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NL Auto - First Grow

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Auto Northern Lights Custom Breeder & Strain
FLO
LED / 150W
Custom
VEG
LED / 230W
Custom
Fox Farm
Nutrients
LST
weeks 5,6
Photos & Videos
Grow Conditions
Week 9
Flowering
18 hrs
Light Schedule
25
°F
°C
Day Air Temperature
77
°F
°C
Day Air Temperature
6.5
pH
48%
Air Humidity
Strong
Smell
24
°F
°C
Solution Temperature
75
°F
°C
Solution Temperature
23
°F
°C
Substrate Temperature
73
°F
°C
Substrate Temperature
18
°F
°C
Night Air Temperature
64
°F
°C
Night Air Temperature
2.91
gal
l
Pot Size
11
gal
l
Pot Size
33.02
inch
cm
Lamp To Plant Distance
13
inch
cm
Lamp To Plant Distance
0.13
gal
l
Watering Volume Per Plant Per 24h
0.5
gal
l
Watering Volume Per Plant Per 24h
Nutrients
Commented by Penguin Penguin
2 years ago

Day 57, didn't upload anything as nothing had changed.

Day 58, still no noticeable changes to her but gave her a pH 6 drink. QB still hasn't arrived but hoping soon. The temps here have turned very pleasant and the tent stays between 21 and 25 throughout the day and night. My humidity also stays under 50% which is nice. Ordered a PPM meter, more pH calibration solution and some new soil for the next grow after this one. Ordered some "Super soil" mix that apparently should cover the first 2 months of nutes. Fully prepared to make the next grow a good one after the learning experience on this. I managed to source 5 RQS Diesel Autos and 5 RQS Royal Madre Fotos (I guess the guy only had stock of the older seeds as he listed it by that name and not the Mother Gorilla that I wish it was). I also have the random bagseed growing in the tent with this NL Auto still in Veg but it showed sex this week and turned out to be female. I was using it to practice HST and attempted to FIM / Top her so I will see how she grows and maybe finish her out before starting my next grow of the Diesel Autos, probably 2 at a time.

Day 59. Noticing a lot of the lower leaves are yellowing more than before. Not sure if this is at a normal rate or because of a deficiency. Bud sizes don't seem to be increasing in size still but I am not expecting them too at this stage. I am hoping the yellowing is a normal process at this age and isn't happening too soon as she doesn't have a lot of them to spare if they start dropping off this quickly!

Day 60. Definitely noticing a lot of leaves starting to fade and die. I am not sure if I should be doing something to fix this or if its part of the natural cycle at this point in her life? Buds look like they are putting on some nice frost though and the smell is really strong now. I had got used to it because when I left the house for shopping and came back, I could smell her from downstairs. Need to invest in a filter but for now making sure the door is closed in the room with the tent seems to be working.

Day 61. Decided to give her a watering today as she was looking a bit droopy. My PPM meter still hasn't arrived so I am unable to check the runoff at this point but hopefully the soil isn't still too hot for her. Also waiting for the loupe to arrive to check trichs but from my best attempts to zoom in on them, they still look to have a fair ways to go.

Day 62. She's still chugging along. Haven't noticed any new issues or changes to her today since watering yesterday. Temps got a bit cold last night and the tent dropped to 18c from its usual 21c at night. Doesn't seem to have bothered her too much though. QB arrived today! Swapped out the noisy hot blurple for this 150W QB. Currently running it on 100W as I am not sure if the shock between the 230W actual draw blurple to 150W QB would stress the girl out too badly. Already have to say the light coming off this thing feels "cleaner" somehow and its a beauty for taking pictures with. In love already and can't wait to get the next one going. I have a bag seed in veg in the same tent as the auto that I was planning on flowering after she is done, I think the QB on this intensity might fry her though?

Day 63. She has spent some time under the new QB and hasn't shown any visible signs of stress with the light sitting at 13" and 100W. I bumped the wattage up to 110 this morning and plan to do 10W more a day until at the full 150W. Gave her a watering today until about 10% runoff. Watered at 6.5 and the run off measured in at 6.6 so next watering I will go for a lower pH. Not sure how it's built up as I've been watering around 6 for a while. Will keep a close eye on her again after bumping the wattage and watering her. The bag seed seems to be perfectly happy with the change in lighting as well and hasn't shown any signs of stress yet. Also got my seeds today! Will likely grow one or two together, not sure which yet though and will wait for the bag seed to finish up. Will give her the whole tent for flowering to see what kind of yields it will pull. Anyone got experience with the strains Royal Madre or the Blue Cheese from RQS?

Grow Questions
Penguin week 3 started grow question 2 years ago
Nute burn or deficiency?
Does it look like she is suffering from nute burn in the most recent pictures?
Resolved
Plant. Other
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Afterglow answered grow question 2 years ago
@Penguin, actually, you should not worry about anything. Really. This is your first grow. And for the first grow it looks better than my first experience. Do not give up and get upset. I will get yout first harvest.
Penguin week 7 started grow question 2 years ago
General concerns about the plant health and expectations from her.
Will nute burn have a big affect on my final yield? Are my buds likely to increase much in size? Leaves discolouring normal at this stage? Does she look likely to produce just popcorn bud at this point? Can I do anything about it? Also not many leaves on the plant?
Resolved
Buds. Not fattening
Buds. Other
Leaves. Tips - Burnt
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Wicked_Stix answered grow question 2 years ago
A little nute burn won't affect your yield, but you are starting to lose leaves. Those leaves are what process nutrients to feed your flowers so losing a lot of leaves will lower your yield and quality. Your buds do have the ability to get much larger if the issues you have are corrected. The leaf coloring is not normal at this stage. And yes fortunately you can correct this and get her turned around. I saw that you just gave her a flush. This is definitely what she needed because I think your issues are from excess salts built up in your soil from all of the nutrients. After letting her dry out a lot then you want to feed only every third watering. So feed, water, water, repeat. This will help prevent nutrient and salts from building up around your roots. It also looks like your flowering stretch is about over so you want to back off the nitrogen as much as possible. The plant doesn't have much need for the grow big from here on. I would check out the fox farm feeding schedule and feed half the recommended dose on their chart every third watering. Also make sure you adjust the pH to around 6.5 to avoid other lockout problems. This should clear up your issues. Good luck finishing up your grow!
Penguin week 8 started grow question 2 years ago
Just ordered a 150W Quantum Board, can I swap my Blurple UFO mid grow to the new board? Is it possible to increase flower size this late into a grow?
My Blurple apparently uses 230W actual draw but is advertised as 600W. If that 230W value is correct, does that suggest my new, much more expensive QB is not as good? Will it make a difference to the plants health? What are the benefits from the QB? Thanks!
Resolved
Buds. Other
Setup. Strain - Autoflowering
Setup. Lighting
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OutForReal answered grow question 2 years ago
I have a 150w quantum board from a chiness seller , it's a 3500k with UV and IR , it was supposed to replace my 2 50w ufo "burple" light that was just fine for flowering.
But I decided to plug both my quantum and my ufo's and the result is amazing because the "burple" light are bringing more blue to the spectrum that is giving me short internodes (except when I choose a high distance between the lights ans the plants , then it is stretching ) and the plant are shorter but bushier and like I said if you put the light higher then you will work on the height.

Stop talking bout me : What is the nenefits of a QB ? Better spectrum and basiclu the real full spectrum compared to the purple light ( mostly blue and red ) , they are producing less heat than the other light without using fans for heat disssipation which leans they are noiseless and the fact that they are emitting less heat can allow them to be placed lower in height. The QB are made of a lot of little leds that covers a bigger "area" than the others boards and so a better light repartition than a COB or a HPS that are more efficient in the middle than in the corners ( the light will reach the corners of the box easily ).
The QB wattage is also ALWAYS the real draw compared to the purple light so what you ordering is what you get.

It will make a difference to the plants health ( to me ) as the spectrum is a higher quality one with the QB and the light repartition is more efficient
Penguin week 9 started grow question 2 years ago
Deficiencies at Day 60 or natural, expected fade?
Does my girl look like she is suffering from a deficiency or is it a normal fade for day 60 since sprouting? What can I do as she definitely has a while to finish I feel? Any estimates on how much longer she has before getting close to chop? See most recent comment for details.
Resolved
Leaves. Dropping off
Leaves. Color - Yellow
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OGgrows answered grow question 2 years ago
Hi @Penguin it seems to me over-fertilization, phosphorus or potassium. there are certainly 2-3 weeks to go before it is ready, the buds will still get quite fat, wait about 5/6 days to feed it only with water, you can give a fattening booster and after a few days start making flush. good luck mate :+1:
Penguin week 10 started grow question 2 years ago
First time testing PPM and slightly panicked :c
Runoff was at 2200PPM. I flushed her with 5L of pH 5.8 water. I got the runoff to 1000PPM where I left it. The pH was at 7 though and was higher than before the flush. Why is that? I always pH before watering. Also, is the flush going to cause trouble for her? I kind of panicked.
Resolved
Setup. Substrates
Feeding. Chemical composition
Feeding. Other
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Removed answered grow question 2 years ago
Hi there. First of all, according to your posts, you are growing in soil, so the pH should be between 6.0 and 7.0, not 5.8. Secondly, soil will buffer your pH, which is why our run off is higher. Third, soil runoff of 2200 PPM is quite low, rich soil mixes can have a run off as high as 10.000 PPM (I'm talking from experience); as the plant consumes the soil nutrients, the run off will drop weekly. If you flush the soil, you could end up with soil devoid of any nutrient for the plant to take in.
Penguin week 10 started grow question 2 years ago
Optimal harvest time?
Optimal time to harvest? I can see a few amber trichomes but find it hard to tell the clear and cloudy apart in my best effort pictures. I'd love a stronger head high with couchlock being a secondary trait I'm looking for. Can I achieve this by harvesting at a certain time?
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Other. Harvest - Drying
Other. Other
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rhodes68 answered grow question 2 years ago
Well you want fewer amber trics at the expense of having some clear still around.
Looks like another week, still more clear than one would like on board.
If you are already in flush you timed it well. If not now would be good
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Comments
Afterglow
Afterglow week 9

everything is going as I predict ))) Congrats with new lamp.

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Penguin
Penguin

@Afterglow, thanks for the info again, I'll keep this in mind going forward. She is showing heavy signs of yellowing that I suspect is N deficiency. Again not sure how serious this is at this point in the growth cycle but I'll upload pictures shortly. Peace

Afterglow
Afterglow

@Penguin, and always use formula:
PPM up / PH down: decrease the dose of nutritions
PPM down / PH up: increase the dose of nutritions
PPM stay / PH up: keep it going, everything is right

Afterglow
Afterglow

@Penguin,

1. You will never change PH of soil by flushing with pure water, even with corrected PH. It is always bad idea to give pure water in coco-soil. Always add nutritions but with low concentration.
2. PPM on your stage should be not over 1000 US PPM (there is also EC PPM) in drainage.
3. To decrease PPM in drainage - just give half of nutritions you gave previously.
4. To encrease of decrease PH - use coefficient 1.2, but not lower 5.5 and higher 7.0 for the final result. For example your drainage shows 7.1 PH. 7.1/1.2 = 5.9. Or shows 5.7 and you want higher: 5.7 * 1.2 = 6.9. After two days PH in drainage will correct.

northernMike
northernMike week 9

Hey how goes the battle:sunglasses:
Plants look good:+1:
I harvested a northern lights auto, took 81 days from sprout to harvest, turned into some descent smoke:ok_hand:
I found this strain to be very fussy, needed lots of time to recover from LST, topping and defoliation.
Luck and Grow Big!!

northernMike
northernMike

@Penguin,Hey good morning
Most autos will finish between 60-90 days, there are some that take longer.
Depends on how much stress the plant goes through early on in veg.
My northern lights auto, also my first one took 81 days form sprout.
Rule of thumb for autos is less is more, check out my diaries, I did a lot better in my second grow, but had a lot of help from the people on GROW DIARIES:+1::+1::+1:
everything is an experiment
Later!!

Penguin
Penguin

@northernMike, Hey! Thanks for the comment man. This is my first grow so I am doing lots wrong and learning from it (hopefully). I think my girl has been really patient with me so far but as of a few days ago I am starting to get some fading on the leaves and I am unsure if its a natural fade which is expected late in a grow or if its too early as she definitely looks like she has a ways to go before getting close to harvest. What do you think? How much did you manage to yield from yours? Mine is looking very light on the bud front sadly but its all for experience. My next grow was supposed to be a couple more autos but just found out the seller of the seeds ran out so I am going with some foto periods instead. Hopefully the learning curve won't be too steep coming from an auto!

RussianGrower
RussianGrower week 9

Greetings from Russia! They look very good, keep up the good work

Penguin
Penguin

@RussianGrower, Thank you man and greetings from Brazil! Your grows look great. Hoping grow number 2 gets close to looking like your ones!

Removed
Removed week 9

For autos? Yes, actually stop feeding and flush.

Penguin
Penguin

@Athos, You think I should only flush with pH'd from now on then? I was expecting a good few more weeks from her due to size and bud development tbh. I have given just pH'd water the last couple times though. If you think I should flush then I probably will. Waiting for a jewelers loup to arrive this week so i can better see the trichs too