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kaneownz kaneownz
5 years ago
This wee was relatively uneventful in the garden. Got some beautiful new growth with some questionable formation on the older lower leaves. Some of the leaves seem to be deformed or not filling out quite properly. I believe I need to tone down the watering a bit. I used a full drinking water bottle the first time and got each pot very wet. It took about 5 days to dry out about a inch down. I decided to water with 3/4 the amount this time around. I noticed some fungus nats hanging around due to the standing water in the trays under the pots. I have yet to have my first full day of not looking in on the girls haha. I am also needing to refill the humidifier daily. The stocks still seem very thin compared to all the other people I keep reading about in their diaries. The girls seemed to have taken the initial mistaken feeding pretty well but please anyone please chime in if you see anything I can be improving on.
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Tikihoofd
Tikihoofdcommentedweek 15 years ago
Goodluck man, following along right here! ;)
Tikihoofd
Tikihoofdcommented5 years ago
@Belgiums_basement_budz, Do so, I just found it on the interwebs :D groeten!
Belgiums_basement_budz
Belgiums_basement_budzcommented5 years ago
@Tikihoofd,maat,ik wil uwe foto ook als foto zetten 🤣😂 💪🏻
LAzerBEAN
LAzerBEANcommentedweek 15 years ago
off to a good start. really awesome lights!!
LAzerBEAN
LAzerBEANcommented5 years ago
@wreckbeast, yeah. slight, slight breeze will strengthen the stems but as far as a squat stature goes you'll have to turn up the dimmer (or lower) the light more.
wreckbeast
wreckbeastcommented5 years ago
@LAzerBEAN, I am a new grower as well... I set up a fan to barely agitate my seedlings, hoping this will keep them squat. Do you think that will help?
LAzerBEAN
LAzerBEANcommented5 years ago
@kaneownz, you will get some stretch once in a while in seedlings. just like you said, bury it if you need too. after about ten days or so you should see some roots (which you are starting too). go ahead and transplant.
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Shooey
Shooeycommentedweek 25 years ago
Hey mate,, I think less is more in these early stages and it is easy to overdo it. Definitely too early for full strength feeds,, but they are well established for seedlings and will be fine. Get through a couple more weeks before ramping up feeds. 🍻
DeaneR
DeaneRcommented5 years ago
@kaneownz, Nothing wrong with looking in on the girls😉. Someone once said, the best thing to see in your garden is your own shadow.
Shooey
Shooeycommented5 years ago
@kaneownz, too easy Kane,, it’s a great hobby and you always shower them with attention in the early stages. This site is the perfect learning platform. Growers are friendly and usually happy to pass on advice. Some guys that really got me going and are still helping me all the time are @Mrs_Larimar , @Grey_Wolf and @Med _in_Tropic . Their experience is key to success and their diaries are very well detailed. 🍻
kaneownz
kaneownzcommented5 years ago
@Shooey, thank you so much for the advice! Youre very right.. way too early for the feed. I got eager as a first timer and def over did it. They seem to be fine now but Im struggling with not over-watering i know theres a fine line between dry out period. Im still working towards my first full day of not looking at the girls lol
Belgiums_basement_budz
Belgiums_basement_budzcommentedweek 15 years ago
Good luck on your first run! And yes she stretched a bit but don’t worry,put the lights a bit closer and she will stop stretching and when you put her in a pot put her e bit deeper And @ this stage a t5 with 6400k spectrum works very good only you need to put lights very close max height is about 12” if I’m not mistaken..further away and you lose a lot of power And I don’t think you can hold her for a month an a tiny root cube,give her some space to develop a nice root system I transplant from the moment I see the taproot so it can grow straight down in the pot Peace and good luck Definitely gone follow this grow
wreckbeast
wreckbeastcommented5 years ago
@kaneownz, Those seedlings won't survive at 40% rh, you gotta jack that up real quick. Grab an ultrasonic-type humidifer from any store. To control it, pickup an inkbird IHC -200 (you can also use this to control a dehumidifier for flower, but if youre humidity is always 40% thats not necessary). Set the humdifier it in your tent, and run the sensor for the humidifier in there as well. My Inkbird was way off on purchase, and I needed to calibrate it against my govee hygrometer. Now though, I just keep that humidifier full, and my rh stays within 2 points at all times. You can also use a dome that you mist the inner walls of, but i think you're gonna need humidification for the later stages anyways.
Belgiums_basement_budz
Belgiums_basement_budzcommented5 years ago
@kaneownz,I did some research on your set up and plans because I’m not familiar with us growstuff :D Your raymatix hamr is to far from your seedling ,in the product guide they recommend 18 inch This is probably your stretch problem Your leafs are curly and wavy because your rh is to low should be above 60 at minimum And try a humidifier with the lights on..rh raises automatically with lights off so I can imagine your tent was soaked :D Where do you keep your water bottle ? If direct light or sunlight can reach your water iron in the water starts to degrade or something like that,I don’t know the exact word 😅 Keep water stored away from light and sun. I use 300 l tank in my basement And jacks 321 looks like an awesome nutrient line for soil and coco so I don’t really know what to recommend.I'm curious about what you gonna choose and the outcome And a 1gal should be fine for e few weeks of veg And for the discoloring,don’t worry you don’t feed enough or something,a seedling has energy on it’s own to last a week.a transplant into your medium of choice waterd with a half dose of feeding should bring her right on track
kaneownz
kaneownzcommented5 years ago
@Belgiums_basement_budz, Thank you the advice already helped me out a lot. I know Im coming up on week 2 but figured I'd do a mini update in hopes on getting things back on track and if you arent able to follow my journal each week. My girls are def experiencing some trauma. Here are some issues I see (have pics if you have the time or interest): 1) Stretch: all are 3-4" tall and none have had their center leave fully pop out yet 2) Yellowing: The veins of the plants seem to be yellowing. The leaves seem to be lightening up from the center. The oldest seedling is even crisping on one end. 3) Pruiny / Wavy leaves (think like really wet fingers or bubbly type texture): almost looks like drying but not sure what this is. Not on all leaves but on the oldest and its starting from the center Environment: Lights: Raymatix HAMR lowest dim and 24" away (more cool spectrum but not a blue tint) RH: 40% Temp: 70-75F Water & Feed: Water with 3ml clones solution in water bottle (drinking spring water). Been keeping a dry out period in my opinion but subjective I know. Light: 18 on May be worth mentioning on the 4th night I tried a humidifier in the tent overnight and soaked the whole tent. Corrective plan of action: 1) T5 LED 6400k 18' light at 6-12' away 2) Let roots get more dry time Is there anything else I should be doing? At this point Im contemplating repotting into 1 gal and not wait 2 more weeks. I have Happy Frog soil or I can go with a coco coir mix I have. Planning to use Jacks 321 formula for the feed. If you arent able to get back to me now worries! Good notes for my next post lol
Belgiums_basement_budz
Belgiums_basement_budzcommentedweek 45 years ago
Hey bro don’t worry so much..it’s your first grow so you gonna make mistakes..in the past and the future,that’s the journey of growing 🤷‍♂️ But some advice is always handy eh 😁 you already spotted the fly’s and adjusted that so 👍🏻 If your pot takes 5 day’s to dry out it doesn’t mean you overwatered,if you overwatered her you will notice it when the leafs hang down and she really doesn’t look happy..my auto’s where planted directly in a 12l pot and I use 10% of the potsize at the start of the grow to feed or water them and in the beginning of the grow I can take up to 12 day’s in between waterings(depending on what light source you use..12 day’s was with led..hps or hotter fixtures dry out quicker and in full sun even more) and in full flower it can take up to 3l every day Best thing is to lift your pots after watering so you get a feeling of a full pot and a dry one..the important thing is you get a good wet dry cycle going on,your roots benefit from the oxygen you provide this way Your plants are smaller then others probably due to fact you kept them for 2 weeks in a rapid rooter,plant them once you see a root so it can start spreading and your ladies grow faster these first 2 weeks If you lose 2 weeks growth in the beginning they’ll always look smaller compared to other plants of the same age.i would compare them plants a bit younger than yours and see if the growth looks similar (just don’t compare India’s with Sativa’s 😅) But once more it’s your first grow,make mistakes and learn from them And most important of all enjoy growing 😉 Happy growing and stay safe ✌️🌱
Belgiums_basement_budz
Belgiums_basement_budzcommented5 years ago
@kaneownz,no problem we all had that feeling on the first run I think..I sure did 😂 but I didn’t had other diary’s to compare back then so didn’t noticed my slow growth 😂 I just add 2 more weeks of veg and in the end both my plants yielded 200+g each Feel free to contact me if you have more worry’s 😂 ✌️
kaneownz
kaneownzcommented5 years ago
@Belgiums_basement_budz, Thank you for being a voice of reason! Thats a very good point... 2 weeks of not feeding in the soil def could be part of the comparison issue Im reacting too. Im enjoying the process so far but as you can tell Im anxious! Thank you again for the kind words and the helpful advice.
DeaneR
DeaneRcommentedweek 35 years ago
Don't worry about some questionable formation on the older lower leaves ( I usually remove them once she is growing well ). Seedlings sometimes do this, and outgrow their awkwardness like most teens do. It is important to watch the new growth.
DeaneR
DeaneRcommented5 years ago
@kaneownz, Look at my comments in week 1 of Aztech Alice Nicole diary, and check out how she came back around. It took some time, but look at her flowering now!
kaneownz
kaneownzcommented5 years ago
@DeaneR, this def makes me feel more confident now thank you. For some reason everyones plants look perfect on the internet lol well most on this site seem like great seedlings. This is my first grow so lots of questions and concerns. Thanks again for dropping by. Im def checking out your diaries for some notes!
TeamQuality420
TeamQuality420commentedweek 35 years ago
Hey brother if you want you stem to get thicker drop your light closer to the plant . All that is happening is its growing upwards too quick . Happens all the time !😆 nice work !
TeamQuality420
TeamQuality420commented5 years ago
@kaneownz, I don't think you need that par meter . Put you hand over the top of the canopy if it burns your hand It is too Close. If your lights are too close your leaves will start turning away from the light. Are you using a C O B ?
kaneownz
kaneownzcommented5 years ago
@TeamQuality420, Thanks for the tip! Im honestly a bit hesitant messing with the light height and intensity on the dimmer. I think I mightve burned my girls a little in the first days lol. Ive honestly been looking into investing in the Apogee Par meters but they cost as much as each of the lights I just bought. Big investment but would really help me understand my lights and dial in my environment. Maybe I can just turn my dimmer up a but instead of dropping closer to them (currently at the lowest setting).
Seedtoweed
Seedtoweedcommentedweek 25 years ago
At this stage mate I'd say your girls are just settling in so to speak overall they look ok just keep up the rh watch the watering n they will be sweet
kaneownz
kaneownzcommented5 years ago
@Seedtoweed, Thank you!! Im a bit worried some wouldnt/wont make it but Im being hopeful. If you say they have a chance then Im confident lol Thanks for taking a look!
DaddyPrime
DaddyPrimecommentedweek 55 years ago
Bergmans plants are incredible. Ive been curious about his blue dream and gold leaf. Happy growing💚
blendmedmedman
blendmedmedmancommentedweek 45 years ago
KEEP GOING THEY LOOK GOOD AND ARE RIGHT WHERE THEY SHOULD BE NORMAL GROWTH!!!! What are you expecting the plants to do at this age? they are right where they should be, I think you should do the flip to flower soon so you should have room for the roots. when you go to flower that is where you will see more growth. the plants will stretch and fill in, during flower is when everything happens!
PrairieFrostGrow
PrairieFrostGrowcommentedweek 15 years ago
Doing well Dude........its time for the medium in my opinion. As soon as I see a root come out it goes into the medium.........unless cutting clones then I have waited to see more roots popping out. There is a learning curve with all this. There is a lot to learn about timing for nutes and lights at the different stages. A person really needs to go through this a couple of times to build your comfort level. In the end you will have some smoke to enjoy and it will make you smile because you grew it yourself and you know everything about what is in her😉😋 Your next run will be even better than this one and the after that will likely still better yields yet👍👊 Have a puff and enjoy the ride along the way👌..........Cheers fellow grower!!!!!
blendmedmedman
blendmedmedmancommentedweek 15 years ago
ok you will need to put some of your sprouts into bigger pots as the roots look good and are ready. so put them in bigger pots. remember to water about every 2-3 days. I go by weight of the pot when it is full of water/nutrients. another thing is when they start growing just leave them be as they will grow with out much effort. your job is to provide light/food/and air. the plants will take off. the best thing is to leave them be and your results of not doing much will surprise you .. good luck and happy growing. remember there is nothing like growing your own
MG2009
MG2009commentedweek 15 years ago
I've been curious about gold leaf for some time now, I will follow along👍