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[ --- I guess GrowDiaries has a germination week now! Splitting my week 1 log entries to accommodate for this new feature --- ] Since germination happened midway through the first week, this first week is from the point of germination until the end of the week (so 4 days for this split week). Introduction - Week 01 Summary - There are a few important overall changes I made to this grow: - The water chiller and top drip ring have been removed. - Went from an 8" to a 6" net basket. - Greatly lowered the overall light intensity (25% strength instead of 100%) - I reduced overall PPMs (306 instead of 850) - I simplified the nutrient mixture (CalMag + beneficial bacteria only - No grow nutrients) - I changed the way I structure my feeding schedules (going by growth instead of time spent growing) So far, these changes seem to have worked beautifully because she's looking healthy and strong! Overall, this week went quite smoothly! Had a slight hiccup when I dropped the temperature meter into the bucket solution as well as a bit of low humidity problem towards the end of the week. But no slime all week! Also had more root growth in this one week than any of my other attempts (no visible deficiencies that I'm aware of at least) so I'm happy! By the end of the week, temps and overall humidity were dialed in too. Great! For this week, I decided to hold off on changing the bucket solution and will keep the current brew for another week. I'll most likely change the reservoir when there's a more developed root system. Or whenever I decide to add grow nutrients into the mixture. Until then, I'm going to continue to only feed her straight CalMag. [START OF WEEK 01] Day 01 - Thursday - 10/08/20 - Total Days: 06 ----------------------------------- - [0915]: Good morning little one! --- She's a bit warped because of the shell, but she is looking really green! Also her first set of leaves have already started to form! --- Temps under the dome were at ~75°F with a humidity of around 64% which is great! --- There was still quite a bit of water in the tray, but the water did lower as expected. --- Checked the tray solution. --- PPMs were at 197 --- PH was at 5.9 --- Great! So the PPMs were just under 200 in the tray which was a bit lower than I expected, but very good! The bucket will be around 300 PPMs to start so this tray feeding will hopefully help to acclimate her to the higher PPMs. - [1000]: Temporarily removed the cube from the tray to adjust the solution. I just set the cube on its side for a bit. The tap root was longer than yesterday, but still short enough to not reach the table when laying on it. --- Added straight distilled water to dilute the solution. --- PPMs dropped to 107 --- PH'd down the solution to 5.6 --- PPMs went up a bit to 118 --- I poured out a bit of the solution so the water level was just enough to fill the lower channels. --- I then carefully place the cube back and partially covered the tray to allow for more evaporation. --- Since I plan on transplanting tonight, going to leave the lights on for another 24/0 cycle. I will switch to 18/6 tonight. - [2100]: Aye looking good girl! --- Checked the final tray solution. --- PPMs were at 173 --- PH was at 6.4 - [2115]: Boiled both the hydroton and air stones in distilled water. --- Took the tray and dome out of the tent. - [2130]: By now the water has been boiling for a bit. So drained and placed the hydroton in distilled water PH'd down to 5.4 --- Also connected the clean air stones to their respective airlines within the bucket. - [2145]: Mixed her first batch of nutes! --- Going very basic for this first week. --- No grow nutes. --- Of course I'll be adding beneficial bacteria in the form of Hydroguard and Voodoo Juice. But not adding any enzymes for now. I really hope this will be enough to keep the slime under control. --- Since I don't want to use my tap water to feed her. I'm going to feed distilled water with straight CalMag. That's it. No grow nutrients until she develops some roots. --- Filled the bucket with 3 gallons of distilled water (PH 7.1 - 11 PPMs) - Turned air pump on. --- Added 15mL of Voodoo Juice --- Added 7mL of Hydroguard (PH 7.1 - 13 PPMs) --- Added 10mL of CaliMagic (PH 6.3 - 303 PPMs) --- PH'd to 5.4 (diluted with distilled water a bit before adding to bucket) --- PPMs went up a bit to 306 - [2200]: Okay! TRANSPLANT TIME! --- Placed the new 6" net pot into the bucket. The water is a good 2" below the bottom of the net pot. --- Added enough hydroton to fill the bottom of the net pot. --- I removed the rockwool cube from the humidity dome and removed the plastic wrapper. --- I carefully placed her in the center of the hydroton. --- Then I very carefully added more hydroton to fill around the cube along with just enough to cover the top of the cube. --- Nice! I only needed about half of what the larger net pot used. --- Finally I top fed about 10mL of the solution to wet the rockwool cube. --- Transplant done! --- Now that she's in the DWC bucket and closer to the light, the distance between the light and the top of her leaves is 30". Hopefully this is not too close. --- Temps were around 77°F with the humidity at 54% --- Adjusted the AC/exhaust fan temps a bit and lowered them to 75°F --- Also switched the light to from 24/0 to 18/6. --- So from 10am to 4pm, it's lights out. - [2230]: I checked basket for light leaks and ran into issues.. --- I kept finding light leaks through the net pot. I took way too much time rearranging the hydroton. But light leaks along the edges were really obvious.. --- To check for leaks, I basically lifted the basket out of the bucket and held it above the reflective floor of the tent. Then, while looking straight down above the net pot, I checked to see if I could see any part of the floor shining though the basket.. --- I kept seeing bits of light. Damnit! --- I really didn't want to risk damaging a leaf again so I did not want to fill the basket all the way yet with hydroton. --- Once she gets larger, I can easily fill the basket with more hydroton to seal the leaks, but until then I needed a temporary solution. --- I started to think of a ways to seal the leaks. Maybe a lid of some sort? --- After a bit of thinking, I found a quick fix in the form of a sheet of aluminum foil! --- I took a sheet of foil and pressed it over the top of the lid of the net pot. This made a clean circle outline. Then using a pair of scissors, I carefully cut a slit to the middle of that circle. Then I cut out a small diamond shape in the center. That's it! I'll draw a simple diagram for later referencing. --- I was able to easily shape this foil to fit into the net basket to cover the top of the hydroton. I sealed the slit I cut earlier with aluminum tape. Then used a bit more tape to secure the foil to the top of the lid. Done! Light leak issue solved! --- Side note: --- Apparently an air gap between the nutrient solution and the bottom of the net pot is very important when growing in DWC. This space gives room for proper drainage and aeration of the rockwool cube along with keeping the top roots from drowning in nutrient solution. The bubbles in the bucket not only oxygenate the water, but as they pop along the surface of the water, they create a mist that sprays and slowly wets the bottom of the net pot. This constant misting gets wicked by the hydroton and eventually reaches the roots. --- Basically learned that you should never need to soak the hydroton directly in the nutrient solution. Day 02 - Friday - 10/09/20 - Total Days: 07 ----------------------------------- - [0830]: Good morning! --- Checked the bucket solution. --- PH was at 5.8 --- PPMs were at 296 --- Tent temps were at 77°F --- Humidity was at 47% --- Aye no slime! The foil cover along with the beneficial bacteria in the res seemed to have kept the slime away! --- Also, even though it's only been a day in the bucket, she is looking really healthy! Each OG Kush seedling I attempted to grow (RIP) had a bit of yellowing around the edges and their leaves were more of a yellowish green. But this Fire OG is looking great so far! The green in her leaves is a lot darker and there is no yellowing at all! --- The new adjustments in both the lighting and feeding seemed have fixed a lot of those issues I encountered during my last run. It could also be the strain too, but I am happy with the results so far! --- The green in her leaves is nice and even. --- Now hopefully I can keep it this way! - [2000]: Nice! still looking healthy! --- Checked the bucket solution. --- PH was at 5.9 --- PPMs were at 296 --- Tent temps were at 77°F --- Humidity was at 54% --- Still no slime! --- Top feed about 10mL of the solution. I did this in another bucket so runoff would not affect the bucket solution. Day 03 - Saturday - 10/10/20 - Total Days: 08 ----------------------------------- - [0700]: Looking great! --- Checked the bucket solution. --- Nice! Tap root is already shooting out of the net pot! --- Opps. Dropped the temperature/humidity meter into the bucket.. I hope this doesn't contaminate the solution. Damn it Ensign. --- PH was at 6.2 --- PPMs were at 303 --- Still no slime, but I'm not sure if dropping the meter into the water, or my own arm reaching all the way down into the water to take it out, could have affected the solution.. For my own sake, I'm definitely going to do a reservoir change tomorrow. This way I can be sure that everything will be clean. --- I decide to add more beneficial bacteria to the solution. --- First I removed about 2 cups of the solution. --- Then I filled a measuring cup with 1 cup of straight distilled water. --- Added 1mL of Voodoo Juice --- Added 1mL of Hydroguard --- Then added a squirt of PH down --- Poured the entire solution into the bucket. --- PH dropped to 4.8 --- Added some diluted PH up to bring it up to 5.3 --- PPMs were at 296 --- If the water isn't slimy by tonight, I'll top feed. - [0730]: On the positive side, even though completely submerged for a few seconds, the temperature meter seems completely undamaged! Initially the screen was dead, so I removed the battery and tried to dry the unit under a fan. After about 15 minutes, I popped the battery back in and everything seems to be working just fine. Great! - [1845]: Aye looking bigger! --- Okay I think I am doing something right this time! Since this morning, her root literally doubled in size! --- What a relief! I guess dropping the temperature meter into the nutrient solution had no negative effects. I'm still going to be careful from now on. Lesson learned. --- Checked the bucket solution. --- PH was at 5.5 --- PPMs were at 292 --- Everything looks clean and no sign of slime! --- Top fed outside the bucket (about 10mL) and placed her back. Day 04 - Sunday - 10/11/20 - Total Days: 09 ----------------------------------- - [0745]: Growing nicely! --- Checked the bucket solution and still no slime! --- PH was at 5.7 --- PPMs were at 286 --- Nice! I think a steady slow increase in PH along with a decrease in PPMs means that she is uptaking nutrients. --- Wow! Her root is looking longer too! Without a doubt, she's growing the fastest of all my attempts. --- With the reduced nutrient mixture (basically straight CalMag), this seedling's root is longer than any of my previous grows. This proves that yet again, less is more. --- Debating on whether to do a reservoir change tonight or not. --- It would be of the same strength and everything still looks really good with this current batch. I may try and go another week before changing out the nutrient water and a just add CalMag as needed. --- Temps look good a ~77°F --- But the humidity has been really low at 19% --- According to a VPD chart for veg, the optimal humidity should be closer to 60% at 77°F --- I sprayed a bit of distilled water on the top of the lid and table to hopefully bring up the humidity. To keep her dry as I did this, I temporarily covered her with a cup. - [0800]: The water seems to be drying pretty quick. So using a glass bowl as a humidity dome, I placed it on the lid of the bucket. --- If this works, as she grows bigger, I may need to find a larger dome, but for now this bowl is a perfect fit! Just enough room for the temp meter as well. Left an air gap to allow for air ventilation. --- After placing the bowl over her, the humidity meter immediately started to rise. Nice! --- At least for now, I think using some sort of a dome should fix my humidity issue. --- I also placed the humidity dome's tray on the floor of the tent and fill it with tap water. Maybe the evaporation from the fan blowing across the water will help increase the overall tent humidity? --- I can't afford a humidifier at the moment, so I'm trying to figure out cheap ways to keep humidity under control. If the dome doesn't fix the humidity issue, I might try hanging wet towels or spraying the walls of the tent later. - [0930]: Humidity is ~45% which is almost perfect! I'll check the meter again after the night cycle to see how the humidity changes. - [1915]: Okay! The humidity dome seemed to have fixed the issue! --- Humidity was at 59% --- Temperature was at 73°F --- Checked the bucket solution. --- PH was at 5.8 --- PPMs were at 292 --- Solution temperature was 74°F --- Hmm.. PPMs went up a bit. Could be that she's drinking more water now. But all levels are within acceptable limits. --- Not going to worry. Water still looks clean and no slime. --- Top fed another 10mL outside the bucket. --- Still only have one visible root, but it's continuing to get longer! Stay healthy girl! [END OF WEEK 01]
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GACiNATI
GACiNATIcommentedweek 104 years ago
Stabilizing every single element of your , nutrients , temperature , and Most IMPORTANT your light schedules, , veg at 18/6 or 24 do not do 24 then 18/ 6 then 12 It's gonna stress the plant temperature for your water use a heat mat
GACiNATI
GACiNATIcommented4 years ago
@Ensign420, using a heat mat also I didn't put that in
GACiNATI
GACiNATIcommented4 years ago
@Ensign420,for me I haven't used rock wool but they are both ph neutrul so it should be pretty similar on that note , I put my seeds in water until they sink to the bottom on their own , take them from there put into a paper towel , let tap root pop out of shell , plant into peat moss , with a far led light above it , when I see the plant / shell coming out of the peat moss I then put it into 48 hours of darkness in a sealed plastic bag usually I come back and it's dropped its shell atleast by that point
Ensign420
Ensign420commented4 years ago
@GACiNATI, Have any experience with seed germination in rockwool? I don't have peat moss and currently only have rockwool and hydroton as a grow medium. What method do you use to get your seeds to crack open? Do you soak them in water? 48 hours of darkness in what? Paper towels? What are the temps? I've been trying to get rockwool germination dialed in. As of right now, I've been soaking my rockwool cubes in PH'd distilled water for a bit, then I flip the cube upside down, make a shallow hole, drop the dry seed straight in, then pinch the hole close. I use a humidity dome to keep RH high until a cube pops. I'll try to germinate a cube in the dark to see if it helps (maybe wrap it in foil or something). Sorry for all the questions, I'm a complete newbie at this so trying to get this right with the grow mediums that I have.
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DougFresh
DougFreshcommentedweek 24 years ago
I’m growing the exact same in dwc. Real excited to follow this grow. I need to get some more additives
GACiNATI
GACiNATIcommented4 years ago
@DougFresh,hello my friend you took my name
Ensign420
Ensign420commented4 years ago
@DougFresh, Nice! Yea, I'm still learning and you are more than welcome to learn as I do! Just keep in mind that I'm a complete newbie at growing (haven't grown anything in any form prior to this). So take my grows as a very rough guide because I am learning as I go and have yet to make it my first harvest. As for getting more additives for DWC, less is definitely more. I think I spent way too much on nutrients. But if you are not running a sterile bucket, I highly recommenced getting beneficial bacteria to keep the root rot under control (Hydroguard/Voodoo Juice/etc.). Also I'm learning that CalMag is very important. Also keep PPMs low. Don't make the same mistake as I did (you can check out my first grow attempt to learn from my failures). You seem to have more experience than I do. Your soil grown ladies are looking great by the way! Best of luck with your first DWC grow buddy! 🖖
BloodSweatBeers
BloodSweatBeerscommentedweek 04 years ago
This has to be the most detailed log on this entire site... and being a nerd, thats right up my ally. I'll give it a follow, good luck :)
Ensign420
Ensign420commented4 years ago
@BloodSweatBeers, Aye thanks for the good luck! DWC is challenging, especially being a complete newbie. So I'm trying to be as detailed as possible so I (or anyone else who is trying to grow similarly) can look back as a reference (mistakes and all). I failed on my last run, but I'm hoping to make it to harvest with this one! 🖖
DougFresh
DougFreshcommentedweek 34 years ago
Why are you wanting to increase the innernodal spacing? Most people want to keep that short to get more nodes
DougFresh
DougFreshcommented4 years ago
@Ensign420, that makes sense. Guess I never really thought about stretching a plant to tie it down. I’ll be interested to see the results
Ensign420
Ensign420commented4 years ago
@DougFresh, So I plan on ‘low-stress training’ (LST) this girl so I want more height and spacing between nodes before I start bending branches over and tying them down. Right now she’s just too short for any kind of LST. I’ll also be topping her too but not right now.
GACiNATI
GACiNATIcommentedweek 104 years ago
Are you making sure you keep you water level at the clay balls until It's got more roots ? You need to slowly lower your water level from that down when your starting a seed in and on top of that you definitely need the water temp to stay almost perfectly stable , with the roots being in water you can't let water go below 60 degrees Fahrenheit, with soil you can go to 55 degrees no issues but DWC to low of temps or to drastic of temperature swings even say 6 degrees at a time over 24 hours or less will stunt or even kill a seedling
Ensign420
Ensign420commented4 years ago
@GACiNATI, For the next run, I plan on keeping track of my water temps. Thanks for the advice!
BloodSweatBeers
BloodSweatBeerscommentedweek 64 years ago
Have you thought about growing in coco or soilless medium? I think you'd have better luck, and its similar in terms of the micromanagment. Sorry for your loss🥀
Ensign420
Ensign420commented4 years ago
@BloodSweatBeers, Yea, I've considered it. If the next few attempts fail, I may just try coco. But still going to try again with DWC. I've been in contact with Advanced Nutrients' customer support team and after a few emails, I think I'm going to give it another go. If not then I'll probably get a fabric pot and try my luck growing in coco coir.
Ezzjaybruh
Ezzjaybruhcommentedweek 44 years ago
This is detailed as hell man.. huge props on that.. I thought I was thorough with it.. good luck!!
Ensign420
Ensign420commented4 years ago
@Ezzjaybruh, Thanks growmie! DWC is tough...
Ferenc
Ferenccommentedweek 54 years ago
Ensign420
Ensign420commented4 years ago
@Ferenc, I hope so!
BloodSweatBeers
BloodSweatBeerscommentedweek 54 years ago
Its growing *plays epic music
Ensign420
Ensign420commented4 years ago
@BloodSweatBeers, Unfortunately, I lost her to root rot (*plays sad music).. But I'm trying again! Trying to run a sterile res this time to see if I can keep the root rot at bay.
BloodSweatBeers
BloodSweatBeerscommentedweek 54 years ago
Root rots a bitch, glad you caught it. DWC is too damn much for me personally, kudos
Ensign420
Ensign420commented4 years ago
@BloodSweatBeers, Unfortunately the rot won..
BloodSweatBeers
BloodSweatBeerscommentedweek 44 years ago
I'm a broken record, but I love your data. Shes looking great :)
Ensign420
Ensign420commented4 years ago
@BloodSweatBeers, Aye thanks for the positive vibes! I'm learning as I grow so a detailed log definitely helps. 👍 🖖
BloodSweatBeers
BloodSweatBeerscommentedweek 24 years ago
Healthy roots! looking good
Ensign420
Ensign420commented4 years ago
@BloodSweatBeers, Thanks growmie! I just hope I can keep them healthy. 🖖
Ferenc
Ferenccommentedweek 104 years ago
Happy Growing @Ensign420
HydroGroGod
HydroGroGodcommentedweek 63 years ago
Just buy a water chiller please‼️ Check on offer up, facebook market or spend 340 on a 1/10th active aqua chiller
HydroGroGod
HydroGroGodcommentedweek 63 years ago
Switch to current culture nutrient line. U won't regret it
DoDrugs420
DoDrugs420commentedweek 103 years ago
Fire OG is exactly what my momma would've wanted me to have.
heizen
heizencommentedweek 104 years ago
Nice grow mate, plants are looking good, keep it up, imma follow this one upclose.