STRETCHING THINGS OUT
It’s about that time when if all is going as planned your plants should be showing signs of wanting to start stretching over the next couple of weeks. This signals the transition from vegetative growth into the bloom phase. Timing for the stretch can vary between strains as well as how much stretching can occur this may be affected by different factors like light, nutrients, temperature, genetics and phenotype differences even if they are from the same strain.
It’s natural and beneficial to allow the inter-nodes to reasonably stretch in order to allow more light to reach the bud sites emerging from the nodes. What we want to avoid is over stretching causing long weak lanky stems subjecting them to breaking under the weight of those heavy buds later in the bloom phase spelling disaster. We also want to incorporate some plant training techniques to try to develop a more manageable and even plant canopy if possible.
Keeping plants in too low of a light intensity will cause the plants to want to reach or stretch for the light so this needs to be addressed before it becomes an issue as early as possible right from the start of your grow. Keep in mind using too high of an intensity of light will cause the opposite effect of slowing growth possibly permanently stunting the plant. Using your trusty PPF/PAR meter to ensure the ideal light intensity almost eliminates this issue.
The light spectrum is also important with auto flower plants it’s not unusual for the plants to begin showing pre-flowers by week 3 or 4. Try to avoid the temptation of hitting them with your bloom lights too soon because adding more red spectrum lights will cause even more stretching. Holding off until they are ¾ of the way through stretch or completely done stretching would be ideal to control or limit the amount of desired stretch. It can be a matter of preference and experience with knowing how much each strain will tend to stretch.
Auto flower cannabis require less nutrients than photo period plants. Even during the peak stage of bloom, I find it is unusual to use more than ½ strength nutrients. Using too many nutrients too soon that are high in nitrogen and even phosphorus can cause excessive stretching.
Remember our soil mixture has some nutrients in it already so using smaller 1/8 to1/4 strength nutrients which should be more than adequate during the first 3 or 4 weeks. If your plants are showing good progress and the leaf color is a healthy shade of green, you’re in good shape. If growth is slow or your leaves are very light green or yellow you have issues that need to be addressed. I will be discussing more about nutrients in week 6. So, skip ahead if needed.
Larger differences between daytime and nighttime temperature can contribute to stretching. Maintaining a smaller temperature drop will help limit over stretching. Large swings can be avoided by running your lights longer hours or 24/7 if needed during the stretch. Plants also seem to stretch more after lights first come on after a dark period. Using air conditioners or heaters if necessary, to limit or eliminate temperature swing can also help.
Because we are growing from seeds genetics and phenotype variants occur regularly. Sativa strains tend to do more stretching while Indica strains tend to grow shorter and wide. XL and XXL strains can produce larger plants and harvests so extra room may be needed. While most plants of the same strain will have similar traits there’s always a chance of a dominant rebel breaking out that’s larger or a runt which is smaller than the rest. Recognizing these plants early enough you can employ a few different strategies to keep them under control by using more of or limiting a few of the other items that influence growth and stretching. Growing multiple different strains creates a greater chance of height, growth and bloom time variables.
Plant training using LST (Low Stress Training) to manipulate branch positions can help limit height, position branches and bud sites to create a more uniform canopy to ensure maximum light intensity to all buds for proper growth. For taller plants more aggressive LST work can be done by gently pulling branches lower and directing the growth to the outside edge of your pots using coated wire, pipe cleaners and twine if needed. For smaller plants you may only need to lightly LST the main stem and a few outer branches.
I try to put off LST training when plants are small in order to prevent disturbing the crown of the plant which would mean possibly tearing some roots setting it back. I now wait until it’s about 8-9 inches tall and prefer to start bending back the top of the main stem at about 5 to 6 inches above the base of the plant. This needs to be done at a point where and while the stem is still soft and flexible enough to be manipulated. Bending it too far all at once could cause it to snap. You can bend it in stages while it’s still growing then bend it over more in a few days. You will acquire a feel for how far or much she’s willing to bend for you after a few grows.
I don’t recommend using HST (High Stress Training) techniques like topping, FIM (Fimming), super cropping on auto flower plants while many growers have had excellent success in doing so these plants grow and bloom so quickly if done too late or incorrectly it can add too much time for them to recover hindering growth, flowering.
While using multiple light stress techniques during your grows can produce a better end result the opposite effect can happen when causing too much stress. It can actually trigger your auto flower plants natural survival instincts and cause your plants to turn into hermaphrodites. If this goes unnoticed and pollen gets released you will have seeds in most of if not all of your plants if it gets blown around your tent, grow room, house clothes. It can also possibly contaminate future grows. Not a good thing! So, proceed with caution.
WEEK 4 UPDATE
The bloom is officially on! These girls are giving some stretch but still have some more left in them with the tallest one stopping at 18 inches.
Started week with just straight ph correct water since I squeezed in one last feeding late in week 3.
Middle of the week gave these girls a nice flush to get them ready for some bloom nutes. Highest runoff was 1250 ppm I'm sure there was a lot of stuff building up in there so I continued to flush until I got the runoff ppm in the 800-850 ppm range. Runoff ph was great in the 6.0-6.2 range. Followed up with a light nutrient solution of 450 ppm for the last quart of flush water.
Let them dry out nicely for a few days last day of week I used 1 table spoon Organic Blackstrap Molasses per gallon of water ph corrected and added 1/2 teaspoon Great White beneficial microbes. Planning on one more application of great white in week 6.
Flipped on my bloom lights PPF/PAR meter reading 550 - 650 umoles Giving me a DLI of 39.60 to 46.80 Moles per day great for budding stage.
Tent temperature 81 F with an average leaf temperature of 75 and average humidity of 60%. Giving me a LVPD of 0.80 kPa
What a fantastic diary and tutorial! I bookmarked this grow and will certainly re-read it multiple times in the future. Thanks a lot! One can clearly see that you put a lot of thinking into it. What a pleasure to read. 😍👍💪
damn that looks tastie.. I got some of them seeds on the way soon cant wait... and today I saw one of fast buds pre-released strains was the original ak, im glad the new strains are coming ive grown every single seed fast buds sells except for their rhino...anyways good diary nice pics and great write up
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Nice Diary and very entertaining . I like it that you shared your thoughts to the grow. And i found myself in this toughts. And iam going to tst your reciepe for vodka... but uncarboxylated. ) i would fall to slep immediately) i like the ideas of spices and hoeny in it....gotta test it
@Mrs_Larimar, Thank you, I usually have a shot or 2 late in the evening then glide off to sleep after a few hours. I have shared this at a holiday party with freinds it was very well received it created a nice social atmosphere. I think the effect would be determined by the strain and ripeness of the bud. Also using Vodka problably doesn't extract as much thc as say using pure grain alcohol. I think my concern was more about not winding up with a green colored mixture. Grain alchohol will extract some of the chlorophyll in the bud.
Thanks for the details. I am looking to get a light meter and this helps. Also your thoughts on week six cal mag deficiency. I’ll add in bone meal to my mix.
At the moment worm casting works great for me.
But yeah, more organic would be better.
@Philindicus, hey thanks - i'll go lightly on the bone meal then. Thought I was gonna put in 10% in the mix. Better to use 5%.
With light meters, I was really confused. But I already notice how my seedlings are doing better under cfl than LED. There are rooms to play with with various specialty light colors like green and UV.
I do grow out door but thinking about setting up an indoor space to veg.
@Med_in_Tropic, I bought an inexpensive hydro farm PAR meter for LED light use. I've already had to break out the soldering iron to fix a loose wire from pulling on the sensor cord. It gets the job done but the Apogee 500 full spectrum is $550 this is better quality. I'll put it on my long wish list. Just nice to know how intense your lights are at different positions in your tent you can pull denser trichome growth out of your buds. Also on the list is a UVB light.Growers of photo period plants running their blooms at 12 hrs a day can go a lot higher than I'm running my autos that's where the DLI comes in to play. Trying a few new things this grow with 3 gallon deeper pots. I will know if leaning organic is working by the amount of root mass leading up to nice top growth. Once again I am height restricted so I prefer to try to keep them no taller than 24 inches after stretch if possible.
I think if you premix bone meal into your soil mix ahead of time and allow it to break down for a while it could help but being high in phosphorus there's always a risk of root burn. Possibly layering the richest mix on the bottom of the pot would be better with a leaner mix closer to the plants young roots.
@SirDillton, Thanks, This has really been my best grow so far. I usually lolly pop my plants a bit more than I did this time. Seems like the top 5-7 buds on the branches have nice density. I typically run around 1.5+ oz per plant of top solid bud. I haven't separated out the larf buds yet but I will be doing a few recipes with this stuff.
@GrowGuyTy, I was trying to add more photos and stuff but the site keeps logging me out in the middle of trying to update. I've been having to log back in at least a few times per hour. I messaged GD about the issue. Wonder if anyone else is having the issue of constantly being logged out. I know GD has been making improvements to the site it could be on their list.
@EZgrower, Wish I could handle a good bong hit. Fact is since I quit smoking cigarettes like 20 years ago I can't take deep hits any more. I would like to invest in a nice vaporizer at some point.
fantastic Lemon AK. Enjoy the fruit of your hard work bro! 420FASTBUDS are best to start with when growing autos for sure! 👍 i'm Flowering the Gorilla, check it out if you like! thanks!! 👍