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MaxGrow No.1 - Denial and Error

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LED/96W
Cheapy octopus 24W
HST
weeks 11
ScrOG
weeks 5-17
Topping
weeks 3
LST
weeks 4
Main-Lining
weeks 4
Defoliation
weeks 6-10, 12
Strain
00seeds2 - 00 KUSH
Ayahuasca Purple
Barney's Farm
Growing it
Easy
Resistance
Strong
The plants put up with my abuse. I would call that good enough😊
The Outcome
Week 17
Harvest
What's on the scales?
290
gram
ounce
Bud dry weight
What's on the scales?
1100
gram
ounce
Bud wet weight
Harvested
2
Number of plants harvested
Grow Room
0.84
ft²
Grow Room size
1.18
g / watt
345.24
g / m²
145
g / plant
2.38
plant / m²
292.86
watt / m²
Tastes like
Cream
Pungent
Tropical
Feels like
0% Sativa 100% Indica

Positive effects

Hungry
Relaxed
Sleepy

Negative effects

Dry eyes
Nutrients
Using canna going forward, for a bit. Cant tell you if this pk boost helped not. It is very potent compared to other flower boosters I've seen.
Lights
At the time of purchase you couldn't beat it! Very impressed with Mars! I would love to see some new affordable lights with the current tech.
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MaxGrowCanada MaxGrowCanada
4 years ago
First things first! Big thanks to Barneys Farm! Amazing genetics, unkillable weeds! This strain yields frosty, beautiful looking buds, even when grown by an amateur. Additional numbers: Weirdo 50g A grade               80g B grade               100g trim Plant two 120g A grade                    30g B grade                    20g trim When I say "A" grade, it is relative to the plant it was from, not some market representation.  I would say only the "A" grade from weirdo is sell-able where as both A & B of plant 2, I would buy. Total dry weight could be considered closer to 200g if you factor in the above. All measurements were rough as I started consuming.(forgot to include the water cure aswell) The short: Went into my first grow ever with full head of steam! Sometimes that's a bad thing. What can I say, I am one who often likes to overcomplecate everything I do, growing cannabis is no exception.  a few rookie mistakes, a reliability issue  with my pump, and alot of denial and error later and here we are. The two plants were obviously two separate phenotypes from the early days, the plant I have named weirdo has always been weird.. She decided to self polinate due to stress, lighting, combination of everything🤷‍♂️ it's been a rough life. I was worried weirdo wouldnt yeild useable bud right up untill harvest day. I am glad I was wrong. As for plant two, I am happy with yeild and quality. She did produce seeds, but only a gram of good fem seeds. Weirdo has some micro seeds throughout, maybe a crackle or two per bowl, nothing horrible. I wont call the smoke amazing, but better than I am used too, so I'm happy. I wont report taste, quality or anything really as I didn't do this strain justice. The long: Let's start with setup; Lighting: My ts1000, great little light. Wall draw:154w @121vac Board draw: 118w When I bought it, for the price I payed, I really do think it was the star of the show. Decent efficiency and price even now adays. The PAR map they offer for this device is accurate, as far as I can tell. Highly recommended, buy goggles! Thanks Mars Hydro! Other than that, those octopus light things are fairly efficient aswell, the caveat being you need a metric ton of them to produce anything decent. They draw about 24w each, before the driver. They produce about 100k lux @3000k at contact with the plastic cover.  I may use them in my new room, one per plant for veg or something. Alot more LED enginerding to come😬 The nitty gritty: I started out measuring ph, tds, the whole 9. I dont do that anymore..   My point here being, using RO water and a mild salt solution will, as far as hydroponics goes, be just fine. Ph is obviously important, but testing can be eliminated if you mix the same recipe. Even further, understanding how your nutrients affect your Ph is enough to keep your plants happy. That being said, a ph meter, at least, is necessary to engineer that recipe. Ebb & Flow: Very good. Few things to consider, but good. When I go at this again, in the near future, I believe we can take full advantage of what this method has to offer. If you want a low maintenance system, intend to leave it for weeks at a time, then this may be for you. I went into it backwards. I wanted some sort of flood system that would take advantage of large surface area for root development and chose my medium poorly. Rockwool cube are an amazing product and work wonders when used properly. Using rockwool in conjunction with my surface area root mat approach lead to overwatering. I would use netpots and lay them flat on the tray in hindsight. I will revisit that one day, diversity for now. Carbon dioxide: Has it done anything to my yeild🤷‍♂️ Hard to say, a lot of variables involved. My understanding is, co2 can increase metabolic rates to a certain extent as long as equivalent light and temperature are provided. My belief in co2 comes from minimal research into the carboneferous period where ferns grew 100ft tall(30m), largely in part to the high co2 concentration in the atmosphere. The global  ambient co2 levels are well over 400ppm and I can easily keep my room at 200% these levels at the cost of about 200g of citric acid and baking soda monthly. I will continue with this "ghetto" approach, for now. Food: One thing I learned, most of us overfeed. Keeping in mind, testing has all been done with one strain, on 6 plants, the threshold between under and overfeed is a massive line. Your plants can have everything they need with half the salt concentration required to show signs of stress, maybe less. These are "weeds", after all. I will be doing "minimal feed" experiments to see how efficiently I can deliver the salt to the plants. So far, I'm seeing on par growth with 1/20 the concentration I started with. Another thing i did not consider going into this grow, the chemistry in a hydroponic reservoir is alot more complex than it seems. Many of the elements required by the plant have to be in a very volatile state to be readily available to the roots. Simply put, your reservoir is one giant mix of many chemical reactions that cause your food to deteriorate or be locked away from the plant. Less food, more water changes seems to be the way to go. Looking into efficient ways to drain to waste because of this. Vivosun: Yeah they deserve a sub title. I have purchased 8 things from vivosun, mostly rebranded Chinese crap but I am very impressed with literally everything I've bought. The 3x3 tent is high quality, no plastic corner pieces. Other things worthy of note are that they are my goto because of their availability though amazon and low low prices. Thanks Vivosun! I will probably add more detail as the days go on.
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Grow Questions
MaxGrowCanada
MaxGrowCanadastarted grow question 4 years ago
Any tips with flood and drain, rockwool or scrog would be greatly appreciated😀
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Setup. Other
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Animatey
Animateyanswered grow question 4 years ago
Hi there! One thing I notice is that your light looks very close for such young plants. The manufacturer recommends 24 inches above seedlings, and in my opinion that's still pretty close. I'd try to put it at 30 inches above them to start and I would guess they will perk up. When doing flood and drain with rockwool you either need to flood to the top of the block, or do a manual top feed to waste once a week. This is because salts will build up in the block at the flood line and need to be washed out once a week. Last year I did a flood and drain grow with 6 inch pargro rockwool cubes and even in flower I only flooded once a day. I think you need to let those cubes dry out more so that roots fill the blocks when dryback occurs. After the plants fully root into the cubes it will be harder to overwater them. Good luck!
MaxGrowCanada
MaxGrowCanadastarted grow question 4 years ago
What should I do about this kink? It appears to be a pinch point. I intend to scrog. Do I right the stem? Or let it grow 10degrees out? I would like it to be vertical for scrogging, however I do not want to retard growth. Plant is small as it is. Beginning to lignify, do I stop?
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Athos
Athosanswered grow question 4 years ago
Let it be. If you try to "rectify" it, you are likely to kill or at least severely harm the plant.
MaxGrowCanada
MaxGrowCanadastarted grow question 4 years ago
I want to clone the lowest two branches, to have acess to my tray. I plan to scrog with two main branches and use off-branches to fill my triangle. Will the two branches be able to fill how I have planned? Can I clone those branches without stressing the plant too much?
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Techniques. ScrOG
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Athos
Athosanswered grow question 4 years ago
Yes you can do both. It will just take a bit longer for the 2 branches to fill the canopy, but it can be done.
MaxGrowCanada
MaxGrowCanadastarted grow question 4 years ago
Damnit. Day 29 of flower showing dual sex on one plant. I have read and understand the basics, looking to see what you guys think. I can't feasibly separate the plants and I cant think of any cause. I did give them 34 hours of dark but that was 4 weeks ago. Advice?
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Jef79
Jef79answered grow question 4 years ago
Hello.. Hope you are well..thats a real shame.. Ur girls look nice and healthy!.. Ive never heard of giving plants a stretched nite period to force flowers or anything tbh.. Personally i wudnt try this technique again as this may have bin the cause of the stress n why she hermed?? .. Just keep ur eyes on her and try to pick off as many male pods as u can see.. If numbers are low u can get away with low chances of finding seeds in ur grinder.. If she/he starts to produce alot of them then i wud say to cut him out completely and let ur other plant benefit from space n sole use of lite.. U dont want both plants full of seed n no buds of weed.. Check her 2-3times a day if possible.. Stay safe n gud luck with your garden.. 👍🍀
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Animatey
Animateyweek 7
Solid system 👍 Topping up with plain water, letting pH drift and flushing weekly sounds like a recipe for success! Plants looking great 👌
Animatey
Animatey
@MaxGrowCanada, haha I remember mentioning the top feed once a week but the other stuff is a really good idea as well👍 great job so far, looking forward to seeing the rest of it play out!
MaxGrowCanada
MaxGrowCanada
@Animatey, All based on some kind words of wisdom I received early on😬 Thanks again!👌
Animatey
Animateyweek 17
Nice job bud, great harvest!!!
MaxGrowCanada
MaxGrowCanada
@Animatey, Thanks alot😊 now to make the quality match the numbers!
Complicate
Complicateweek 17
Well done, looks great!
MaxGrowCanada
MaxGrowCanada
Mongo28
Mongo28week 5
Looking really nice. I dig your clone machine as well. Great stuff!
MaxGrowCanada
MaxGrowCanada
@Mongo28, Thanks! Cloner is a disposable salad container😅 some times you gotta piss with the c*** you got🤷‍♂️
Rheaun
Rheaunweek 4
Very good, interesting first grow you have going here. A few things I noticed: -Your humidity is too low, look into how VPD affects plant growth. - I say you need releasable clips to fasten stems to that net; look at Week 5 of my EasyBud diary you'll see small clips I used. -Your net will be a learning exp. You risk having the plant push it up later in flower. If you remove the net later, you lose the spread of colas. -You have to recalibrate meters often and Rockwool makes ph rise quite a bit.
MaxGrowCanada
MaxGrowCanada
@@@Rheaun, Thanks for your comment Unfortunately my humidity is at the mercy of the elements for now, good news is spring has sprung and it's on the rise. I will be able to hold it at 55 soon. Bag clips huh, what about weaving? Also, if I have to anchor or support from the top later on I will do so. I dont intend on having this net removable. Once the branches are woven, shes in place till harvest. I am following lbh's famous scrog tutorial🙌 cheers
Grey_Wolf
Grey_Wolfweek 3
@MaxGrowCanada Good luck mate I put in an answer for ya
MaxGrowCanada
MaxGrowCanada
@Grey_Wolf, Thanks alot!👍
Psilocubensis
Psilocubensisweek 3
Amazing setup, i love to see growers playing around with ideas and techniques!!! Wish to see a time lapse of flood, if you could, please!! And I do give a suggestion to you, Calcium carbonate, easy to find and pretty useful as Calmag on Hydro! Wish you a great grow!! I'll be following! Have a Shroom!1!!!!!1 🙌
MaxGrowCanada
MaxGrowCanada
@Psilocubensis, I am new after all, let's hope it doesnt crash and burn🙄 I'll get a lapse for you in a week or so as the tarp is to low currently. For now, ill upload what I have. Cheers and thanks for stopping by 😃
Bouleuss
Bouleussweek 7
Congratulations on the new baby. She looks good at first. Choose a good variety. Pour a treat. Keep doing what you are doing and have the growing ganja gods protect your women until the growth is complete.
MadeInGermany
MadeInGermanyweek 6
Nice Plant bro 😎
Athos
Athosweek 4
Let it be. If you try to "rectify" it, you are likely to kill or at least severely harm the plant.
Athos
Athosweek 4
Yes you can do both. It will just take a bit longer for the 2 branches to fill the canopy, but it can be done.