 10 are all about the finish. There is also something new added to the plan. Enrico from Green Buzz Liquids asked me to do a test during this flowering phase. At GBL they are close to releasing a brand new additive into the collection of GBL products. This is the by many growers much appreciated brown algae extract (Ascophyllum nodosum), named Green Buzz Liquids Growzyme (‘Gz’), containing a plethora of amino acids, minerals, trace elements, vitamins and other nutrients that are not present in this variety in terrestrial plants, forming the ideal additive for supporting the plant’s general health, resistance and metabolism. It can be added during the entire cycle, just like Humic Acid Plus. This plant aid is, in line of the rest of GBL products, very highly concentrated. So 1ml/L during vegetative phase is enough, and a maximum of 2ml during flowering. We agreed to test on half the plants 4/8 from the first feeding during flowering up until flushing. I chose to apply ‘Gz’ on plants A, D,E and F, and I’ll add ‘Gz’ to corresponding pictures. Also, plant A, F and D are on the left side of the tent. Plant E is behind plant B in the middle. Now, they have a week of flowering behind, and while writing this update it’s already Monday, so it’s week two. This last week, as the pictures show, was about defoliating. And doing so you’re also retarding the plants a bit. And since that happened three times, I think I was retarding this entire week. Defoliating plants to many people is a controversial method, but without doing this there is no way to be able to grow so much big plants inside a small tent (Homebox S), because the light would not penetrate enough. This is shown within the pictures, showing the light penetrating the canopy from the lower bars. At this moment all of the fan leaves are removed, leaving enough room for the light to come ;-) Looking at the differences at this point, the amount of white hairs on the Gz side is larger. Also these plants beginning to smell stronger, and they seem to bounce back faster from all of my defoliating. Still, it’s a bit early to see the difference from the pictures now, but I hope the differences become more pronounced next update. This first week they got 1ml, but Enrico already told me better to give 2ml from next time on because the plants are very big. I’m looking forward to see you back and check on the Larry Bird’s progress next week! Grtz, Budcrack ;-)
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Grow Questions
Budcrack
Budcrackstarted grow question 5 years ago
The last figure shows the topping plan i'd pick for this round, but i didn't manage to grow my plants this way. Better luck next time! Only now i want to know, can anyone point me to a diary that shows a plant that actually is topped that way? Thank you very much. 😏
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Mrs_Larimar
Mrs_Larimaranswered grow question 5 years ago
well , i would not hold on pictures..... in my opinion growing is to find your own style, and that is wht you did. Never seen plants trained like yours and i works... they show a great shape, have lots of flowers. and growing without issues. Get enough light etc. So i will say ... do your thing. refine your technic . And show us the results in the coming diaries
Budcrack
Budcrackstarted grow question 5 years ago
Who can show me a plant that is topped on three different moments, each time above the previously topped sites?
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Fruitgrower
Fruitgroweranswered grow question 5 years ago
Check out my gelat.Og grow by seedsman. This is called mainlining or manifolding and it is a process where you top and train 3 times to create 8 main stems growing of a single "manifold".
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Mrs_Larimar
Mrs_Larimarcommentedweek 155 years ago
Nice Illumination... looking good the Girls
Mrs_Larimar
Mrs_Larimarcommented5 years ago
@Budcrack,i was reading it, and i hope you find it out. My brain works alittle different, so iam not trying to top like this and let her frow in that shape. I think the problem is in the twodimensional painting.. it got to be 3D......i think they let the plant growlike crossesknow what i mean.. one node in direction from east to west, next node from south to north......
Budcrack
Budcrackcommented5 years ago
@Mrs_Larimar, thanks! Did you see my other reaction to your last comment? I'm really trying to find the answer.
Mrs_Larimar
Mrs_Larimarcommentedweek 175 years ago
very lovely "knotlike" Buds..... yummy and i look forward to next week happy flushing
Budcrack
Budcrackcommented5 years ago
@Mrs_Larimar, yeah and a couple of pheno's have great dense ones like D, E and G, not very big though.
Mrs_Larimar
Mrs_Larimarcommentedweek 135 years ago
hi, just do it " the Budcrack-style" and train your girls your way. happy growing. Here on ds are several growers and i would rcognize their grows in their growstyle..
Budcrack
Budcrackcommented5 years ago
@Mrs_Larimar, i think what i really mean is this: those three topping plans of which i'd posted the figures i believe are indeed the baseline idea's of different ways of topping a plant. The other two, the V8 and the Plateau are totally clear, only that Chandelier topping plan doesn't make sense as the figure. I'd see the others on GD, so now i'm really looking for a plant that comes close to the figure, to better understand.
Cheeba_Inu
Cheeba_Inucommentedweek 15 years ago
I like the detail and care going into your journal! I will be keeping an eye on this grow 👍
Budcrack
Budcrackcommented5 years ago
@Cheeba_Inu, thanks man! That's what i'm trying, to be as much of help sharing my findings and give everyone the chance to grow topshelf dope! 😉
Mrs_Larimar
Mrs_Larimarcommentedweek 185 years ago
Indeed there is alot of resin in the flowrs... happy harvesting
Mrs_Larimar
Mrs_Larimarcommentedweek 165 years ago
get well soon...
Satori_Hanso
Satori_Hansocommentedweek 55 years ago
I really like your grows. It can be seen you're putting a lot of effort. Keep on growing ! 👌💪
GreenBuzzNutrients
GreenBuzzNutrientscommentedweek 25 years ago
Thank you very much for sharing your first Diarie with our 100% organic product range. We wish you maximum success with your Larry Bird Kush Grow. If you have any questions pls feel any time free to contact us here via chat.
Budcrack
Budcrackcommentedweek 195 years ago
@Fruitgrower: thanks, i watched your proces with the Gelat OG. Could you point me towards someone who is most experienced in this proces? I think your retarding to much considering the state when you flipped 12/12. I would like to see the most efficiënt version of this proces. Thanks for the input bro!
Fruitgrower
Fruitgrowercommentedweek 195 years ago
There are a few growers here doing awesome mainlining that's why I wanted to try it out. I can't remember their names though.... @sticky does some. And I think a couple of the master growers have done good ones. This w my first attempt and it spent the first 8 weeks under cfl bulbs(could be why it's squat and dwarf like.
Budcrack
Budcrackcommented5 years ago
@Fruitgrower, ok, i'll see too it, but given the double vegtime i don't think it's going to work. It's important not to retard to much during veg, or timing it correct if you will. What you did with lollipopping so early threw at least 3 weeks delay. What would happen if you start topping, you now did with 3 weeks, but much later with a higher situated node. If you would let it grow until 5 or 6 weeks, and meanwhile pinch every branch beginning except the top two! All that leaf will grow big and deliver energy to your plant, like it's personal solar-field 😏 Then you start mainlining like you did week 5. The plant will have plenty of energy to grow, and lollipopping at that point, except your fanleafs below offcourse, like you did with your current grow, won't retard so much. Cheers bro!
Fruitgrower
Fruitgrowercommented5 years ago
@Budcrack, I also did something very similar called fluxing (which is when you do it really early and with younger plant). I did this with an auto Ggg1 and it worked great! There is a great tutorial by nugs bucket on grow weed easy, Google it, it helped me alot. But yes it is going to double your veg period.
Budcrack
Budcrackcommented5 years ago
@Fruitgrower, yeah, i know, but your trying it that's great! But i have to see how an efficiënt grow develops to determine if it fit's my yearly schedule. It's no use if i have to pregrow for more than 10 weeks, but i fear that if you manage to grow a big plant with this technique that it's gonna take a while to do so. My search continues, thanks bro! 👊
GreenBuzzNutrients
GreenBuzzNutrientscommentedweek 105 years ago
Thanky for Update, all plants look very healty at the moment. From now on we look specially forward to see the differents between you Plant B, C, G & H and A, D, E, F with the constantly usage of our new GROWZYME Product.
Budcrack
Budcrackcommented5 years ago
@GreenBuzzNutrients, P.s. 09-10: Today i'd removed the middle two plants to better compare between them after 2,5 weeks of adding Growzyme to half of the plants, the differences at this point are evident; plants receiving Growzyme bounce back much faster from intervening the growth, also the stems are thicker, more abundant leave growth, thicker buds with much more white hairs, and last but not least more resin production and that’s what where all doing this for, so I’m excited! Great addition to an already great product line. Can’t wait to see the difference in end-weight. Growzyme = good stuff for good stuff ;-)
Budcrack
Budcrackcommented5 years ago
@GreenBuzzNutrients, at this moment the difference is predominantly the smell, much stronger at the Growzyme plants. I'm very curious too! Thanks again!
smoking_hills9
smoking_hills9commentedweek 155 years ago
Looking like its gonna be heavy and tasty harvest. Well done man👍
Budcrack
Budcrackcommented5 years ago
@smoking_hills9, this is really great, yeah i'm happy. And whe're not even there!
Buddha2
Buddha2commentedweek 175 years ago
Wow!
VovaFarms
VovaFarmscommentedweek 165 years ago
Looking good
PharmaZ
PharmaZcommentedweek 165 years ago
They look so healthy! Good job 👍🏼
ChefDan420
ChefDan420commentedweek 165 years ago
Looks good 🍀
VovaFarms
VovaFarmscommentedweek 155 years ago
I love your setup
EZgrower
EZgrowercommentedweek 145 years ago
Time to prepare your Bong, buddy. I foresee a great harvest. bul bul bul subscribed and watching your grow.👍