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I'll keep the set up information going from week to week to hopefully reduce any questions about what is being used, and prevent people from having to scroll through the comments of every week to find what they may want to know. Step Up Info: Tent - 32"x32"x62" VIVOSUN mylar grow tent Light - 75W Rapid LED with a CREE CXB3590 COB Fans - AC Infinity CLOUDLINE S4 for exhaust, 2 Holmes 6" clip fans, one is towards the top shooting down, one is towards the lower-middle for circulation, 1 Honeywell 8" TurbroForce Air fan. Pot - #3 black resin thermoformed pot with an actual capacity of 2.6 gallons Medium - Fox Farm Ocean Forest mixed with more perlite Day 29 - Week 5 is upon us and we are now in the flowering stages. I did some more bdsm training as @El_Jeffe pointed out. I think that this will be my last day of LST and just let her grow up to the light. Does anyone want to give their thoughts? LST vs LiG (Let it Grow). Let me know in the comments. The main cola is stacking up, so and I have no more room to pull her around. That is why I'm like hmm...๐Ÿ˜ Day 30 - So I made a decision on the training and that is to more or less stop any "aggressive" LST training and to just let her start to grow up. For some reason I forgot to lower the light yesterday, the light has been lowered, 24 inches above the canopy for now. Day 31 - There was some slight LST done today, mostly just tucking to expose the slower sites. I haven't had to do any defoliation yet other than that one leaf. I gave her some nutrients today, a combination of Veg and Flower nutrients to help with the transition and get any of the last Veg nutrients it might still be pulling up as this is the first true week of Flower. Light is still at 24 inches. I'm going to let the plant grow to 18 inches from the light before I adjust again. Day 32 - Today is a big photo update day, not particular reason other than I thought I had some things I wanted to share. I like the shape I'm seeing and the number of tops I was able to generate. This will be a good test of what this new light can do. While not my fist grow using this light, it will be my first grow where this was the only light used for the whole cycle. There has been a lot of growing going on all over the plant. The more I got light down in the canopy the more sites appeared trying to play catch up. As stated before, I'm trying to do little to no defoliation and really see what I get with this light and set up. I know that I could increase theoretical yields by defoliating, but I want a base line to compare for later. I also need to consider if I can do anything different with my LST training. I counted 5 "missed opportunities under the main cola for independent tops. They should still have nice yields based on their obstructed growth. I just wonder how I could have gotten them more exposure with the rotation and space available. Right now the easiest idea I have is rectangle pot and grow her out like a long table. Creating two rows of grow sites. Unpaid product plug, but if you want a good quality all white full spectrum LED grow light, using arguably the best "horticulture targeted" cob LED light, the RapidLED 75W Cree CXB3590 grow light is a solid choice. It's priced nicely between the 54W and 100W Optic 1 and uses the same components, sans the lens. The RapidLED uses a reflector instead of a glass lens. It's not heavily advertised on the various blogs/websites covering the world of cannabis. Day 33 - We aren't done stretching yet so I was able to get some more training time in to separate some of those branches a little more. I've also adjusted the 8" fan to be off the plant some. I think it was causing some damage and stress to the various leaves. I'll try to also us more of the pot next time if I can get the right kind of lateral growing I would need for an effective spiral. The one side did not want to grow out fast enough to manipulate as easily as I would have liked. I'm still pleased though, but I want to make sure I can see the room for improvement to get better and better. Day 34 - The stretching is going well, I haven't seen any downsides to the half Veg half Flower nutrient mix. Day 35 - Week 5 comes to an end today. We have had some nice growth and development during our first week of flower. Saw some nice stretching across the board so I'm pleased heading in to week two of flower. Today she was watered again, this time with a flush as this was the third week of giving her nutrients. Depending on how long she takes it will determine when I flush again. The breeder says this is a 9 week strain. I've seen journals going from 8 weeks to 10 weeks as the low and high average. So if I go long, the next flush won't be until week 8, short, week 7. I've also noticed the plant has done a lot better since turning that 8" fan away. It may have liked the air flow, but the leaves hated it. Week 6, here we come.
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KCChiefers
KCChiefersweek 10
I mean obviously the plant is loving that light! ๐Ÿ‘ I'm really liking it and have been thinking about purchasing one or a couple lol. Do they draw an actual 75 watts from the wall? My blurple pulls 220 with both switches but I just feel like Cree and Samsung diodes are the way to go, I mean look at your plant growth! With nearly a third of the power I'm pulling. A buddy of mine has some hlg and the one thing I wish I would have done is get white lights from the bat. But I was too eager to start my journey haha. Since they're plug and play just buy one at a time and add them as I go? How well do they warm your tent? My blurple will in total raise temp 5-6* degrees F. Just curious about switching!
NeedsMoreFans
NeedsMoreFans
@KCChiefers, you are welcome.
KCChiefers
KCChiefers
@NeedsMoreFans, okay thank you! Should be having a harvest update here in a few days. Most of the buds will be put in jars tonight!
NeedsMoreFans
NeedsMoreFans
@KCChiefers, one thing I would suggest is to open the light and see if you can invert the fans for the heatsinks. Right now your light is probably pulling air in the top and shooting it down on to the heatsink and out the sides. While this is the way the light is designed it doesn't necessarily have to be that way. You should be able to invert them to pull air in the sides across the heat sinks and exhaust the heat out the top instead which is a more natural direction for the air to flow based on temperature. Some people will say that it is not necessary and doesn't help or improve, and sometimes it doesn't. I would run a temperature test if you can with the fans oriented both ways and see if you have an improvement in temperature below the light. I also suggest daisy chaining but make sure your tent can maintain good temperatures with adequate air exchange.
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GanjaFarmerGrow
GanjaFarmerGrowweek 3
Growing the same strain now ;) Good Luck Bro !!!!
NeedsMoreFans
NeedsMoreFans
@GanjaFarmerGrow, thank you for stopping by and leaving some kind words. Good luck to you as well with your grow, I'll make sure to follow and see what we each do that works for us and see if I see any techniques I may want to try.
KCChiefers
KCChiefersweek 10
Damn! She's really put on some weight. You know what they say if she ain't 280 she ain't a lady! I've been gone a week and I can tell she's stacked more on her! Curious to see what you'll get!
KCChiefers
KCChiefers
@NeedsMoreFans, to be honest man it put me to bed so I haven't really tested it too much. I was up for about an hour afterwards and was still going strong!
NeedsMoreFans
NeedsMoreFans
@KCChiefers, hey man, good luck on the interview. 15 minutes beats an hour any day. You are almost done! That's good to hear. The journey can feel long sometimes. Perpetual grows can be a pain in the butt. You don't necessarily need more than one light, but to better understand how to manage your light for each plant given its stage. Sounds like you are doing that though so no more worries. But I would still suggest perpetual with only two-three plants at a time until you feel more comfortable. And not because you can't keep up with it, but you will have to balance your life with each plant's light and nutrient needs on an individual basis, and with all of them in different stages, it will make for some work when it comes time to water. We try our plants on trim day, 1 week into the cure, 2 weeks into the cure, and then as needed. 7.5/10 isn't bad. How long did your buzz last you? 1/2 isn't bad at all considering your level of knowledge. Good job on your first grow ๐Ÿ‘! It's good that your needs are being met with you what you have accomplished. If anything, you sound more confident and ready to keep growing which is always nice. All is well man, just trying to get the work-life and home life in better harmony with each other.
KCChiefers
KCChiefers
@NeedsMoreFans, hopefully interview goes well tomorrow. 15 minute drive to work is so much better lol. Well my ladies are doing great. Saturday they will get the chop. I'm definitely learning about how hard a perpetual grow is. I wasn't even thinking and since I don't have more than one light, I should have adjusted the heights of the Bubblegums I started with risers or something similar. I've got that figured out now... But they probably will more than likely yield a quarter together. If I had the money I'd toss them but waste not want not, am I right? Haha. But I did have curiosity of trying some of the bud that has been curing for a week. Granted it was the first smoke of the day, but one .5 joint got me where I like to be. Overall like 7.5/10. Earthy/Citrusy more earthy as of now, but I'm sure a longer cure could improve that. At first I thought I messed up, 15 minutes go by and it hits me like an edible would hit ya. Real nice body/heady buzz. Even though I only received about a 1/2 from her it's so rewarding, as a first time grower, to say I did it lol and that it meets my needs. Now just need to see how much Yellow will bring me! Hope all is well.
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El_Jeffe
El_Jeffeweek 3
She's fighting that lst good job with keeping her under control also good details on the photos of your training technique easy to see and follow will take some of your methods and add it to my style
KCChiefers
KCChiefers
@NeedsMoreFans, I agree. They do look pretty good!
NeedsMoreFans
NeedsMoreFans
@El_Jeffe, yes she is fighting, hard. I like it though, I'm seeing good results so far. There are two laterals that I am curious to see how well and if they catch up, I've highlighted them in the photos above. Thank you for the compliment on the photos. I want to show what I'm doing and hopefully provide angles that help people who don't know. I'm not comfortable with making a video yet, so detailed photos for everyone. One thing I'm trying to do now is twist her slightly so there are no down facing branches. No the easiest thing to do, but I'm trying. By all means, take anything I can do that you think will be beneficial to your own endeavors.
Sweet_Seeds
Sweet_Seedsweek 1
Thank you very much for sharing a new diary with one of our strains. ๐Ÿ˜Š We hope you enjoy it. ๐Ÿ˜‹ Sweet smokes, - Apolo
Sweet_Seeds
Sweet_Seeds
@NeedsMoreFans, As with any other strain, use a good substrate, do not water excessively and have all other factors well controlled.๐Ÿ˜‹ Sweet smokes! -Apolo
NeedsMoreFans
NeedsMoreFans
@Sweet_Seeds, I definitely enjoy the strain. I just hope to do a much better job on growing it out than the last time. Do you have any suggestions to offer for getting the most out of your genetics on this strain?
KCChiefers
KCChiefersweek 11
That's a nice fat cola!
NeedsMoreFans
NeedsMoreFans
@KCChiefers, Thanks. She is almost done.
El_Jeffe
El_Jeffeweek 8
Looking smart mate she's a picture of health and your training has turned out great I would say its doubled your potential yeild she's also filling out nicely
NeedsMoreFans
NeedsMoreFans
@El_Jeffe, she had me worried with that calcium issue, and I'm still worried, but less so. Your suggestion about opening her up really helped a lot. The production turned up and is still turning up. I'm like when are these other branches going to end their stretch?! How many more flower sites am I going to have? Defoliating in conjunction with opening her up is doing wonders. I'm sure I could have gotten larger flowers on top of each branch had I defoliated more, but I want to keep it to a minimum. If I get some good popcorn off the bottom it will be okay. If it fails to make decent popcorn, I'll defoliate the flower sites that won't be worth much and the leaves on future grows. Let's finish these plants, man. I can't wait. You have me really wanting to grow my last seed of NL. All 3 of your plants are looking good man.
Sweet_Seeds
Sweet_Seedsweek 6
Great update! ๐Ÿ˜Š A good job and well explained. ๐Ÿ‘Œ Sweet smokes, -Apolo
NeedsMoreFans
NeedsMoreFans
@Sweet_Seeds, Thank you Apolo.
KCChiefers
KCChiefersweek 6
Ugh. The canopy looks so good. Also love the comparison pic. I may have to do that when i get farther along again. She really put on a nice stretch. And even though you said you weren't as pleased with your LST as you would've liked, I feel like it worked out well as she has bushed out very nicely and uniformly.
NeedsMoreFans
NeedsMoreFans
@KCChiefers, yes, she does have a nice canopy. I do get what you are saying, she did put on a nice stretch for the training she did receive and is filling out nicely. I think I was just being more critical than I really need to be. I was letting the ego get in the way of what was happening. Thanks for the positive words. Comparison pictures are good to see what you are doing well and how you are improving. Even if you don't post them on here, take more for yourself to see what is and isn't working.
El_Jeffe
El_Jeffeweek 6
She's filling out nicely good job on the training shame u snapped a branch but she has taken it like a champ hasn't slowed her down one bit I'd say she's almost the size of my GG has she started to put out any frost yet or smell
NeedsMoreFans
NeedsMoreFans
@El_Jeffe, thank you for the compliment on the training. It turned out better than I had anticipated in all reality. I think I waited until the right time to release her from her bonds. Yeah, that one branch is a definite non issue at this point with her development. Have you measured the height of your GG lately for comparison? She is starting trichome development. In terms of smell, my sinuses are jacked right now so I can't tell.
KCChiefers
KCChiefersweek 2
Good luck with the grow, I made sure to return the follow and interested to see how we both progress!
NeedsMoreFans
NeedsMoreFans
@KCChiefers, thank you. And I agree, I'm also interested to see how we both progress. This will be my 7th grow total, and 1st in a tent. I've had some failures a long the way for one reason or another. I'm looking to make this the best outing. I just need to keep this soil moisture levels in line while dealing with the heat that is outside making the the tent so hot. I've grown in 80-82 degree temperatures before, and had no soil issues, this time though, not so much. It is the 1st time with a tent like I said though, so new environment learning curve.
Dahoola
Dahoolaweek 1
Good luck with your grow! I'll follow along
NeedsMoreFans
NeedsMoreFans
@Dahoola, thank you for the encouraging words and follow. I'll do my best to update regularly.
KCChiefers
KCChiefersweek 12
Looks like an absolutely delicious harvest! Can't wait to see your final results after drying. I swear just reading someone else's journal I feel like they're my own haha. It's been a hell of a journey ๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ”ฅ
Sweet_Seeds
Sweet_Seedsweek 11
Yum yum! ๐Ÿ˜‹ You are making your harvest look delicious! Keep it up! ๐Ÿ˜‹ Sweet smokes, -Apolo
KCChiefers
KCChiefersweek 10
Looking super tasty!
KCChiefers
KCChiefersweek 6
She really bushed out on you! I may have to take your word on this strain and order me some seeds of it. I love trying new strains.
KCChiefers
KCChiefersweek 4
It's amazing to see LST work SO well. I was surprised how much they bush out after a few days!
NeedsMoreFans
NeedsMoreFans
@KCChiefers, ouch! An hour each way? That is rough. More power to you for being able to do it.
KCChiefers
KCChiefers
@NeedsMoreFans, no worries man I agree with you. I just started a new job and it's been hectic with an hour commute each way.
NeedsMoreFans
NeedsMoreFans
@KCChiefers, yeah, life has been a bit hectic. I think I'm going to dial it back to every other day/4 days a week. Sorry to keep you waiting.
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KCChiefers
KCChiefersweek 3
Do you add cal mag as a preventative? Or since you have a few grows under your belt you know it's expected?
NeedsMoreFans
NeedsMoreFans
@KCChiefers, yes, that is exactly what I'm saying, every strain is different in terms of nutrients needed. I haven't used the Happy Frog soil or mixed them. I've had zero issues with the FFOF so far. I think that the different soil grow would be a good choice to make to see how those genetics respond to the different soil compositions. The FFHF will be less hot than the FFOF, so you may see different reactions on the growth. You also may not see any differences that are noticeable. Unfortunately it's always an experiment until you have done enough to know what does and doesn't work. So I say one FFOF and one FFHF. Learning is always beneficial.
KCChiefers
KCChiefers
@NeedsMoreFans, so basically every strain is different in terms of nutrients needed is that what you're saying? If so I get what you mean by that. I've got two seeds left of this strain and will be adding two more seeds in to the 4x4 tent here in a few days. I'll post a new journal with them. Oh and actually my local shop was out of the Ocean Forest last time I went , so I got the big ol' bag of Happy Frog. Which one do you prefer? The two bubblegum seeds I'm germing in a few days...should I do one in FFOF and one in FFHF to see if it has any difference? The Happy Frog is a little bit cheaper and I get a bigger bag.
NeedsMoreFans
NeedsMoreFans
@KCChiefers, It really depends on your plants and how they respond to what is available in the soil already. I've never had a plant respond poorly to the FFOF, even with nutrients being added after 7 days from sprouting. But that doesn't mean it will or won't work for you. I would suggest that if you are unsure, only give cal-mag to one of your plants that isn't the runt. You can then do a comparison on how this line of genetics responds to your dosing. If you feel like nothing changed, then you will have some idea on how to proceed with this genetic line for your next round. This also doesn't mean this genetic line would never need cal-mag, but you can start to determine how much it may need compared to other strains when you start to try other genetics. If you are also worried about how hot the soil is, for you next grow I would suggest a 50/50 of FFOF and FFHF, or just go 100 FFHF. Just know that each run will be different and you are learning how to dial in your touches to specific strains, and that some of what you are learning can be broad spectrum in its application.
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El_Jeffe
El_Jeffeweek 3
Looking good not sure on what direction you should bend her to be honest just go with what you think is right and I'm sure u will be OK or you could try pony tailing her it will force some of the shoots to grow out that might help you decide
NeedsMoreFans
NeedsMoreFans
@El_Jeffe, I just click on "Edit Week" and update it day by day if I can. I download my pictures each day after loading the site to have them already in order and set up. I've topped before, with different autos, RQS, SS, Barney's Farm, Nirvana, and they haven't freaked out. This time though I wanted to avoid all that. I want push my LST skills harder to do better and figure out what I really like. I think that after I've had more practice and time, I'll do a combo of LST with Pony Tailing (also LST).
El_Jeffe
El_Jeffe
@NeedsMoreFans, looking good how do you add pictures to the weeks you have already submitted wasn't aware you could do that also have you considered topping her if you want more colas I would wait until the next set of nodes come in then top her will give u a more Even canopy to manipulate with lst
NeedsMoreFans
NeedsMoreFans
@El_Jeffe, I made a decision, no pony tails needed. But that wasn't something I was thinking about doing, maybe in the future if I can't decide. Thank you for giving input, also. I'm hoping for 10 cola sites by the time flowering starts, we will see.
El_Jeffe
El_Jeffeweek 7
Looking smart mate nice structure from the training since you have the room have u thought about opening the tall branches out by that I mean try pulling them as low as they will go to open up the canopy and even it out it will allow more light to your flowers if you do try it go slow a be carefull not to brake any branches
NeedsMoreFans
NeedsMoreFans
@El_Jeffe, I have actually been debating on that one. I might give it a shot tonight and see how it goes. There is a fear of breaking a branch.