Green House Seed Co. Jack Herer grow diary (journal) week6 by Smartie

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Smartiecommentedweek 94 years ago

@Shooey @Mrs_Larimar @Grey_Wolf @Med_in_Tropic wouldn't mind having your thoughts on my flower in veg question above ☝️ They are all feminised seeds and currently first light - last light = 14h and sunrise - sunset = 13h. Things would've showed earlier no? For sure in Jack's case, being out for nearly 5 weeks (= shorter day/colder temps). Obviously I don't want them to flower yet so can flowering be reversed, say by giving a bit extra light? So confusing as this would be the time plants are put outside for an Ozzy Outdoor grow 🙄 Anyhow, thanks in advance peeps 😘

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Smartiecommented4 years ago

@Med_in_Tropic, Good thing is, we agreed that I could show her the investment to profit ratio 😂 So whatever I spent throughout the grow is balanced with what I harvest and what's that worth in coin 😉 If all goes well the numbers will do the talking and expansion is on the horizon 🤣

Med_in_Tropiccommented4 years ago

😀😀😀😀😀 😭😭

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Smartiecommented4 years ago

@Med_in_Tropic,😂😂😂😂 I told her I needed a light because otherwise my plants would flower and that if I bought a flood light vs the solar lights I could use that as a working light or even for camping 😎😁

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Smartiecommentedweek 124 years ago

@Shooey @Mrs_Larimar @Grey_Wolf @Med_in_Tropic I added photos of Jack 3 days since last update.. You tell me 😉 Cheers 👍 Edit: Obviously it's a different time of the day(evening) than when I normally take pictures (morning)

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Med_in_Tropiccommented4 years ago

@Smartie, yeah mate. No haste to trim the buds. But sooner is a bit better. Again, why the rush? I have a plant that flowered during cloning process. I trimmed after three to four weeks. But I think there are some buds left. If there are, I take a vid this Sunday.

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Smartiecommented4 years ago

@Med_in_Tropic, Cheers dude 👍 I was saying the same to a mate the other day about trimming the buds. I'm guessing that doesn't need to happen asap? Just to make sure I know what I'm doing, links will be gladly accepted 😂 Thanks ✌️

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Smartiecommented4 years ago

@Mrs_Larimar, Cool, I'll have a look 👍

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Shooeycommentedweek 14 years ago

Hey mate, watching with interest. I am having my 2nd crack at the jack, also outdoor in AUS. The plan was some new strains but my seed orders are in limbo atm so going back to the jack again. I grew him last year too. As a plant it is not really overwhelming, but the finished product is sensational. Beautiful rich red hairs, and the taste!! I am one week ahead at this stage, and it will be good to keep an eye on yours as I am also all organic, and got some beautiful worm soil and castings to grow in this year thanks to my new compost bin. Don’t forget the perlite too!! I’m also using a light to keep him vegging, but my plan is for a 5-6 week veg then outside for an early finish and another run in before the summer sizzle. Cheers mate 🍻

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Smartiecommented4 years ago

@Shooey, Cool, I'll check him out in a sec 👍 As for the perlite in the amended soil, I use an aeration mix that includes Pumice (55%), Rice Hulls (40%) and Zeolite (5%) and its just beautiful.. It's the orange looking pile you see in the pictures, the other 2 Peat Moss and Worm castings, equal parts.. It's just so much better than just Perlite, no floating etc.. That's also the reason I tried this recipe for seed mix, instead of Peat, Perlite and compost in equal parts I now still have roughly 1/3 of compost and I use 2/3 of quality seed raising mix to use instead of Peat and Perlite.. All looking good for so far.. Cheers mate ✌️ Edit: Why are the comments all over the place? 😂 Should I stop using reply or am I missing something here lol

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Shooeycommented4 years ago

@Smartie, nice one smartie. Lucky you to grow up so close to the coffee shops. I always wanted to visit and hope to one day. I went as a kid but just for a family holiday! Yes perlite was for the main soil mix. I put in seedling pot mix too, it just helps the roots to move more freely and in the end access nutrients better. I learned a lot on here from grey wolf. Check him out, he is outdoor organic in oz too and he is usually happy to pass on his knowledge, great guy. Cheers Smartie!

Smartiecommented4 years ago

@Shooey, Cheers for the comment bro!! I'll check out your diary in a minute 😉 As for Jack, we know eachother for a longtime 😂 I'm originally from Belgium so the closest coffee shop in Holland was 45min away, Amsterdam 3,5 hours (car).. Has been my favourite ever since, for the exact reasons you mentioned 👍 You mean perlite in the soil I amended or in the seedling mix? ✌️

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Shooeycommentedweek 64 years ago

Hes right on track and looking great. Nice technique mate 👍🏽👍🏽

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Smartiecommented4 years ago

@Shooey, Thanks, so far so good 👍 Might launch a grower question after but I'm not sure if I like the Top 1 week and LST the week after thing or if I just let things grow out a bit more and top and LST at the same time and then let things recover again 🤔 Cheers anyway my friend 👍

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Secretflowercommentedweek 64 years ago

Hi my friend, I wish you a very good culture, feel free to come and see what I do and leave a like if the heart tells you.. 🌱

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Ferenccommentedweek 64 years ago

Good Luck @Smartie

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Shooeycommentedweek 54 years ago

Very interesting smartie. Looks really healthy too. I’m going all in on worms this year too thanks to the compost bin. Worm soil and tea! It’s an interesting technique mate and I can’t say I’ve seen it before. It’s lovely and strong for sure! My jack had a setback so I started again, this time looking much better. It’s glorious weather already so early in the season, a treat for the outdoor organic grower, all the best mate👍👍

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Smartiecommented4 years ago

@Shooey, Good to hear you were aware of it 👍

Shooeycommented4 years ago

@Smartie, we use half a cap full per 9l watering can and it really works! The veggie garden beams. I mix a small amount with dr greenthumbs high tea and although i dont have an aerator, a shake mix is acceptable. I still get that rich sweet smell and dilute this for soil drench. So far it has worked out nicely as a compliment to the nutrients. Cheers mate

Smartiecommented4 years ago

@Shooey, Mmmm 🤔 There should be no excessive moisture in worm/compost bins, if there is that means your c/n ratio is off (worms and hot compost prefer 25-30 c/n ratio). This liquid is called leachate and can potentially harm your garden if used undiluted, however I know people who use it and seems to be fine. Regardless, this is no compost tea where you put a (tea)bag with compost/worm casting in a bucket of water and let that aerate for 24-48h using an aquarium air pump. This is called Activated Aerated Compost Tea. I had the same assumption in the beginning, in fact I added taps on the bottom of my bins for that 😂 As for Bokashi, I've heard of it but enough on the plate as it is lol..

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Shooeycommentedweek 94 years ago

Very nice man. Really interesting to watch. It’s all going to plan 👍

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Shooeycommented4 years ago

@Smartie, I really hope not mate, there’s still a long way to go bro 👍👍

Smartiecommented4 years ago

@Shooey, You jynxed it 😂🤣

Smartiecommented4 years ago

@Shooey, Cheers dude, so far so good 👍 Happy with the progress but looking forward to have them all 3 manifolded/trained tho 😂

bioaccessorycommentedweek 54 years ago

интересный дневник, удачи бро! 👊

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Smartiecommented4 years ago

@bioaccessory, It's regular 50% shade cloth that you buy in a local hardware store 👍 Comes in different colours, sizes and cover % ✌️

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bioaccessorycommented4 years ago

@Smartie, подскажи пожалуйста, из какого материала сделан тент на фото "Talking about sun"👍

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Smartiecommented4 years ago

@bioaccessory, Thanks! Same for you 👍

Shooeycommentedweek 124 years ago

Man I can’t help but think jack has fully bolted, looks like even some orange hairs appearing and even trichs building up by the look of some of those pics. Dude it might be worth finishing him out and getting what you can and planting again asap maybe?? I’m no expert man but mine are doing the same, and same last year. I don’t reckon you would need to bring him in either, I don’t even cover mine anymore,, it’s a tough call matey I’m feelin ya. You’ve done so well with all the training and shaping him to perfection. 👍👍🍻

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Shooeycommented4 years ago

@Smartie, yeah mate there will be heaps to take away from this for future grows. I am interested to see if it does show signs of reveg like those singular leaves appearing in coming weeks. I feel as though once they hit a certain point they won’t likely go back, or at least that has happened to me so far, so much so that I plan for it now. With re vegging, I have heard that the hormonal changes from veg/flower/veg/flower affect the plants and the end result is not premium quality bud (grow from your heart podcast- Irie genetics). I haven’t done it but it makes sense. I reckon jack is busting out, but that blueberry seems to be coming back around well enough bro. @med would know, he would have done stuff like that before just for fun!! 😄

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Smartiecommented4 years ago

@Shooey, I share that opinion mate, at least that he was too far gone before me intervening.👍 Since today I'm starting to get the impression that he changed his mind (not saying that there's no damage done, or that all of a sudden the blind can see again tho 🙈) as it looks like few colas almost doubled in size and there are more/bigger leaves 🤓 For the sake of science and because I still believe in Jack, he will stay with the others for another week under the added light (7min added for the moment lol). After that it's nature's call. I know you're not a fan but what's the deal with revegging? Stress/hermie/yield? Sure someone must pulled it off successfully already no?😂 Cheers mate ✌️

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Mrs_Larimarcommentedweek 84 years ago

Howdy, just a tip you can pierce through the smartpots and ankering your bendings- Just take aknife or scissor and poke little holes into the bags,

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Smartiecommented4 years ago

@Mrs_Larimar, Hahaha you can't believe what I thought throughout today's whole frikking session 😂 Although I would prefer pegs (ones shown in Barry's diary) for the first few stages of forming the manifold (pretty much where I'm at now). This would make six pegs in total which is not a drama in combination with topdressing. After that (so for me in 2 weeks and at 8 colas) I would start using the planters and the 6 pegs can go. But yeah I see what you're saying, would be a bit easier to use ties to the pot or pegs instead of the long, curly and very annoying piece of wire 🤣 Cheers 👍

Ferenccommentedweek 84 years ago

Happy Growing! @Smartie

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Smartiecommented4 years ago

Cheers @Ferenc 👍

Shooeycommentedweek 74 years ago

Looking really nice Smartie. Temps are up there already hey, I hope it’s not a sign of another brutally hot summer,,, although you are more prepared this year with the shade and mist set up. 👍👍

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Smartiecommented4 years ago

@Shooey, Cheers cob 👍 For the moment the weather is a bit all over the shop, but yeah we've had a few 35ers already in the first month of Spring 😎 But then this week not more than 25 and a shower here and there 🤷 The misting should help to drop temps by 10, as for shade, to keep the scorching heat between 10am-2pm away I will definitely have to make some changes 🤔 ✌️✌️

Mrs_Larimarcommentedweek 44 years ago

Its easy to see you grow with Passion love and brain...

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Smartiecommented4 years ago

@Mrs_Larimar, thank you, means a lot.. But I think that regardless of equipment, motivation, capabilities, etc if you take the time and effort to take a picture and write stuff down to share, you basically have a minimum of those qualities. I would like to give a special thanks to my ADHD, OCD and Compulsive Behaviour for being there with me and believing in me when no one else did 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

Shooeycommentedweek 144 years ago

Hi mate. Sent you a PM. Click the little arrow on the bottom right of the page and hit me back when you see it. Cheers

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northernMikecommentedweek 114 years ago

Luck from Canada👊 Grow Big!!

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SwedenXcommentedweek 114 years ago

Looking great! Nice work and happy growing!

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DreamOncommentedweek 114 years ago

Nice job, looks great! Good luck further and have fun! 🌱😎

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Shooeycommentedweek 34 years ago

Looking very happy there mate 👍

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Med_in_Tropiccommentedweek 124 years ago

If root is an issue, have you tried Mycorrhiza?

Smartiecommented4 years ago

@Med_in_Tropic, Not really sure if it's a root issue. I think he was preflowering for a while and I just didn't see it early enough between all topping, training and manifolding 🤣 But then today he looked better again 😎 Like I said I'm not giving up on him.. I know Mycorrhizal tho, was on next year's shopping list 😉 Cheers 👍

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