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Harrythehat Harrythehat
5 years ago
1st day of week 5 in flower now. still pre stretching 30 litres of water 3 x 70mm nutrient top up. day2 20 litres top up 2x 70 mm of nutrent featured she's 27 inches light hours down too 17/7 Table will be about 50% down on yield because these plants are all over the place they SHOULD all be like the featured. But because Autos do it when they please it don't please me. go back to feminised seeds for the next time, much better evenness of canopy. day3 top ups 2 x 10 litres 140 ml grow 1 x 10 litre 70 ml bloom phasing bloom into nutes now featured she's @ 29 inches heads are starting to appear. day 4 nutrient top up 1 x 10 litre 70 ml grow 1 x 10 litre 70 ml bloom featured she's 31 inches. After reading an article last night light hours are now 12/12 Thanks Darkwarsongs was on the way down there the reading confirmed it. Day 5 1 x 10 litres 70 ml grow 1 x 10 litre 70 ml bloom top up featured girl is coming to the end of preflower stretch not quite 2 inches last night Day6 featured she's just on 34 inches going too building phase 1 x 10 litre 70ml grow 1 x 10 litre 70ml bloom top up last day of this week featured girls on 35 inches pre flower growth virtually over now 1 x 10 litre 70 ml grow 1 x 10 litre 70 ml bloom
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Grow Questions
Harrythehat
Harrythehatstarted grow question 5 years ago
Is 11 weeks start to finish including 5 days germination on AK420
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Fruitgrower
Fruitgroweranswered grow question 5 years ago
Breeders estimate is always just that an estimate. I find most strains take a couple of weeks longer than suggested. And you will have to make that judgement later on.
Harrythehat
Harrythehatstarted grow question 5 years ago
When does an auto go into flower have heard its after the 7th set of branches appear?
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OutForReal
OutForRealanswered grow question 5 years ago
I have heard many things about it too , so I've heard the 7th set of branches things , I've heard it's when the roots are hitting the bottom of the pot and start to settle the plant will flower soon. What I've experiment makes me says that autos are not on the same "line" when it comes to flowering , some are flowering pretty quick and some are giving you the time to train them , it's mostly genetic to me ( depending on the photoperiodic used for the cross )
Harrythehat
Harrythehatstarted grow question 5 years ago
used to NL feminised these would give a show of 2nd flush trichomes wait for them to die off then harvest DO Autoflowers do the same. or 1 long flush been waiting for them but nothing yet. Only 2 of plants on 11 weeks app finish. harvest will go over 4/5 weeks by the looks of it
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OutForReal
OutForRealanswered grow question 5 years ago
@Shagrath, Is right , you must talk about pistols ( hairs , visible at 1st sight ) and the trichomes ( so small that you need a x40 magnifier to see if they are clear , cloudy or amber ). He is also right about the fact that you can have a 1st load of white pistols that are getting brown before you can see a second load of white pistols that will again turn brown. On the contrary the trichomes are 1st clear , then are turning cloudy/white and are finishing their life brown/amber
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Shagrath
Shagrathanswered grow question 5 years ago
Do you mean the white pistils that turn brown? Then again new wave of pistils come and this happens for couple times before everything's ready? I don't think that trichomes will die off 'cos they just form and mature. They will mature in different times but never should they die If you mean the white hairs (Pistils) then yes I think autos would follow the same growing pattern probably.
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Harrythehat
Harrythehatanswered grow question 5 years ago
Got my wording wrong to what you are used to my apologies. i call it a flush of trichomes on northern lights you would get a first lot of trichomes, these would die off then a second set of trichomes thicker than the first would appear do autos follow the same was what i was asking
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Harrythehat
Harrythehatstarted grow question 5 years ago
what do you do when you get a mutant gonna enjoy smoking her for sure
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OutForReal
OutForRealanswered grow question 5 years ago
I am taking pictures while waiting for the harvest . That mutation will not affect the taste , the effect , the yield or anything important for us growers. So don't worry and continue to take pictures of that mutation to show them to us
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Med_in_Tropic
Med_in_Tropicanswered grow question 5 years ago
Polyploid flowers! People intentionally modified plants to have extra set of chromosomes. More flowers, grow faster, and resist desirable. I would feed her a little more than usual and look out for mold as the mug is a bit more dense. Also lay off seaweed.
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Harrythehat
Harrythehatstarted grow question 5 years ago
One for you breeding guys using feminised seeds i always get two distinctly different plants different shape smell and taste Now with an autoflower as well i suspect two different plants coming from the same seed throw back in genetics. Either way handy if you get bored with one.
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OutForReal
OutForRealanswered grow question 5 years ago
I'm a pollen chunker who know things about breeding ( I am doing some personal crosses ) . So each time you are growing the same strain you get 2 phenotyoes , it can happens when the palnt has not been stabilised enough , for example my pineaple express were all the same , my critical kush from barney's looks like every seeds is growing the same phenotype , but when I grew some amnesia I had many shapes , smells , and style o buds depending on each plants. So you can end up with similar plants if the strain is stable or differents style of plants if the strain is not. New growers and old growers can tell the same thing , sisters have genes in common but are not sharing the same genetic code or they would be twins , as long as they are not twins they are not similar , and are actually NOT THE EXACT SAME GENETIC , it's the exact same cross but not the exact same genes or you would not have any PHENOTYPES you would only have a TYPE which would have been the same for every plants from a same strain but it's not like that. The only way to have a stable genetic is to bring it to the F7 but at that generation ( the 7th generations ) you ca have plants that are 99% the same due to multiples crosses to keep a specific trait . Nowadays most of the strains are F1 or F3 , some are S1 which means self polinated and even with a self pollinated plant you are not sure to have a copy from your original plant but something close to. That said it's normal to see differents shape , siwe and smell on 2 plants from a same strain , the best exemple is the Cheese which is just a skunk phenotype ( is a cheese sharing the same exact genetics as the skunk ? NO ) With autos the plants are sharing the same ancestors ( a photo and an auto ) , but mostly after 3 generation which is enough to get something stable but not enough to get something super similar from a plant to another like a inbreed line ( more than F7 ) or a F7 stabilised strain. So to say it the simple way , you'll always have differents phenotypes even with stabilised strains , that said many companies are talling you how many phenotypes you can expect to find and which one is the one to hunt for
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Darkwarsongs
Darkwarsongscommentedweek 35 years ago
Good job! you don't really need me to tell you that though. Iv'e met lots of "old school" growers in my neck of the woods and they are some funny folks.. I totally understand that you've been doing this for years but if you think you can't improve or learn. Then your actually missing out and not anyone else... that being said I was super curious about your nutrients because you mentioned somewhere in your plethora of answering questions that a ph of 4-9 was okay or something ridiculous like that.. I was honestly like who the hell is this guy? Then I see your using cheater nutrients :).... Lol Ph is actually a really big deal if your not using something that will balance itself. I appreciate where your coming from dude I really do... But I think your speaking out of turn at times and actually giving people bad information. I think people are losing respect for you at times.. But then I see this and you earned it back... But it's not like I'm blown away.. Show love dude, for soil growers, for coco growers and for all Cannabis growers. Where in God's Name do you live( don't answer obviously if not comfortable)??? I tried to find that product your using online and could only find it at a ridiculous price, like 300 a gallon. Happy growing dude..
Harrythehat
Harrythehatcommented5 years ago
@@Darkwarsongs,as stated still wont change things will it? there is still a far bigger range than what makes people worry and when they come up with problems there inside this range. showing problems are most probably elsewhere and not in P.H.
Harrythehat
Harrythehatcommented5 years ago
@@Darkwarsongs,LOL still wont change what i or others do we could argue the toss all day long, there's so much say this some much say that, shall we just beg to differ am happy with what i do are you?
Harrythehat
Harrythehatcommented5 years ago
@@Darkwarsongs,willing to listen and read a hellova lot P.H. may/may not make a difference in soil P.H matters not in hydro well my hydro anyway a bit of text this is from soil. The recommended substrate pH for cannabis (Cannabis sativa) varies widely. A recommended substrate pH of 6.0 to 6.5 often is cited as the standard. However, we have observed pH ranges between 4.0 and 5.0 or greater than 7.0 during our visits to commercial greenhouses growing cannabis. https://www.cannabisbusinesstimes.com/article/new-research-results-optimal-ph-for-cannabis/ people may pick up on P.H. and since its drummed into them it has to be HERE. they determine thats the root of there problems. BUT it aint!! problems arise from to many multiples a lot of the time and people doing dum ass things
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testing223
testing223commentedweek 05 years ago
e😬😃😂😁😀
Darkwarsongs
Darkwarsongscommentedweek 85 years ago
52 days and that is one sad bud. But I think you can see that.. maybe not I don't know. You kind of set yourself up for failure in a big way and I am just trying to pass advice to help you if you'd be willing to listen. But your a pretty stubborn guy so I don't know you'll probably just be like F--- that guy. If you would've grown half the plants you did and put them every second hole... You would've DOUBLED or tripled your end results.. Your plants are all root bound yes this is possible in hydro the water keeps circulating so your plants look healthy they just stop growing... So you put plants every second hole. That's what Iv'e seen other more experienced growers using pipes do. So from the very start of this grow you didn't really have the proper plant position to allow your ladies to thrive. Take it or leave it but I know I am correct and have an awesome day and happy growing 😁 Ask the community they will tell you .. with your setup you will get way more with 20 then you did with 40.
Harrythehat
Harrythehatcommented5 years ago
@@Darkwarsongs,Psst there stacking now may have been conservative @ 50 though i dont like to be liberal Braggart and why kept it low
Harrythehat
Harrythehatcommented5 years ago
@@Darkwarsongs, Glad about that cos nothing u say makes sense or what you found can compare to my equipment
Harrythehat
Harrythehatcommented5 years ago
@@Darkwarsongs,M8 you are one sad twat you have picked on 2 tomatoe growing systems and a bubbler the two tomatoe systems will give you root rot and the bubbler has no chance your stacked with jealousy fella
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berserker1
berserker1commentedweek 165 years ago
Looking wierd there! Do autos always have that longer flowering time with little fattening of buds? Or do you think it's the strain? Was going to try hydro but now I don't know.
Harrythehat
Harrythehatcommented5 years ago
@berserker1, Auto's flower and grow when the fuck they like there an unruly bunch my hydro system brings out differences as you can see LOL add up how many kilos wet has been harvested and there's still 24 plants to go then decide whether your hydro or soil Enjoy I am
Wicked_Stix
Wicked_Stixcommentedweek 35 years ago
My autos have been flowering at around 6 to 8 weeks in hydro. The amount of nodes doesn't have any bearing on when they hit flower.
Harrythehat
Harrythehatcommented5 years ago
@Wicked_Stix,thanks was going to ask what causes them to turn but search and yea shall find. Been doing a bit of reading. there a odd combo thats for sure. plants are still showing the traits of leafs dropping close to lights off time https://www.autoflowering-cannabis.com/complete-autoflowering-plant-grow-guide/ bit of reading if it interests
CRiSPrGrow
CRiSPrGrowcommentedweek 25 years ago
hey there, welcome to GD, you look like you know whatcha doing lol eyeballing pH that's legit mastery
Harrythehat
Harrythehatcommented5 years ago
@CRiSPrGrow, Hi Yah its not me its the equipment because of how it works P.H. remains very stable nutrient is self P.H Ing using what it says on bottle takes it to around 7. e.C of 2.0 it runs sweet asa nut have used it many years 10 litres of water in a bucket 70ml of nutrient mixes when filling bucket turn it into tank nutrient top up done, hate too much fuss and bother LOL shelved it in 2007 now with the world changing re released it in its commercial form once it gets going will release home units as well
ShotGunBob
ShotGunBobcommentedweek 95 years ago
Looking good💚😊Check my grows out if you like.
Mrs_Larimar
Mrs_Larimarcommentedweek 65 years ago
https://www.growweedeasy.com/search-results?keyword=SCROG on youtube a re nice videos about supercropping too
Macgorila
Macgorilacommentedweek 25 years ago
Nice set up mate 👍