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Smartie Smartie
4 years ago
Good day everyone!! Hope yall are good and healthy!! For my own comfort (as in watering, feeding, keeping a diary, etc) I will end a week when plants are planted outside, mostly on a Sunday so in the case of Jack and Baby Sister Strawberry their week will start 3 days earlier than suppose to but all good.๐Ÿ‘ Today, September 20th, officially kicks off my first proper Ozzy Outdoor Grow!! Jack got transplanted this morning under a beautiful morning sun ๐ŸŒž๐Ÿ˜Ž I prepped his pot yesterday by burying the same size pot at the height I would bury Jack.. Left the pot like that outside for a whole day/night in the rain so was just absolutely perfect to start with this morning. I chose to invest in soil this grow and for this first time I went with a basic Organic Living Soil recipe. I also have a misses to keep happy so if I can blow her (and hopefully my) tits off time harvest comes, I know already extra additional amendments I would use and ofcourse I would go bigger ๐Ÿ˜ But first things first, the recipe: You can see pictures of the soil making process in Week 1 of this diary - 1 part Worm Castings - 1 part OGS Spagnum Peat Moss - 1 part OGS Premium Aeration Mix: Premium Aeration Mix is perfect to keep your soil aerobic. It is composed of Pumice (55%), Rice Hulls (40%) and Zeolite (5%) to bring fantastic air-filled porosity, room for microorganisms to live, additional cationic exchange capacity and slow release Nitrogen and Silica to your soil. Then following products were added at 1/2 cup per cubic feet (7Gal) : - Kelp Meal: Kelp Meal is an excellent source of NPK along with over 60 micronutrients. It has many complex carbohydrates such as Alginic acid, Mannitol, as well as plant plant hormones like Cytokinins, Indoles, Auxins and Gibberellins. These hormones are involved in a variety of process's from enhancing vegetative growth and flowering, all the way through to reducing shock from transplanting, over watering and heat-shock. It is rich in amino acids and minerals which enhance microbial life enormously, helping to ensure a better crop. - 22% mineral content overall - 50% Carbohydrates - 6% Amino Acids - 2% Sulfur (Helps ensure you get the tastiest, most terpene rich harvest possible) - Neem Cake: Neem Cake provides a great source of NPK with values of 4-2-2 respectively and is commonly used in soil mixes and topdressings to provide adequate nutritional support to your plants. On top of this neem has phenomenal Integrated Pest Management (IPM) properties, which occurs through its production of molecules such as Azadirachtin, Salannin and Nimbin, which act as an antifeedant for over 200 species of insects. - Oyster Shell Flour: Oyster Shell Flour is a premium Calcium source that takes longer to break down than other Calcium sources. This means by using Oyster Shell Flour you significantly reduce the risk of lockout issues arising when compared with alternative Calcium sources, which can be completely broken down in a few weeks in an active enough rhizosphere. - Fin 'N' Feather Meal: Fin 'N' Feather Meal contains several components that will provide an abundance of N-P-K to your soil over time. It is long release and will not burn your plants! In microbial rich soil it is an excellent way to quickly provide nitrogen to your garden. Fin 'N' Feather Meal has a superior N-P-K profile and benefit to feather meal since it contains higher levels of calcium to help mobilise the macro-molecules it is accompanied by. I normally would add Crab Meal or Crustacean but the guys from OGS told me to add more Fin 'N' Feather Meal and use their OGS Water Supplement (Hydro Frass): By providing in an easily soluble form of an abundance of minerals, complex sugars, natural plant hormones, amino acids, humic acids, fulvic acids and azomite in the appropriate ratios, Organic Gardening Solutions 'All-In-One' Water Supplement works to alleviate plant stress and promote vigorous growth of both the plants and the microbial populations present in your garden. Components: -Dehydrated Coconut Water: Coconut powder brings to the mix an abundance of cytokinins and auxins which are essential hormones that work together to regulate apical growth and root growth, promote cytokinesis (cell division), and have been shown to slow down senescence by preventing the breakdown of proteins. Also present are amino acids, macro-nutrients, micro-nutrients and other auxin analogues to assist in seed development and flower development, and several mono- and polysaccharides which promote microbial growth. -Dehydrated Aloe Vera: Aloe Vera powder is rich in Salicylic Acid, which plays a role in plant growth, photosynthesis, ion uptake and transport, as well as in the resistance to pathogens through the production of pathogenesis-related proteins. Humic & Fulvic Acid: Humic and Fulvic acids are organic polymers which co-ordinate and chelate macro-molecules/metals, and assist in facilitating their uptake. They also act to neutralise soil pH, allowing trace elements once bound in the soil to become available to the plant. Fulvic acids have an oxygen content over twice that of humic acids and as such are much more chemically reactive, with an exchange capacity more than double that of humic acids. Because of their small size, fulvic acid molecules can enter plant roots, stems and leaves, carrying trace minerals from plant surfaces into plant tissues. When humic and fulvic acids are applied to soil, increased root growth rates are observed. Kelp Meal (soluble): Kelp Meal is high in K, and is a source of trace minerals, amino acids, plant micro-nutrients and natural plant hormones. Azomite (soluble): Azomite is a trace element source, conditioning agent and helps plants better absorb nutrients from soil. The rare earth elements present in Azomite enhance nitrogen fixation by Azotobacter species, which bind atmospheric nitrogen and release it as ammonium ions into the soil. Furthermore, the Azomite present in our 'SuperSoil' acts to reduce stress caused by drought by enhancing Abscisic acid (ABA) production, in turn minimizing the water lost by a plant in transpiration. -Chitosan (Soluble Chitin): Chitin is a potent immuno-modulator within the plant, resulting from stimulation of the SAR (systemic aquired resonce) pathway, which stimulates a variety of benneficial process' within the plant. These range from increased terpene and flavinoid production, greater heat bug and stress resistance as well as a greater uptake of nutrients. Chitosan is your secret wepon to providing an unparalled harvest. As you can tell I mulched the Emperor with a bit less than an inch of Alfalfa Meal: Alfalfa contains the naturally occurring growth hormone triacontanol which improves the root system, develops root mass and enhances photosynthesis via secondary messengers which overall results in larger crops. Triacontanol can improve yields by 50% !!! ๐Ÿคฏ๐Ÿคฏ๐Ÿคฏ๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜‚ O, and I LST'ed as well ๐Ÿ‘ First few tie downs will be on the sides of the fabric pot until I don't need to give extra light anymore (moving him around) and by then I should finish the plant saucers so they're mobile and with nails all around to tie down on ๐Ÿ˜‰ As for now I am going to give Jack some rest until he gives me signs that he's ready for more.. ๐Ÿ˜ Because topping number 2 is not too far away ๐Ÿ’ช Thanks for making it this far and as always much appreciated for following along!! Stay safe, Cheers ๐Ÿป Edit: Added some more details on the Hydro Frass
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Grow Questions
Smartie
Smartiestarted grow question 4 years ago
Regarding manifolding/mainlining: Is there any difference or what would be preferred between: Topping as early as possible in week1 and LST new growtips in week2 vs letting stuff grow out for 2 weeks and Top and LST new growtips at the same time? Cheers ๐Ÿ‘
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Mr_Motalovah
Mr_Motalovahanswered grow question 4 years ago
Hey! For me it all comes down to how healthy are your plants. If they're growing vigorously I go ahead and Top n' LST at the same time. Then as she grows I continue the process fast. It's worked great for me, they bounce back fast and it's less time lost training and waiting. BUT I REPEAT it all comes down to how healthy they are. If your really interested in mainling take a look at this tutorial. It's a step by step on everything you need to know and do on main-lining. https://www.growweedeasy.com/mainlining-nugbuckets Hope this helped. Good luck and happy growing!
Smartie
Smartiestarted grow question 4 years ago
Hey, Today I noticed all my outdoor plants have pistils after being 3-5weeks outside. Is this normal and will they continue veg due to increasing days/temps? Also, could this be reversed with additional light? Currently in the 7th week of Spring with 14h light and 13h sunrise.
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Grey_Wolf
Grey_Wolfanswered grow question 4 years ago
Hi mate yes they will continue to veg if the day lengths are at 13 hours per day the pistils showing are just letting you know her sex and that she is physically ready to flower IF you wanted her to but with the 13 hrs of daily sunshine she should remain in veg until the days get shorter again usually early to mid Feb down under. A trick you can use to keep a plant vegging is to use solar lights close to the plants that will provide just enough light to trick your plant into thinking the days are longer than they really are Good luck mate
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Smartie
Smartieweek 9
@Shooey @Mrs_Larimar @Grey_Wolf @Med_in_Tropic wouldn't mind having your thoughts on my flower in veg question above โ˜๏ธ They are all feminised seeds and currently first light - last light = 14h and sunrise - sunset = 13h. Things would've showed earlier no? For sure in Jack's case, being out for nearly 5 weeks (= shorter day/colder temps). Obviously I don't want them to flower yet so can flowering be reversed, say by giving a bit extra light? So confusing as this would be the time plants are put outside for an Ozzy Outdoor grow ๐Ÿ™„ Anyhow, thanks in advance peeps ๐Ÿ˜˜
Smartie
Smartie
@Med_in_Tropic, Good thing is, we agreed that I could show her the investment to profit ratio ๐Ÿ˜‚ So whatever I spent throughout the grow is balanced with what I harvest and what's that worth in coin ๐Ÿ˜‰ If all goes well the numbers will do the talking and expansion is on the horizon ๐Ÿคฃ
Med_in_Tropic
Med_in_Tropic
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Smartie
Smartie
@Med_in_Tropic,๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜‚ I told her I needed a light because otherwise my plants would flower and that if I bought a flood light vs the solar lights I could use that as a working light or even for camping ๐Ÿ˜Ž๐Ÿ˜
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Smartie
Smartieweek 12
@Shooey @Mrs_Larimar @Grey_Wolf @Med_in_Tropic I added photos of Jack 3 days since last update.. You tell me ๐Ÿ˜‰ Cheers ๐Ÿ‘ Edit: Obviously it's a different time of the day(evening) than when I normally take pictures (morning)
Med_in_Tropic
Med_in_Tropic
@Smartie, yeah mate. No haste to trim the buds. But sooner is a bit better. Again, why the rush? I have a plant that flowered during cloning process. I trimmed after three to four weeks. But I think there are some buds left. If there are, I take a vid this Sunday.
Smartie
Smartie
@Med_in_Tropic, Cheers dude ๐Ÿ‘ I was saying the same to a mate the other day about trimming the buds. I'm guessing that doesn't need to happen asap? Just to make sure I know what I'm doing, links will be gladly accepted ๐Ÿ˜‚ Thanks โœŒ๏ธ
Smartie
Smartie
@Mrs_Larimar, Cool, I'll have a look ๐Ÿ‘
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Shooey
Shooeyweek 1
Hey mate, watching with interest. I am having my 2nd crack at the jack, also outdoor in AUS. The plan was some new strains but my seed orders are in limbo atm so going back to the jack again. I grew him last year too. As a plant it is not really overwhelming, but the finished product is sensational. Beautiful rich red hairs, and the taste!! I am one week ahead at this stage, and it will be good to keep an eye on yours as I am also all organic, and got some beautiful worm soil and castings to grow in this year thanks to my new compost bin. Donโ€™t forget the perlite too!! Iโ€™m also using a light to keep him vegging, but my plan is for a 5-6 week veg then outside for an early finish and another run in before the summer sizzle. Cheers mate ๐Ÿป
Smartie
Smartie
@Shooey, Cool, I'll check him out in a sec ๐Ÿ‘ As for the perlite in the amended soil, I use an aeration mix that includes Pumice (55%), Rice Hulls (40%) and Zeolite (5%) and its just beautiful.. It's the orange looking pile you see in the pictures, the other 2 Peat Moss and Worm castings, equal parts.. It's just so much better than just Perlite, no floating etc.. That's also the reason I tried this recipe for seed mix, instead of Peat, Perlite and compost in equal parts I now still have roughly 1/3 of compost and I use 2/3 of quality seed raising mix to use instead of Peat and Perlite.. All looking good for so far.. Cheers mate โœŒ๏ธ Edit: Why are the comments all over the place? ๐Ÿ˜‚ Should I stop using reply or am I missing something here lol
Shooey
Shooey
@Smartie, nice one smartie. Lucky you to grow up so close to the coffee shops. I always wanted to visit and hope to one day. I went as a kid but just for a family holiday! Yes perlite was for the main soil mix. I put in seedling pot mix too, it just helps the roots to move more freely and in the end access nutrients better. I learned a lot on here from grey wolf. Check him out, he is outdoor organic in oz too and he is usually happy to pass on his knowledge, great guy. Cheers Smartie!
Smartie
Smartie
@Shooey, Cheers for the comment bro!! I'll check out your diary in a minute ๐Ÿ˜‰ As for Jack, we know eachother for a longtime ๐Ÿ˜‚ I'm originally from Belgium so the closest coffee shop in Holland was 45min away, Amsterdam 3,5 hours (car).. Has been my favourite ever since, for the exact reasons you mentioned ๐Ÿ‘ You mean perlite in the soil I amended or in the seedling mix? โœŒ๏ธ
Shooey
Shooeyweek 6
Hes right on track and looking great. Nice technique mate ๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿฝ๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿฝ
Smartie
Smartie
@Shooey, Thanks, so far so good ๐Ÿ‘ Might launch a grower question after but I'm not sure if I like the Top 1 week and LST the week after thing or if I just let things grow out a bit more and top and LST at the same time and then let things recover again ๐Ÿค” Cheers anyway my friend ๐Ÿ‘
Secretflower
Secretflowerweek 6
Hi my friend, I wish you a very good culture, feel free to come and see what I do and leave a like if the heart tells you.. ๐ŸŒฑ
Ferenc
Ferencweek 6
Good Luck @Smartie
Shooey
Shooeyweek 5
Very interesting smartie. Looks really healthy too. Iโ€™m going all in on worms this year too thanks to the compost bin. Worm soil and tea! Itโ€™s an interesting technique mate and I canโ€™t say Iโ€™ve seen it before. Itโ€™s lovely and strong for sure! My jack had a setback so I started again, this time looking much better. Itโ€™s glorious weather already so early in the season, a treat for the outdoor organic grower, all the best mate๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ‘
Smartie
Smartie
@Shooey, Good to hear you were aware of it ๐Ÿ‘
Shooey
Shooey
@Smartie, we use half a cap full per 9l watering can and it really works! The veggie garden beams. I mix a small amount with dr greenthumbs high tea and although i dont have an aerator, a shake mix is acceptable. I still get that rich sweet smell and dilute this for soil drench. So far it has worked out nicely as a compliment to the nutrients. Cheers mate
Smartie
Smartie
@Shooey, Mmmm ๐Ÿค” There should be no excessive moisture in worm/compost bins, if there is that means your c/n ratio is off (worms and hot compost prefer 25-30 c/n ratio). This liquid is called leachate and can potentially harm your garden if used undiluted, however I know people who use it and seems to be fine. Regardless, this is no compost tea where you put a (tea)bag with compost/worm casting in a bucket of water and let that aerate for 24-48h using an aquarium air pump. This is called Activated Aerated Compost Tea. I had the same assumption in the beginning, in fact I added taps on the bottom of my bins for that ๐Ÿ˜‚ As for Bokashi, I've heard of it but enough on the plate as it is lol..
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Shooey
Shooeyweek 9
Very nice man. Really interesting to watch. Itโ€™s all going to plan ๐Ÿ‘
Shooey
Shooey
@Smartie, I really hope not mate, thereโ€™s still a long way to go bro ๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ‘
Smartie
Smartie
@Shooey, You jynxed it ๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿคฃ
Smartie
Smartie
@Shooey, Cheers dude, so far so good ๐Ÿ‘ Happy with the progress but looking forward to have them all 3 manifolded/trained tho ๐Ÿ˜‚
bioaccessory
bioaccessoryweek 5
ะธะฝั‚ะตั€ะตัะฝั‹ะน ะดะฝะตะฒะฝะธะบ, ัƒะดะฐั‡ะธ ะฑั€ะพ! ๐Ÿ‘Š
Smartie
Smartie
@bioaccessory, It's regular 50% shade cloth that you buy in a local hardware store ๐Ÿ‘ Comes in different colours, sizes and cover % โœŒ๏ธ
bioaccessory
bioaccessory
@Smartie, ะฟะพะดัะบะฐะถะธ ะฟะพะถะฐะปัƒะนัั‚ะฐ, ะธะท ะบะฐะบะพะณะพ ะผะฐั‚ะตั€ะธะฐะปะฐ ัะดะตะปะฐะฝ ั‚ะตะฝั‚ ะฝะฐ ั„ะพั‚ะพ "Talking about sun"๐Ÿ‘
Smartie
Smartie
@bioaccessory, Thanks! Same for you ๐Ÿ‘
Shooey
Shooeyweek 12
Man I canโ€™t help but think jack has fully bolted, looks like even some orange hairs appearing and even trichs building up by the look of some of those pics. Dude it might be worth finishing him out and getting what you can and planting again asap maybe?? Iโ€™m no expert man but mine are doing the same, and same last year. I donโ€™t reckon you would need to bring him in either, I donโ€™t even cover mine anymore,, itโ€™s a tough call matey Iโ€™m feelin ya. Youโ€™ve done so well with all the training and shaping him to perfection. ๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿป
Shooey
Shooey
@Smartie, yeah mate there will be heaps to take away from this for future grows. I am interested to see if it does show signs of reveg like those singular leaves appearing in coming weeks. I feel as though once they hit a certain point they wonโ€™t likely go back, or at least that has happened to me so far, so much so that I plan for it now. With re vegging, I have heard that the hormonal changes from veg/flower/veg/flower affect the plants and the end result is not premium quality bud (grow from your heart podcast- Irie genetics). I havenโ€™t done it but it makes sense. I reckon jack is busting out, but that blueberry seems to be coming back around well enough bro. @med would know, he would have done stuff like that before just for fun!! ๐Ÿ˜„
Smartie
Smartie
@Shooey, I share that opinion mate, at least that he was too far gone before me intervening.๐Ÿ‘ Since today I'm starting to get the impression that he changed his mind (not saying that there's no damage done, or that all of a sudden the blind can see again tho ๐Ÿ™ˆ) as it looks like few colas almost doubled in size and there are more/bigger leaves ๐Ÿค“ For the sake of science and because I still believe in Jack, he will stay with the others for another week under the added light (7min added for the moment lol). After that it's nature's call. I know you're not a fan but what's the deal with revegging? Stress/hermie/yield? Sure someone must pulled it off successfully already no?๐Ÿ˜‚ Cheers mate โœŒ๏ธ
Mrs_Larimar
Mrs_Larimarweek 8
Howdy, just a tip you can pierce through the smartpots and ankering your bendings- Just take aknife or scissor and poke little holes into the bags,
Smartie
Smartie
@Mrs_Larimar, Hahaha you can't believe what I thought throughout today's whole frikking session ๐Ÿ˜‚ Although I would prefer pegs (ones shown in Barry's diary) for the first few stages of forming the manifold (pretty much where I'm at now). This would make six pegs in total which is not a drama in combination with topdressing. After that (so for me in 2 weeks and at 8 colas) I would start using the planters and the 6 pegs can go. But yeah I see what you're saying, would be a bit easier to use ties to the pot or pegs instead of the long, curly and very annoying piece of wire ๐Ÿคฃ Cheers ๐Ÿ‘
Ferenc
Ferencweek 8
Happy Growing! @Smartie
Smartie
Smartie
Cheers @Ferenc ๐Ÿ‘
Shooey
Shooeyweek 7
Looking really nice Smartie. Temps are up there already hey, I hope itโ€™s not a sign of another brutally hot summer,,, although you are more prepared this year with the shade and mist set up. ๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ‘
Smartie
Smartie
@Shooey, Cheers cob ๐Ÿ‘ For the moment the weather is a bit all over the shop, but yeah we've had a few 35ers already in the first month of Spring ๐Ÿ˜Ž But then this week not more than 25 and a shower here and there ๐Ÿคท The misting should help to drop temps by 10, as for shade, to keep the scorching heat between 10am-2pm away I will definitely have to make some changes ๐Ÿค” โœŒ๏ธโœŒ๏ธ
Mrs_Larimar
Mrs_Larimarweek 4
Its easy to see you grow with Passion love and brain...
Smartie
Smartie
@Mrs_Larimar, thank you, means a lot.. But I think that regardless of equipment, motivation, capabilities, etc if you take the time and effort to take a picture and write stuff down to share, you basically have a minimum of those qualities. I would like to give a special thanks to my ADHD, OCD and Compulsive Behaviour for being there with me and believing in me when no one else did ๐Ÿคฃ๐Ÿคฃ๐Ÿคฃ๐Ÿคฃ๐Ÿคฃ
Shooey
Shooeyweek 14
Hi mate. Sent you a PM. Click the little arrow on the bottom right of the page and hit me back when you see it. Cheers
northernMike
northernMikeweek 11
Luck from Canada๐Ÿ‘Š Grow Big!!
SwedenX
SwedenXweek 11
Looking great! Nice work and happy growing!
DreamOn
DreamOnweek 11
Nice job, looks great! Good luck further and have fun! ๐ŸŒฑ๐Ÿ˜Ž
Shooey
Shooeyweek 3
Looking very happy there mate ๐Ÿ‘
Med_in_Tropic
Med_in_Tropicweek 12
If root is an issue, have you tried Mycorrhiza?
Smartie
Smartie
@Med_in_Tropic, Not really sure if it's a root issue. I think he was preflowering for a while and I just didn't see it early enough between all topping, training and manifolding ๐Ÿคฃ But then today he looked better again ๐Ÿ˜Ž Like I said I'm not giving up on him.. I know Mycorrhizal tho, was on next year's shopping list ๐Ÿ˜‰ Cheers ๐Ÿ‘