Wonder Pie

@Northern_Ent, My kit came with a 35 page "Product Guide" that seems to cover instructions for both their mineral and bio lines (everything). Page 15 in my guide is for hybrids in soil... which is or was me. It gives me the amount of grams of powder per gallon of fluid administered, for every week of the life of the plant. Part that threw me off was I looked at this chart and it says flush in week 10 of flowering - but my girls didn't last that long. It's possible I misjudged the start of flowering, and/or the heat wave we experienced advanced the age of the plants a week or two. I may mess with the bio line next year. I'm replacing some planters in my yard that are disintegrating from age, and I might just try growing a plant in a half wine barrel planter next year. But I'll have to think about how to tend to critters in containers that large (got all winter). It would make more sense to NOT be mixing stuff in with fluid regularly when you have to feed such a large container.

@dalemac, maybe the instructions are different for the organic powders. Did the powders you used come with the concentrations needed in water, or did you calculate that? Maybe if you want easy you should try the organic powders next year. Mix with soil at start, and top dressing for bloom. Couldn’t be any easier really.

@Northern_Ent, Well if you're mixing me in with Mrs_Larimar I must be doing something right. 😉 But yes - I mixed this stuff directly with water. Can't help with soil application. I guess my "system" as it is is largely calibrated to how much a plant drinks. I start this early in the year...giving my girls increasing amounts of fluid until it starts to pool in the container I use to hold those fluids. Once I have a normal dose of daily fluid calculated (usually between 1.5 and 2 gallons) I can calculate how much powder to feed them and then you do that on an alternate feed/water schedule. One thing I did this summer was I used two days of water to every day of feeding - rather than a 50% ratio (recommended) - why? - because I feel it's always safer to err on the side of less nutrients to avoid nutrient burn. In the case at hand - specific math - I may not have gauged exactly when flowering started but there's not a whole lotta change going on in weeks 6-7 in the instructions, which say 1.9 grams of both hybrid powder AND booster per gallon of fluid. I did a lotta math early in the year because I wanted to use the powder with some other hybrids and I need to make sure I could make it to the end of the road with the original intentions. The "Feeding Schedule/Professional Grower" for hybrids doesn't indicate that plants need to be flushed until week 10 of flowering. I'm sorry but that's not even close with the weather we've been experiencing... it's advanced the age of most plants a couple weeks near as I can tell. I like the debudder - but I wouldn't bother with wet buds - not sure it would be worth the effort.

@dalemac, I really cant imagine , seeing armed civil persons in the streets....... thats so strange for me

@Mrs_Larimar, I kinda expect that there is a large reservoir of fireworks stashed away for this event. Last 4th of July during the pandemic was crazy. I just hope all the armed yahoo's looking for a revolution don't mistake the jubilation for something else. ✊ 😎

@dalemac,well i dont throw away any weed or sugarleaves , too. My newest " baby" is a wet trimmer--- i saw it last year and gave it a chance this year i show the function in my previous harvests ( i think it was " doctors choice" or doctors niagara.... Instead of 1,5 hours of trimming it took us 10 minutes.... i love that thing

@Mrs_Larimar, hehe... I actually have two TrimBags from two different contests here. I don't bother with it for autoflowers because they are generally a lot smaller than my summer photoperiod girls and trimming by hand isn't a big deal there. But you are correct in that the buds need to be more dry than I usually like to get them in order for the TrimBag to function properly. I tried it on a number of girls last summer and found a kinda sweet spot (I probably wrote this up in my biggest diary last summer, which would have been Double Amnesia). I think the manufacturer uses the term "crispy" when referring to preferred bud condition for using the bag. Thank god for Boveda. In the case of Wonder Pie here, I decided the buds on big girl weren't dry enough and hung them up indoors (in humane temperatures) for a couple extra days, then trimmed them by hand because I had some time on my hands... meanwhile v2 was hang drying outside and it's been over 100 degrees for the 3rd day in a row. When I got home from golf yesterday the buds on v2 were "crispy"... I didn't even wanna transfer them to my inside hanging bag... I just ran them thru the Trimbag and started trimming them. Result? I spent 4 hours + trimming the big girl, and I spent all of ONE hour trimming v2 after the Trimbag. Now big girl get's credit for being bigger (10 gallon vs 7 gallon container), but that's some serious time saving. Especially for older folks like moi. The bud yield on big girl was 443 grams and v2 came in at 191 grams. Where the "violence" of the Trimbag shows up is in the amount of trim generated. Hand trimming big girl was 117 grams trim and Trimbagging v2 was 130 grams trim (I should note that this doesn't include the trim I (ahem) spilled on my deck). I generally prefer to trim by hand... but I give most of my herb away to friends so I'm not afraid to waste a bit during the trim process to save some time. I'll turn all that trim into something tasty anyway so no waste there. Thanks for stopping by. 😎

@dalemac,one day I will be able to do the same 💪🏾

@MrBlocc420, yeah - the sunshine never really gets boring out here in California. We generally welcome the morning fog because we know it's not gonna rain and it's what keeps us cool. There are places that get too much fog and you wouldn't wanna grow outdoors there (like along the coast in SF and San Mateo counties) - but I picked the micro-climate I wanted to retire in about 20 years ago. No AC required. No significant humidity (like the east coast). No heat required for more than half a year. No bugs to speak of either. My little piece of paradise. Flush with herb. 😎

@dalemac, I like your style my friend!!! 👍🌞

@Bushbaby808, I'll have to start including a group shot of my 5 girls on the patio because they're taking up so much room.... and damn it's only the middle of July. But if you have to quarantine... you may as well do it with a handful of pretty girls. 😏

@Northern_Ent, LOL... yeah I learned after my first full summer outdoor grow that the yield dwarfs what I can produce indoors. So I play with autoflowers in the off-season. I'm getting ready for a rest though. Been a long summer with a little too much heat (and smoke). 😎

@Fleurs, Yeah I'm getting really tired of all the non-cannabis smoke in the air. I've been spending my accumulated "points" at my local Harborside dispensary on pre-rolls to use for an after dinner smoke because what the hell - better smoke - but my lungs are not happy with the decision. 😛

@Organic_LarF, There are no stupid questions. 😎 Nothing wrong with v2, she's just a second plant that I germinated because I wasn't sure my initial batch of seeds survived. Technically she's only about a week younger than the big girl that got the bigger container (as far as when they jumped outa their shells). Kinda fortunate she wasn't as fat when the thunderstorms rolled in. Wouldn't have been a problem if I'd been there to shake the water off the plants, but I wasn't. She's looking great now, and I'm going to flush her today after inspecting trichomes on everybody yesterday. Big girl is still hang drying with a few more days before trimming so v2 is on almost the same life schedule as the bigger girl.... within a few days. Getting into that busy (sticky) time of year. 😄

@Northern_Ent, I have a feeling my big girl is a lot closer to harvest than I might think. Took a quick look at trichomes yesterday and saw the full range - clear - cloudy - some amber. I think this heat wave we're going thru has thrown the big girl at least into defense... fighting to save the buds from the heat after the initial wilt experience. We usually only get a max of 3 days of heavy heat (above 90F) before the fog comes rolling back in with a vengeance... but we're in day 5 and with any luck that fog comes in tonight. We need it because the world has been burning - so bad that I was actually able to shake soot from a fire somewhere off my girls this morning - probably from the Santa Cruz area because everything has been coming up from the south. Visibility was less than one mile when I took my dogs out today. There's a good chance I may decide to flush the big girl after further trichome inspection. She's carrying a fair amount of weight already - although I'm at least a few weeks behind what the feeding "schedule" says in that she could theoretically be flowering for a few more weeks. There will clearly be a couple weeks separation between harvest of the big girl and v2.

@Northern_Ent, I was actually liking the darker green color in this case. The Wonder Pie's seem healthier than the other girls by and large - although some of the other girls have had minor issues. In the case of my Gorilla Glue, I'm switching her over to Green House Feed because I didn't like how she was reacting to my old nutrient routine. I decided to use the Green House stuff on my White Widow from the beginning... these are all hybrids (and the Wonder Pie's) and the feed these wonderful folks provided are tailored to hybrids. Who am I to argue. 😎 So I'm basically reduced to using my standard Emerald Harvest nutrients on the only sativa I'm growing this summer, and a very nice Jack Herer she seems to be turning into. However... that means she's gonna be lonely at the breakfast table... so to speak. She'll be fine. 😁

@Northern_Ent, Ummm... I'm afraid American politics has "jumped the shark" to use a phrase from my college days (1975-1980) when things were comparatively simple. You're probably correct in most of your thoughts, but there's NO doubt in my mind it goes MUCH FURTHER than anybody wants to actually contemplate, because it's uglier than most of us want to imagine. Mother$ucker has managed to turn our world into a 3rd world country in less than 4 years - to the point where other countries have to consider blockading US folks because we're too stupid as a country to get our sh*t under control. Amazing how fast everything I was taught as a child could be burned to the ground. Hey... but other than that... getting old in general sucks. Cannabis farming is a primary hobby, along with golf, biking, and horse racing. Most of my world is functioning but I'm lucky. Regarding Trump... one thing I should point out. The day he went too far was the day he ordered Federal forces to attack peaceful protesters in a park in DC. That will go down in US history as the day he really screwed the pooch (to use another phrase from the same era). That's the kind of event that INSPIRES Americans... reminds (some of) us where we came from... every time he pulls one of those clown acts the response will get even larger. That much I know... I'll be there. ✊

@Northern_Ent, The difference is probably attributable to light and water. I'm considerably south of you on the North American scale, and the beauty of California is it doesn't rain here for like half a year. Every freaking year. Cannabis has no problem with water until the flowers come... then it can become problematic. But it won't rain (at all) where I live until like October unless there's a freak storm that spins out down south... and I might even welcome those. 😎

@ElMetitor, hehe... I generally try NOT to FIM (personal preference), and I'm not sure we'll be able to tell how close the cut was until we see what grows out of it and whether it shows deformation. But I'm less worried about it with a photoperiod that I know will still be vegging a few weeks. I waited too long to try topping some autoflowers and I didn't like the result.