Green House Seed Co. Wonder Pie grow diary (journal) week13 by dalemac

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Peace to you and your family brother....😊 Unfortunately we live in a crazy world filled with many a fool but we'll stay strong and keep our heads up to the sky!! O Yes 🌞

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Growingkittencommentedweek 54 years ago

Looking good! 😺

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Northern_Entcommentedweek 164 years ago

Congrats on the nice harvest. I’m looking for clarification about the powders. I was sent the organic nutes (BioGrow and BioBloom) and I agree they’re great. The directions were a bit vague but I read it as you mix the BioGrow powder into the soil at the start. Soil concentrations are usually expressed in mg/kg and water is in units of mg/L so when the instructions were in units of g/L of substrate it seemed odd but correct. When blooming, you apply BioBloom as a top dressing on the soil, and maybe a second application a few weeks later for longer flowering strains. I get the impression some people like you and Mrs_Larimar mixed it in with the water. It’s apparent that both ways work, but I’m not clear on how you used it. The way I did it is almost zero extra effort beyond pHing the water but I find it hard to resist the urge to mix in some molasses too. Anyway, congrats and nice job. Oh, and do you like the debudder lid and does it also work on wet buds?

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dalemaccommented4 years ago

@Northern_Ent, My kit came with a 35 page "Product Guide" that seems to cover instructions for both their mineral and bio lines (everything). Page 15 in my guide is for hybrids in soil... which is or was me. It gives me the amount of grams of powder per gallon of fluid administered, for every week of the life of the plant. Part that threw me off was I looked at this chart and it says flush in week 10 of flowering - but my girls didn't last that long. It's possible I misjudged the start of flowering, and/or the heat wave we experienced advanced the age of the plants a week or two. I may mess with the bio line next year. I'm replacing some planters in my yard that are disintegrating from age, and I might just try growing a plant in a half wine barrel planter next year. But I'll have to think about how to tend to critters in containers that large (got all winter). It would make more sense to NOT be mixing stuff in with fluid regularly when you have to feed such a large container.

Northern_Entcommented4 years ago

@dalemac, maybe the instructions are different for the organic powders. Did the powders you used come with the concentrations needed in water, or did you calculate that? Maybe if you want easy you should try the organic powders next year. Mix with soil at start, and top dressing for bloom. Couldn’t be any easier really.

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dalemaccommented4 years ago

@Northern_Ent, Well if you're mixing me in with Mrs_Larimar I must be doing something right. 😉 But yes - I mixed this stuff directly with water. Can't help with soil application. I guess my "system" as it is is largely calibrated to how much a plant drinks. I start this early in the year...giving my girls increasing amounts of fluid until it starts to pool in the container I use to hold those fluids. Once I have a normal dose of daily fluid calculated (usually between 1.5 and 2 gallons) I can calculate how much powder to feed them and then you do that on an alternate feed/water schedule. One thing I did this summer was I used two days of water to every day of feeding - rather than a 50% ratio (recommended) - why? - because I feel it's always safer to err on the side of less nutrients to avoid nutrient burn. In the case at hand - specific math - I may not have gauged exactly when flowering started but there's not a whole lotta change going on in weeks 6-7 in the instructions, which say 1.9 grams of both hybrid powder AND booster per gallon of fluid. I did a lotta math early in the year because I wanted to use the powder with some other hybrids and I need to make sure I could make it to the end of the road with the original intentions. The "Feeding Schedule/Professional Grower" for hybrids doesn't indicate that plants need to be flushed until week 10 of flowering. I'm sorry but that's not even close with the weather we've been experiencing... it's advanced the age of most plants a couple weeks near as I can tell. I like the debudder - but I wouldn't bother with wet buds - not sure it would be worth the effort.

Mrs_Larimarcommentedweek 164 years ago

Crossing Fingers, for voting for the right President... iam even crossing my toes......

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Mrs_Larimarcommented4 years ago

@dalemac, I really cant imagine , seeing armed civil persons in the streets....... thats so strange for me

dalemaccommented4 years ago

@Mrs_Larimar, I kinda expect that there is a large reservoir of fireworks stashed away for this event. Last 4th of July during the pandemic was crazy. I just hope all the armed yahoo's looking for a revolution don't mistake the jubilation for something else. ✊ 😎

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Mrs_Larimarcommentedweek 164 years ago

Hi, after I saw your Pictures with the Trimbag, i was unpacking mine,,, and heyyyy hahaha putting the debudder on alid of a Bucket.........maaan i havent known that,,, loool.......... I tried the trimbag . but i think my weed was to wet to work...... So happy curing

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Mrs_Larimarcommented4 years ago

@dalemac,well i dont throw away any weed or sugarleaves , too. My newest " baby" is a wet trimmer--- i saw it last year and gave it a chance this year i show the function in my previous harvests ( i think it was " doctors choice" or doctors niagara.... Instead of 1,5 hours of trimming it took us 10 minutes.... i love that thing

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dalemaccommented4 years ago

@Mrs_Larimar, hehe... I actually have two TrimBags from two different contests here. I don't bother with it for autoflowers because they are generally a lot smaller than my summer photoperiod girls and trimming by hand isn't a big deal there. But you are correct in that the buds need to be more dry than I usually like to get them in order for the TrimBag to function properly. I tried it on a number of girls last summer and found a kinda sweet spot (I probably wrote this up in my biggest diary last summer, which would have been Double Amnesia). I think the manufacturer uses the term "crispy" when referring to preferred bud condition for using the bag. Thank god for Boveda. In the case of Wonder Pie here, I decided the buds on big girl weren't dry enough and hung them up indoors (in humane temperatures) for a couple extra days, then trimmed them by hand because I had some time on my hands... meanwhile v2 was hang drying outside and it's been over 100 degrees for the 3rd day in a row. When I got home from golf yesterday the buds on v2 were "crispy"... I didn't even wanna transfer them to my inside hanging bag... I just ran them thru the Trimbag and started trimming them. Result? I spent 4 hours + trimming the big girl, and I spent all of ONE hour trimming v2 after the Trimbag. Now big girl get's credit for being bigger (10 gallon vs 7 gallon container), but that's some serious time saving. Especially for older folks like moi. The bud yield on big girl was 443 grams and v2 came in at 191 grams. Where the "violence" of the Trimbag shows up is in the amount of trim generated. Hand trimming big girl was 117 grams trim and Trimbagging v2 was 130 grams trim (I should note that this doesn't include the trim I (ahem) spilled on my deck). I generally prefer to trim by hand... but I give most of my herb away to friends so I'm not afraid to waste a bit during the trim process to save some time. I'll turn all that trim into something tasty anyway so no waste there. Thanks for stopping by. 😎

MrBlocc420commentedweek 124 years ago

Impressive dale 👍🏾 your ladies always look like there enjoy that good old sunshine ☀️ Great work my friend

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MrBlocc420commented4 years ago

@dalemac,one day I will be able to do the same 💪🏾

dalemaccommented4 years ago

@MrBlocc420, yeah - the sunshine never really gets boring out here in California. We generally welcome the morning fog because we know it's not gonna rain and it's what keeps us cool. There are places that get too much fog and you wouldn't wanna grow outdoors there (like along the coast in SF and San Mateo counties) - but I picked the micro-climate I wanted to retire in about 20 years ago. No AC required. No significant humidity (like the east coast). No heat required for more than half a year. No bugs to speak of either. My little piece of paradise. Flush with herb. 😎

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Bushbaby808commentedweek 94 years ago

Love that, they're sucking that shit up!! 😄👍. Beautiful as always buddy and I must say you're blessed with some amazing weather there, you lucky man and rightly so.....🌞. That powder feed sounds interesting I'll have to investigate!!

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Bushbaby808commented4 years ago

@dalemac, I like your style my friend!!! 👍🌞

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dalemaccommented4 years ago

@Bushbaby808, I'll have to start including a group shot of my 5 girls on the patio because they're taking up so much room.... and damn it's only the middle of July. But if you have to quarantine... you may as well do it with a handful of pretty girls. 😏

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Northern_Entcommentedweek 164 years ago

No bigeee, just an order of magnitude more yield than the indoor plants...🤠

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dalemaccommented4 years ago

@Northern_Ent, LOL... yeah I learned after my first full summer outdoor grow that the yield dwarfs what I can produce indoors. So I play with autoflowers in the off-season. I'm getting ready for a rest though. Been a long summer with a little too much heat (and smoke). 😎

Fleurscommentedweek 164 years ago

Nice work man👍 The smoke has been horrible and the hottest summer I can remember. Glad to see it didn't affect this beautiful plant. I bet its gonna smoke like a dream!✌️

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dalemaccommented4 years ago

@Fleurs, Yeah I'm getting really tired of all the non-cannabis smoke in the air. I've been spending my accumulated "points" at my local Harborside dispensary on pre-rolls to use for an after dinner smoke because what the hell - better smoke - but my lungs are not happy with the decision. 😛

Organic_LarFcommentedweek 154 years ago

High, Maybe its a stupid question, but whats up with that v2. Is it a different version or just a second plant? No signs of hermafrodiet? I got 1 with lots of seeds. Fully matured seeds that is. Nice looking plants. Maybe its more a outdoor strain that needs gentle transition from veg to flower by the sun. Not the instant switch. 🙏🍀🍀🍀🙏

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dalemaccommented4 years ago

@Organic_LarF, There are no stupid questions. 😎 Nothing wrong with v2, she's just a second plant that I germinated because I wasn't sure my initial batch of seeds survived. Technically she's only about a week younger than the big girl that got the bigger container (as far as when they jumped outa their shells). Kinda fortunate she wasn't as fat when the thunderstorms rolled in. Wouldn't have been a problem if I'd been there to shake the water off the plants, but I wasn't. She's looking great now, and I'm going to flush her today after inspecting trichomes on everybody yesterday. Big girl is still hang drying with a few more days before trimming so v2 is on almost the same life schedule as the bigger girl.... within a few days. Getting into that busy (sticky) time of year. 😄

Northern_Entcommentedweek 144 years ago

Nice job. The amount of water that my Wonder Pie #1 transpires is amazing, especially compared to my nearby Flash Seeds plants which are twice as big and use half as much water. Seriously, and with both sets of plants at the early flower stage. So seeing that you’re using similar amounts of water is helpful. And mine started out about two weeks behind yours but they seem to be falling further behind....hopefully they will finish fast but fall comes pretty fast here and I think these might not make it. Oh well, all part of the fun I suppose.

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dalemaccommented4 years ago

@Northern_Ent, I have a feeling my big girl is a lot closer to harvest than I might think. Took a quick look at trichomes yesterday and saw the full range - clear - cloudy - some amber. I think this heat wave we're going thru has thrown the big girl at least into defense... fighting to save the buds from the heat after the initial wilt experience. We usually only get a max of 3 days of heavy heat (above 90F) before the fog comes rolling back in with a vengeance... but we're in day 5 and with any luck that fog comes in tonight. We need it because the world has been burning - so bad that I was actually able to shake soot from a fire somewhere off my girls this morning - probably from the Santa Cruz area because everything has been coming up from the south. Visibility was less than one mile when I took my dogs out today. There's a good chance I may decide to flush the big girl after further trichome inspection. She's carrying a fair amount of weight already - although I'm at least a few weeks behind what the feeding "schedule" says in that she could theoretically be flowering for a few more weeks. There will clearly be a couple weeks separation between harvest of the big girl and v2.

Northern_Entcommentedweek 104 years ago

Nice. I was thinking my Wonder Pies look a little extra green today, and you’re mentioning it in your group pic (awesome btw). Isn’t that due to excess N and is there anything to be done and/or needs doing? I assume that the plants will do fine despite being dark green. Nice to see that you’ve got buds starting so hopefully my northern plants two weeks behind yours can make it to the finish line. 😎

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dalemaccommented4 years ago

@Northern_Ent, I was actually liking the darker green color in this case. The Wonder Pie's seem healthier than the other girls by and large - although some of the other girls have had minor issues. In the case of my Gorilla Glue, I'm switching her over to Green House Feed because I didn't like how she was reacting to my old nutrient routine. I decided to use the Green House stuff on my White Widow from the beginning... these are all hybrids (and the Wonder Pie's) and the feed these wonderful folks provided are tailored to hybrids. Who am I to argue. 😎 So I'm basically reduced to using my standard Emerald Harvest nutrients on the only sativa I'm growing this summer, and a very nice Jack Herer she seems to be turning into. However... that means she's gonna be lonely at the breakfast table... so to speak. She'll be fine. 😁

Northern_Entcommentedweek 74 years ago

Great plants,but mostly I’ll comment on your diary entry. Putin clearly has some really good kompromat on Trump. My guess is that it starts with video of him with an underage girl in 1988 during his first visit to Moscow. As soon as he got back to the US he took out an ad attacking US government policies. Likely not a coincidence. That and money laundering.

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dalemaccommented4 years ago

@Northern_Ent, Ummm... I'm afraid American politics has "jumped the shark" to use a phrase from my college days (1975-1980) when things were comparatively simple. You're probably correct in most of your thoughts, but there's NO doubt in my mind it goes MUCH FURTHER than anybody wants to actually contemplate, because it's uglier than most of us want to imagine. Mother$ucker has managed to turn our world into a 3rd world country in less than 4 years - to the point where other countries have to consider blockading US folks because we're too stupid as a country to get our sh*t under control. Amazing how fast everything I was taught as a child could be burned to the ground. Hey... but other than that... getting old in general sucks. Cannabis farming is a primary hobby, along with golf, biking, and horse racing. Most of my world is functioning but I'm lucky. Regarding Trump... one thing I should point out. The day he went too far was the day he ordered Federal forces to attack peaceful protesters in a park in DC. That will go down in US history as the day he really screwed the pooch (to use another phrase from the same era). That's the kind of event that INSPIRES Americans... reminds (some of) us where we came from... every time he pulls one of those clown acts the response will get even larger. That much I know... I'll be there. ✊

Northern_Entcommentedweek 84 years ago

As a lazy but creative working engineer, I fly by the ‘seat of my pants’ supplemented by daily soil moisture probe readings starting this year. My $15 Luster Leaf meter from the hydro shop seems to work great. Although it’s rained so much here in Alberta that I haven’t had to do much watering lately. I like the look of your plants and I’m intrigued by the differences with my plants. Mine are two weeks behind but I think a lot of the difference is the light here at 53N is more red shifted. I also think that I will have to force flower my plants (to ensure harvest by about end of September) which will be a hassle but that is TBD.

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dalemaccommented4 years ago

@Northern_Ent, The difference is probably attributable to light and water. I'm considerably south of you on the North American scale, and the beauty of California is it doesn't rain here for like half a year. Every freaking year. Cannabis has no problem with water until the flowers come... then it can become problematic. But it won't rain (at all) where I live until like October unless there's a freak storm that spins out down south... and I might even welcome those. 😎

ElMetitorcommentedweek 34 years ago

Hi, Nice plant Dude , but i think the last 2 plants are must FIMing ?? I think you could also add the FIMing section, not a criticism eh 😁, that's clear😂, just my opinion. I wish you a nice grow and strongs plants 💪👽💪

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dalemaccommented4 years ago

@ElMetitor, hehe... I generally try NOT to FIM (personal preference), and I'm not sure we'll be able to tell how close the cut was until we see what grows out of it and whether it shows deformation. But I'm less worried about it with a photoperiod that I know will still be vegging a few weeks. I waited too long to try topping some autoflowers and I didn't like the result.

Rap_a_capcommentedweek 164 years ago

@dalemac wrote: "Need to get a buddy or three involved..." Man, give me a whistle I'm taking the plane, I'm taking some frosty Royal Gorilla with me 😁

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blendmedmedmancommentedweek 154 years ago

man sorry about the buds, the rest look real nice

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PirateJoecommentedweek 154 years ago

That is beautiful stuff.

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krulllcommentedweek 134 years ago

good job, looks great

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Bushbaby808commentedweek 104 years ago

Now that is a pukka patio!!! 🌲👌

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