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HazeyBobby HazeyBobby
5 years ago
The week starts Monday, Nov-25 still in seedling stage. The leaves are bigger than I expected for this stage, they seem very full, big serrated edges and plump. It is my first experience growing in Coco and this strain. Diagnosed the current state of the fat plump droopy and wrinkled leaves as over watering. Most probably due to using 3.5L pots for seedlings. - Added a small oil heater into the tent during the lights out period due to low temps. The plant is growing with very short node intervals and building a strong stem. - Added a small humidifier into the tent to increase the average humidity levels during lights on period. The heat from the lamp was keeping the humidity levels low (<~40%).
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HazeyBobby
HazeyBobbystarted grow question 5 years ago
First time using Coco (Canna Prof), since seedlings the leaves are deformed and exhibit over-watering symptoms. In 3.5L pots with white healthy roots showing from below. Water (with nutrients) every 2-3 days. Could someone suggest where my problem focus should be?
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CRiSPrGrow
CRiSPrGrowanswered grow question 5 years ago
hey there Hazey bobby, you're right about the symptoms but i can tell you already know it's not that simple... dont worry , very simple to fix. So in coco you need nutrients, micro nutrients, and because the medium is sterile, you need something to break down the nutrients and micro for the plant which normally in soil would be done by bacterial life. So you need what's called a chelation agent, for example : enzymes, humic acid, beneficial bacteria, or even diluted H202 0.3% max. add that to every watering and you'll see your plant perk up almost instantly. Hope this helps ! 🚀
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Mrs_Larimar
Mrs_Larimarcommentedweek 45 years ago
https://www.growweedeasy.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/09/cannabis-plant-problem-flowchart.jpg drooping leaves can have alot of causes. because you know your actions just floow the flowchart to get the answer. and btw... coco friendly nutrients contain enzymes to break down the nutrients for the plant dont worry On the same website is a very good tutorial for groiwng in coco coir... one think as first.. coc should never run dry...greetings and happy growing
HazeyBobby
HazeyBobbycommented5 years ago
@Mrs_Larimar, thanks heaps for the feedback. I did read Canna Coco Pro comes pre-buffered and the Canna Coco (A&B) nutrients should work well. And I did add enzymes in the last feed. I'm going through the flowchart - it's a great website for info.
JinksyGrows
JinksyGrowscommentedweek 185 years ago
Hell yes. Great pull and stellar buds man. Fantastic work👌. I'll be looking into those trimmers. I don't mind mine, but they get gummed up so easily and the spring keeps binding😕. Thanks for the links fella. Cheers. And again, congrats😉
JinksyGrows
JinksyGrowscommented5 years ago
@HazeyBobby, Haha. Surplus is never a bad thing😉. You do oil concentrates at all (solvent free)? I wasn't an oil guy and didn't think it would do good by me and/or be a waste of product...but Holy crap, I'm on board now. Harvested and milled enough for 1.25 liters 😅. Hahaha. Give her a shot for poops and giggles!? And I really feel I see your project in my head, but I'm definitely going to need you to show us, hahaha. It sounds very interesting. This will kinda look like tomatoes growing on a vertical trellis (net) w/ the light pointing from the side not from the top? Regardless! Sounds cool man. Best of luck soaking those new seeds!!!!😉😀 Edit: I'm dumb. I see you already said you have 2 ounce for concentrates! Nvm!!
HazeyBobby
HazeyBobbycommented5 years ago
@JinksyGrows, next is a creative grow... an experiment to LST a vertical ScrOG with my light placed on the side horizontally. Will most likely grow OG Kush ... I'm holding myself back from another Strawberry Lemonade as it's yielded so much and I'll have a problem with overstock... I'm already good for a couple of years with this crop's harvest :)
JinksyGrows
JinksyGrowscommented5 years ago
@HazeyBobby, SO! What's next on the menu Bobby? Have a grow lined up or taking a short break? Sorry if you already mentioned this somewhere else! 😦
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MovingOn
MovingOncommentedweek 185 years ago
Congrats on your placement 😊
HazeyBobby
HazeyBobbycommented5 years ago
@MovingOn, great to hear 👌 all for sharing ideas, methods and results :)
MovingOn
MovingOncommented5 years ago
@HazeyBobby, being detailed goes a long way. Keep it up! The more we all help each other, the better it is for the community, and I think the judges do take that into consideration.
HazeyBobby
HazeyBobbycommented5 years ago
@MovingOn, thank you very much - didn't expect that one :)
Resin_Randy
Resin_Randycommentedweek 185 years ago
Nice Job 🍀👌🏼
HazeyBobby
HazeyBobbycommented5 years ago
@@Resin_Randy, cheers mate. Pretty stocked :)
Ozeola
Ozeolacommentedweek 185 years ago
Looks great! How do you like your mars sp250?
HazeyBobby
HazeyBobbycommented5 years ago
@Ozeola, I love the light. It's my first LED light and I spent a lot of time researching many options around this price mark and for 4'x2' tent. It's very bright, minimal heat and a solid form factor. Check out this review - fairly comprehensive - www.youtube.com/watch Hope it helps.
JinksyGrows
JinksyGrowscommentedweek 185 years ago
Right on Bobby. Beauty yeild and great bud👌. We were harvesting buddies this week. Neato. Haha😀 Enjoy! And I await the final review👍
HazeyBobby
HazeyBobbycommented5 years ago
@JinksyGrows, yeah very cool to be harvesting at the same time! the Strawberry Lemonade plant (the other one in my tent) has now sprawled over and is looking like a monster ... pity harvesting is such a one-off event :) by the way just to share - I used these Japanese scissors for manicuring and they made a world of difference to the experience :) https://www.amazon.com/Chikamasa-Stainless-Scissors-Fluorine-Resin-resistant/dp/B00JSYB9I6
MrRaid
MrRaidcommentedweek 175 years ago
Damn shes big good work
HazeyBobby
HazeyBobbycommented5 years ago
@MrRaid, thanks heaps! just chopped her canopy layer off and wow! the smell during trimming!!! whilst I was disappointed with the size of buds I really won't be complaining about the yield :) And to your point... it may be a little too big for that space and light. Next grow I'm going to try mainlining and do a full lollipop.
northernMike
northernMikecommentedweek 175 years ago
👍👍
CRiSPrGrow
CRiSPrGrowcommentedweek 45 years ago
hey there growmie, hope i answered your question anything else you need just let me know 👊
CRiSPrGrow
CRiSPrGrowcommented5 years ago
@HazeyBobby, yeah man & since you waited so long to start adding you'll really see it pick up steam now
HazeyBobby
HazeyBobbycommented5 years ago
@CRiSPrGrow, just as an update - the plants are recovering well after the first feed/water with the enzymes. I have also stablised the temp and humidity in the grow tent as this was in wild swings. Thanks again.
CRiSPrGrow
CRiSPrGrowcommented5 years ago
@HazeyBobby, cannazym is perfect, just wait till the medium dries out then start adding it, it will fix the leaf curlings etc
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Daviduhh
Daviduhhcommentedweek 175 years ago
I love the look of that flower. It looks delicious too. 🤤
HazeyBobby
HazeyBobbycommented5 years ago
@Daviduhh, I found the right tools make a huge difference alongside harvesting in stages (e.g. tops first then 10 days later the lower layers). I suffered the same last year with the trimming but it's been a very different experience with this crop. I've linked the two tools I use. Also think the strain itself makes a difference based on its flower structures. I wet trim all the fan leaves immediately then after 1-2 days of starting the drying process (buds hung) I do the trimming and manicuring over 1-2 days. Music always helps :) https://www.amazon.com/Hydrofarm-HGPP400C-Precision-Curved-Pruner/dp/B005449D3W (just great for initial trim) https://www.amazon.com/Chikamasa-Stainless-Scissors-Fluorine-Resin-resistant/dp/B00JSYB9I6 (a must have for final manicure)
Daviduhh
Daviduhhcommented5 years ago
@HazeyBobby, unfortunately, the chop is my least favorite part of the growing process. It takes foreveeer to trim. Do you do wet trimming or dry trimming?
HazeyBobby
HazeyBobbycommented5 years ago
@Daviduhh, yeah it's a special one ... chop chop in a few hours so can't wait :)
Philindicus
Philindicuscommentedweek 45 years ago
Are you using nutrients every time you water? It looks like you may be possibly underfeeding them. You should use Cannas feeding chart. While it's hard to over water using coco coir it does happen especially if they are started in too large of a pot. While the top of the pot seems dry the bottom of the pot stays too wet until you have enough roots to fill the pot. If you've been using "plain water" on them with no nutrients you may have disrupted the cal/mag balance of the coco coir and it's stealing cal/mag out of your nutrient feedings. You are dealing with large day night temperature swings this could cause some nutrient absorption issues. Maintaining higher humidity levels during the daytime in the 55% + range could help keep her stoma open to absorb more Co2 which is needed for photosythesis.
HazeyBobby
HazeyBobbycommented5 years ago
@Philindicus, OK - understood. I'm was adding half dosage of the BAC CalMag but will stop it from today and observe the plants for coming week. Great info - thank you! I have added more photos in latest week from yesterday after topping.
Philindicus
Philindicuscommented5 years ago
@HazeyBobby, It's hard to tell in your photos. If the lowest leaves that are turning yellow have reddish stems it's usually a sign of lack of nitrogen. Using too much Calcium and magnesium can cause issues locking out potassium absorption. Excesses of all three can actually all lockout each other. So too much calcium will lockout magnesium and potassium. Too much magnesium will lockout calcium and potassium. Too much potassium will lock out calcium and magnesium. Typically 4 parts potassium to 2 parts calcium to 1 part magnesium needs to be used to keep some type of balance between them. Canna Coco nutrients should already have extra calcium and magnesium in it. It's possible your other cal/mag product may be causing issues from what I can find on the internet bac cal/mag seems to have more magnesium than calcium. If that's the case you have excess magnesium locking out calcium and potassium. Some times it's not a good idea to mix different brands of nutrients. If you shoot canna a message they will probably repeat everything I've just mentioned.
HazeyBobby
HazeyBobbycommented5 years ago
@Philindicus, I use nutrients every time I water and have started daily fertigation. I have used the Canna coco feeding chart as a template with 'Light Feeding' option - found the EC levels high at 1.8-2 so I reduced my numbers. I will be increasing the strength this coming week as per my schedule. I'm also about to hopefully fix my temp & humidity issues. And yes, the pot was too big for the seedling - good lesson learnt. Thanks heaps for the feedback and advise, much appreciated.
JinksyGrows
JinksyGrowscommentedweek 105 years ago
Clean defo, strong, massive & healthy stems/stocks, beautiful green leaves, great form and great shape. What more could you literally ask for in a grow? Fantastic work. Very happy to see your success with all the girls. Cheers and continued success👍😉
JinksyGrows
JinksyGrowscommented5 years ago
@HazeyBobby, No worries at all. And we all need a little bit of/get a bit of luck here and there, but but in the end it's really all you man🙂. If you ask me, it will only get better and better👍. Keep it up!
HazeyBobby
HazeyBobbycommented5 years ago
@JinksyGrows, thanks heaps for the feedback. This has been a lucky crop - my last one was ... something. 👍
MaryJaneUSA
MaryJaneUSAcommentedweek 185 years ago
Congrats mate!
HazeyBobby
HazeyBobbycommented5 years ago
@MaryJaneUSA, thanks heaps .. good motivation booster 😎
Mrs_Larimar
Mrs_Larimarcommentedweek 185 years ago
Congratulations for Cupwinning Diary.. well deserved
HazeyBobby
HazeyBobbycommented5 years ago
@Mrs_Larimar, thank you so much for the congrats ... gives a boost to inspiration :)
Ace13
Ace13commentedweek 185 years ago
Congratulations! Looks amazing!
HazeyBobby
HazeyBobbycommented5 years ago
@Ace13, thanks heaps! the jars are still smelling amazing :) and such a good high/vibes.
JinksyGrows
JinksyGrowscommentedweek 165 years ago
Great looking forest of bud👌. Doing a hell of a job. Continued success this week with them, Bobby. Cheers and happy grows☺️
HazeyBobby
HazeyBobbycommented5 years ago
@JinksyGrows, thanks mate. Constantly doubting 'something' that could be improved :) Good to see you enjoying your grows too.
Philindicus
Philindicuscommentedweek 165 years ago
Looks great. With CBD strains do they recommend taking them during the end of the harvest window to maximize cbd content? I read some conflicting recommendations regarding this part of growing cbd strains.
HazeyBobby
HazeyBobbycommented5 years ago
@Philindicus, thanks for the info - always good! I'm going to harvest the tops first then allow the lower sites to ripen over another week as needed. Will start to read some info on CBD strains and harvesting - I don't have any experience. And hoping to make oil out of this harvest :)
MrRaid
MrRaidcommentedweek 145 years ago
Looks great bro
HazeyBobby
HazeyBobbycommented5 years ago
@MrRaid, thanks! I'm slightly disappointed with the bud size development and hopefully the change in nutrients line from Canna to GHE will address that in future grows. I think the plants got too much nitrogen whilst flowering as Canna uses the same mix (A&B) throughout a grow.
MrRaid
MrRaidcommentedweek 135 years ago
Very talented grower love the shape you have created gonna yeild good 👍😎
HazeyBobby
HazeyBobbycommented5 years ago
@MrRaid, thank you ... good lessons learnt throughout this grow... and now it's patience :)
CRiSPrGrow
CRiSPrGrowcommentedweek 125 years ago
great work man, i would up the cal mag though, just go for it until the flush no problem. Very cool to see the progress like this. 🚀
HazeyBobby
HazeyBobbycommented5 years ago
@CRiSPrGrow, thanks heaps for the note. I just posted a question on my Straw.Lem. plant which is in the same crop/grow space as I'm very worried about the bud development for this stage of flowering. Your feedback would be valuable and I will look to increase the cal/mag from the next feed. 🙏