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Week 1. Vegetation
5 years ago
6.35 cm
20 hrs
27 °C
6
No Smell
2 PPM
70 %
21 °C
20 °C
25 °C
0 L
0 L
91.44 cm
Nutrients 1
Fulvic - Terra Aquatica
Fulvic 1 mll
Hello, hello and welcome to Glookies first week on this earth. The Deets: **Will edit in equipment and products that will be used for this grow** GLOOKIES Cannabis Seeds Specifications: Type: Feminised/Photoperiod Indoor/outdoor Characteristics: Medium height bushy plant, Produces huge buds on many branches. Genetics: Gorilla Glue x Thin Mint Girl Scout Cookies Effect: Relaxed but motivational Indoor Yield (g): up to 700 - 800 gr/m² Flowering Time (days): 60 - 70 Indoor (cm): 100cm Height Strain Type: 70/30% Indica Dominant Taste: Sour Diesel, Key Lime, Walnut Aroma: Nutty, Key Lime, Exotic Notes for the Week: -Had a good start with her, actually. She seems to be very vigorous and is plugging along really well. Pushing her 3rd set while pumping out her first and second. Good stem strength and resistant to higher heat/humidity. -Used Solo's again for this grow, and it went okay. Moved to Coco Coir pucks for my proxy and I feel these are doing a little better by me then the soil mix and solo growing. No matter how much I condition my solo soil, it still seems to be too much for the little ones and they usually start off with pretty flimsy stems. With the coco I noticed immediately that stem strength was there from the get-go and they hold themselves very well... Solo's worked well enough, but it's time to refine a tad. -Starting mix is 50/50 with Promix and Dutch Treat Potting soil w/ a 1:5 perlite conditioning. Very loose, low water retention, free root travel. -Used my old germination methods on these 4 girls but have been talking to my buddy and refining this a bit too. I'm not keeping it as simple as I could be and I've stopped doing a preemptive seed soak before paper towel (except for testing viability for a short time). Also reduced heat that I was putting the seeds under and just let them move naturally. Two seeds, side by side (same strain, mother, etc...) one with an 8 hour soak and one without. They both popped in the same time and in good time. Sooooo, pulling back on my old ways and doing less now, which seems to be more to their liking (usually is). -Up until now just RO water and a touch of Humic Acid to help them along. Going to tailor a first feeding schedule for this week using Future Harvest nutrients, for the first time. Going to start low and go slow as I was warned these nutes are good but strong. Probably going to be walking on egg shells for the first little while, lol! -OH! Almost forgot, haha. I've been super pumped and talking about Banana Krumble. Guess which seed out of the 5 was a dud😅. Nature of the game! Lol. Aya Purple was her replacement. I'm not giving up on this! I'm going to frigging grow BK! Can't stop me! hahaha Thanks for stopping by folks. It's a pleasure to be growing Number #4 even though I'm not a fan of the first two weeks, hahaha😅. My germination methods need some work and that's okay. I'm positive that pulling back a bit and keeping it simple will make these weeks much more tolerable. Have a great day/week out there folks. As per usual, it was a pleasure. Catch you on the flip side and keep frosty home boys and home girls. Cheers👋✊
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Week 2. Vegetation
4 years ago
8.89 cm
18 hrs
26 °C
6
No Smell
578 PPM
58 %
21 °C
20 °C
24 °C
8 L
0 L
60.96 cm
Nutrients 9
Root Stim #1 (Softwood) 0.326 mll
Miicrobial Mass 1.981 mll
RapidStart - Terra Aquatica
RapidStart 0.032 mll
Hello and welcome to an explosive Week 2 w/ Glookies. This plant is frigging incredible. These pictures/details will cover days 9-16. The Deets: The Good: -Look at this thing... She's an ultra vigorous little one with great health to back it up. I'm more then impressed w/ Glookies and I can't wait to see where she goes. -She is moving very quick and LST will be a fun ride with her👍. After transplant and her first feed, she didn't stop for a second and just kept plugging away. Everyday I see a new plant and her foliar surface area is starting to expand exponentially. -Wonderful color and health. Stem is finally shoring up and I know for a fact she's about to go into hard Veg. Really going to have to keep up with her needs cause oh man, she just wants to grow big and fast whether I like it or not😃. This means I'll be able to start LST earlier then usual and I have some plans for her👍. The Bad: -Notta👌 The 'Meh': -She's going to be tall, it's clear as day. The SF has held all girls to their height as they bulk outwards, but Glookies is saying no to that and just keeps moving upwards. I see the only means of controlling her to create an even canopy, is by starting very early w/ LST and trying a couple more methods to keep her looking square. -Tent parameters are off and I'm literally working on it while I type, hahaha. RH is a bit out and I need to dump some heat while raising the moisture. Think I might have it now (?). We shall see when I go back down and check on them👍 Notes of the Week: -Tested all soils before use this time, hahaha. That hot seeding soil last time is burned into me and I'll never use a medium without a slurry test from here on out. Potting soil, seeding soil, and Promix all came up aces and are exactly where they should be. -I cut the bone meal from my soil conditioning for pot up, this round. I will be amending the soil with it on the 2-5 gallon move, but I feel some of my P/Cal issues last grow came from this addition to early on stage of life. That, and I am using Miicrobial mass now and it's micro nutrient breakdown (specifically P/Cal) may make that bone meal break down faster and be taken quicker then we'd like. -3 to 5 gallon fabrics were a pain, so this round I'm using 2 to 5 gallon fabrics and will pot up before they have a chance to bind and/or root into the bag. Last go I left this a week too long and this was a brutal experience trying to get them out. I ended up cutting the bags because I was risking big damage to the plant. Would like to avoid this, this time, and the 2 gallons already feel and look like they'll be an easier move then prior. -Because I'm a little too cautious when using a new nutrient line, I am slowly working into the Future Harvest Program. I started with M-G-B but the remaining additives were what I knew. When I saw no issues I moved to their Super B+ and Propogator Root Dev., which also caused zero issues. I will be expanding further into their line as I test each Nutrient/Additive. So far, so very good👍 -Saving some power and have the SF closer but at a lower intensity. The new side dial makes things stupid easy. Currently upping my LUX on a daily basis and am sitting at 19k atm. By end of week 3, I plan on having these girls at 35-40k (If they're okay with that). -Lastly, I would like to up my transpiration rates and am considering Co2 supplementation... I have the material for a DIY, but I think I'll go w/ a legit kit or O2 Bag. Hoping a buddy of mine that can help me out with this and source me a free but SAFE! unit. -Not Lastly.... Oops! By Sept 20th I will have pictures of the new proxy project and all the equipment used. This is a private grow but express permission has been granted to showcase the grow and the girls as we move along. It will be a 4 stain multi-grow journal and will not be touching any contests. This is an adventure I'm sharing with a long time, close friend, who wants to become self sufficient and grow his own. He will be just as responsible for this grow's success as I am and so far him and I have meshed very, very well. This is how I try to pay it forward and once he has a good handle on the process, then he will spread the word and keep this ball rolling👍👊. A final selection has to be made, but all girls are up and ready to go, healthy and very happy. This journal will include 4 of these 5 choices: Green Poison (sweet seeds), Northern Lights (i49), Violator Kush (Barney's), Granddaddy Black (i49) and L.A Amnesia (Paradise Seeds). Should be fun👍 Thank you very much for stopping by and checking out the soon to be hammy beast of a girl. I'm really excited guys! She's just praying and loving life! I hope you all have a fine week out there and I'll certainly catch you on the flip side and see how things are going on your end. For now, Cheers and happy trails👋👊
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Week 3. Vegetation
4 years ago
19.05 cm
18 hrs
25 °C
6.4
650 PPM
65 %
21 °C
20 °C
24 °C
8 L
0 L
71.12 cm
Nutrients 8
Sturdy Stalk - Emerald Harvest
Sturdy Stalk 0.793 mll
Holland Secret - Micro - Future Harvest
Holland Secret - Micro 1.321 mll
Holland Secret - Grow - Future Harvest
Holland Secret - Grow 1.717 mll
Howdy all and welcome to Week 3 of Veg w/ Ms. Glookies. Here's the Deets w/ Glookies (Days 17-22): The Good: -Sick growth. What a great specimen she is. Not scared of her size, but excited to do some heavy LST to keep her formed, balanced and structured. Preliminary training has started on her before anyone else and her lower laterals are already pumping out and almost ready for training themselves👍. Big ass bubble, here we come😃 -Her health is spectacular. Not a burn, blemish or symptom. Great texture, green hue and ever explosive growth. Really, really happy with her. I don't have much else to say other then that. She's great thus far👍 No "Meh's" or Bad's👌 Notes of the Week: -As mentioned I have taken another step further and wanted to automate my unit. I had no issue doing all this manually before, but I'm getting quite busy these days, have a lot going on and I really needed for them to take care of themselves. The days spent adjusting and calibrating devices were completely worth it... Best buy I have gone for in a long time and I caught them on their 10th anniversary sale. Couldn't say no to 40-50% off! -With the new automation I have already cut my exhaust, intake, humidifier and supplementary heater power usage by 66%... Hot damn. Before it was an odd system, running 24/7 without the best balance between heat and humidity. Now, nothing is on in tandem with one another anymore and everything cycles only 5 minutes for 4 times an hour (20 min of 60 min). I'd say this power savings alone is worth the cost of the set-up, but it's so much better then that. I'm loving these things! -All girls are healthy and happy. They may have had a slower start due to my tom-foolery, but we're on cruise control now w/ each blowing up and showing me who they're going to be. Preliminary training has started on all four as I try to expose some laterals for training. Coming into the 4th week, I appear to have all my main laterals I need for training and to create my bubbles👍. -I'm doing okay with Future Harvest nutes and I haven't made a mistake yet, but I do feel I'm pushing my limits with Phosphorous again... The feed after the listed one above was her last for a tiny while and they're on water feeds with either a micro dose of M-G-B or Miicrobial mass to assist in unplugging any issues at the root zone (P/Cal). For now though, I'm not in a rush and they're moving fine. Don't feel like pushing my luck this round so going to back off my P as well until I feel it's necessary to apply such high doses. -At the time of writing this entry (a week old) two girls have been topped and the other ladies will be fluxed tomorrow, September 27th. Training is going into high gear and it's time to fill a tent😀 *Moving Forward*: Where do I even start... Ah, these girls right here are being moved. I will still be growing them to end game but they will not be on my premises for legal reasons. I have had my interviews with Fotonica and have a pretty good idea on when EVA 3 will be arriving and when I will need to commission this unit for a comparison grow vs SF-2000's. So here's the deal. These four girls are going to a friends house, the same fella I had mentioned I was walking through the growing process, built up his tent unit and gave him some babies to grow. Those babies are being taken back now and will either be scrapped or kept, pending on where I can find them a home. They're admittedly effed up and stunted, so I'm considering a fresh run (I effed them up, not my friend...oops!😬). I spread myself and my equipment thin and they did not get the attention they needed or deserved. THIS fresh run will be operating under one diary and will be a multi strain grow (4 plants). I will be propagating these for about 4-5 weeks before they TOO will move to a different friends house to grow to end game....😅😅. At this time, I should have EVA 3 and will start MY grow, lol!! Kind of a crap show, but trust me when I say, I've been working on this for 1.5 weeks and it's gonna work damnit! Hahaha. That's as far as I'll go for now cause it's confusing and I'm confused. I have a bit to go here and have been working everyday, converting rooms, moving equipment, acclimating new environments, piecing and building new tent units, etc...etc... It is all worth it as I have achieved what I wanted... access to more plants, product and equipment. In two months I should hopefully have a total of 12-16 plants running in 3 locations. Alllll legit and legal so I don't get crapped on!😄 If you read all that...thank you and I'm sorry, lol. I'll catch you all with a late 4th week update which will consist of pictures from my unit up until the move and new home at my friends place. A new set and that new diary will be up in a couple weeks. Cheers all! Thanks for stopping by and I hope to catch you on the flip side. If you know of a good way of transferring files from android to PC, let me know. I gotta get this figured out or I have to do this all through my phone. Ouch. Peace!👋👊
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Week 4. Vegetation
4 years ago
25.4 cm
18 hrs
26 °C
6.1
No Smell
550 PPM
65 %
22 °C
20 °C
25 °C
8 L
0 L
68.58 cm
Nutrients 7
Cal-Mag Plus  - Botanicare
Cal-Mag Plus 0.528 mll
Holland Secret - Micro - Future Harvest
Holland Secret - Micro 1.321 mll
Holland Secret - Grow - Future Harvest
Holland Secret - Grow 1.717 mll
Hello all you fine folks. Time for another late entry of Glookies in her 4th week. Heads up that Week 5 update will be quite large as I go through the new tent equipment, new parameters and acclimation, new procedures and steps forward in their new home. Will also go over the first problem of the grow (I made it 26-28 days without an issue. Not bad!😃). There is a known pH imbalance and we are running quite low right now...P/Cal/Mag deficiencies started up and the low pH is limiting the girls uptake of these essential nutrients for the time being. This entry is late, so the procedure in place has already started and Glookies has been treated, w/ symptoms pulling back. Now that I see she is fine, we will move on to the remaining three and apply the same pot up/feed and conditioning to ensure they won't have a hard time in their new pots. Anywho, this is already long. Here's this weeks Deets (Covers Day's 23-30): The Good (before the pH imbalance): -She is still the fastest growing and most healthy girl in the tent. I have actually been having fun with LST as I get to try new things with her. Doing a weird corkscrew build w/ fluxing. Eventually she will end up as a bubble and she is taking her form right this moment👍. -At this time there are no negative symptoms observable on her and she is wonderfully textured and healthy. Training doesn't make her upset or stressed out, her feeds don't make her dip out and she doesn't have the same negative nastic movements as two of her counterparts (VK and GZ). -Feeding has been going very well (I thought😂) and she was taking everything in stride. Backed off the heavy Phosphorous loads and straight water feeds helped her kick some of the access I know was there. The Bad: *From here on out, there will be no bad. I'm not seeing anything as "bad" anymore, but just the literal nature of the game. I will make mistakes and I will fix them. Unless the girls are actively dying or dead and/or hermied, I will not be including the BAD in these anymore. Cause...nothings ever that bad and no matter how far I go I seem to be able to get out of it. Therefore, only "Meh's" from now on👍. The 'Meh': -I did notice something was off with all the girls...some a little more so then others. I didn't know what I was looking at then, but now that symptoms have punched through, I see that I had a pH imbalance for awhile here and it did wreak some havoc. -Beginning deficiencies of P/Cal/Mag are being seen. Mag on top, working downwards and P/Cal on the bottom working it's way upwards through the fans. I will go over this much further in Week 5 and how we are going to adjust the soil through conditioning and a new feeding schedule. -There new home has been somewhat hard to acclimate. It's a much different space then I'm used to, so me and my friend are working together to get things in order and get some nice constant and average readings day and night. At the time of writing this, two days have passed with a steady acclimation of 25-26 degrees and 60-70% RH. Notes of the Week: -As I don't feel I will be able to keep up with super thorough diaries on all the girls, I've decided to make Glookies the Master Diary instead of copy/pasting between journals. From here on out Glookies will have the mass bulk of all information pertaining to all the girls procedures, new schedules, plans and misc. information. The other diaries will include the "Good" and the "Meh" w/ pictures, but entries will be far less in depth. -At the time of writing this I am estimating an additional 2.5-3 weeks of Veg time on all the girls. With some stunting, pH imbalance and mistakes made, we lost a bit of time, but time is all it is. With their new pot up, adjusted pH and feedings, I do trust these girls are going to be happy and blow the hell up in the coming weeks. They are already starting in poor conditions. If I give them what they want, I see nothing but good things in the future. -Proxy Project #2 will be started by the end of this week (Oct 4th) and I should hopefully be able to share a one week update on the new kids. These will be with me for about a month (or when EVA 3 comes in) and then will be transferred to my other friends home for the remainder of propagation under a HPS/MH system (First timer with MH/HPS). -Everything is kind of up in the air when it comes to my actual project start date. I haven't even picked the genetics I'm going to be using... but am slowly working things out. -Bedroom has been completely converted into the official grow room. She's tight, but it's more then adequate for a side by side comparison grow. Damn near every device and piece of equipment is the same, all the way down to the cords used. These units will be operating under the same environment w/ the only differing parameter being the lamp itself. We're gonna do this right👍. I would like the results to be as accurate and concise as possible. -Many, many updates to catch up on and many new entries to start. I really don't think I'll have it all down for a couple weeks here. Entries will continue to be one week behind as I try to catch up on things😃 I'll leave it there for now folks. Thanks so much for stopping by. In Week 3 I have added more pictures to the entry. Finally got my service provider to DO their job and I can start the process of catching up. I hope all is well with you peeps! I will catch you on the flip side and make time to see all your projects👍. You will see me around soon. Cheers and thanks all!👋👊
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Week 5. Vegetation
4 years ago
35.56 cm
18 hrs
25 °C
6.7
No Smell
350 PPM
55 %
23 °C
21 °C
23 °C
19 L
1 L
71.12 cm
Nutrients 6
RapidStart - Terra Aquatica
RapidStart 0.032 mll
Cal-Mag Plus  - Botanicare
Cal-Mag Plus 0.66 mll
Holland Secret - Micro - Future Harvest
Holland Secret - Micro 0.528 mll
**Have included a photo of plants in recovery at the very beginning of the gallery to show that everything is okay! We're back on track and they do not look terrible like the rest of the photos* Hello all! It's been awhile but I'm finally back for some updates. It's been a very tough couple of weeks and arguably things have not been going too well with the project and personal health through this time. There was a huge gap in communication between myself and my friend, we made multiple mistakes (but I should know better) and we both had some relatively serious personal health/mental health issues occurring in this time. The plants paid for it and for a week there I wasn't positive they would make it at all. I felt like I was out the door with them in that bad time, but have now regained confidence and have been in the process of bringing these ladies back to health. They will! make it and they will be just fine. That said, the pictures I'm including in this entry ain't pretty. They're visibly angry and in disrepair, but for the sake of transparency, all will be covered in this entry. Glookies is acting as my "Master" diary for this project, so this will be very long as I try to cover all my bases and give accurate information. All girls were affected in relatively the same way, so this makes more sense to do it here. There will be a bit of copy/pasting b/t diaries this round as pertinent info must be shared across the board. This "Week 5" will actually be covering week 5 and 6 (Days 31-41-42) with all the poor choices and problems observed. Here we go! The Deets: The Good: -They're alive. That was the only good part in this period of time, unfortunately. The 'Meh': -It's all Meh. *see below* First Symptoms/Problems/Observable Issues: -By end of week four, there was clearly an issue coming up but I didn't know what yet. Leaves were dark, droopy and growth was noticeably being stunted. -Early week 5 things were getting far worse so I did a light feeding with my first run-off to see what was going on. Result: Soil turned hot on us and was running very low at 4.2-5.0pH. Holy crap. -Symptoms started to add up. Low pH keeping nutrients from being taken, root system, stems and laterals are weak and P/Cal/Mag deficiencies are becoming clear as day. -With the run-off feed, soil is fully saturated and I was handcuffed for 3 days before I could do anything with the hot soil. Expedited dry time with 24/7 extraction and fan circulation. First Attempt to Rectify: -Wait for dry out and move to fresh soil (tested at 6.7) from 2 G to 5 G fabric pots. -Started to apply daily, lower volume feeds of straight tap @ 7.0pH to help raise the low pH core. Did this for several days. Result: -Worsening deficiencies, starvation, stunting, droopiness and very poor color. Raised ph a tad but this leeching was not going to cut it. Hungry and drying out. -Reached out to other growers for their advice on how to tackle so many issues at once. Decision After Discussion: -Wanted to avoid it, but flush. Simple as that. Wanted to avoid doing this, but there was no other option. Plan to give 3 gallons per plant, giving a 50% run-off, applied at 6.7pH and a 3/4 dose of "Week 2" nutrient schedule. Second Attempt to rectify (Started early Late Week 6): -Ran a full 3 Gallons of Tap/Nutes through each girl w/ 50% run-off and nutrient dosing at 3/4 of the schedules recommendation. Nutrients were barebones M-G-B, Cal/Mag, a root stim and Humic acid. Result: -Bang! Clear as day results within 24 hours. They were starving and the nutrients given were taken immediately, pushing them back into vigorous vegetative growth. -Run-off's showed a positive swing from 4.5-5.0pH to 5.5-6.0pH w/ ppm's coming back low (not much in soil at all) Observation After 2nd Procedure: -With a known limited root system and lots of untapped new soil, water logging was occurring and dry outs were going to be 4-5 days. -After feed, stem and lateral growth went through the roof with plant size doubling in 3 days. -Observed more deficiencies occurring as the nutrient feed I gave was far too low to carry them through such a large amount of time. P/Cal/Mag def. all present with the most visibly affected being Aya Purple. Next Procedure to Tackle Remaining Issues (For Beginning of Week 7): -Repeat flush through with an increased nutrient feed (Week 3 of Schedule. 550ppm over 350ppm) w/ a root stimulator and increase to Potassium -Remove all dead/dying plant life and affected fans blocking new, healthy growth. -Train out for aeration and light penetration to lower canopy to encourage positive lateral growth. -Assess and Observe after second procedure and plan next step from there. Conclusion: -Things are far, far better and it's night and day from where they were a short while ago. These girls will make it and Week 7 update will be the week of recovery and how we got there. There are still issues, but confidence is up as we tackle each symptom, knocking them out one at a time while still keeping from over feeding and/or pushing them. Ya, so it was a really tough go and it wasn't just plant related. No pity! but my mind was off kilter and certain unfortunate feelings come on once in a while. When this happens, I'm very low and don't' have much care for anything, even the things I normally love. I'm happy to say I don't feel like that atm and have made solid improvements over the past several days. Back and ready to finish what I started, back to catching up with all you folks and your projects, and back to enjoying myself and the plants. Please give me time to update these things as over two weeks of photos and info to sort through is tasking and I would like to make sure I cover my bases and/or don't mislead anyone with my info and procedures. Much love to you all, seriously. If you're having a bad time like I was, please reach out. Easier said then done, but trust it will get better. Shoot my a line in PM if you're feeling low and need an ear. No judgement, no BS. Just an ear. Cheers all you fine peoples. See you in "Week 6" (Days 42-49)
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Week 6. Vegetation
4 years ago
45.72 cm
18 hrs
26 °C
6.7
No Smell
550 PPM
65 %
23 °C
21 °C
23 °C
19 L
1 L
71.12 cm
Nutrients 4
Holland Secret - Micro - Future Harvest
Holland Secret - Micro 1.189 mll
Holland Secret - Grow - Future Harvest
Holland Secret - Grow 1.189 mll
Holland Secret - Bloom - Future Harvest
Holland Secret - Bloom 1.004 mll
**Full Disclosure, this entry is more for me and is meant to be cathartic. I have no where else to express this or tell this story, so I'd like to do it here. In no way, shape or form do you have to upvote or read this entry. I thank you for your time if you do read through this slog and if you have similar stories, I would really like to hear them... Really would. I feel like I'm crazy pills and need to know I'm not the only one dealing with/seeing these people....right? Anywho...** This will be the final entry for all four girls (Glookies, VK, GZ and Aya P) on their 49th day, w/ one or two final photos I managed to take. There has been a falling out and I have been ostensibly used and abused (hustled as @Med_in_tropic would say). This entry will be copy/pasted between journals as I'd only like to do this once...I don't want to think about it anymore😓. This will be less about the plants and more of a warning for other growers attempting to do what I have been doing. I'd like to go over some pieces of the story that lead me here and share "Red Flags" with the community that we should all be looking out for, before jumping into a project with someone else... We will be calling this person "Person 1" throughout this entry, along with "Person 2" the spouse of Person 1. The Deets: Initial Project Plan, Agreements and Task Delegation (Spoken word contract with other individual): -The unit and equipment used were discussed and Takeoff's were done my by myself to build his unit with all devices, cords, equipment and misc. good's he would need to start a proper grow. No research on the part of "Person 1" was performed. Down to the nutrients and mediums chosen, "person 1" did not participate other then making the payment for the goods. -I agreed to start all four specimens at my location as he "did not have the time for early propagation". This is a common theme... I provided top tier Barney's genetics, 2 gallon fabrics and soil mediums, propagating these until 'Week 4' at which time I planned to transfer these kids to their new home. "Person 1" was not involved in any way shape or form. When asked to come observe his new kids, he refused as "he was busy..." All correspondence was done via text message even though he literally lives 2.5 minutes from me. (Red Flag #1) -"Person #1" Had agreed to take my reading material and project notes for review so he would have a basic understanding of the process. He received grow bibles by both Jorge Cervantis and Greg Green (120 dollars in text). He put it on his cupboard. Four weeks later, it was still on his cupboard, un-cracked. The post it notes I have in those books alone are gold...and direct myself and anyone reading to pertinent information, definitions and proper propagation procedures. (Red Flag #2). -"Person #1" became upset at me when questioned as to why he had not read anything I had given him. I expressed concern that without a base knowledge coming into his first grow, things would not go well. I explained that we have individual responsibilities to self learn and refine our own methods. His response "I do not like to read. I would prefer if you sent short article's, charts, pictures etc... This is how I learn". Okay, revamp. Started to link articles and charts pertaining to basic propagation, deficiencies to look for, lighting levels, VPD charts etc... Several days later I quizzed him on the information shared. "I didn't read it, I was busy" and "I think I prefer being shown and told what to do". Okay, another revamp with one on one instruction. Person #1 took very few opportunities to learn with me, one on one. Multiple opportunities for feeding lessons, pH balancing, training lessons, testing lessons etc... were mostly ignored. There was an excuse for everything. -This led me to a very frustrating break down (mentally). We were having major plant issues but person #1 was of no help and was compounding the problems by over/under watering at every interval, even with direct instructions not to do so (feeding gallon of water, not properly balanced at two hours before lights out when asked for at least 8 hours of transpiration before lights off). -Plants were in a bad way, I was being ignored and I had to walk away to assess where I stand. After one week I decided I couldn't' abandon the girls. They were mine, not his, and every last procedure and action was taken by me....in his tent...in his house...where he lives. I came back with new boundaries and was very civil in expressing my concerns about the project, his accountability, lack of ambition and continuous plant damage. I pleaded with him that I NEED him and can't do this alone, that I can't spend 2-3 hours every second day fixing his mistakes and/or propagating the plants. I needed him to take the reigns on key responsibilities that were must's, not "if you have the time". -Agreement came and I went back to work. Person 1 showed a change in attitude for a whole 4 days, before reverting back to all the above** I was left alone to bring them back...and I did. 2 weeks, three procedures and 16 hours later, the girls picked up, deficiencies were tackled, pH was swung back into place and plant growth became exponential. -Person 1 fought me daily on his agreed upon tasks and continually/seemingly tried to twist my arm into doing everything he needed to be doing. Invited me over for a "smoke session" just to redirect me to the plants, asking me to feed/train/etc... for him. Made "jokes" about just giving me a sleeping bag so I could take care of them myself... This is where things degraded quickly. His comments woke me up. -I came to the very late revelation that Person 1 had no intention of growing Cannabis, he was interested in free weed without the work. Person 1 decided that buying the equipment needed was as far as he would go and was responsible for. Anything after the fact was on me, but this wasn't the agreement... I was completely on my own, in their chaotic/mentally unwell home/family, stuck in the basement trying my best to focus on the plants and not what was happening around me. **Straw That Broke the Camel's Back** October 20th was the end and I had lost all faith/hope for a positive outcome to this project and this friendship. I had estimated the dry time of two girls for Monday and instructed him multiple times via text, phone and in person, that the soil retention needed to be checked and if the moisture probe came back 1-2, we needed to feed right away (This was over 4 days and I drilled it into his head that there was no "if" but when they're dry, we need to move. I explained that we just went through hell and back, explained the aforementioned effort and time I put into these plants to get them back to where they are now and finally, that we could not afford more mistakes as the stress these girls had been put under was getting to a dangerous level. They needed care and attention from him, for once. HE AGREED! Monday morning I ask if he checked, "No, busy, will do later". Asked in afternoon, "Nope, busy will definitely do later👍. Will send pictures and updates". Nothing came in that night. A final text was sent at 7 PM when I know he's in his garage toking up, but he ghosted me. -Tuesday he contacts me and asks if I wanna hang out (He previously said he was unavailable Tuesday and he would talk to me Wednesday with an update on the girls). I go over to his house and within 3 minutes he starts directing me to the basement... ya, I saw where this was going and my anxiety spiked. Long story short, he did not check those plants over a span of the agreed upon 40hrs he had to do so. Nor had he even looked at them or been in the grow room for 48 hours (he was off work too btw...). He opens the tent and my heart sunk. Aya Purple and Gorilla were in complete shambles, wilting and actively suffering. All I could muster was "why man, just...why would you allow this?". Person 1 "I was busy/I didn't know/I don't know how"... I snapped inside but tried very hard not to show it. He wanted me to stay and feed the plants the nutrient schedule he had promised to apply 24-36 hours prior. I said no, it's too late in the day now and dropping 3 gallons of water on them, especially in this state was not a good idea. Asked him to prime the plants with 500-750ml of balanced tap to carry them into the next day where I!!!! would have to apply the new schedule (he conveniently worked the next day and couldn't do it... was busy...😭) -I let myself out very quickly and explained I was tired and had my own crap too do. I let myself calm down and then wrote a extremely civil email sharing my feelings about how things were going. I explained my mental health was not good, that our relationship was being strained, promises were not being kept and that I felt like I was being used. I pleaded once again for his help and that I couldn't do this on my own, especially with all the new projects I'm trying to get on the go for myself (which he knows is very, very important too me). I asked for accountability and for a more active roll in the process. If you think I was asking a lot, I wasn't. I asked for him to look at the plants every day, test how dry they were and report any issues. Would take all but 3-5 minutes of his time. He did not reply. -We spoke later on in the evening, but not in regards to the plants or my message, but rather, he wanted something. My dumbass decided to help them with a product return and I!!!! did an email correspondence to rectify the product issue😂😂 (Wtf is wrong with me man. That's not sarcasm. I'm a friggin push over). Anywho, I let him know I had resolved HIS issue and he was getting a new 80 dollar unit sent to his home, through me and my efforts over 4 days, hahaha. No nothing, just said "well, who's paying the shipping (5 dollars)". Do you want the free replacement I worked to get, worth 80 bucks? This actually hurt man. All that work for him to disregard the effort and bitch about 5 dollars (which he didn't have to pay for, btw...). -Next day I was tasked with feeding the girls now, as the previous day was a wash and where I asked him to Prime the soil. His spouse (Person #2) has not been mentioned throughout this yet, but trust me when I say, she is an equal road block to this project and was key in exacerbating my poor mental health and negative self esteem. Her life is chaos, simple as that. Constant case of the "Poor me's" and the world done me wrong. All negative and I would be cornered by her with relentless anger about whatever the hell she was on about that day. She was on work leave and was home alllllllllll the tiiiiiiiiiiiiime. There was no escape from her and holy shit was it anxiety inducing just walking into that house. -Whenever Person #1 deemed his feelings hurt, he wouldn't talk to me, he talked to "Person #2" who validated him and convinced him he had done no wrong and I was a super meanie. Any and all issues I brought of with Person #1 were fielded by Person #2 because he could not justify his actions and needed his SO to fight these battles (this and every other battle he faces). -Anywho, walk into the home and it was instant confrontation. Her back against the wall, tone and attitude geared up and looking for a fight. I didn't even make it to the stairs before she was yelling at me about how selfish I was, how pathetic I was, how I was the fucked up one, and on and on. You can take a wild guess about the very nice things she said to me. I tried to counter, but she likes the "whoever speaks louder is correct" tactic, so I picked up my gear and started walking out. She then screamed at me and asked where I was going, lol! She fully expected me to go to work on the plants after being verbally abused for 5 minutes😅😅. WTF! LOL! On leaving she said a few funny things to which I quipped back before shutting that door for good. "We don't know what we're doing!", "This was supposed to be FUN!" and "But we bought the equipment!". I said you're right, you don't know anything. I have spoon fed you everything you need to be successful but you rejected it. 8 weeks of extensive talks, practicum and teaching and you still don't know what you're doing? That's not on me. And is this fun for you? It must be fun watching plants grow without putting in any of the effort. How is this fun for me, going out of my way to grow your plants, in your home where I would get a 1/4 of harvest. Wooooooow, what a sweet frigging deal. You guys are so generous. Finally, yes, you bought the equipment and it's clear that's as far as you were willing to go. Anything after the fact, like the actual propagation of these plants was uninteresting to you and I see now you had expected me to do this in full, even with our prior agreements. Getting far too long and I'm gonna wrap er' up. I'm out, I have not been back and I gave up some material and equipment cause I just don't even want to see their greedy, selfish and condescending faces anymore. The plants are gone. They ostensibly stole 4 stellar plants at 7.5 weeks into Veg and ready to flip and my tents are empty... Before blocking both their numbers and email addresses, he sent one last comment that I feel bothered me the most. "We don't need you, we can figure this out ourselves". This means he was always capable, but chose to be lazy, unaccountable and useless. My final response via text was "I should hope so. I've brought them back to heath and they're on cruise control. You fuck it up, you'd have to be an idiot. And make no mistake, if you bring these to end game, they are and were never your plants. Enjoy the fruits of my labor". Done deal, blocked and no further correspondence. Conclusion: I'm very upset with myself but I'm coming to accept what has transpired and am getting back to where I! need to be. Proxy project #2 has been cancelled as well. My second friend will be receiving the specimens, but I will be freeing myself of any involvement after that. He's now on his own, just like most of us are. He will have to learn to swim or drown again. I'm saddened that I genuinely tried to pay it forward here. I wanted to spread the word locally and bring people into the fold. I had no one at the beginning and people like ROM, Larimar, Grey Wolf, Med and many others stepped up and helped me out. I wanted to take what you gave me and spread the love. My intentions were good, but the way this has played out has left me quite jaded. I will need time to trust other people looking to start growing now. I must be clear here, this is on me. I let myself be a push over, I set boundaries but did not enforce them, I did not protect my peace and mental health, leading to a dark place. I have done this before and I see myself as my own worst enemy atm. Red Flags matter. If you see them, be prepared to walk away immediately. Please don't hang on and continuously make concessions like I did. Your knowledge is valuable, and they need you, not the other way around. I'm still sitting here trying to figure out why I didn't walk away soon and permanently... Written and/or voiced contracts mean nothing. Test their willingness to grow with books and information. If they show an interest and start to catch on to the process, you may have a good growing partner. If you have what I had, with books sitting on the counter for weeks and information in texts ignored w/ no attempt to do any proactive learning, WALK AWAY! Thanks for listening to this... Ummm, I'm not going to talk about this again after these entries. I just lost 4 plants that I had a personal connection with and I need time to accept this loss. IF you want to talk in PM or the thread below however, and share your stories and or tactics to combat these peoples, please don't hesitate to do so🙏 . I feel we need to share with one another and protect each other from being hurt like this. We can pay it forward, but please beware... Turns out people are dicks(?)😂
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TheOldHippie
TheOldHippiecommentedweek 64 years ago
My mentor found me more than 20 years ago. I was the eager dipshit who wanted to grow the world. He asked me last week how many people I had taken under my wing over the years. 1. One. Just 1. My wife. Sure I've given advice, shared seeds, cuts, etc. But I've never taken anyone through a grow A to Z. And heres why. I learned it takes a special person who REALLY loves to grow. The commitment is huge. The responsibilities are many. The outcome is a long shot. Everyone who smokes definitely would welcome the output. But that love of the flower does NOT carry over to the grow. Real growers who are tuned into their plants are rare. Even here if you can find 1000 people globally who are fully committed and legit, well I'd be amazed. The real ones like you? As rare as they come. I asked my mentor why he chose me so many years ago. He laughed and said because if you asked my partner about tomatoes and peppers again, well he was ready to kill you lol. He said he was waiting for someone who didnt want to grow. He was looking for someone who HAD to grow. Besides my wife, I have never met anyone in real life with a real passion, a need, for the grow. That is something one must have within themselves. It's not a seed that can be planted. Sorry you went through that. We'll all be your grow buds :)
JinksyGrows
JinksyGrowscommented4 years ago
@TheOldHippie, I like your style man. I'll keep what I know close until or if I do find someone that is wholly willing to grow (needs too). Too many Cooks in the kitchen is what I like to say, just like the CEO analogy. haha. Doesn't work. Oh, and school projects. Only one person does it all😅
TheOldHippie
TheOldHippiecommented4 years ago
@JinksyGrows, it's my pleasure man. I know how difficult it can be to grow in solitude, know you're doing something off the chain and... no one to share it with. There's a reason each company has only 1 CEO. Because of everyone was an alpha, no one would be left to do the work. Well in our world if everyone was a grower, then there wouldn't be enough people to smoke it all. :))) My best advice is to keep your craft close to you. Don't even let anyone know you grow. Occassionally drop a frosty nug into a close friends hand while muttering the story about your friend who found this wicked shit and dropped a couple on you just because. Your friends will be waiting for your ghost buddy to pass through again lol.
JinksyGrows
JinksyGrowscommented4 years ago
@TheOldHippie, Holy smokes, well said... "Everyone who smokes definitely would welcome the output. But that love of the flower does NOT carry over to the grow". You see, I associate the two personally, but I wrongfully believe everyone else is like this too. I do see the blunt reality of this now...like, I will not allow this to happen again and am refocused on my endeavors and future projects. "He said he was waiting for someone who didn't want to grow. He was looking for someone who HAD to grow." Maybe this is the difference. I have the need and want to grow. It's built into my daily life now and no plant time in a day is unnatural and uncomfortable. It is beyond the flower and I do have this need to grow, progress and refine. I love to play in dirt, turns out, so it goes beyond the flower for sure. Just the time with them is worth every moment and every lesson learned (vegetables now too, lol!). I will keep my eyes wide open for people that have this Need over a simple want. Cause ya...they all want it, but have no drive to accomplish it. I think the largest red flag I didn't mention in the entry was this: Two weeks into the project they were already asking how long this was going to take, how much weed would we be getting, how much would it be worth, etc... I explained that they're living at the finish line and harvest when we haven't even tackled the adolescent propagation stages. They wanted the end game yield, but no part in the process. This is where I should have walked away...before it even started. Live and learn. Anywho, thank you so much for sharing man. I needed to hear these stories and find some validation for how I feel with this whole debacle. I'm on the mend and am moving on👌. I have some bigger plans here and an expansion, so I'm gong to focus on and do me again. Cheers to you my friend, and thank you again for taking the time and sharing your story and advice... I NEED to hear it. Cheers home slice and happy trails this week✊
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Mrs_Larimar
Mrs_Larimarcommentedweek 54 years ago
you know that my ears are always opne... just hit me per Pm ,,,
JinksyGrows
JinksyGrowscommented4 years ago
@Mrs_Larimar, Thank you Mrs_Larimar🙏. I tend to not take my own advice and need to reach out more when I'm in a bad way. Everything just get's' pretty dark and muddy and I forget all the good things and good people I have around me😟. Very happy I'm out of that right now but will try my best to reach out next time. Thank you again, my friend. I appreciates you✊
Buddha2
Buddha2commentedweek 64 years ago
Really sad to read this comment especially when you see the potential of those fantastic plants!
JinksyGrows
JinksyGrowscommented4 years ago
@GodzillaGrow69, Indeed😔. We will bounce back but I doubt those people's will. All good👌🙏
GodzillaGrow69
GodzillaGrow69commented4 years ago
What a shame.
Buddha2
Buddha2commented4 years ago
@JinksyGrows, they "were" beautiful? At least on those latest pictures, they are still looking next to perfect. Many growers would be happy to have such healthy and happy looking ladies. But hey, life goes on!
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Mrs_Larimar
Mrs_Larimarcommentedweek 24 years ago
Nice you "spoiling" your new project,,, very courious to this.... happy growing , and following
JinksyGrows
JinksyGrowscommented4 years ago
@Mrs_Larimar, Absolutely will.👍
Mrs_Larimar
Mrs_Larimarcommented4 years ago
@JinksyGrows, pls tag me
JinksyGrows
JinksyGrowscommented4 years ago
@Mrs_Larimar, It's going to be a fun adventure... Him and I are super excited and everything is set up. Just waiting till Sunday before they move to the big show. He's going be a good grow buddy. Very receptive and intelligent.
Jef79
Jef79commentedweek 15 years ago
Best wishes for ur babies mate.. 😁👍🍀
Jef79
Jef79commented5 years ago
@JinksyGrows,-will b watching n keeping fingers crossed for u mate.. Im sure u'll make her up beautiful as always! .. 😁👍🍀
JinksyGrows
JinksyGrowscommented5 years ago
@Jef79, Thank ya Jef. Hoping these babies are beasts in a couple weeks😃
SommerVirelli
SommerVirellicommentedweek 64 years ago
I’ve also had this similar situation. Except I refused to do all the work for them and they let their plants die and blamed me for it. I don’t have time for nonsense and won’t be a tool. Instead of taking the time to learn some very basic things about growing, they decide to not grow at all. Oh well. To each their own. No use getting frustrated over it. I’m sorry it’s been so aggravating for you, but I understand.
JinksyGrows
JinksyGrowscommented4 years ago
@SommerVirelli, JFC, I'm glad I reached out cause all these stories coming in validate that I'm NOT CRAZY! Your scenario sounds exactly like mine, but the plants aren't dead...yet. Don't worry, he's doing a fine job of expediting their death😣. And it appears that is what's happening right now. He would rather let them die then learn ANYTHING, flip them and get fruit. I don't understand how you can drop 2000+ dollars, get spoon fed info and given all the free crap you need for success, just to slap it away and stay ignorant? It's insane to me and I'm glad I'm out. Cheers and thank you for the support man🙏. My aggravation is dwindling now and I'm feeling a lot better about things. Just needed some time to process. Writing this was cathartic and I'm glad I did it. Ready to move on👌
Med_in_Tropic
Med_in_Tropiccommentedweek 64 years ago
Managing people just make grow exponentially harder.
JinksyGrows
JinksyGrowscommented4 years ago
@Med_in_Tropic, Right? I felt they would manage themselves for the most part....buuuut that didn't happen. On to better things now👍👍. They're in the dust.
Grey_Wolf
Grey_Wolfcommentedweek 64 years ago
Hi Mate sounds to me that you did the right thing in walking away from that situation. I have met many people like the couple you mention. They will never learn respect or value real friendships and can only see the things they can get out of any relationship. I had a cousin propose a similiar collaboration where he knew a guy who wanted to buy a heap of smoke so he says to me "you grow a big crop and I'll sell it to me mate and give ya half" and I'm thinking to myself oh great so you want me to risk everything do all the work and I'll get half........ HaHaHa yeh right I says besides I don't sell anything I grow as it's just not worth the risk and defeats the purpose of why I'm growing which is to keep myself supplied so that I don't have to buy it. Back to your situation Keep your guard up regarding these people as bad pennies have a tendancy to turn up again. Good luck for ya next grows mate 👍
JinksyGrows
JinksyGrowscommented4 years ago
@Grey_Wolf, You know man, that's the worst part. I saw them as friends but they didn't see me that way. I was just the grower and a free ride. That hurts... And what's with these people thinking they're doing us a solid by "letting us" grow their weed for them, and hey, we'll give you a cut. Gee thanks! There's a serious disconnect there and I almost feel like they thought they were doing ME a favor by "letting" me grow in their house😅. I have 3 tents and two are fully commissioned, why would I need your plants? Anywho, rough go, but my guard is up and I'm focused on meself for a bit. A tad selfish, yes, but I do have some goals I need to achieve. These individuals stand in the way of that, so I'm walking away from all of them for now. Lastly, ya, they were talking about selling/expanding to sell, but implied it would be all me and I would 50%. Same as you, however, I DONT SELL! So, the risk of doing this for them is dumb as hell. Why would you or I risk our livelihoods so you can get free dope and make a couple bucks...(?) Such ass backwards thinking. I'm going to bring my truck into the shop and give them "the opportunity to fix it" without payment and they will thank me for it. That's how this works right? LOL!😂😂 Anyways man, cheers to you. Always a solid contact and grow buddy. My focus in on peoples like yourselves. I am surrounded by great company and it's time to take a step back and understand how lucky I am to have this support. Gotta stop trying to look for it, when I literally already have it.... Thank you Wolf🙏. You're the tits man✊
Buddha2
Buddha2commentedweek 15 years ago
Best wishes for your new grow!
JinksyGrows
JinksyGrowscommented5 years ago
@Buddha2, Thank you!☺️
OimRausch
OimRauschcommentedweek 15 years ago
Here you go my friend... 👍 I'll follow along! Good luck and happy trails for the rest of the way 🤞 Servus Oim.
JinksyGrows
JinksyGrowscommented5 years ago
@@OimRausch, Cheers dude🙏. Hope grow#4 is a winner👍
Automaniac
Automaniaccommentedweek 15 years ago
Good luck with your grow!
JinksyGrows
JinksyGrowscommented5 years ago
@Automaniac, Thanks man!😀 I'll do my bestest 👍
JinksyGrows
JinksyGrowscommented5 years ago
@Automaniac, Thank ya kindly home slice👍. Hoping this will be a fun run! Your first go is looking frigging good brother! Keep it up🙏😅
JP148
JP148commentedweek 44 years ago
Looking great. Good luck with the new setup
JinksyGrows
JinksyGrowscommented4 years ago
@@JP148, Thanks man. Just one more build and we're good to go😀
Med_in_Tropic
Med_in_Tropiccommentedweek 34 years ago
Busy s good. And I also found out that you can’t let up when going out sing weed. A bit of slip invite trouble. And I dream about automated small scale trimming.
JinksyGrows
JinksyGrowscommented4 years ago
@Med_in_Tropic, Agreed man. Busy is good and I'm doing what I love to do pretty much all day now. Spreading plants all around and trying to get as many people into the grow game as possible. Can't let up👊. And ya man...I need a faster way of trimming. I was considering something automated, but I just can't justify a piece of machinery for 8-12 plants😅. If things keep getting bigger and busier, I'll try and find something. Trim bags for now!
WeirdoT
WeirdoTcommentedweek 34 years ago
She's looking good!🍃
JinksyGrows
JinksyGrowscommented4 years ago
@WeirdoT, Thank you kindly 🙏. She's a happy lady😃
Zone6ix
Zone6ixcommentedweek 24 years ago
So beautiful! Good luck 👽
JinksyGrows
JinksyGrowscommented4 years ago
@Zone6ix, Thank you kindly my friend🙂. I accept you luck and will use it for the entire grow😉
grzesiekkuzniak
grzesiekkuzniakcommentedweek 24 years ago
i like how clean ur tent is
JinksyGrows
JinksyGrowscommented4 years ago
@grzesiekkuzniak, Always😉. Gotta make the girls comfortable and all that, haha.
Ferenc
Ferenccommentedweek 15 years ago
Happy Growing @JinksyGrows
JinksyGrows
JinksyGrowscommented5 years ago
@Ferenc, Thanks my dude🙏. Always paranoid in the first two weeks, but a little calmer about ugly seedlings this round, haha.
L_Tetragrammaton
L_Tetragrammatoncommentedweek 34 years ago
I like the phone control of the bluebird setup. Looking great! Happy Growing
Med_in_Tropic
Med_in_Tropiccommentedweek 54 years ago
Patience my friend.
XoticGROW666
XoticGROW666commentedweek 34 years ago
🎉🎉
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